E-Z Pass Will Be Used to Catch Speeders in WNY?

What’s an urban legend? You hear about the wealthy bachelor who fell asleep in his hot bubbling hot tub after his Friday night party guests left and the cleaning maid found only bones and soup left of him a couple days later. Then there’s the one about the girl whose tanning booth had a microwave short circuit and fried her insides. They're all pretty interesting.
Well, some of these tales are believable and some are unbelievable. About a month ago you may have started receiving warning emails from friends suggesting that NY State intends to use the EZ Pass system to catch speeders. This urban legend has been making speedy headway on the web. It’s a pretty credible and yet incredible story, too, that reads as follows:
“New York State started a pilot program upstate north of Albany on the Northway to catch speeders using the Easy Pass system. Recording devices were installed at intervals along the highway. Once an Easy Pass equipped vehicle passes, the device registers the account number and the time. Same is again registered at the next "check-point". Based upon the distance between the register points and the posted speed limit, the state is sending speeding tickets in the mail to the guilty persons.
Because every driver does not have Easy Pass, the State is "perplexed" as what to do to impose the system state-wide. The solution has been found. Soon all new vehicle registration stickers will have a metal strip or chip imbedded in same. This will take the place of the Easy Pass system as stated above. When a vehicle passes the registering device, the strip will relay all the information.
This is not fictional. New York State contracted with VERIZON to install the system. The system has already been installed and the entire Bronx River Parkway in Westchester County has been "wired" for when the new system begins. Once the State makes the new program public and advises all motorists of the potential for numerous speeding tickets, it will also reveal that the system has already been installed.
Another reason that will be given for the new system is to enable the authorities to track stolen vehicles, to trace kidnap victims, to monitor and trace suspected criminals and terrorists, etc.
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THat's pretty scary, if you think about it. Now there’s just one thing about this story that should be emphasized: it is a total falsehood—-merely an urban legend. A simple check on google to About.com or the better known Snopes clears up the story well.
Here’s About.com’s answer to the story: “False. The New York Thruway Authority says the state has no plans to use the E-Z Pass system to calculate how fast drivers are going or issue speeding tickets, according to a story published November 5, 2007 in the Post-Standard of Syracuse.
Excerpts from a joint statement by the Thruway Authority and New York State Police appeared on the Politics Now blog on the Buffalo News Website:
"While the (Thruway) Authority accepts E-Z Pass as an electronic form of payment for tolls along the Thruway, current law in New York does not permit the enforcement of Vehicle and Traffic Law speed violations through the use of E-Z Pass. The Authority and State Police Troop T do not use E-Z Pass to enforce the Vehicle and Traffic Law along the Thruway," a statement by the agencies states.
"Similarly, officials at DOT and State Police do not use E-Z Pass to enforce the Vehicle and Traffic Law in New York State, on New York State roads, highways or interstates," a release from the agencies, which was provided by an industry lobbyist, added.
The misinformation may have been inspired by news of the October 9, 2007 launch in Nassau and Suffolk counties of an actual pilot program using point-to-point monitoring of E-Z Pass-equipped vehicles on the Northern Parkway to collect data on traffic flow and calculate average travel times for display along the route.
While this did involve installing what one might call "recording devices" (RFID interrogators) at intervals on the parkway to track individual vehicles, DOT officials say all data is encrypted to protect the privacy of owners/drivers. “
Phew! Now we can all rest at the wheel! So what’s your favorite Buffalo urban legend story?

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chiknlil
I believe that the emails are being started by the Teamsters Union (72) who represent the interests of the NYS Thruway toll collectors. The EZ Pass system and elimination of toll barriers reduces the number of civil servants required to staff the toll booths. They can maintain or increase their constituency by creating doubt and fear about the EZ Pass system.
I recently heard that the state did not reduce the number of toll collectors in the area after they closed the Black Rock and Ogden Street toll barriers. They have also increased the number of staff despite the introduction and widespread adoption of the EZ Pass program. Maybe this is one of the reasons that the State Thruway Authority is afraid to open their books for review.
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DumpsterKid
they dont really need e-zpass to do this anyway, at least on the 90. I was told 3 years ago the brilliant toll collectors with their thousands of dollars in overtime were gonna hand out speeding tickets based on the toll slips they give out on the 90 (the time you received the slip is on it) and they would figure out your average speed when you get off, this never happened.
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zenfur
Does anyone know the story behind that photo? Its pretty hilarious.
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needles
I've got the solution to our traffic problems that emphasizes less on speeding and more on organization of traffic. It is the basis on which the Autobahn and various other roadways in Europe can either have no speed limit, or no enforced speed limit. I've driven the right way in Europe, and I'll never understand why American driving is the way it is. We should be enforcing the cause, not the effect. For example: Cause- driving slow in the left lane Effect- tailgating. Who gets the ticket? The tailgater every time. Not in Europe. I can cruise merrily on the highway in my Fiat while Porsches traveling at 2x my speed share the road harmoniously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passing_lane
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flyguy
As we steadily watch our freedoms disappear and big brother more and more a part of our life all I can do is sit here and be fairly pessimistic about the state of this nation. Not only to catch speeders I heard they are using it in court against people as well in divorces cases where cheating is the culprit. Not that any of these things are anything to be proud of but it makes me sick to know the government has crept into our lives as much as they have and i'm sure they're licking their chops just waiting to get the added revenues. What other sorts of aspects opf our lives will be studied? I can only hope this idea ends up overwhelming the system and bogging the braniacs down in paperwork for years. This is fast becoming a nation of paranoia and lack of personal freedom.
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urbanesque
This accident happened during morning "rush hour" on October 4, 2005. Here is a brief write-up that accompanied the photo: (From WLTX in Columbia, SC):
Two compact cars become even more compact when they get wedged between a toll booth in Buffalo, New York.
The accident during morning rush hour.
New York State police say one driver lost control, hit a sign and then another car. The force of the crash pushed both vehicles into the toll booth lane. Both cars had to be pulled out by tow trucks because they were wedged in so tightly.
The toll booth was slightly damaged. The good news is no one was hurt.
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Frankster
Good mythbusting, Bill. Whenever I get scaremail, which is any message warning of a health, crime, legislative, or other threat without links to substantiating sources, I check Snopes, which invariably proves them bogus. The well-meaning relatives have caught on and check it themselvse before hitting Forward.
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hamp
I'm sorry. But whjat was the pojint of this post??
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Hoss
While this is an 'urban legend', at this point in time, it's sadly, not too far fetched. NYS DOT is already, unknown to most, using EZ Pass patrons for studies in traffic flow and such. They also have more monitors set up besides the tolls. Among other things, the sensors are used to trigger "delay ahead" signs in many locales. In sevaral recent court proceedings, EZ Pass records have negated alibi's, as well as been used as evidence to help place an individual at the scene of a crime. This is some scary shit if you ask me.
"The makers of our Constitution … conferred, as against the government, the right to be let alone — the most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by civilized men. To protect, that right, every unjustifiable intrusion by the government upon the privacy of the individual, whatever the means employed, must be deemed a violation of the Fourth Amendment."
-US Supreme Court Justice, Lewis D. Brandeis in Olmstead et al. v. United States
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Auburner
I hope they catch the "Speedos" too!
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Auburner
Boy, I really, really hate the Patriots! I think more than the Dolphins... Brady is a cocky jerk too! Sorry, had to vent!
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bjfan82
If this was implemented it would just be another instance of New York State trying to nickel & dime and rape its own citizens. I hope the (federal) Supreme Court shows some balls and declares this practice unconstitutional at some point.
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RisingDamp666
Achtung, Needles! The E.U., in an effort to avert the Global Warming Crisis, is about to impose mandatory speed limits throughout europe, including and especially on your beloved Autobahn. It's believed the new limit will be 85kph...und zat vill be zat. Of course, the next time you and your ilk slip past airport security at Rhein Main Flughafen, head straight south to the fabled Nurburgring for some wild, anything goes racing.And don't forget to bring your dental records to assist in a later positive identification of your remains.
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Buffalopundit
@RisingDamp666 - the EU speed limit proposal is 120 km/h, which is about 75 MPH.
@Needles - Germany is the only country in Europe that had an unlimited speed limit on its Autobahnen. Most other countries have limits between 120 and 130 km/hr on limited-access roads. The difference is that the process in the US to obtain a license is comparatively painless. In Germany, it can be a months-long process included written and driving tests, all amounting to over €500, including passing a first-aid test. They take it all very seriously and the rules of the road are strictly enforced.
Also - in NY you can't get a speeding ticket unless the officer issuing the ticket actually witnessed you committing the violation. That means the ticket that a Sheriff gave me in Greece, NY based on another Sheriff's observation was no good. Same goes for EZ-Pass. They'd need to pass a law to let that happen.
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dougk
right you are bp! it's the witnssing officer. not the radar equipment or someone else observing a violation, who wrties the summons...
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needles
@RisingDamp666- That's a shame! I gotta get there again soon I guess huh??? i'm a HUGE fan of the 'ring!!! My father has a couple Porsches, and is an instructor at the Glen.
@Pundit- You're right, that's why I said "enforced" speed limit! My favorite region in the EU specifically is southern Italy, where traffic law is VERY loosely enforced, the driver is responsible for his/her actions.
I think there must be some happy medium somewhere between the US and Germany though, where we actually educate drivers before letting them loose in a 3,500lb 65mph murder machine.
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MJWorthington
And the state does not force you to carry the EZPass. Don't like the possibilities? Don't get one. Just like a credit card purchase somewhere could blow an alibi, so could this "purchase."
Be smarter about your "crimes" ;)
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zimmermann
Okay...here's my Not So EZ Pass & Speeding story...
About a year ago I was driving back from a Boston visit and got stopped outside Syracuse when going over 80 mph.
I tried to explain to the young officer how safer it was to keep in the fast flow of traffic, and he quickly, rudely said to explain that to the judge.
Then, emailing the DA, prior to my court date, I explained the whole fricasee of Catch 22 elements on the thruway-- having to keep peace and safety, and endure a traffic flow over 80 mph on any given sunny day-- and I explained how truly rude the officer was.
Then I asked if an inquiry should be raised at the State level to teach all of us safe drivers how to deal with a constant flow of speeders. I offered to participate in depth, and offered to cite his DA- local court to uphold the expense of such a debate, and offered my contacts at NY State central Associated Press to announce the inquiry's vast and concernable intentions. I implored him to help us all get involved!
It wasn't the muscle of my proposed expose that got him-- the DA's attention-- but the actual argument-- we spoke by phone-- he agreed it's an interminable contortion of what to do when competing with a little enforced speed limit against a ritual of speeders and few cars to catch them all.
The ticket was dropped to a parking ticket. Still, it should have been just dropped. And no inquisition. And no problem really solved. Wits and subtle threats won one ticket that day-- but nothing was really won on the subject that affects us when we travel the State thruway.
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RisingDamp666
You should have just told the cop that when approaching Syracuse, everybody presses the gas pedal harder. The matter would have been dropped then and there.
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buffaloed
I was talking with my dad (former assistant DA) about this topic. He said that EZ pass could in reality be used to issue speeding tickets but any good lawyer would argue that EZpass only proves that the vehicle got from point A-B in a certain amount of time, and that the driver could have had nothing to do with it Nobody observed the driver speeding.
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