Retail Ready (again)- The Sidway

Retail Ready (again)- The Sidway

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The commercial space on the ground floor of the Sidway is for lease. Again. Dorothy Stahlnecker and Gunner Tronolone of MJ Peterson Commercial Real Estate are listing the 4,800 sq.ft. of space at 775 Main Street. It was previously occupied by the Blu Mirage and short-lived Tabu nightclub. The building at the corner of Main and Goodell Streets is at the crossroads of Allentown, the Theater District, and Medical Campus.

The historic Sidway was converted from office space to 67 one and two-bedroom apartments in 2004 by Michael Joseph’s Clover Management. White Plains-based Woodlark Opportunity Fund purchased the property in November 2006 for $7.1 million.

With the 700 block streetscape project scheduled for completion next spring, the site’s prospects appear to be good. Two-way traffic will help. At the south of the block, Avalon Development has had success attracting a mix of service and restaurant tenants to its string of redeveloped properties at 723, 731, 737, and 741 Main Street.

Avalon recently purchased 715 Main Street at the corner of Tupper. That building is scheduled to get a new brick façade.

Get Connected: Dorothy Stahlnecker or Gunner Tronolone, 716.689.4155

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What Others Have To Say

  1. Dangelo23

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    Nov 17th 2008, 00:57

    I would LUV to see a cafe or themed restaurant in this space that can draw a crowd 24/7 instead of just at nite.

  2. gaustad

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    Nov 17th 2008, 01:15

    Main drawback of this failed location....NO PARKING....4800 sq ft is also a lot of space....subdivide and create parking and you will find tenants

  3. Dangelo23

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    Nov 17th 2008, 02:56

    You have the same amount of parking here as Spot Coffee does, so how will it affect a tenent? Forget parking, that's what the street is there for and your two legs. More than enough parking withen several blocks around this building.

  4. STEEL

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    Nov 17th 2008, 03:48

    Too bad they did not tear this building to to make some parking

  5. Dangelo23

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    Nov 17th 2008, 04:01

    I know, why not just tear down the remaining buildings across the street and turn that entire block into a surface lot. ...... Hell No!!!!!

  6. vgs

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    Nov 17th 2008, 06:03

    same parking as Spot, I don't think so. You cannot park on Goodell or Edward and traffic flow is faster and more dangerous

  7. jamesbflo

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    Nov 17th 2008, 06:27

    yet again, its always about parking. am i the only person in this city who seems to be able to find a spot when i need one.

  8. GDF81

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    Nov 17th 2008, 07:18

    as a person that went to blu and wondered how the bar was even open (because it was aweful, trashy and just completely unwelcoming) then to Tabu which I really thought was a joke since the same people (with the exception of one of the past owners) tried a new "type" of a bar.. but hmm same location.. same interior.. same goofy crowd but maybe labeling it a gay ULTRA club was going to make it a success.. well obviously not! you could have called its fate after the opening was really big with a little buzz but then a few weeks later the club was limited to underagers and the disenchanted marcella crowd (aka very small group of people) Blu had more people when it was open. They did not grab enough attention early on because it was nothing to talk about.. people were going back to Marcella's after giving it an opportunity. The two twentysomethings that opened the bar had no idea what they were doing because they made the same mistakes again and again weekl after week.. while worrying about getting a cabaret license which never panned out (if you remeber reading about the controversy with the church on the corner)... When I talked to people about why they still preferred Marcella instead of Tabu..people said "Tabu is ghetto" "Its just boring" "no one is there" "its too dark" . soo I wonder if that had something to do with this place's failure??? This club had its destiny written for them as soon as they tried to do something really grand without the right ingredients (namely location, crowd, style, distinctiveness, and the most important a hard working intelligent owner not on drugs) So given what I said, it would have been great for someone to invest in a gay club that would have worked for the gay scene but this another failed attempt added to the multitude in the last 10 years..Marcella most love it...On a side note, I think this location would be perfect for like NEO furniture or like a car show room ( if it was bigger).. its corner lot would be perfect for the drivers by.. please no more bars! its obviously not going to work.. or wait maybe someone can open up a reggae bar? thats new and different? lol lol j/k

  9. Andrew

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    Nov 17th 2008, 07:29

    A jazz club would be nice anywhere downtown

  10. stephenjames716

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    Nov 17th 2008, 08:10

    I agree james, parking is not the issue. people are used to the burbs where they have a nice paved paradise in front of every store. Get out and walk a little bit, it will be good for you!

  11. DPH

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    Nov 17th 2008, 08:22

    Gaustad, in many cases you are correct in regards to lack of parking deterring tenants from Downtown Buffalo, but that rule applies primarily to larger office users. Believe me, I know it all to well. I've worked on many suburban office parks (approx 10 years ago) whereas many of the tenants were not renewing leases or expanding in their Buffalo offices, relocating to the burbs, and parking was the primary reason. In some ways I felt bad working on that type of project, but then I realized that as an architect I was responding to the market and needs of occupants and business. The parking was a political problem to solve, not an architectural one. (although willing to assist). But back to my initial comment, In this case 4,800 sf of small shop retail would do fine with street and miscellaneous parking. The lessor will have to be selective to seek the proper tenant which could survive in this parking situation. Never an easy task, but I think they'll do ok.

    I wish the new project success.

  12. al-alo

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    Nov 17th 2008, 08:23

    Im not sure if parking is so much a potential problem for the location, rather, it is relatively isolated for being downtown. Perhaps the redevelopment of the Trico and UB's nearby presence will add to the density of the area.

  13. flyguy

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    Nov 17th 2008, 08:27

    Just seems like a disconnected location from the rest of the "club" critical mass in the Chippewa district and its often a cold poorly lit and lonely walk between Chippewa and that section of downtown, just feels a bit unsafe unless the Theater District is going. If you park in the Chippewa District and most will because thats where the action is I find it hard to believe most would be willing to walk there or relocate their cars after paying for ramp space. This seems a better location for a coffee shop, something to serve a day crowd.

  14. allentowndiva

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    Nov 17th 2008, 08:55

    I have to laugh at the comment about Marcella's, Yes, Tabu was a dive, but to think Buffalo's gay crowd's only other option for a "dance" club is Marcella's is a very sad statement indeed. Friends took me once to see a "Drag" show, just a bunch of children roaming around a large rundown, seedy space. With all the great empty locations around town why is there not a nice, clean dance club for the gay population to patronize? If I was a gay male I would be very disappointed with Marcella's being my only option. That being said, as to the post, this space is going to be a hard sell, from what I understant the tenents of the building got tired of the problems associated with a bar, it is too far off the beaten path for retail and as against surface parking lots as I am, that corner is difficult to park within a safe walking distance due to traffic off the expressway and lack of other pedestrain security. Maybe once the city is done upgrading the streetscape it will become more of a destination location. On a side not, what is up with the empty lot across the street? Is it ever going to be built on? Last I heard a few years ago it was going to be a new build condo building.

  15. Dangelo23

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    Nov 17th 2008, 13:14

    Tabu looked nice but ran horribly. Instead of offering decent food, they only had Wings and Pizza (Um, you can get that anywhere in Buffalo and why would we want that in a place that looks like it should be suriving Panini's and Sushi?) And as soon as you walked in a Dart Board, just totally stood out of place. OH AND, if you order a Wine there, the bar tender and waiters look at you like "HUH, what's that?" and looking around and all you see is empty beer bottles, and only about 10 people on a Saturday night, no wonder this venue didn't make it. It was horribly promoted. Tried to be like any other bar in the city instead of being unique.

  16. Metropolis

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    Nov 17th 2008, 17:39

    Parking is still free on city streets after 5pm, isn't it? Why not use the vacant lot across the street for now?

    That's not the issue anyways, it's visability and marketing. Never looked accomodating to me to want to visit before.

    Hopefully something successful will fill this void.

  17. MyNameWasTaken

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    Nov 17th 2008, 18:26

    Problem with parking? A few friends live in that building and I never have an issue with parking and usually find a spot right on Main street.

    Although its sad to see Tabu go (it certainly wasn't a dive), Buffalo wasn't ready for this concept and it doubt ever will be. Furthermore the gay population of Buffalo is too set on the "same ole same ole"; trying to introduce any type of new gay establishment is usually met by bitter criticism and dirty ploys to quickly shut them down. Colbalt on Delaware is an except example.

    I think a middle of the road coffee/pastry/restaurant would do great in this space with the reconfiguration of Main and influx of new residential and business development. Please, just not another bar off the beaten path.

  18. MyNameWasTaken

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    Nov 17th 2008, 18:29

    Problem with parking? A few friends live in that building and I never have an issue with parking and usually find a spot right on Main street.

    Although its sad to see Tabu go (it certainly wasn't a dive), Buffalo wasn't ready for this concept and I doubt it ever will be. Furthermore the gay population of Buffalo is too set on the "same ole same ole"; trying to introduce any type of new gay establishment is usually met by bitter criticism and dirty ploys to quickly shut them down. Colbalt on Delaware is an excellent example.

    I think a middle of the road coffee/pastry/restaurant would do great in this space with the reconfiguration of Main and influx of new residential and business development. Please, just not another bar off the beaten path.

  19. bfloMatt

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    Nov 17th 2008, 18:47

    "You have the same amount of parking here as Spot Coffee does, so how will it affect a tenent? Forget parking, that's what the street is there for and your two legs. More than enough parking withen several blocks around this building."

    Here's the difference. Driving on Elmwood has become more of a compliment to the bustling foot traffic scene that has taken over the area. Especially the part of Elmwood where SPoT is, it could honestly survive with no parking at all. You have 4,000 high school students within a mile of SPoT. Great houses and a younger crowd that walks and is into the 'coffee shop' scene and moves around.

    It's a totally different demographic in that area, so you really can't compare the two.

  20. meanoldman

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    Nov 17th 2008, 18:50

    parking parking parking!!! ride a bike, take a bus or rail, or taxi. leave your precious car home and save gas.

  21. heathersmiles

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    Nov 17th 2008, 19:43

    Here's an idea, why don't you take away all parking from the Elmwood Village and make this a pedestrian and bike only community. If this is what is required for true Urban Living, then I am sure that the good people of the Elmwood Village will embrace it with open arms.

    No more cars on Elmwood...

  22. Assaroni

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    Nov 17th 2008, 22:00

    no parking? no cars? you see what that did to Main street

  23. BuffaloItalianGuy

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    Nov 17th 2008, 23:30

    We need a few strip clubs in downtown Buffalo. Most of the other large cities in this country have at least one strip club in their downtown area.

  24. gaustad

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    Nov 18th 2008, 00:15

    I second that - Downtown Buffalo lacks a five star gentleman's club....

  25. Dangelo23

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    Nov 18th 2008, 16:22

    The Tabu was seedy even with the glam appearence. It was not promoted right, the owners/managers were rude and it's staff had no knowlege of anything but Beer Drinks. It was trying to compete with Club Marcella's instead of sticking to it's own unique establishment. Yeah, many locals want the same old same old, but give them the option of something "DIFFERENT" and maby they will change thier minds once exposed to something new.

  26. onestarmartin

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    Nov 18th 2008, 21:12

    Tabu tanked in the coolness factor fast. I never had a problem parking the few times I went. It's real problem was typical for buffalo gay bars...seedy dumps that attract social outcasts and drunks. We figured out pretty fast why gay professionals do not go out in this city. Pity, we have the cash to spend.

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