RESERVATIONS, PLEASE?

RESERVATIONS, PLEASE?

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Much has been said about parking in the City of Buffalo. We need it, we don’t need anymore, bad maintenance of surface parking lots, too much control over municipal parking, not enough control over municipal parking, and more.

However, we cannot dispute the amount of development going on in the downtown sector of the city. I, personally, cheer on this development, from the Federal Courthouse, to the Dulski, to the Statler, and much more. Both city and state governments must be proud of the advances in adaptive reuse with the many loft and residential developments and the fact that these properties are being filled. The next target is retail for those living and working in the Delaware and downtown sectors, a necessity for all of us.

Tourism is sure to follow, especially in the advent of the National Trust Conference in 2011. Amidst the new builds, adaptive reuse projects, and restorations lie many mid 19th century homes that will attract the armchair architects through this tourism movement. All added, we will be receiving essential increased dollars to our city and county coffers as a result.

It’s exciting, to say the least. And though there are many naysayers out there, if what is proposed comes to fruition, we will be booming along.

Throughout my readings on Buffalo Rising there have been some concerns that need to be addressed to assure the quality of life of those residents in the historic districts are not compromised due to this boom. Here are a few examples:

1/7/08 – zenfur: While I'm not saying this lot should become a parking lot... parking *is* getting much tighter down around there if you want to check out any of the bars, restaurants or music. I live and appreciate the city.... but driving around in circles trying to find a spot, then walking 4 blocks in the rain (should have been snow) last week was a pain...we almost went someplace else. Have any parking ideas been floated for Allentown?

1/7/08 – Kelly: You think that's bad? Imagine living there and trying to do the same... Grocery shopping is a two-person job around here. Double park, unload everything to the sidewalk while cars honk and you get people swearing at you, guard it all since it's more than one trip's worth and leaving some unattended to carry the rest in means it'll be gone when you get back, and wait for the other person to circle the neighborhood looking for parking and walk back to carry everything inside in shifts.

4/5/07 – Biniszkiewicz: … Parking is an issue in that neighborhood (West Village). Every working day and every school day the neighborhood gets inundated with commuters seeking free parking. Parking is a key issue for residents and a key impediment to recruiting good tenants. It's not a baseless concern.

11/21/06 – Dak: …There are several beautiful buildings on Whitney Place, Prospect Ave, Carolina Street, Georgia/Chippewa, and on Johnson Park. Many of them were built as hotels for the PanAm Exp. They're gorgeous and they have a ton of history. One of my favorites is a vacant building called "The Whitney" and it has its name over the front door. The uses for all of these cool buildings range from being vacant to being used as rooming houses, to being used as Section 8/welfare housing. Why? Well, I believe a lot of it has to do with the lack of off-street parking. They're simply not marketable to people who would pay premium rent if there is no place to put a car…

As far as the development goes, they are providing adequate parking facilities as many of the new projects include parking ramps, underground parking, etc. Unfortunately, as many of us in the Allentown and West Village have experienced, unless the parking is free, those that work in those structures and have the right to use it will continue to park in neighborhoods, avoiding the daily parking fee.

But, what if there was a plan that would encourage drivers into the downtown area to use park and ride facilities? The use of park and ride would provide increased revenue for public transit that might translate into better routes and increased service. Additionally, less traffic translates into less road congestion, easier access to city-center, and less pollutants in the air. And, most important, safety for children living in urban areas as it is compromised due to high traffic congestion.

And what would happen to the Historic residential districts? Maybe, as one poster noted, more families would be interested (as long as there are better schools available for their kids) in investing in these areas to provide a well-rounded life for them and their children.

Residential parking has been a blessing for many communities throughout the United States. As mentioned above, they look at the prospect of increasing use of park and ride systems as a way to deter air born pollutants and traffic congestion. The residential parking systems used in these cities and towns have provided quality of life to residents of these areas who are now going through what Buffalo is just embarking on now – increased development and walkability working hand-in-hand.

For the past five years, we in the West Village have been attempting to come up with a solution for our parking woes. Many of us lived here way before the Chippewa Entertainment District was established and young men and women drove to school instead of taking public or school bus transportation.

Historically, these mid-19th century neighborhoods such as Allentown and the West Village were not built with cars in mind. Many homes lack a driveway, much less a garage, and homeowners and tenants alike have to park on the street. As well, these neighborhoods also have many multiple dwellings that compound the parking deficit even further. On Johnson Park there are two major apartment buildings that house 30+ units each, a high school, and a theater that take up much of the on-street parking day and night. Now, compare that to the seven driveways available for residents and you can see the issue that residents are faced with 24/7.

I had to laugh the other day when a neighbor called to see if I wanted to go out for shopping and dinner. The first thing we did was determine when we would go and how long it would take us. Then we looked at the theater schedule and the schedule for dance instruction at Folkloric who rents space at the New Phoenix. We determined we would not have any place to unload groceries when we returned, even if we skipped dinner, so we rescheduled our shopping for four days later. Sure, we could have gone out to dinner at the restaurants surrounding us, but does anyone else go to the same places all the time? Do we have a right to visit other establishments throughout the city? And as far as walking for grocery shopping, please, how many do that when they have to fit in work hours and the number of bags into the mix?

On St. Patrick’s Parade Day we shudder. No one goes anywhere unless they plan to return home after 10:00 pm. The greenspace of Johnson Park is used as a surface parking lot, one year counting 37 vehicles sunk into the mud at one time. Litter is strewn about the streets and public urination becomes a sport. I am sure it is the same for Allentown during the Art Festival and other events and weekend nights.

Sure, it’s easy to retort, “The why did you buy there?” Well, there are many in both Allentown and the West Village who have lived in their homes before the previous mini-booms and the lack of code and law enforcement due to budget cuts. The past saw ticketing of vehicles, towing of vehicles and arrests for those who compromised our neighborhoods. We had a 2:00 am bar closing back then. There was less “cut-up” of older apartment buildings, creating additional units. There was much less need for parking in the area for visitors and employees of City Hall, the Federal Building, schools, and event-goers.

Development is good and we welcome it, but there needs to be compromise here to assure quality of life for the residents who stayed through the bad times and actually contributed to remedying the ills of the downtown neighborhoods.

To create residential parking provides improved incentives for others to invest in these areas. But, it takes a “home rule” through the NYS Assembly to allow the city to create these zones. Jessica Keltz of Buffalo Place discovered the home rule used by Ithaca, Cold Springs, Eastchester and Harrison, NY among others. She provided a template and we were hoping to schedule review and public hearings on same to create this for the Historic Districts of our city.

Here is some of the text used by Harrison, NY in their home rule:

New York Vehicle and Traffic Law Section 1662-c - Residential Parking System In The Town Of Harrison.

1662-c. Residential parking system in the town of Harrison.

1. Notwithstanding the provisions of any law to the contrary, the town board of the town of Harrison may, by adoption of a local law or ordinance, provide for a residential parking permit system and fix and require the payment of fees applicable to parking within the area in which such parking system is in effect in accordance with the provisions of this section.

2. Such residential parking system may only be established within the area of the town of Harrison which shall mean that area generally bounded by the following:

All of that area beginning at the intersection of Harrison Avenue and Broadway; running north on Harrison Avenue to Davenport Street; thence running east on Davenport Street to Oakland Avenue; then running north along Oakland Avenue to the intersection of Macy Road; running thence north on Macy Road to the intersection of Macy Road and South Road and Sunnyside Avenue; running thence west along Sunnyside Avenue to Sunnyside Place; thence north to Emerson Place; thence along Emerson Place to Emerson Avenue north to Hyatt Avenue; thence west on Hyatt Avenue to Harrison Avenue; thence south on Harrison Avenue to Webster Avenue; thence west on Webster Avenue to Crotona Avenue; thence south on Crotona Avenue to Calvert Street; thence east on Calvert Street to Broadway; thence south on Broadway to the intersection of Harrison Avenue, the place of beginning, permit parking may be implemented on both sides of any street whose center line is herein utilized as a boundary description. Provided, however, that except for the reference to state highways solely for the purposes of delineating the boundaries of the area described in this subdivision, the provisions of this section shall not apply to any state highway maintained by the state.

3. Notwithstanding the foregoing, no permit shall be required on streets where the adjacent properties are zoned for commercial/retail use.

4. The local law or ordinance providing for such residential parking system shall:

(a) set forth factors necessitating the enactment of such residential parking system; and

(b) provide that motor vehicles registered pursuant to section four hundred four-a of this chapter shall be exempt from any permit requirement; and

(c) provide the times of the day and days of the week during which permit requirements shall be in effect; and

(d) make not less than twenty percent of all spaces within the permit area available to nonresidents and shall provide short term parking of not less than ninety minutes in duration in such area; and

(e) provide the schedule of fees to be paid for such permits; and

(f) provide that such fees shall be credited to the general fund of the town.

5. No ordinance shall be adopted pursuant to this section until a public hearing thereon has been had in the same manner as required for public hearings on a local law pursuant to the municipal home rule law.

Now, there are some arguments that say those parking in the designated 20% of public parking should pay the fee and leave the residents with free designated parking, and then there are those (myself included) who say they would gladly pay an annual fee for residential parking. Here’s my personal take – why should taxpayers outside the designated areas pay for a benefit for exclusive use by these residents? Yes, we should have metered parking for the 20% available for public use, but to defray the costs of signage and permits, as well as administrative costs, an annual fee (averaging from $25 - $50 depending on the location throughout the US) is a small price to pay for having a spot to enhance your living conditions. Remember, not everyone is young and healthy, there are those who need their own transportation to live independently. For those residents who are strapped for cash due to income, neighbors could create a supportive fund to assure they can obtain parking as we here in the West Village have discussed.

There are great advantages to residential parking that supersede the residents’ needs as mentioned above. Traffic congestion and air-born pollutants can be remediated with increased use of public transportation that could occur if free-parking was not available. (Just an observation from the other day: A man parked in front of the building next door to mine around 8:00 am and when he left his car he kept looking around. Now, this, to me, may be cause for suspicion, so I watched him go around the corner. I was on my way to work and when I got into my truck and turned the corner I watched him walk into the Federal building that has a ramp for parking attached to it.) If free parking is not so available, there will be more use of the park and ride systems decrrasing the need for additional lots.

Here’s an excerpt on the matter from Assemblywoman Joan L. Millman, 52nd Assembly District during her November 1st, 2007 oral testimony at New York City Traffic Mitigation Commission public hearing held at New York City Tech Klitgord Auditorium:

I propose the following alternative ways to reduce traffic in the city:

1. 3-Person HOV Zone for Manhattan Below 60th Street: A 3-Person HOV Zone on all roadways leading into Manhattan below 60th Street should be created. This is not without precedent as the city implemented a similar plan during the transit strike of 2005 and in the months following 9/11.

2. Residential Parking Permits: In the HOV Zone and all adjacent zones, including outer borough neighborhoods such as Downtown Brooklyn, there should be fee-based residential permit parking, similar to Boston and Washington, DC.

In San Francisco, a study was made that produced the following:

Why is downtown parking reform needed?

This legislation will address two of San Francisco’s most vexing problems, housing affordability and traffic congestion. The legislation will increase the supply and affordability of downtown housing, while preserving the downtown's historic transit-oriented character and reducing traffic in the downtown and surrounding neighborhoods. This legislation will:

-Make housing more affordable: A UC Berkeley study found that housing without parking sold for 12% less than comparable units with parking, were affordable to 24% more San Francisco households, and sold an average of 41 days faster than condominium units with parking.[1] A study by the Sedway Group found that downtown condominiums without parking were up to 21% more affordable than comparable units with parking.[2]

-Create more housing options for real San Francisco households, not wealthy out-of-towners: The 2000 census found that approximately 30% of San Francisco households didn’t own a car; the percentage of car-free households in transit-rich areas exceeds 50%, including up to 70% in the Mid-Market and Tenderloin neighborhoods. All the downtown housing currently being developed with one (or more) parking space per unit will change the character of transit-rich downtown neighborhoods.

-Make Downtown more family-friendly: A recent study by the Department of Children, Youth and their Families found that the city's unsafe streets are one of the top reasons that families with children are leaving San Francisco. Making our downtown streets safer and downtown housing more affordable will help attract and retain families with children.

-Reduce traffic congestion: A 2005 San Francisco State University study found that each residential parking space generates several vehicle trips per week, and that travel behavior differed greatly between residents of buildings with one space per unit and buildings with reduced parking where people were more likely to bike, walk, or take transit.[3] The Transportation Authority projects 250,000 new vehicle trips in San Francisco by 2025 if we don’t change our transportation policies; this legislation will help us reduce new vehicle trips while using our limited street capacity most efficiently.[4]

-Stop the privatization of downtown streets: Private automobiles are the most space-intensive form of transportation, and have been allowed to compromise the safety and mobility of pedestrians, bicyclists, and transit riders. Reduced parking will generate fewer vehicle trips, which makes it easier to reclaim road space downtown for wider sidewalks, bicycle lanes, and transit lanes. It will also allow us to create more housing and jobs overall in the downtown.

-Create transportation options for downtown residents: Building transportation options, like car sharing and bicycle parking, into each new development reduces traffic and provides transportation options for residents.

-Make downtown a better neighbor: Downtown traffic spills into the dense residential neighborhoods surrounding Downtown, like the SoMa and Tenderloin, which despite having some of the lowest car ownership rates in the city have some of the highest rates of pedestrian deaths and injuries from auto collisions. Reducing traffic will reduce the public health and environmental impacts on these neighborhoods.

-Support production, distribution, and repair (PDR) jobs: reducing traffic generated by residential uses will facilitate goods movement to production, distribution, and repair (PDR) uses on the edges of downtown;

-Improve pedestrian safety and economic vitality: excessive traffic and inadequate sidewalks compromise pedestrian safety—especially for children and the elderly— and hurt the economic vitality of neighborhood-serving retail. This legislation will reduce traffic conflicts and improve the attractiveness and safety of walking, bicycling, and transit use in our downtown, by eliminating garage entrances and portes cochere on major transit, bicycle, and transit routes.

It may not be a major issue for most living in the city, but the downtowners experience this every day and wait for a workable solution used by other cities in the US and in our own state. I think it best for our Historic Districts to work together on this one, especially in light of future development.

It’s not the development or developers at fault here. They are providing parking for their properties. However, we must not forget all who are impacted by this tremendous push for the future of our city. It’s like the Girl Scout song I learned so many years ago: “Make new friends, but keep the old, one is silver and the other gold.” The residents are the old friends, please, government and elected officials, don’t forget us.

-Image prepared by WestCoast Perspective

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What Others Have To Say

  1. al-alo

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    Jan 17th, 11:18

    ok - here i go:

    parking in almost all cities is difficult. the only reason it is as easy here is due to the disinvestment that has plagued our area. has anybody tried to park in toronto, boston, chicago, where ever? it isnt easy. but as Buffalo continues its slow rebound (fingers crossed here), parking lots will disappear as they are more profitably redeveloped and only conpound the problem.

    schemes to improve parking can have some success, however, they only address a symptom not the cause of the issue. and even if there was a space available for every car - there would be another side effect: traffic jams would quickly increase Buffalo's enviable commute time.

    that said, for the price of a few underground parking garages, WNY could quickly and easily reinaugurate NF -Buffalo - Depew passenger rail service.

    currently that route has three existing stations served by amtrak, and are currently hosting passenger rail. New stations, equipment and sidings would be the primary and relatively small capital costs - much less than what metro rail expansion would likely cost. and station locations are still available at their historic sites.

  2. LivingForge

    3 ratings12345
    Jan 17th, 11:24

    Regional commuter rail is a brilliant alternative!

  3. reflip

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    Jan 17th, 11:45

    The example of the nightmare of grocery shopping is valid. But instead of coming up with a parking plan to make it easier for you to drive to the grocery store and back, why not lobby for a small format grocery store in your neighborhood that would be accessible to people who prefer not to drive. Something like the Elmwood Market, discussed in another thread. More of those are needed. Of course you could still drive if you wanted to. But you wouldn't be forced to.

  4. chris69

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    Jan 17th, 11:45

    The GBNRTC is planning to add commuter rail between Buffalo and Rochester....they should also add commuter rail to Batavia and Rochester as well.

    I never understood the parking issue because most of the parking ramps I used had spaces however I once tried to park in the Augsperger (Ithink) and there wasnt a single available space on what 6 floors...and then it hit home how much downtown does need parking but Ithink that there really needs to be a cooperative effort with parking garages, gas tax, parking tickets to put together a long term strategy for extending the light rail as well as having sufficient parking.

    We must encourage Buffalo to grow east, south and along the waterfront...and thats going to mean parking but it also needs to mean expansion of light rail.

  5. gaustad

    5 ratings12345
    Jan 17th, 12:00

    I think we can take the Statler and "The City Tower" off this list. We all know that both projects are dead!

    I walked through the Statler yesterday with a friend from Buff Econ Renn Comittee and I hate to brek the news, but there is NOTHING that has been accomplished.

  6. MJWorthington

    2 ratings12345
    Jan 17th, 12:16

    I don't see them on the list above. Why bring them up here?

  7. RisingDamp666

    5 ratings12345
    Jan 17th, 12:23

    Once again, San Francisco is a stupid analog for Buffalo. San Francisco is quite self-sufficient in most regards where it comes to access to shopping, services, and employment. Buffalo more closely resembles Philadelphia or St Louis in the fragmented and incomplete urban matrix. Shopping and employment are now in the suburbs. services are spotty in town and far-flung, in many cases. Just because you have ample public transit or rail doesn't mean you can have a car-less existence here. Getting to where San Francisco is means attracting human capital and raising the value of inner city neighborhoods. That is a 100 year project for Buffalo. Your Grandkids, or GreatGrandchildren will thank you for that. ( or not ) To accomodate future retail and residential, Buffalo needs comprehensive land use planning. Every plat in the city should be evaluated as to best and highest use and willy-nilly surface lot checkerboarding needs to be controlled -not stopped. Public ramps can be strategically placed but only where they can have the most impact. It's far better to leave this mandate to private developers. If your project is so viable, why didn't you build enough parking?

  8. MRodgers

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    Jan 17th, 12:33

    Damp, I think you posted to the wrong article. Did you want the Paladino vs. Main Place Parking?

  9. Hoss

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    Jan 17th, 13:27

    First we need the County to stop sprawl.

    All new builds downtown need to incorporate underground parking. With a percentage for public use.

    Light rail needs to be expanded. All these other cities you speak of, NYC, Boston, SF, DC, they all have pretty extensive public transportation systems. If we had a loop that brought the east & west sides into the fold, it would open up all kinds of possibilities. Spurs connecting to the airport, and suburbs, and Toronto would be the icing.

    More bike lanes, and places to lock them up.

    An official urban plan. This city is very disjointed. It needs to cohesively be brought together. Where there are lapses, they need to be connected via mini shuttle buses.

    Enforcement of sidewalk clearing (snow).

    Limit metered parking to two hours. Then enforce it. 3/4 of the spots on Elmwood down near the 'action' are utilized by shop owners/employees. I see folks feeding the meters all day long.

    The rising costs of fuel will actually really help Buffalo. People will want to consolidate. When gas prices go up, NFTA ridership growth hits double digits.

  10. RaChaCha

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    Jan 17th, 13:43

    Chris69, when you wrote, "The GBNRTC is planning to add commuter rail between Buffalo and Rochester," did you really mean "Buffalo and Niagara Falls"--? If there is actually something in the works regarding commuter rail between My Fair City and Your Fair City I'd love a link or contact where I can get more information. I've tried to use Amtrak when traveling to clients or other activities in Buffalo, but as you probably know the current service is too infrequent, unpredictable, and subject to delay to be of real value for commuting. I can't agree strongly enough with your second statement about establishing commuter rail service between Buffalo and points east.

  11. SLEEPL8

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    Jan 17th, 14:07

    I am happy that MRodgers didn't include /City Tower off the list of developments. There isnt much going on in the Statler at all and the tower proposition will never be more than just that...a proposition.

    I agree with Hoss that it should be required that new structures in the city (should one ever be built) have underground or adjacent parking.

    Would a small scale grocery store work DT at this point? I don't think that there are enough residenets to support one...but unfortunately it is a factor taken in to account for people considering moving dt. It's a catch 22. My friend lives in Manhattan. He parks underground, shops at the small market on the first floor and lives on the eighth floor...but that's in Manhattan. Why wouldn't a residential structure that his work here?

  12. ChocolateShake

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    Jan 17th, 14:51

    Ms Rodgers, when downtown has a serious parking problem then we will know that Buffalo has finally risen from the dead. Until then, understand that minor inconveniences such as those described are just ordinary facts of life of living in a city. I embrace the day that there are real parking problems downtown as it will be a sign of people living, working and shopping down there.

    If the noise, litter and inconvenience of parking your car far from your home bother you, perhaps you should look into living in East Auora. I doubt you would have to encounter any of those issues in the community. Otherwise accept the realities of life. I'm respectfully have no sympathy for your grievances as outlined above.

  13. ChocolateShake

    6 ratings12345
    Jan 17th, 14:52

    Ms Rodgers, when downtown has a serious parking problem then we will know that Buffalo has finally risen from the dead. Until then, understand that minor inconveniences such as those described are just ordinary facts of life of living in a city. I embrace the day that there are real parking problems downtown as it will be a sign of people living, working and shopping down there.

    If the noise, litter and inconvenience of parking your car far from your home bother you, perhaps you should look into living in East Auora. I doubt you would have to encounter any of those issues in the community. Otherwise accept the realities of life. I'm respectfully have no sympathy for your grievances as outlined above.

  14. sbrof

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    Jan 17th, 15:04

    It is simple, put a led sign on each of the parking garages that show total number of spaces and total number of vacant spaces.. People "think" there is no parking but in reality there is plenty that is open to the public.

    No one wants to give up their suburban ideals that you can park in front of your destination. But even now most parking lots are a longer walk to the store than parking a block away downtown.

  15. WTF

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    Jan 17th, 17:40

    ChocolateShake is assuming way too much here. I have friends on Johnson Park who haved lived there since the 60s with neighbors right next door and next door to that who have lived there almost as long. These people are elderly and have stayed with the neighborhood for years. They deserve to be considered dfor their needs. The point of this post was not the parking issues in downtown Buffalo but the parking issues that people who try to get free parking cause neighborhoods who payproperty taxes in those neighborhoods. what's wrong with allowing some reserved parking for residents in the light of new development?

  16. RisingDamp666

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    Jan 17th, 19:11

    I don't know, MRodgers what's the difference? Downtown parking is an argument that will never be won as long as people enjoy personal transportation. Whether it's a developer masking naked greed and self-interest with concern for the "public good", or city planners promoting (badly) one newfangled paradigm after another, the basic issue never changes. If you don't live within a mile of everything, there's gonna be a car somewhere ,and in a colder climate, even a block can become an obstacle. If neighborhoods become too cogested for convenient on-street parking, then we're talking ramps. Supply and Demand.

  17. MRodgers

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    Jan 17th, 19:56

    RisingDamp, you have a very good point there. However, I'm not debating downtown parking. In my text I wrote "Historically, these mid-19th century neighborhoods such as Allentown and the West Village were not built with cars in mind. Many homes lack a driveway, much less a garage, and homeowners and tenants alike have to park on the street. As well, these neighborhoods also have many multiple dwellings that compound the parking deficit even further. On Johnson Park there are two major apartment buildings that house 30+ units each, a high school, and a theater that take up much of the on-street parking day and night. Now, compare that to the seven driveways available for residents and you can see the issue that residents are faced with 24/7."

    That's the issue. Our neoghborhoods have become congested, albeit a blessing in disguise as we are able to live and work together effectively. Add that to the number of people who work in the downtown area who ignore the parking made available to them to save the daily or monthly parking fee. That compounds the situation. I'm all for the new development, as I stated above. I welcome it and consider it a way to enrich the city-living I need to feel whole. But, we have people who need parking on their own streets. That's why the developers made parking available such as the new Federal Building on S Elmwood. But, as you watch a 65 year old neighbor pull away from the curb to go to a doctor'a appointment and aomeone take the space to walk two to three blocks away for the day, just to avoid a $4 dily parking fee that tranlates into $40 a month, you realize that there needs to be some protection for these and other folks who have lived in the neighborhood for 30-40 years and bought their homes before all the additional vehicles and such.

    We're not talking the reign supreme here, just a few parking spaces reserved for residents that need easy access to their homes due to a myriad of issues. I do, however, agree with your post above.

  18. Starshine

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    Jan 17th, 20:23

    Is there a good argument on why, exactly, city residents should just "accept the realities of life"? Should we accept other realities as well, and stop attempting to improve anything here? This is not such a threatening or unreasonable idea - residential parking programs have been implemented in other cities with success.

  19. Starshine

    7 ratings12345
    Jan 17th, 20:28

    Is there a good argument on why, exactly, city residents should just "accept the realities of life"? Should we accept other realities, such as crime and blight, too, and stop attempting to improve anything? A residential parking program is not a new or unreasonable proposition - they have been successfully implemented in other cities.

    Aaah, Buffalo - we don't want no stinkin' changes here...... if certain things suck it's because we like it that way!

  20. bboozehound

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    Jan 17th, 21:20

    I find it interesting whenever I browse this site that the people here are insistant on looking to the Chicago, NY, Toronto, and Boston's of the world for the answers to our small town problems. People use the common urban buzz themes like "light rail" and "underground parking" as solutionis to our every day problems. In reality though, how many cities across the country actually have the need combined with the ability to pull off those solutions in a creative and effective manner? Its hard to find cities of our size and similiar financial contsraints to even compare ourselves to. Our neighbors Pittsburg & Cleveland are much larger then Buffalo and have a considerablly larger amount of private wealth. It would seem prudent to look to cities in a more comparable range as ours if we are looking for examples of how people are "doing it right" in other areas of the country. The Austin, Raliegh, Indy, and Milwaukee's seem to provide a better comparative scale then the nations largest, most dense, and wealthiest cities.

  21. al-alo

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    Jan 18th, 09:09

    fine bboozehound:

    austin: austin - leander commuter rail approved by voters, raliegh: regional rail under development, currently served by amtrak indy: currently served by amtrak, commuter line is currently being discussed. milwaukee: 7 amtrak round trips to chicago, Kenosha-Racine-Milwaukee (KRM) Commuter Rail in planning stage (2011)

    so there you are. and im sure i didnt cover something. we are waaaaay behind the curve on regional/commuter rail.

  22. NewBuffalo

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    Jan 18th, 10:54

    deal with it, real cities have parking problems, Buffalo does not have a parking problem it has a crappy public transportation system, the metro rail goes nowhere, cabs are hard to find. on another note seeing NO ONE will deal with an update on Buffalo CITY TOWER, here is the latest article on it

    http://allthingsbuffalo.wnymedia.net/blogs/category/city-tower/

    this is pretty sad, if true Issa needs to get out of town.

  23. DanielSack

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    Jan 18th, 11:36

    Excellent post Marilyn. Good comments from Hoss.

    I'm often the first to say to people who think parking is a problem here, that the only problem is the perception of a parking problem. But I understand your complaints and think they are valid.

    As the price of gasoline rises what Hoss wrote will come to pass. More people used downtown 60 years ago. Without doing the research (which would be interesting) I guess there were complaints about parking but probably not as "justified" as your complaints now. 60 years ago the population didn't need as many cars to get to the centralized far away shopping areas that we have today. There were specialized food stores and general grocery stores near where everyone lived. They didn't have 500 varieties of crackers but people didn't "need" them then. Life was simpler.

    Eventually better public transportation and less centralized entertainment and shopping zones will provide residents and visitors with fewer needs for cars. But that won't happen soon enough for Marilyn.

    Until then borrowing from another city's experience would work well for residents.

    Except that it takes enlightened city officials to take action. I don't have much hope for that!

  24. Dionysus

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    Jan 18th, 14:46

    "...just to avoid a $4 dily parking fee that tranlates into $40 a month..."

    $4 a day actually translates to about $20 a week for someone who works Monday through Friday. Most months have 4 weeks and a couple extra days. So that's actually more than $80 a month, which isn't exactly small change for some people. I believe that a taxpayer from North Buffalo or the East Side whose taxes go to maintain streets in the West Village, or other areas downtown, should have the right to park on those streets that he or she helps pay for. Maybe it's just me, but I think public streets are just that...public. And, to me, public means it's open to everyone, not just select people.

  25. MRodgers

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    Jan 18th, 17:35

    Dionysus, $4 a day translates into a smaller amount due to the monthly parking fee offering. Otherwise, they wouldn't/couldn't sell monthly parking. As well, with monthly parking they have a reserved slot even during weekends.

    Additionally, the post was not only about the WV but Allentown, too. Hope NB is treating you well.

  26. Dionysus

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    Jan 19th, 00:00

    OK, MRodgers, if you think that commuters pay $20 a month for parking downtown so they can go to work, then all I can say is that you are grossly misinformed. When was the last time you purchased a monthly parking pass? What do you know about those "parking fee offerings" you referenced? Are you one of those $50/hour broom pushers? I understand that your post was not only about the WV but other parts of the city as well. I just don't think that many people park on Allen Street to go to work at M&T Plaza. And that's why I mentioned the WV. Is it not closer to all the exciting new development mapped out in the graphic you included? And I didn't get anything from your post that conveyed your concern for Allentown or their parking woes. I mentioned the WV ("or other area dowtown") because your effiorts to promote the WV, which are not exactly without self benefit, are not exactly a closely guarded secret. Get over it.

  27. MRodgers

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    Jan 19th, 13:27

    References to Allentown include:

    "1/7/08 – zenfur: While I'm not saying this lot should become a parking lot... parking *is* getting much tighter down around there if you want to check out any of the bars, restaurants or music. I live and appreciate the city.... but driving around in circles trying to find a spot, then walking 4 blocks in the rain (should have been snow) last week was a pain...we almost went someplace else. Have any parking ideas been floated for Allentown?"

    "1/7/08 – Kelly: You think that's bad? Imagine living there and trying to do the same... Grocery shopping is a two-person job around here. Double park, unload everything to the sidewalk while cars honk and you get people swearing at you, guard it all since it's more than one trip's worth and leaving some unattended to carry the rest in means it'll be gone when you get back, and wait for the other person to circle the neighborhood looking for parking and walk back to carry everything inside in shifts."

    "Historically, these mid-19th century neighborhoods such as Allentown and the West Village were not built with cars in mind. Many homes lack a driveway, much less a garage, and homeowners and tenants alike have to park on the street. As well, these neighborhoods also have many multiple dwellings that compound the parking deficit even further."

    "Sure, it’s easy to retort, “The why did you buy there?” Well, there are many in both Allentown and the West Village who have lived in their homes before the previous mini-booms and the lack of code and law enforcement due to budget cuts. The past saw ticketing of vehicles, towing of vehicles and arrests for those who compromised our neighborhoods. We had a 2:00 am bar closing back then. There was less “cut-up” of older apartment buildings, creating additional units. There was much less need for parking in the area for visitors and employees of City Hall, the Federal Building, schools, and event-goers."

    "It may not be a major issue for most living in the city, but the downtowners experience this every day and wait for a workable solution used by other cities in the US and in our own state. I think it best for our Historic Districts to work together on this one, especially in light of future development."

    And, might I also add that Allentown and the Fruitbelt are both affected by the development of the Medical Campus and other projects in that area?

    Additionally, the parking fees mentioned are for the ramp located on Niagara Street and somewhat attached to the new Federal Building.

    Self-benefit? Also for all those who reside without driveways or two-car garages like some who don't understand the reasons behind asking for this type of resolution to be reviewed and studied. That's why many other cities can create better quality living and increased use of public transportation.

    It's a double-edged sword. Public transportation doesn't get used as effectively due to easy access for communter to park for free (among other reasons) and free parkers don't use public transportation due to the inability to find adequate public transportation and the availablity of free parking.

    There will be a follow-up article that considers the many intelligent posts here that address public transportation. We need to increase this, particularly in the West Side and Downtown area, an area known for high numbers of asthma and cancer victims. Public transportation, and the use of hybrid buses, can also alleviate the high incidence rate of these issues. But, more on that later.

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