Shopping For Retail Downtown

Shopping For Retail Downtown

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Earlier Saturday morning I spent some time driving around downtown looking for quality retail spaces. I was trying to help out a young woman who has been searching for the perfect location for a women’s professional clothing boutique. As we drove around I asked her what some of her requirements were and she said, “Chippewa is the cutoff. My ideal spot would be somewhere on Court Street… though Cathedral Park (near DT Globe Market) is appealing too.”

The future shop-owner was wary of being located directly on Main Street. “I heard recently that the adding of cars on the street is now five years down the road,” she told me. “Until I know what is happening with that project I don’t want to risk moving onto Main. I like the idea of being near Main, but it would really have to be the ideal setup.” Five years? Looks like things may have changed a bit… hopefully we’ll have an update on that rumor shortly. I asked her what she envisioned her shop being and she told me, “Actually, I was hoping that BRO viewers would be willing to help scout out some ideal locations for a 1100 sq’ store that specializes in reasonably priced women’s business attire and accessories. I want to sell a suit for $150. Mike Attardo’s store, Get Dressed, is a good example of what can work for men downtown. He has quality merchandise at great prices, and that’s the direction I want to go. I would be willing to dabble in some dress-down Friday casual-wear if there was a demand, and I would like to experiment with some higher end pieces too… just to see if there was an interest.”

The dream of owning a women’s boutique in downtown Buffalo has been a dream of hers for quite some time. “I remember taking the Metro Rail down here when I was younger and shopping at the few remaining department stores,” she reminisced. “It was such an incredible experience. I’ve been working on a business plan for four years now… and I think that the time is right to go for it. I thought that the business plan would be the hard part and that finding a location would be easy. That has not been the case at all though. Many of the property owners are looking for long-term leases. That might not be so bad, but they are also asking me to pay for the build-out. Have you seen the condition of the storefronts down here? You need a lot of imagination. There are mirrored windows, leaking ceilings… it’s no wonder that no one is opening up in some places… you look through a window and cringe. Why can’t the owners fix them up? There’s a lot of potential, but they want the storeowner to burden all of the risk. I think the fact that I want to open downtown says that I believe in the city… I think that there is a demand for what I will offer. I am investing my own money into the product, and I know that the displays are my responsibility… but the drywall, ceilings, and windows, and a long term lease?”

When I first told the young entrepreneur that I would sit down with her to discuss retail in Buffalo I was extremely excited to be meeting with someone that was looking at taking a risk downtown. I too was hoping that if she could find the right spot, her business could act as a catalyst for others to follow. We did pinpoint a few locations that she is going to investigate come Monday, though she is still very open to suggestions from BRO readers.

If you are a female professional working downtown, what sort of things do you think she would be remiss not to carry? If you are familiar with the storefronts, where might she not have looked? Put yourself in her shoes… what can we do to get this new business up and running by August? She is looking to open Monday through Friday to start, with hours from 8am to 6pm.

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What Others Have To Say

  1. TjR

    3 ratings12345
    May 20th 2007, 12:08

    The corner of Court St. and Franklin is perfect for this! The owners are willing to do the renovations as well.. They have already started.

  2. Nan-C

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    May 20th 2007, 12:39

    How about the old Grever's Flower Shop location almost directly across from Mike Attardo's store. It's on the corner of Main and Huron. I can hook you up with the owner...a great guy who loves downtown and wants to see it thrive.

  3. platt4

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    May 20th 2007, 13:23

    Grevers is good, Genny block, Ellicott Commons, Howard Shoes old location, Market Arcade, Tishman Bldg., 598 Main, Electric Tower, anywhere on the 500 block, old McDonalds (not the farm) at Main and Mohawk

  4. Denizen

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    May 20th 2007, 13:58

    "Young woman" interested in opening downtown shop,

    Go straight for the jugular, i.e. Main St, it's got the highest pedestrian counts of any downtown street (not counting Friday/Saturday night boozin' on Chippewa)

    Locate in a place central to all of downtown, preferably as close to Mr. Attardo's shop as possible. Main was originally built up for heavy retail activity...the infrastructure is still in place for the street to blossom again with retail. You will be best able to capitalize on customer visibility when many shops of the same kind cluster on the same block. This creates a "destination". The tens of thousands of daily office workers who walk down Main everyday will notice your store. So will the massive hordes of Thursday at the square goers. Don't fall into the trap of setting up shop on a more obscure, lesser-traveled street.

    Don't worry too much about upcoming construction on the roadway to return car traffic. Since these are downtown storefronts, there is no onsite parking, therefore your customer base will entirely be foot traffic. As long as the sidewalks are relatively undisturbed, foot traffic won't be impeded very much during construction.

  5. chris69

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    May 20th 2007, 14:12

    Didnt I hear that the Liberty Building was going to be converted to apartments and condos after the Statler, Greystone and Dulski?

    If true...perhaps we need more than one Issa Bashar Office Tower in Buffalo. Hey Mr. Basha, it would be incredible if Buffalo has your three more of your towers: on the Eastside of the city (Filmore or Jefferson), the Southside of the city (perhaps on Furhmann, Ohio or South Park) and the northside (perhaps on Main Street or Niagara Street).

    Every area of our city is begging fo office space with magnificent views, underground parking and close to good housing, retail and restaurants.

  6. IMADIVA

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    May 20th 2007, 14:18

    I totally agree Denizen. Main Street is the best choice and the Grevers space is a good one. The owners are good people and the building hasn't fallen into decay. Being located accross the street from Get Dressed is also a smart move. In a recent conversation with Mike Attardo, I learned that the Main Street Store had a greater sales volume than his Elmwood viallage store this past Winter. Yeah! The market is definitely ripe for a "Professional Womens" clothier (why let the men have all the fun at lunch time?). One suggestion for the proprieter: please note that women come in a variety of sizes and ages but have a significant common denominator - we all like to find quality at a bargain price. Good luck!

  7. HelenWheels

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    May 20th 2007, 14:47

    "please note that women come in a variety of sizes and ages but have a significant common denominator - we all like to find quality at a bargain price. Good luck!"

    and for the larger woman - it would be great to find a conservative business suit - pants and skirt - without flowers, short waist jackets, cuffed up sleeves, 3/4 sleeves and all that other crap we are forced to see on the rack. Thanks! Also, along with Attardo's place would be optimal.

  8. RonR

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    May 20th 2007, 15:07

    Main is a horrible choice. Retail has not worked there for years or since the Metro went in. The metro is still there. The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results.

  9. Hudy2005

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    May 20th 2007, 15:17

    There is a nice retail area in the ground floor of the building at the corner of Court and Pearl. However, the windows are higher off the ground, so window displays would not be at the eye level of most pedestrians. It would be a nice fit in the center of the business district with much foot traffic though. It has been vacant for quite some time. This is the intersection where the Liberty Building, parking lot where the new office building is planned to be buiult, and the loading bay entrance to the Convention Center.

  10. Hudy2005

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    May 20th 2007, 18:54

    Also it would be nice to place this business in the Statler Tower, on the ground floor. Of course it would need to be once those floors have been renovated. However, I think that it would save this retailer from paying for the build out of her space.

  11. Hudy2005

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    May 20th 2007, 18:58

    Also, where the Radio Shack store used to be, in the brown building, next to the Liberty Building. Very heavy foot traffic there. That building had looked very nice when built. It would be nice to see the brown exterior removed, and the original stone facade restored.

  12. gaustad

    3 ratings12345
    May 20th 2007, 22:56

    There will never be traffic again on Main St. - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER -

  13. sbrof

    1 ratings12345
    May 21st 2007, 08:23

    retail had not worked in downtown period, not just main street and not just since the metro went in, but because the PEOPLE stopped going there to shop instead they went to the Malls and strip plaza's of the American Dreamland. Let's not blame the metro for deeper issues.

    I think most of the best locations have already been mentioned. I would second Delaware Ave near Niagara Square or Main Street between Mohawk and M&T Plaza. Definitely the highest pedestrian traffic in downtown. If you want proof check out BuffaloPlace's pedestrian survey. It exists but I can't seem to find it anywhere right now.

  14. Biniszkiewicz

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    May 21st 2007, 08:28

    The best place, imho: right next door to Mike Attardo. Paladino has been trying to get Mike to expand his store; he's declined. The size he has (about the same this woman is looking for) works for him. She should go right next door to him, in the other half of the space. The two would be a natural together.

    Most of the spaces she's being asked to look at are too big (1100' is a small store).

    Re: Liberty Building: I've heard no plans for apartments or condos. I know of offices there that are expanding, so I doubt there are any concrete plans afoot to change the nature of the building.

  15. Spaulding97

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    May 21st 2007, 10:57

    Delaware & Chippewa!!!! Nice retail shops are ready to go as it is. Lots of residential and has foot traffic already. It needs a place where people are there already, not in the middle of nowhere like on main. Once everyone goes home from work main is like a ghost town, put it where there is constant life.

  16. jstraubinger

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    May 21st 2007, 10:59

    It's tempting to suggest 665 Main Street where the Buffalo-Niagara Partnership has its offices. As far as I can tell, this 4-to-6 year old building has never had a ground floor tenant. The only reason I suggest this is that you might be able to derive customers in this location since this is where the Partnership is. On the other hand, it might be far cheaper to join the Partnership from some other location and network the female membership. I think there might be space in the ground floor of City Centre. I mention that location because a Dunkin Donuts is going to be next door at 598 Main-another traffic generator opportunity? Rocco's retail incubator at the Ellicott Commons would probably provide a cheap rent but no one knows for sure what the traffic will be like there in the beginning after the novelty wears off or how long it will take to become a regular and popular destination. At any rate, Good Luck and I really admire you for taking your dream and turning it into reality.

  17. DJCramer

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    May 21st 2007, 11:00

    I found this comment interesting, "Many of the property owners are looking for long-term leases. That might not be so bad, but they are also asking me to pay for the build-out. Have you seen the condition of the storefronts down here?"

    I recently had the same experience trying to find some quality office space when I opened a small regional office here a few months ago. Many of the landlords I spoke to wanted a 5-year lease. The condition of these offices was deplorable. Many have been vacant since the industrial revolution. Many of these buildings have a 50% vacancy rate, yet the landlords have the "take it or leave it" mentalitly. This isn't midtown Manhattan where you can have an attitude like that.. it's Buffalo, NY.

    If the city wants a rennaisance, then it's going to need to invest in its assets before office and retail come here. Just look at how successful projects like Larkin at Exchange and the Cathedral Place rennovations have been. I've heard that Cathedral Place is close to 100% occupancy.

    There's an old saying, "If you build it, they will come." However, if you expect others to fund this city's revival, you'll be waiting another lifetime.

  18. priezcykniewski

    2 ratings12345
    May 21st 2007, 11:48

    I dont know how she big she wantas to go but what about lookin uinto the old Aud. a clothes store would do real good there then we could get that place fixed up.

  19. jstraubinger

    0 ratings12345
    May 21st 2007, 12:04

    i have one more suggestion for you. At one time this organization was a women's only organization for the betterment of downtown Buffalo. Now it has male members also. I think you could get some very good advice and also do some further networking with the organization called Working For Downtown at

    http://www.workingfordowntown.org/about.asp

  20. tonyarmani

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    May 22nd 2007, 06:27

    Buffalo should just bite the bullet and put the metro underground like a real subway system. Cars back on Main along with pedrestrian traffic. Stop wasting time and money and just do it.

  21. ak8911

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    May 24th 2007, 11:55

    Well, Mr. Pessimist (Sbrof) the future looks grim through your eyes but not mine. Buffalo has gone through quite a change....slow change, but change. First of all, retailers will not be dying to open stores if there is not a residential base. History tells all ---first comes residential and then commercial will follow. In the past few years Buffalo has introduced hundreds of new or renovated living spaces in the downtown area. A great start! The woman looking to open the store should call Ellicott Devlopment Company and partner up with Mr. Attardo at Get Dressed!

    also, for the gentleman looking for the pedestrian count, call Buffalo Pace -they will send it to you. They really need to update it, it is dated 2000.

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