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Does anyone know what type of building was originally at this corner? Anyway, if there are no original pictures of this corner this would spruce up the streetscape.

Awesome Awesome Awesome.

perfect is all i can say

Paul Johnson seems very dedicated to building up this block of Elmwood, good place for investment.

Big step forward for elmwood. lets tackle the pharmacy across the street next!!

Al - It's nice to see that you have a sense of humor.

Stewie - It's not elitist really, there is another KFC Downtown that had board on it also. I'm not sure when it closed up. But if you need to know where to get KFC, I'm sure you can go to KFC Website to get the Buffalo locations.

great go with it.

To biilybobtoo: Glad you're coming to Buffalo, but on your particular question, you're out of luck. No Popeyes (or even better, Bojangles) no chicken and waffles (that I know of) and in general, kind of a wasteland for good fried chicken.

Do like I do--become a master of making your own!

Cheers.

WANNA BET?? ....IF!! AND WHEN!! IT IS BUILT ,That despite the drastic improvement over KFC building, the MONDAY MORNING AND WANNABE ARCHITECTS WILL BE FINDING REASON to criticize facade, setback, use of or ,some other silly reason to HINDER , Alter or delay the project of someone who has the $$ and the desire to invest and see his "dream" building erected. And so goes life on the Elmwood Strip.

This makes me wish that childrens hospital was moving to the life sciences campus

This building is what Elmwood needs. It needs infill projects like and the few remaining homes restored. The loss of the Atwater really hurts Elmwood. I never resented Panos for wanting to expand their business....just so many sites on Elmwood or Delaware that Panos could have gotten without having to demolish.

Now we are going to say goodbye to yet more rbuildings residential and commercial for the sake of Childrens.

Yet aside from this project....the struggling sections of Elmwood remain struggling, the strong areas of Elmwood keep demolishing to expand

Its the error or Forever Elmwood and the Elmwood Business Stip that just doesnt try to create a consensus where new development is encouraged to struggling sections and strong areas are encouraged not to demolish but to restore.

This building on the KFC site is the perfect example that there are locations for new development on Elmwood.

A 4th floor would have been nicer!

Lets worry about filling the parking lots first before we nit pick about number of floors.

The struggling sections of Elmwood, Utica, Ferry, Delaware, etc...

They are struggling not for bad geographic location...

They are struggling because there is no development to attract ones patronage

This development proves one thing loud and clear...there are no bad sections of Elmwood...only insufficient development!

Can this building handle a 4th or 5th floor? Of course.

Elmwood could handle another 10 story residential like that low rent tower...

Elmwood could handle a trolley from downtown to Delaware park...

Elmwood like Buffalo suffers from insufficient development....

Its developers follow like a herd close to previous success and thats why demolition rules...while other blocks languish...

There will be no problem filling parking lots....

Furthermore, it would be smart for FOREVER ELMWOOD to put together a marketing deal with childrens hospital so that the community could share in using those parking spaces to attract further development.

what a bunch of racists! kfc is the element you snobs did not want on ur street of artists and {deleted}

ill bet an Apple store never opens anywhere in western ny except for the one at galleria

Damn!

Assaroni, you have so much anger and frustration...that is not a good combination with greasy and not always fresh deep fried chicken.

Better have your cholesterol checked...

I hear that if Apple doesn't sign on.....Tiffany will.

Another to-the-sidewalk type of building would certainly be a nice touch to that location. Now if only the herd of crack heads that frequent that Sunoco nextdoor can be dealt with...

CRobs, so glad people are finally starting to get it on this site......back in the day, there would be severals responses disputing the fact that there are no crackheads at Sunoco.....they're everywhere!

Check out these old renderings for this corner: (Scroll down a few comments on this page) http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=114505&page=81

This is awesome news plain and simple. I would like someone to explain why every time there is a good proposal people here say "Well I would like it to be taller." I really think you need to fill all the other parking lots on Elmwood before you build up. Besides that true growth won't just happen on Elmwood for this part of the city moving west with updated buildings, higher rents and commercial areas will really create growth in the city.

CRACKHEADS ARE KILLING THAT CORNER! THEYRE THE ONES WHO NEED THE GREASZY FRIED CHICEKN

they can put a KFC that passes health code inspection on the first floor of the new building ;)

whats the solution for the crack head problem? I hate it over there... they need to step up the patrols.. someone is obviously selling drugs there! The redevelopment of sunoco provided no improvement to the crack head problem. The building looks great but I just think they need to be realistic about what type of people will be hanging around the building aka crack heads..I would not rent any space over there if its anything like it is now!

Why are "the crackheads" such an issue for some people? They are pretty pathetic and are usually harmless. Is it just fun to pick on weak people? In the early 70's I worked at the gas station that predated the present one and in those days it was the "drunken bums" that people complained about. Prior to this I believe it was "the lepers" that ruined the neighborhood.

no, the expansion is a bad thing if done on the cheap, and incorrectly (in my view), as the Hospital wants to do. why can't they expand on their current campus intead of taking over more houses for parking and a new building and then demolishing part of the 'old" hospital for, you guessed it, more parking. believe me when I say that the Hospital has a negative impacy on local business--trust me that nektar's clientele is not from the Hospital

"Crackheads" are not harmless. My friend just got robbed at that corner. Blackrocklifter, crack causes several social problems and is illegal. That is why it is being bloged about on this sight.

"Crackheads" are not harmless. My friend just got robbed at that corner. Blackrocklifter, crack causes several social problems and is illegal. That is why it is being bloged about on this sight.

1. On this site, "crackheads" typically means any poor or shabby looking person. It often bears little relation to any actual drug use. The best example of this is gaustad's claim that 90% of people walking by on Main Street are "crackheads."

2. That said, actual crack addiction is a problem for all sorts of reasons far more important than their impact on Elmwood. And the solution is to legalize, regulate and tax the drug.

BuffaloRitz- How does your friend know for certain it was a "crackhead", few thieves idenitfy themselves. Many of the street people are mentally ill and/or abuse alcohol and drugs but to lump them all together is simplistic. Cocaine addiction is only visible among the poor, the "severe social problems" are more a result of the cost of the drug than the drug itself.

al-alo: The Joseph Ellicott line is hilarious.

Great news if it comes to fruition. The corner is the most important parcel on a block and this building does everything it needs to do. Great job Frizlen.

blackrocklifer- You are right the person that robbed her didn't state they were a "crackhead". I think what is being said is people don't feel safe at that cornor. I am sure that you can contact EV or the Buffalo Police and they will tell you they have more crime and complaints on that cornor then most of elmwood (I am not coparing it the entire Buffalo area). You are also right in stateing that it is a social economic issue. I am quoting a previous post about "crackheads". That being said, to me it anyone that smokes crack or a drug like that.

Who cares what kind of substance the bums at Sunoco, Elmwood, Main st are using

Be it crack, heroin, cocaine, meth - they are bothersome and ruin the fuc-ing neighborhood.

So may people on this site too concerned over weather they are smoking crack or something else, who cares? They are on hard drugs and it is uncomfortable to live around them....most of them are black too (Colin) I counted the other night!

If this is the crime-infested and panhandling hub of Elmwood some say it is, then this development is exactly what it needs (save for a police substation). The new renters in the building aren't going to put up with it, nor will retail tenants taking space on the ground floor.

this would be awesome.

platt4- you are right- panhandlers follow the path of least resistance. This corner needs a density of business and residents to take ownership.

gaustad --

Stopping in the midst of the "warzone" on Elmwood between Utica and North? Interacting (well, almost) with black people? I'm amazed at your bravery! And at your ability to diagnose a person's addictions on sight.

Colin- I frequent that area on a regular basis, maybe between the two of us we can watch gaustads back ( in case the black crackheads attack)

this corner is not very good because there is a bus stop right there... and many people who ride the bus are not targeted upscale customers. just the messenger

kind of new to this site and didnt knwo where to write this but i pass it every day and was wondoring what ever happend to the Deli or whatever it was supposed to be that was supposed to open right next to Papaya on The Chip Strip?

Ok - the facts are the facts. There are unsavory and very aggressive people constantly on this stretch of Elmwood. The fact also is that more development like this will make them more scarce. I live right here and am sick of being uncomfortable when some freak comes up to me drooling and throwing his hands up the air. Do I feel bad for them? Yes I do.

Maybe I'm just a wuss but I hate having to say no to people possibly attacking me because they are desperate. It would be nice to have more sections of the city with a scarcity of walking zombies. Sorry but that is how most people feel.