It's Time For Action... Not Apathy.

It's Time For Action... Not Apathy.

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One thing I could never understand is how property owners on streets like Grant get away with owning boarded up buildings. There are a dozen of these buildings on the street that have been boarded up for as long as I can remember. Recently, there have been handfuls of investors who have decided to make investments on Grant, despite the fact that boarded up neighboring properties have such a negative impact on the street. Why doesn't The City come down on these property owners? Why aren't there steep fines being issued to the owners of the buildings? These are not small problems that a slap on the wrist will solve… these properties are a slap in the face of Buffalo.

At this stage in the life of Grant Street it would not take a heck of a lot (on The City's part) to tighten the reins of derelict property owners on streets such as Grant. Are the investors who are trying to make a difference going to be rewarded with direct action from The City (see Prish Moran's project)? Is Bob Franke from the Grant-Ferry Association going to get the help he needs? He's been fighting to see these boarded up properties get into the right hands... to no avail. If the landlords will not take responsibility for the condition of their properties, then why should they be able to get away with keeping the rest of the commercial district from thriving. It's time that The City held these types of landlords responsible for the 'In-your-face' deplorable conditions that for some reason are acceptable for streets like Grant. Isn't this something that CityStat should be monitoring? Get these properties into responsible landlords' hands and we'll have another thriving commercial district on the city's West Side. It’s time for action, not apathy.

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  1. Sal

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    Feb 9th 2008, 15:40

    Aside from some basic exterior maintenance, a building owner only has to keep the property secure (boarded up). There are several different reasons why buildings sit vacant - preservation laws, high tax assessments, bankrupt/insolvent owners, litigation, greed, etc.

    We're in the process of purchasing a property on Grant St. It should be interesting to see how it turns out.

  2. RhodeIslandBoy

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    Feb 9th 2008, 15:45

    The problem with citistat is it is reactive, not proactive. It takes a citizen to complain about the properties for the city to write the owners up. Once the problem gets into the system, the city will follow up on it.

    I turned in a property on Grant for graffiti today. I urge everyone to pick a property on Grant and report it. It can be done online at www.city-buffalo.com under City Services > Mayor's Call and Resolution Center. Quick, easy and anonymous if you want it to be. You get a 6-digit tracking number and can follow the progress of the case online.

    The state of Grant Street is truly pathetic.

  3. RhodeIslandBoy

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    Feb 9th 2008, 15:48

    And Sal, there is a city law against graffiti. It is the building owner's responsibility to remove graffiti within 24 hours of the graffiti showing up, boarded up or not. It is only enforced if somebody complains about it. And there are plenty of occupied buildings on Grant with graffiti on them.

  4. Sal

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    Feb 9th 2008, 15:58

    RhodeIslandBoy - I agree with you. Thanks for letting people know about the Mayor's Complaint Line. You can also call in at 716-851-4890 and just say you'd like to remain anonymous.

  5. NBJOHN

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:01

    WTF.... put one of those police cameras in front of some of these buildings to at least catch the graffiti a**holes.

    I remember in 1995 when I graduated from Buff State, being able and feeling safe walking to frontier beverage and there was a bar at the time called The Pastime lounge near the Buzz n Bee (across from Wilson Farms) on Grant. Honestly if I were to walk that stretch today (why I would I do not know) but I assume nothing would happen to me, but why take the chance. So I stay away in my comfortable Hertel neighborhood and the scum wins.... Too bad - it always felt like a very edgy neighborhood with much potential.

    Buffalo has many of those neighborhoods. Seems like we do not have much of a middle class left in the city, which I feel is one of many of the city issues and leads to neighborhoods deteriorating, and these buildings become what they are in the above pictures.

  6. DanielSack

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:05

    Why? Because it takes citizen activists to get City Hall administrators to do their jobs. You expect $70,000/year patronage hires to be self motivated?

  7. Sundial

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:09

    RIB - that's a great idea, "squeaky wheel etc." The more folks complain about the deplorable state some of these great buildings are in, the more likely their owners will actually be forced to do something.

  8. hodgepodge

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:12

    ...i was extremely scrutinized for recent (very) minor renovations to the front of my home. 4-5 visits from bldg inspectors who gave me attitude. and, nothing happens to these owners? what gives?

  9. vgs

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:24

    Nice jon Queenseyes, this is how BR readers can come together for positive change. This is the type of posts that should define BR.

  10. carl

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:30

    yes..because we all know that GRAFFITI is the biggest problem on grant street....

    right...

    much worse than drugs, crime, and poverty....

    fix those problems, and business will return, and the 'graffiti' problem will fix its self.

  11. vgs

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    Feb 9th 2008, 16:31

    I mean nice job

  12. al-alo

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    Feb 9th 2008, 17:04

    Sadly crime, abandoned buildings, graffiti are symptoms of the much larger problems: poor urban schools, population loss, public safety and lack of opportunity.

    citistat doesnt address it. painting over graffiti doesnt hide anything. sprawl is really just people fleeing it.

    if only there was an effort to address ONE of these large and great issues. a way an individual could contribute.

    hmmm, perhaps the police reserves? or the guardian angels . . . wait - i dont like wearing berets.

  13. AtwaterLouse

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    Feb 9th 2008, 17:29

    What exactly is the complaint in the following?

    One thing I could never understand is how property owners on streets like Grant get away with owning boarded up buildings.

    When vacant buildings are left open and unboarded, bloggers such as FixBuffalo heavily criticize the owners about that. And now for buildings that are boarded up, here we see complaints about that too. Damned if they don't, damned if they do.

    As several comments have pointed out, the issue seems to be lack of demand. How about Buffalo Rising lead by example and move their offices from the in-demand Cobblestone district into one of those vacant Grant Street properties? I'm kidding of course - BR should locate their privately owned business where ever they want to locate it. Free country and all that.

    But seriously, what's the complaint here? Is it against the law to board up a building? Actually it's against the law to leave them open and unsecured, right?

    And what does this mean exactly about 'to no avail'?

    Bob Franke from the Grant-Ferry Association going to get the help he needs? He's been fighting to see these boarded up properties get into the right hands... to no avail.

    What specific actions has Mr. Franke asked the city to do 'to no avail'? I've no reason to doubt that claim, but the article makes serious complaints without being specific enough to know if those requests would've likely resulted in those buildings being occupied. A few more details please?

    Lot of heat, very little light.

  14. optimist

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    Feb 9th 2008, 18:40

    To those who blame the building inspectors for the aesthetic and safety mess that is Grant Street and so many other streets in Buffalo: think about this, they are not paid $70,000. They are paid $40,000. These are civil service jobs. I cannot speak for the Commissioners. The building inspectors have not received a pay raise since June 2003. In the mean time they have negotiated new contracts with the City, giving concessions, taking on new duties, and losing personnel. This adds up to getting paid the exact same salary while taking on additional responsibilities. The real problems our City faces are the continued absence of inspired, creative, true leadership in government AND business and the unwillingness or inability of the residents of this region to subscribe to change and hope. Do not blame the civil servants.

  15. jwherdle

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    Feb 9th 2008, 18:44

    Yes!.... this artical "hit the hanner on the head"! these building should be knocked down or fixed up! these owners suck!

  16. hodgepodge

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    Feb 9th 2008, 19:03

    ... so I should accept badgering from city inspectors -- while numerous commercial/multi-residential buildings fall apart -- just because they haven't recently received a raise? by the by; neither have I. also, and as we all know, they supplement their salaries quite nicely on city time with their "side" businesses

  17. optimist

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    Feb 9th 2008, 19:15

    Unprofessional work is unprofessional work. There is no excuse if the complaints raised against you are invalid. My larger point was that the leadership encourages even the best intentioned civil servants (ie: the many who do NOT misuse paid time) to do less than great work. Good leadership would give the inspectors the tools, resources, and motivation to take on the big jobs rather than spending time on "minor" exterior renovations.

  18. Charger

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    Feb 9th 2008, 20:08

    jwherdle writes, "knocked down or fixed up." Why on earth should they be knocked down because they have graffiti on them? Apart from that hideous, suburban Eckert store, when was the last time a new build went up on Grant? It is FAR more likely that the vacant buildings will can be affordably fixed up than that they can be knocked down and something viable built in their place. Especially on a street like this one is much more likely to see very small, low start-up fund businesses that need the cheap rent an existing building can provide. Knock these buildings down and you'll really kill the street.

  19. Charger

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    Feb 9th 2008, 20:10

    RhodeIslandBoy's got the right idea. Inspections is complaint driven, so complain away.

  20. Denizen

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    Feb 9th 2008, 21:28

    Newell, Step #1 is realizing WHY these buildings are boarded up in the first place. Lack of demand, crime, shrinking population base, and poverty are the root problems behind Grant's problems. Blight issues like graffiti and boarded up storefronts are symptoms.

    There's only so much city inspectors can do; throwing fines at property owners won't make those aforementioned problems magically disappear. Taking a carrot rather than stick approach might be a good start.

  21. nonono

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    Feb 9th 2008, 23:21

    "Get these properties into responsible landlords' hands and we'll have another thriving commercial district on the city's West Side." No Newell, what you will have is outrageously decayed structures in the hands of responsible landlords who will pay much to restore them, and then be hard pressed indeed to protect and recoup there investments!

    I point again to the editorial insincerity of BR. ECB has stated that BR chooses to portray Buffalo in positive light, unless there is a solution attached to its posters musings. Well, the solution proposed in this scenario would need to be realistic and viable. There is a huge and illogical leap in well intentioned logic here. The problem has been, is, and will continue to be the lack of decent jobs and discretionary cash in the pockets of our working class! These properties, however restored will still be wanting for good paying tenants, viable retail business, AND a customer base with cash in pockets to support these imagined businesses. This author is just as guilty as trolls in as much as this post is negative finger pointing, and lobbing narrow blame with out offering a 'comprehensive' solution to a problem.

    Jobs, jobs, jobs, provide them and all the pipe dreams espoused on this site may have a chance. Businesses open and close with such frequency on the prime 'Elmwood Strip' that it is hard to imagine that absentee slum lords are solely to blame for Grant Streets currant plight, and blight- though they are plenty responsible in their way for it's neglect. Why, if so much 'potential' exists in our city does the retail section of Elmwood Avenue between North and Virginia streets remain so thread bare and desolate? We cant even support a GAP in the city limits for Gods sake- and this perhaps one of the most democratic of retailers with the broadest possible customer base for our city.

    Without true state and county wide change that makes the region more attractive to companies that offer more than minimum wage jobs- our region will continue to wallow in its aggressive state of decay and abandon. By all means, individuals should do everything possible to hold irresponsible property owners to their legal responsibilities.....but these efforts alone will be greatly insufficient to stem the tide of decay and futility that engulfs Grant Street and all of the East and West sides of Buffalo.

    This readers of this sight are as much to blame as anyone else, look at the thousands of words pointedly wasted on the posts regarding the Bills! Dont count on the flailing efforts of our newly elected county executive to whorishly seduce the NFL to help the plight of our inner city either. The time and energy wasted on this athletic support is time and energy that he, and WE can ill afford in a county and city facing the challenges we face!

  22. rdtoledo

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    Feb 10th 2008, 09:45

    I can remember as a small boy back in the 80's how it was great to ride my 1st bike "HUFFY" which became my nickname. What happen after that was student housing started popping up and our parents thought that they could bank on them and ourselves just moved out to the burbs(Grant street was safe) I can remember stores and shops and things for teens to do(BELLS SUPERMARKET,SUPERDUPER,MIKES SUBS,D&K,WOOLWORTHS,GALAXY GAME ROOM/DANCE CLUB FOR TEENS,BIG-E BANKS,ITALIAN VILLAGE,PENNY CANDY STORE,DANCE SCHOOL POTTERY PLACE,ODDS AND ENDS,SAUSAGE PLACE--FOR GOT THE NAME JUST REMEMBER HE SOLD MILLION OF THEM(I THINK) AND MORE....NOW ME AND THE WIFE ARE REAL ESTATE AGENTS AND ARE WORKING ON SOME HOW TO HELP THE UPPER WEST BECOME THE UPPER WEST SIDE AGAIN--- rdToledo com--see ya

  23. hodgepodge

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    Feb 10th 2008, 11:48

    denizen, my friend, not suggesting that inspectors should repeatedly fine these owners, just pointing out that it seems that to me, a little old homeowner, I get hassled more than these owners do. why? it's comparable to the situation with meter maids/parking tickets. the city acknowledges that they do not ticket over in the "east side" b/c metermaids get harassed there. but, they ticket way too much (in my view) in the elmwood district b/c that's where the money is. why?

  24. RisingDamp666

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    Feb 10th 2008, 12:34

    God forbid Buffalo should put a living wage ordinance in place, lower taxes dramatically and woo venture capital for new startups, nonono. That would be progressive. This stretch of Grant should be lively and well maintained. Nobody builds this stuff anymore. Those "negligent landlords" need to be identified and their side of this kerfuffle aired. If they are absentee and truly don't care what happens here, then why not a public nuissance ordinance that allows the City to seize nuissance properties and sell them at auction? Too many police calls to an address? It also gets seized and sold or demolished. A proactive and progressive city wouldn't debate what kind of boarded up structures are most appealing to visitors or passers by.

  25. nick

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    Feb 10th 2008, 13:09

    nonono, you're completely right. Declining neighborhoods are a symptom of a failing economy. Loss of jobs, population and flight to the suburbs can only lead to what is happening in so many, I'd say the majority of neighborhoods in the city. It's only rational that a neighborhood with less jobs, less wealth and less people will sink. It's great that people are looking to fix their neighborhoods, and should continue, but until the macro problems are fixed the trends will continue. Until the powers that be change the business climate and make Buffalo an attractive place for investment, neighborhoods will continue to fail.

  26. ChocolateShake

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    Feb 10th 2008, 14:01

    AtwaterLouse - You raise a good point... Why hasn't BR considered relocating to Grant Street? The staff at BR seems to be the quintessential "creative class" whose presence could attract others to invest and locate on Grant St... I honestly think such a brave move by BR would catch the attention of others who might still be hesitant to consider a street most would avoid at dusk.

    Food for though: If BR wouldn't seriously consider relocating on Grant then why should anyone else?

  27. RisingDamp666

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    Feb 10th 2008, 14:12

    ChocoShake, they are the quintessential 'somewhat-creative class', so they're staying put in Elmwood.

  28. AtwaterLouse

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    Feb 10th 2008, 18:19

    ChocolateShake - Glad to see somebody noticed my irony earlier. Maybe the concern is that if BR moved to Grant St then the Cobblestone district building might become boarded up. Kidding, kidding.

    A lot of comments above express very good insights about the real issue on Grant and many other Buffalo secondary streets once filled with businesses but are now very empty - lack of demand. Sure, City Hall of course should try to cooperate with what Mr. Franke is asking for regarding enforcement. What is he asking the city to do, and how much difference does he think it will make if demand stays so low? What does the new council member Rivera say?

    And what does this mean?

    Bob Franke from the Grant-Ferry Association going to get the help he needs? He's been fighting to see these boarded up properties get into the right hands... to no avail.

    Who are the 'right hands'? Are they real people he knows of, waiting, ready, and able to buy a particular property - or does that refer to hypothetical owners who might not exist? The article was not at all clear about that.

  29. intheNO

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    Feb 10th 2008, 19:59

    choco-loco, BR has many quintessential characteristics, but creative? credible? realistic? not so much.

  30. BROKEEPSBLOCKINGME

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    Feb 10th 2008, 20:20

    Grant St is dangerous as hell over there, especially if you dont speak spanish...

  31. RisingDamp666

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    Feb 10th 2008, 21:14

    WHAT,BROKEEPSBLOCKINGME, no caps?

  32. wizardofza

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    Feb 10th 2008, 22:31

    Good idea....BRO relocating their offices to Grant St. would be akin to them actually putting their money where there mouths are.

    Otherwise, pining over what once was and not doing anything tangible about it is no better than armchair QBing.

  33. RisingDamp666

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    Feb 10th 2008, 22:47

    You can't expect them to occupy every second-hand structure they write about, otherwise they would have to change their name to M&T Bank.

  34. AtwaterLouse

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    Feb 10th 2008, 23:54

    True, it was a joke and nobody expects it. But the idea's absurdity illustrates why the street has so many empty buildings now. Why those being boarded up is considered so much worse than being left wide open for de-coppering, etc. seems reasonable to ask. Not that questions are often answered.

  35. JohnMartin

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    Feb 11th 2008, 11:32

    Curious Newell Discovers Urban Blight!

    http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=curiousnewellkb1.jpg

    Tune in this week to read Curious Newell's overly simplistic analysis of the problems facing urban areas in Buffalo!

  36. joshking2

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    Feb 21st 2008, 22:50

    Having been directly involved in that neighborhood for many years, the problem isn't a simple solution. Old buildings that need lots of work + low property values + high concentration of poverty + Mediocre business enviroment= urban diaster. The resident who are left need jobs that pay liveable wages, this will create disposable income, which brings better shops, which will give the commercial district building owners a reason to fix up buildongs.

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