Notice that none of the bricks fell down where ivy was growing?

Everybody keeps telling me that ivy destroys masonry. I don't buy it. I like ivy.

Welcome back CHRIS69.

Does a news scoop matter, or rather that a great building is likely saved?

Bravo!

Thanks Sam.

1. You're crazy.

2. Freedom of speech means that the government can't prohibit you from speaking. It has nothing to do with people calling you out on your craziness.

3. It's very scummy to implicitly threaten someone on the basis of their religion or nationality -- "lest they be victims of expulsion by yet another community."

4. It's scummier still to implicitly regret that someone's family wasn't killed in the Holocaust -- "because the nazis missed the freudenheims buffalo has had to suffer"

5. Jews as "parasites" is a classic motif of antisemitism. You're posts are creepy and unwelcome.

Damn, more bad news for the tear it all down crowd

Damn, more bad news for the tear it all down crowd

What does it say about BRO that these bizarre antisemitic rantings haven't been taken down?

What does it say about BRO readers that they have multiple 3-and-4-star ratings?

Paul, Bisonherd's comments are vile, but they are not representative of Buffalo--far from it. I have heard the same stupidity when I lived in NYC and Toronto. After 20 years in Buffalo, I can't say that it is any more anti-semitic, homophobic or intolerant than the average American city. There are people hurling sweeping and crude distortions everywhere in America; I just wish BRO didn't let this site be a forum for people like Bisonherd.

its not anti-semetic to hold people to a higher standard of behavior

if people can be made to feel guilt and shame because of the treatment of jews in the holocaust and anti-semetism which americans had nothing to do with then its fair to say that people should be aware of the anti-semetism they create when they tell the community to quote "f-them" and when they act as greedy parasites sucking money from the community and the taxpayers through shamefull business practices.

secondly there is absolutely nothing anti-semetic to say that the freudenheims victims of nazi germany should be more sensative to the perceptions of the community lest they be victims of expulsion by yet another community.

third, what are you dixiechick and PaulBuffalo a communist/socialist. Perhaps you would like the soviet union better where they labelled any forbidden expression as a psychological illness and sentenced them to siberia, or forced psych inmates or forced drug therapy BUT IN THIS COUNTRY WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED FREE SPEECH....AND IF YOU DONT LIKE FREE SPEECH THEN THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER COUNTRIES YOU CAN EMIGRATE.

Hey Bisonherd, you imbecile. Ever heard of Benderson, the developer. He's Jewish. While you might not like the suburbs, he has done more to develop the Buffalo area than a million lazy fat uneducated slobs like yourself. Another thing, look at the cities with the most Jews in them. New York, LA, Boston, etc. They always do well economically. You know why? Because Jews are good for business. The richest person in Texas's history is not some oilman, it's Michael Dell, who founded Dell computers. And guess what, retard? He's a RICH JEWWWW!!!! He has billions of Jew-dollars!!!! But no one in the state wishes he had taken his Jesus-killing self back to Jew York City, because everyone with a half a brain (so this doesn't include you) realizes the economic impact on the state was positive.

So what, there's some 100 year old German Jew who owns real estate in Buffalo he doesn't care about. Has it occurred to you, moron, that he's just part of a general problem there, which is that lots of long-term residents of this place have just given up on the city? Including rich ones who own property. Rather than sit around getting fat, eating your pile of wings, rooting for the Bills who will eventually leave the city like everyone else, why don't you haul your bloated ass off the couch and actually do something to improve your city and not blame anyone who isn't exactly like yourself.

the more I think of it the more I think this building plays a more crucial picture in the fabric of the westside. This multi-story building rehabbed into apartments serves as a critical piece of evidence for rehabbing other multi-story buildings from Allentown to the south, to Niagara Street & D'Youville to the west and to Buffalo State to the north (it even helps the grant, richmond and connecticut street corridors)

losing it would have continued to tear the westside apart with empty lots and the associated declining property values....

the community standing up for this building sends a message to buffalos big mouth (F-them) slumlords that the community is now willing to fight these parasites and expell them.

my piece of vitrole towards the freudenheims is more directly cynical for in a world where the freudenheims were once the largest lumber yard operators in pre-war germany and fled the nazi's....one would think that they above all others would hold the value of the community fabric dear lest they be expelled once again. Yet no such lesson was learned and arguably because [deleted] buffalo has had to suffer their parasitism upon our historical community landmarks. In an art gallery when asked about the livery stable....the freudenheims simply responded "F-them" Does the community owe any less antipathy towards them...to the freudenheims we say "f-u"....furthermore...we leave a parting message to the freudenheims and their fellow parasitic property owners...."we are watching you"

There is no such thing as hate speech. There is only speech that can incite danger such as yelling fire in a theater. Thats it PaulBuffalo.

If you think there is such a thing as hate speech then your some sort of communist. Well Pim Fortyn in the Netherlands paid for free speech with his life because his crticism of Islamic immigration and assimilation and patriotism to dutch values resulted in his death

Same for the dutch cartoon on islam

Even Canada has abandoned free speech. McClains, canadian magazine, is in court because its objective articles were branded as hate speech because they dared to investigate the wrong subject.

its scum bags like you that want to create a special class of speech that exempts certain people and certain topics....if you cant hack it PaulBuffalo then find a country that buys into your hate speech communist censorship....last time I checked...jews were just like any other group in this nation. Turn on the TV or go into the courtroom 90% of the bigmouths on TV and justice are jewish...its kinda hypocritical to say that jews have a right to say anything about everything but no one else can.

If you want to be a special class of citizen above everyone else then try Israel, then you can still live off the US taxpayer and use Israeli apartheid to place yourself in a special rights status above the rights of every non-jew and neighborhing country.

The Freudenheims stated quite clearly in many locations when asked about the livery stable and their response was "F-them". They deserve the bile as human beings and for their morality and for their patriotism and for their civic responsibility to their community....and if your saying that their judaism exempts them from criticism...then your demented. Lets just face facts....greed and neglect arent tenants of judaism...but I know an awful lot of jews that I would rather sell than put a penny into their home and one only has to look at law, politics, business...when something goes wrong with the money...the last name is usually jewish.

Oh and Colin...the Freudenheims have been rebuked by the community. They may not have been run out on a rail but they most certainly are being threatened by the community and the municipality via the lawsuits and the citations and the confiscation of their property. Their person wasnt threatened but their business and their reputation is now widespread condemnation and vitriole. They will never undertake another property transaction without this precedent haunting them. Its not just them but the precendent has been set for all slumlords putting their neglect into the taxpayers liability while they reaped the end profit. THE COMMUNITY HAS REBUKED THE FREUDENHEIMS AND IF YOUR THINKING THAT THE REST OF BUFFALO ISNT LOOKING AT THAT LAST NAME AND MUTTERING TO THEMSELVES ... YUP ... ANOTHER GREEDY JEW.

AND PLEASE DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT BULL LIKE HATE OR DIVERSITY OR WHATEVER...JEWS ARE THE LEAST DIVERSE...MOST EXCLUSIVE...MOST CONFORMIST GROUP AROUND...AND OPEN AN EAR TO LISTEN WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ABOUT GENTILES....MANY ARE SO SUPERIOR THAT THEY CAN JUSTIFY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING AS LONG AS THEIR NOT A FELLOW JEW...ITS WORSE THAN IF YOUR NOT A JEW THEN YOUR A SEPARATE RACE...SOME TREAT NON-JEWS AS A LOWER SPECIES.

we're keeping his identity under wraps? go to the Buffalo News website and the name is right there. You're acting like you have an inside tip that no one else knows about. Dont tell anybody but his name is Sam Savarino.

DUHHH, HELLO... ANYBODY HOME IN THERE???? knocking on the door of BR

but thats really the point that you just dont seem to get

Freudenheim is a jew and he justifies bilking the taxpaying public because the taxpaying public is less than 1% jewish

Freudenheim is a jew and he justifies his dilapidated properties in allentown and the westside because its a non-jewish neighborhood.

Do you think Freudenheim would be treating buildings like this in Amherst where the majority of Buffalo metro jews live?Not on your life.

Do you think if the jewish community asked him about a building in their community that he would look contemptuous and say f-them. Not on your life.

So....admit it..the man you are defending is blatantly contemptuous and immoral and justifies it because he is a jew and those affected by his business practices are not!

^^^ Ha! Cheers!

Saying Jews are good for business is not saying others are bad for business. Get a life. And no, I am willing to post any thought that comes across my mind. Including this one.

Its wonderful

Thanks Sam, your risk will be repaid in $ as well as the goodwill of the entire community.

1. You're crazy.

2. Half of those quotes are unattributed.

3. You're engaged in the oldest trick in the racist book -- listing the crimes of individuals and then attributing them to some supposed fault of their race or religion. Using the same technique on white people -- or Christians -- would find that they're the most pathological group of people in history. But it's not a legitimate thing to do, in either case.

4. Claiming that the Livery collapsing had anything to do with Judaism takes the kind of creative genius possessed by only the craziest and most despicable anti-semites. Congratulations!

5. Your obsession with communism is quaint.

6. Why is this guy still posting here?!

Its wonderful

JEWS ARE NOT A SPECIAL CLASS OF CITIZEN ABOVE CRITICISM

NOR IS ANY OTHER ETHNIC, RACE, GENDER, RELIGIOUS GROUP, POLITICAL AFFILIATION OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

Remember something....nyc and dc were targeted because of its high concentration of jews and their dicates of US foreign policy, remember we are in afghanistan and iraq because of the lobbying of american jews, our dollar has collapsed 50% because of the bubble a jew called alan greenspan created over the last 50 years, our manufacturing has been exported because of a globalist jew named milton freidman, lets also not forget that our politicians are saying we dont have enough money for veterans and seniors at the same time we are giving billions in foreign aid to Israel and even now american jews and israel are demanding we invade iran.

Sounds like there is more at work than patriotism to the United States....more like dual patriotism or no patriotism at all to this country and 100% patriotism to Israel BUT SSHHH!!! jews are a special class of citizen and we dont dare raise a question about their political, economic or business actions....because that would be anti-semetic.

BULL! Anti-semetism is about religion! If your a parasite in the community then thats exactly what you are...and you dont deserve a free ride ... free from criticism because your a jew....that kind of two faced double standard feeds anti-semetism....and creates nazis and holocausts.

YAY SAVARINO! Thank you for being community-conscious!

Sam's done a good job with most of his properties. It's exciting to have this or for that fact any property in his hands. For a "smal, local" developer....he does an A+ job.

genghis, ever hear of writing an angry response down & not sending it? Think about it next time as your rant comes across as very whiny and equally absurd, so African-Amer's, Irish, Italians, Germans, etc are not good for business?. Also, you have the audacity to say anything complimentary of Benderson? Holy cow that slimeball has done more irreparable harm to the suburban landscape than any developer I know of.

it has to be CHRIS69... his CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS BROKEN AGAIN!

Colin, thats really the bite isnt it. There is a difference between acting as a religion and acting as a separate and distinct race or ethnicity with the politics therewith

It would have been so easy to simply rebuke Freudenheim as a person and as a business but you had to tap into the judaism the race, judaism the politics, judaism the f-them business practices...

no it doesnt have anything to do with judaism the religion....but judaism the politics of race, the values of separatism from the non-jewish community, the contempt f-them for those poor ignorant non-jews on the westside..that gets a free pass

Isnt that convenient for you...to champion and defend even the mass murderers, the political activists, the pornographers, the illegal sex slave traders, the counter-culture non-conformists, the anti-patriots unless of course their fighting for Israel, the budget deficits except of course if its foreign aid for israel...if their jewish they must be defended...

well sorry, Freudenheim is the scum of the city and he deserves to be rebuked not protected. Do you think one italian stands of for Paladino when he tears something down....no italian defends Paladino with the insect like conformity that jews defend Freudenheim.

this is great news! thank you mr. savarino! now let's hope that it doesn't take this much hoopla going forward to get these historic buildings saved.

Colin, thats really the bite isnt it. There is a difference between acting as a religion and acting as a separate and distinct race or ethnicity with the politics therewith

It would have been so easy to simply rebuke Freudenheim as a person and as a business but you had to tap into the judaism the race, judaism the politics, judaism the f-them business practices...

no it doesnt have anything to do with judaism the religion....but judaism the politics of race, the values of separatism from the non-jewish community, the contempt f-them for those poor ignorant non-jews on the westside..that gets a free pass

Isnt that convenient for you...to champion and defend even the mass murderers, the political activists, the pornographers, the illegal sex slave traders, the counter-culture non-conformists, the anti-patriots unless of course their fighting for Israel, the budget deficits except of course if its foreign aid for israel...if their jewish they must be defended...

well sorry, Freudenheim is the scum of the city and he deserves to be rebuked not protected. Do you think one italian stands of for Paladino when he tears something down....no italian defends Paladino with the insect like conformity that jews defend Freudenheim.

1. It wasn't me who tried to make the man's religion a factor here. That was you.

2. Ummm, I haven't defended any mass murderers. I said that your attempt to link one person's action to an entire category of people was bogus.

3. I don't understand why political activists or non-conformists need defending. But if they did, I would.

4. I imagine lots of Italians (and others) support Paladino when he tears something down. He has plenty of friends.

5. You're getting crazier all the time -- I look forward to seeing how crazy you get!

I could not agree more with PaulBuffalo's comment that "Hate is not the same as a lack of political correctness."

Paul you must either be a San Francisco liberal or a communist because Buffalo is no different than anyplace else in this nation. The biggest difference is that corporations and the media have been forced into political correctness...and thus so has all of culture thats why RAP music is so particular vulgar. Its the only outlet.

The truth is and you better get used to it that there is no such thing has hate, that people descriminate and stereotype everyday from appearance to speech to profession to income. Why you cant even go on a date or meet someone without their first question getting to know you being resume questions....not jokes...not casual questions...but real profile questions.

You think with the big fortune 500 companies in Rochester, that Rochester is different. Rochester just wallpapers it over for corporate reasons. You want to know what makes Buffalo special. Its that people in Buffalo are REAL! People in Buffalo are more midwestern straight forward direct speak their mind kinda people and see those people are the enemies of you politically correct liberal hate speechers because you cant control their speech and you cant control their thoughts.

You know why Tim Russert praised Buffalo so much. He said it was one of the few places in the nation where he could honestly take the pulse of the nation. Where he could tap into what people were feeling and thinking. Why is that? Because people in Buffalo are for the most part mentally and emotionally honest....we speak out minds like midwesterners...which is why some people call Buffalo the first city of the midwest or the first rust belt city.

Give me intellectual and emotional honesty anyday...and I will give you the kumba bankupt San Fran anyday filled with their liberal thought police, hate speech, political correctness and special classes of people otherwise referred to as untouchables.

My neighbors and my family died in Iraq and Afghanistan so I intellectually and emotionally know just who put our nation there and why. I know the real reason they died and maybe before someone else dies you could use alittle intellectual honesty too! Cause its not the jews and the gays and the feminists and all the other protected classes that are fighting and dying....its by and large white, african and hispanic men. The same men that arent going to school anymore, arent marrying anymore, arent being fathers anymore, arent going to college anymore and arent getting those corporate jobs that supported a family anymore....but see thats the problem with hate speech....its not hate speech when its against a non-protected class of people.

Thats why liberalism really is a mental disorder.

1. How do you know how Freudenheim justifies things to himself? Are you psychic?

2. I haven't done a survey or anything, but I'd bet that there are some Jewish people in the neighborhood around the Livery. How would that fit into your paranoid fantasy?

3. I'm not defending Freudenheim. In fact, I played a small role in the campaign to save the building.

4. You're crazy.

5. This guy has been citing from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion for more than 24 hours now. How long before the people who own and are responsible for this site do something?

"What it says about BRO is that they believe in freedom of speech and also that the readers will 'police' if you will pardon that expression, the commentary on their own."

The problem with this is that BRO often polices itself. It's not uncommon to see text deleted from a post for simple profanity. In the past, a whole string of posts were heavily edited because they contained what BRO considered unsubstantiated rumors about a developer. Yet a string of antisemitic (and red-baiting?!) tirades that would make Henry Ford proud is allowed to stand unedited.

Paul, Well, that was not my experience in NYC: been to Queens lately? There are "Riversides" in every city. But you should be encouraged; Buffalo really is a diverse and accomodating city.

I wonder which developer?

genghis, ever hear of writing an angry response down & not sending it? Think about it next time as your rant comes across as very whiny and equally absurd, so African-Amer's, Irish, Italians, Germans, etc are not good for business?. Also, you have the audacity to say anything complimentary of Benderson? Holy cow that slimeball has done more irreparable harm to the suburban landscape than any developer I know of.

Yeah, keep it up genghis, yours is just another form of intolerance and stupidity. You're entertaining in a warped sort of way. Seriously though go to one of the dozens of dollar stores in any Benderson strip plaza and buy a clue.

Really reflip....here is a few quotes for you to digest:

"CBS News national security correspondent David Martin. The trip has been scheduled for some time but U.S. officials say it comes just as the Israelis are mounting a full court press to get the Bush administration to strike Iran's nuclear complex. CBS consultant Michael Oren says Israel doesn't want to wait for a new administration ... Israel's message is simple: If you don't, we will."

"US Politicians Are Obliged to Agree With Israel, Says Jimmy Carter"

"AIPAC is the most powerful of the dozen or so major organizations and think-tanks that comprise the "Israel lobby" in the United States. This influential lobby dictates U.S. Middle East foreign policy."

"The Wiesenthal Center has a long record of reckless propaganda for war. Long before the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003, it had been pressing for an American attack against the Middle East nation, backing its effort with alarmist “Big Lie” claims about the supposed danger posed by the Baghdad regime."

"Israeli billionaire and media mogul Haim Saban is at the top of the list of donors to political campaigns in the US. Fox Network revealed over the weekend that Saban has donated approximately US $13 million to various candidates."

"No other Lobby has the kind of financial power and organizational reach as the Jewish Lobby in eroding our domestic political freedoms or our war-making powers. For those reasons alone, it stands to reason, that we Americans have a necessity to put our fight against Israel and its Lobby at the very top of our political agenda."

"Patrick J. Buchanan

Israel's war, says Bibi [former Israel prime minister "Bibi" Netanyahu] must be sold as America's war. We are thus forewarned. A propaganda campaign, using Israeli agents and their neocon auxiliaries and sympathizers, who stampeded us into war in Iraq, is being prepared to stampede us into war on Iran."

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish… An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name Genrikh Yagoda, the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."

Truth is that its so easy to ask for sympathy for the holocaust, to use anti-semetism to create a separate class of people protected by political correctness and deflected by anti-semetism without ever looking in the mirror to what jews have really done with their money and power. Its like wall paper. on the outside always play the victim but those on the inside know that what gets projected on the jews comes from their own actions....its not invented out of hate or conspiracy....it originates from the same "f-them" contempt for the community that Freudenheim exhibited at the livery stable accumulated and defended over years, decades and centuries but then isnt life so much easier to justify if the world is only allowed one voice and one victim.

I have no choice but to bring up bisonherd's name at our next week's secret meeting of the International Banking System Zionist Conspiracy.

Our Jewish infiltrators at BRO should be able to trace bisonherd's IP address.

Our organization will see to it that he will never be able to order Chinese food again.

Howard Goldman

Really reflip....here is a few quotes for you to digest:

"CBS News national security correspondent David Martin. The trip has been scheduled for some time but U.S. officials say it comes just as the Israelis are mounting a full court press to get the Bush administration to strike Iran's nuclear complex. CBS consultant Michael Oren says Israel doesn't want to wait for a new administration ... Israel's message is simple: If you don't, we will."

"US Politicians Are Obliged to Agree With Israel, Says Jimmy Carter"

"AIPAC is the most powerful of the dozen or so major organizations and think-tanks that comprise the "Israel lobby" in the United States. This influential lobby dictates U.S. Middle East foreign policy."

"The Wiesenthal Center has a long record of reckless propaganda for war. Long before the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003, it had been pressing for an American attack against the Middle East nation, backing its effort with alarmist “Big Lie” claims about the supposed danger posed by the Baghdad regime."

"Israeli billionaire and media mogul Haim Saban is at the top of the list of donors to political campaigns in the US. Fox Network revealed over the weekend that Saban has donated approximately US $13 million to various candidates."

"No other Lobby has the kind of financial power and organizational reach as the Jewish Lobby in eroding our domestic political freedoms or our war-making powers. For those reasons alone, it stands to reason, that we Americans have a necessity to put our fight against Israel and its Lobby at the very top of our political agenda."

"Patrick J. Buchanan

Israel's war, says Bibi [former Israel prime minister "Bibi" Netanyahu] must be sold as America's war. We are thus forewarned. A propaganda campaign, using Israeli agents and their neocon auxiliaries and sympathizers, who stampeded us into war in Iraq, is being prepared to stampede us into war on Iran."

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish… An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name Genrikh Yagoda, the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people. His Jewish deputies established and managed the Gulag system. Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."

Truth is that its so easy to ask for sympathy for the holocaust, to use anti-semetism to create a separate class of people protected by political correctness and deflected by anti-semetism without ever looking in the mirror to what jews have really done with their money and power. Its like wall paper. on the outside always play the victim but those on the inside know that what gets projected on the jews comes from their own actions....its not invented out of hate or conspiracy....it originates from the same "f-them" contempt for the community that Freudenheim exhibited at the livery stable accumulated and defended over years, decades and centuries but then isnt life so much easier to justify if the world is only allowed one voice and one victim.

How did we go from saving a great building to anti-semitism? This is a great step foward for the area just to the west of richmond ave! score for buffalo