Learning From Las Vegas

I was recently in Vegas for a few days. Except for the beautiful distant desert mountains and a relatively small but extremely concentrated part of this city known as the Strip, this place known around the world for its gambling is quite ordinary.
The city could even be described as boring beyond the bounds of Las Vegas Boulevard and its over the top dedication to human entertainment. Oh, but what a place the Strip is! While there I could not help rolling the phrase "Learning from Las Vegas" through my brain. That is the title of a 1972 book by well known architects and architectural theorists Robert Venturi and Denise Scott Brown.
The book was a controversial examination and glorification of the temporary and kitschy nature of everyday American architecture; the architecture that tended to be embraced by the general public (as it does today as well). They gave validity to the type of buildings that the elite dismissed as non-architecture. The book is mostly comprised of their observations on the Las Vegas Strip concentrating heavily on the Casino signs. Earlier Venturi had written the even more controversial 1966 book entitled Complexity and Contradiction in Architecture, which is credited with kick-starting the anti modernist movement known as "Post Modernism".
Together these books set the groundwork for that post modern (anti modern) movement which is known for buildings rendered in cartoonish and ironic representations of historic building forms. Today in post-post modern Vegas almost everything discussed and illustrated in the Learning from Las Vegas book has been wiped away in favor of more extravagant hotels and casinos. The Las Vegas Strip has been taken to an extreme beyond anything Venturi could have imagined back in the 1970s and the Strip itself as an experience, now rivals gambling as a reason to go to Vegas.
So after that long-winded intro, what does this all have to do with Buffalo? While I was there and knowing that Buffalo was throwing its hat into the gambling ring, I wondered if Buffalo could learn anything from Las Vegas. Certainly, Buffalo will never be a Vegas in terms of gambling, entertainment, or shopping. Buffalo's whopping new $300 million casino would be but a spec on the strip where the new casinos are costing over $2 Billion a pop and sport more that 2000 hotel rooms each. All 4 casinos in the (Ontario and New York) Niagara area do not add up to one Vegas casino. Even in light of this overwhelming difference, I think Buffalo has a lot to learn from Vegas in terms of urban design, architecture, and in how gambling relates to the city. Architectural snobs among you might stick up your noses and say, "Oh, but buffalo has such a grand architectural pedigree. How could it possibly learn from cheap garish and temporary Las Vegas?"
I say, "Plenty." In an odd twist of irony, Vegas, that Mecca of bad taste, just may be producing some of the best urban design in America (at least along the strip). Take away the excessive architectural frill, and the strip still offers one of the greatest urban pedestrian experiences in the world.

Long gone is the car-oriented Strip of Venturi's Vegas. Today's Vegas is built for the pedestrian. The sidewalks provide continual new experiences as views and vistas open up and recede. Gambling halls often open directly to the street, feeding their energy to the city. This is not the case with most casinos (or most buildings of any type) being built around the country today.
Generally, casinos (outside Vegas) are promoted and licensed by governments as an easy source of new revenue, and struggling municipalities look on them as a possible means of enlivening long-dead downtowns. This is the case in the old industrial suburbs of Chicago, the center of Detroit, both sides of the Falls, and in downtown Buffalo among many others. Unlike Vegas which has a mostly continuous sidewalk circus of pedestrian events fronting its casinos, these other cities have built casinos as isolated islands with no relationship to their surroundings.
Detroit may be the most egregious case of anti urban casino building in the country. Its four new casinos are built remote from each other in various corners of its sprawling downtown. Worst of all, the Greek Town casino was built on a rare vibrant block-long part of the city. Instead of building on the synergy of this popular strip it actually displaced most of it. None of the Detroit casinos relate to each other or their urban setting. Each is designed to bring people inside and keep them there. Certainly that is the goal of the Vegas casinos as well, but Vegas understands that the interrelationship between casinos is an important part of their attractiveness and success. Joel Giambra understood this when he suggested that the Senecas build their 2nd WNY casino in Niagara Falls rather than in Buffalo.
Unfortunately Buffalo is following this same island building scenario. The Buffalo Creek Casino which is being constructed in a remote corner of downtown will be surrounded by a massive parking garage on 3 sides and a park on the other. It is also being built by the sovereign Seneca nation, meaning that the city has very few opportunities to influence its design. From all appearances it is not the kind of place you would tend to stroll by. That pretty much puts the kibosh on the idea of enlivening downtown. All hope is not lost however.
Based on renderings released, Buffalo will not have an active street-side casino, but that does not mean that plans can not be made to make the streets surrounding the casino lively. Already plans are well along to reenergize nearby the Canal-side and Cobblestone neighborhoods. Unfortunately these emerging downtown entertainment areas are separated from the Casino by a massive moat of parking. Is any planning being done to link these areas that promise to draw large crowds? I have heard nothing. Can Vegas teach Buffalo how to draw Casino Crowds to new Canal-side shops? I think so. Buffalo can not wait for the Senecas to repair this dead part of the city. The city must take advantage of the draw that will be Buffalo Creek Casino and make certain that people do not come only to gamble but, as in Vegas, to stroll the streets and spend money around the casino.

How about this to begin with - Start planning for a massive new convention center in this area - perhaps linked to the casino hotel? Start planning an extension of Metro Rail to the casino. Start planning the elimination of the massive parking lots in this area. Ask what can replace these city killers and draw people through the area on foot. Think big, and believe that it can be done! Oh, that sounds like "vegas think" (of course, there is a lot of money in Vegas). With the right kind of planning, the Senecas will need to be part of the city instead of an island.

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Caroline Kennedy was in town for a visit with our mayor yesterday. A possible choice to succeed US Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Kennedy's name has been mentioned along with that of Attorney General Andrew Cuomo (son of former New York Governor Mario Cuomo) and our own Byron Brown, among others.
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Well it is Christmas time in the city and the NFTA helped put people and especially children into the mood in a very festive and fun way. One of my favorite memories of childhood was taking the train downtown with my grandfather. I would gaze out the windows and watch the tunnel speed by. It always felt like we were going a million miles an hour.
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reflip
Great post. Will this put an end to the endless "Casino will kill downtown/casino will save downtown" argument? Will anyone actually listen and try to create a walkable "district," or even at least try to create a pedestrian experience among the islands that are the casino and HSBC Arena?
This is such a tremendous opportunity that it is sad we'll most likely eff it up again.
On a mildly related note, I saw a lecture by Walter Hood last night. He showed examples of how he created inviting and celebratory public spaces amidst pedestrian-unfriendly buildings and areas (like under and around freeways in Oakland). His work strikes me as relevant for Buffalo in this context (Casino/HSBC/waterfront).
Any landscape architects in the BRO readership?
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sbrof
great article. The city really needs to start working on the infrastructure surrounding the casino. The utter lack of maintained roads and sidewalks is horrible and would only fuel people to look around and toss out the idea of going anywhere else than the casino.
There needs to be signage, wayfinding to and from the casino as well as an attractive landscape to get you there. There are some small plans moving through the CRTC for an extended light rail as a loop to the end of the current line but as far as I know there hasn't been any official support for it from the NFTA or the City.
In all honesty you call the city out on their intentions here. They have no intension of creating a lively downtown with the casino as one piece of the puzzle. Where people want to walk shop or live. They see it as a revenue generator and thats about it. Another couple million dollars that will disappear into the general coffers and union benefits. Sad but true. The Office of strategic planning I feel is caught between lack of power and political will. They often had the right and best intentions to do what is right for the city but run into the wall of the political union machine when it comes to implementing it. The real question is not what can we learn from Las Vegas. There are plenty of lessons out there for Buffalo but how can we actually get the city to support and implement the right ideas.
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the_trooper
I've always thought the Buffalo casino was a bad idea, now I'm working towards downright loathing it! The only people that will come to this casino are people from Western New York, spending money they shouldn't be spending in a casino where the money has no imapct on down town Buffalo. Bad, bad, bad! There will be shuttles to take people there from the Southgate plaza in West Seneca and similar places all over the suburbs and dropthem right back in the same spot so there is no chance of soiling themselves in Buffalo. No way people will walk there or out and around. No one will go there and say "Hey lets go see the commercial slip while we're here." Or even go to a down town restaurant cause the casino will probably have one built inside.
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TownLine
There's at least 1 good one that has some experience in this area, reflip.
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davvid
Good articles Steel. This one and the two Paul Rudolph articles really stand out.
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RonR
Trooper,
It is possible for your vision of the casino to happen. If it does, it is the fault of the city..100%.
I have always said that people view the casino as a single entity and not a piece of the puzzle. This is not going to happen overnight.
The most important thing for this to work, IMHO, is to remove the Perry projects. People complain about the Casino not opening to the city or the focus is on making it an island. OF COURSE IT IS. A housing project is around the corner! If the Perry Projects were gone, I bet the casino plans would have been different.
Action=Reaction folks. Look at the big picture.
As for ideas in the post, I love the convention center. I will take that idea a step further. There are companies like Gaylord Ent. in TN, who run private convention centers. They build it, maintain it AND bring in conventions to it. Since they run several convention centers around the US, they have long term contracts with groups and could rotate those groups to Buffalo. Maybe not 12 months of the year but for 6 months of the year Buffalo is AWESOME in terms of weather. Find a way to GIVE a huge section of land south of South Park to a group like Gaylord in exchange for building a new convention center. Best part for me in that plan is it would NOT be a public project and subject to the BS changes in the Wicks Law.
As for the old Perry project site, maybe a new home for the Bills and it would be a dome? I have run loose numbers before and it "could" be done with little to no money from taxpayers. Really!
Next extend the Metro down South Park. Albany should fund this. After all, they are dumping a wad of cash on the subway in NYC.
Eventually, the pathetic excuse of a convention center downtown could be upgraded in design and downgraded to a conference center. If lucky, a reconnection to Mohawk and Genesee,
Just imagine this are in 8 years!
Imagine the sales pitch in the summer. Say in Buffalo, day trip to the falls, time on the water and if you come early a concert in the park on Thur.
Even better would be in the winter. Coming from Cuse, RoChaCha and Toronto on mid- Friday. Sabres game that night. Saturday at the Chip Strip and the Casino. Sunday with the Bills. All from a 1 mile radius, most in a couple of blocks.
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gaustad
Makes you think just how far behind Buffalo is.....when I go out west, I feel like I am traveling in to the future.
When landing back in Buffalo (Southwest Air), The announcer on the intercom said, "Welcome to Buffalo, where the time is 1983."
Always stuck in my head.
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SurfKing
More Buffalo chips, that's what comes out under the tail of the city of Buffalo ,the new bridge span,this casino,Bass pro myth & the water front [a couple broken stone slabs and call it a lock- tisk tisk tisk- and all those boarded up houses??????????Mayor HA HA Brown- WTF
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carl
perhaps one of the keys to making the casino/bass pro development work...is to build strong pedestrian connections between each attraction...
put in heated sidewalks, benches, fix store fronts, mini parks, better lighting, bike lanes, etc...if people are encouraged to walk, bike, or bus.....from say the arena to the casino, or waterfront to casino, perhaps new businesses will open up between them.
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carl
this is certainly one of the reasons that Niagara falls Canada has been so successful.
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flyguy
I totally agree with you carl. Absolutely. I would also suggest lining the streets down there with trees as well as vegetation softens hardscape and is more pedestrian friendly as well. Better lighting will be huge as well.
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MJWorthington
When I was there a few years ago It was nice to find everything walkable and entrences for the Casinos right at the street. It actually drew me into them where as I would have pry walked right by a lot of them otherwise.
Detroit's are horrendous in their set-up. I so wish the Buffalo Creek was designed up to the street to help promote the actual apinoff development that we are all demanding instead of working against it.
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RonR
MJ-
How about a pedestrian bridge from the casino to the Perry projects. If the hotel is booked, maybe the could rent units there and book them as efficiencies.
Sorry for the sarcasm.... It just gets a little old when people want something but do not want to remove the issues that cause what they do not want to happen.
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vivian
Great article Steel. Even though Buffalo/Niagara Falls will never be Las Vegas, Niagara Falls is now rated as one of the top 10 gaming destinations in the world. Buffalo needs to hustle and capitalize on this.
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Prodigal-Son
STEEL - great post.
But for the responses - this a perfect example of how most BRO folk need to step out of the Elmwood echo-chamber for a second, and actually talk to the people in charge of these projects.
A perfect juxtiposition to this article is the fact that Buffalo Business First just hosted a breakfast, open to the public, where Waterfront development was discussed. The key panel members were from the CVB, Seneca Gaming, Benderson and Erie Canal Redevelopment corp (both representing Canal-Side). A major portion of the discussion was in response to what STEEL is discussing and recommends: how do we make that area a destination, and not islands. Specifically, how do you get people to travel, in the snow, from the Erie Canal to the casino.
All four speakers said that each development is contingent upon the other. HSBC Arena is the "bridge" between the Canal Side development, and the casino. All listed a developed Cobblestone District as key to that link as well. And the head of CVB said he'd love to put a new convention center smack down in the middle of all of it, on the water (where the open land is), but with the state running a deficit, now is not the time to ask for $500M.
My point is, there are people in charge of answering some of these questions. We could all shoot from the hip, or we could take the trouble to educate ourselves.
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bison716
In the Buffalo News earlier today:
The mayor also noted the city has an agreement with the Senecas that requires it to designate 15 percent of its slot take for economic development efforts in the neighborhoods surrounding the Michigan Avenue casino site.
“We’ve committed a portion of those dollars as an economic engine which will not only help Buffalo, but will also lead to retail and other developments that will boost sales tax earnings for Erie County,” Brown added.
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MJWorthington
Good idea, lets build everything as a bunker and plan nothing looking toward the future or geared toward future development because part of the area is suspect. We'll get real far.
Maybe that is an excuse for the design of east end of the parcel, but does not stand up to the design of the west end of the parcel. What's to be scared of over there? Parking lots? Future development heading toward the inner harbor? The Seneca's were not forced to buy those parcels of land either. They knew the Perry complex was nearby.
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sonyactivision
It's easy to see how the Senecas would be tentative about opening their casino to the street. There's not much around there right now so there's little to feed off of or into. When Las Vegas began, that was very much the same situation. Fremont Street was 'urban', but unloved and scorned by the high rollers that preferred the more self-contained air conditioned hotels and resorts that sprang up along the Strip. It only took 40 years for developers in Vegas to acknowledge the human activity on the Strip and play upon it. So Buffalo is a new kid on the block and for a while, our casino will be more like the ones in early las Vegas or present-day Detroit. What Buffalo can do is get proactive and bring the street to the casino in ways large and small to foster that same streetscape that STEEL found in Las Vegas. There may not be a monorail, but there could be some happy, delighted tourists!
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pegger
The notion that the casino in Buffalo will only attract people from WNY is correct. So is the one which suggests that there will be no benefit whatsoever to neighboring businesses. Indian casinos are everywhere in America. And, it isn't the gambling that attracts people to Las Vegas anymore. Time to get realistic about this pie in the sky. Not to burst anyone's bubbles or shatter anyone's dreams, but none of these expectations are going to be realized. As someone who has been to Vegas often even after the advent of local Indian Gambling, I never go for that reason. I can drive two miles to do that or merely drop in a casino on my way home from work. Vegas is a destination with all the stereotypical amenities anyone's dreams can imagine. They are actually all there! Build every project mentioned in these posts tomorrow, but the people won't come.
But, rest assured, the WNYers who like to gamble will and they won't leave with many discretionary dollars. Sorry for the downer, but the only benefits derived from this sole casino will be more crime, more underpaid workers, continued poverty, and a lot more dollars for the Senecas. More than likely, they will toss paltry gifts to local agencies for good PR while the cost of maintaining the infrastructue falls on already overburdened Erie County taxpayers.
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TonyMacaroni
steel I rarely agree with alot if what u say but you are pinpoint dead in with this article. I live in Vegas, 10 mins from the strip in a new walkable brownstone and loft community in Summerlin with parks, walking trails and retail being built. Its amazing what is being built here and all over vegas. The best architects and designers are here and building... My development was built by a group who built 250 lofts in TriBeCa in NYC. Point being g is that all over LV we have walkale mixed use developments, the strip, Summerlin, The District at Green Valley Ranch, the new amazing Town Square etc etc I have a streetside Nordstrom and Crate & Barrel being built one block away. Snobs beware
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TDSBLO
Pegger,
I agree with you. Reality bites.
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pegger
I think Tony will agree with me that Vegas is more than a casino on the water front. It is a unique place with resources seemngly limitless in its scope and a world unto itself. I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I would hope that he would agree with me that the situation in Buffalo could never rival what it has taken many decades of serious investments and a vision that just isn't possible here. Tony?
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vgallagher
I now live in Las Vegas, and I think that Buffalo learning from Vegas is a misguided notion.
Vegas respects one thing: nothing. It's heritage goes the way of the wrecking ball every day here. And as for urban design, Vegas is one of the worst-planned cities I have ever encountered...EVER. We have multiple streets with the same names, strip malls as far as the eyes can see, cul de sacs cul de sac cul de sacs, ridiculous. I actually love it here, but that's because it took a lot of time to discover everything here that is UN-Vegas. The food, the thrift stores, the arts, etc. I have lived here a year and a half and I have never gone to a Casino except to cash a paycheck or to go to the House of Blues to see Bad Religion. A Casino could work in Buffalo, sure...but only if it's a stand-alone Casino. NO hotel, NO restaurants...well, maybe one or two. But the Vegas model would never work in Buffalo.
Buffalo needs to learn from successful mid-sized cities. Vegas can only be a role model to itself, because there is no other urban area quite like it.
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vgallagher
ToniMacaroni...
You live in a mighty sweet situation. Brand new builds after decades of horrendous urban planning. I live in southeast Vegas. An older neighborhood, although not as old as those close to downtown, and I like it a lot. My house is great. But, overall, Vegas has suffered from unscrupulous developers with no forethought as to what makes communities thrive. Summerlin and Green Valley Ranch are basically suburban developments...they aren't even IN Las Vegas.
And Crate and Barrel and Nordstrum. Snobs beware? More like, snobs, start your engines.
When are people going to realize that appealing to upper income levels is NOT the way to make a community work.
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sonyactivision
Lake Mead is disappearing rapidly. Las Vegas won't miss its water till the well runs dry. And the well is running dry. We'll see how they do with their "limitless resources" after that.
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TonyMacaroni
hey Vgallgher, Summerlin IS in Las Vegas and GVRANCH is in Henderson, excuse the slip. No wonder u complain, the southeast is like the East side of Bflo and Cheektowaga wrapped in one. Move to Symmetlin with the rest if us humans and u will have a much more enjoyable experience. But honestly the walking trails in the master planned communities are phenomenal and the retail is great. Old parts of Vegas are not asthetically pleasing at all and u have zero freeway access, 215, 15 or 95
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vgallagher
TonyMacaroni...
Sorry, but you couldn't pay me to live in Summerlin. With all the humans? Oh geez, I'm sorry...I forgot to kiss rich-people-ass...my bad. Get over yourself. And yeah, Summerline retail...ooh, the "upscale" mall experience. Man, sign me up. As for southeast Vegas, I'm sorry we aren't rick enough for you. I guess you have a nice little e-home here on gentrification-happy buffalo rising.
And by the way, you were aware that the 95 passes through Southeast Vegas, right? I live several blocks away. Oh, that's funny...I live about a 2 minute drive from the 215, too. Hmmm.
SONY...yeah, the Lake's slow death is fucking frightening, and it really seems like no one is trying to do anything about it. Then again, the Bellagio likes to entertain with their fountain shows, and the golf courses have to stay green. Can't let those corporate folks get too upset, now can we?
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