People weren't working as hard at saving the livery years ago because it wasn't an emergency situation, and because they had the apparently crazy idea that preserving it was the owner's responsibilty, and that inspecting it was the city's responsibility.

But what will ATAK and HERT do without these billboards- i mean buildings- hanging over the 33???

Every day that these buildings remain standing is a day too long. It's unfortunate that this is one of the first prominant things someone sees if they drive from the airport into downtown. Great first impression!

Good bye and good riddance...

These buildings were trashed within 10 years of being built, they were basically condemned just like other housing complexes throughout the country. The structure is sound, the infrastructure was intact, but the building was destroyed from the inside out by residents. This is no different than the projects in Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston, etc, they were just a horrible, crime infested, deplorable place that no one should have had to live in.

I hope that this project doesn't pull too many people from the Lutheran homes, Grace Manor, Bristol Home, and other facilities in the area, there are only so many private pay seniors willing to stay in the city and pulling them from other homes may result in the final demise of those buildings as well. I know that the Lutheran Home on Hager street has struggled for years to increase the number of private pay residents, and if the ratio changes too much, it may result in the closure of that facility. I imagine the same is true for the Bristol Home and Grace Manor. Buffalo has already lost other facilities for similar reasons.

sbrof, I guess the difference is that these things are actually getting done. How many ideas have sat for years as only renderings?

These buildings cannot come down soon enough....

Anyone want to lend a sledgehammer?

ATAK and HERT lose another tag - SOB's I cannot wait until these two idiots get caught

Comparing these structures to the livery just shows how little people understand about history, architecture and preservation.

brown has been mayor for what 2 years? do you idiots realize how long it takes to come up with a plan get the land and implement that plan? masiello doesn't deserve much credit for anything.. and i never even heard of that horse stable before a few days ago, why weren't people working harder then to preserve it?

So what's the differnce between this eye sore and the livery stable? 75 years and yuppies?

More physical change in the City of Buffalo has taken place on Byron Brown's watch that in the 20 years before him. Yes he is a good PR man. He is also an intelligent man and a man genuinely working to make Buffalo a great city. As far as the livery stables go...I couldn't care less. I am all for profitable condo towers.

Sally. I'm glad to provide laughs for you. My point is work is actually getting done in his term. He isn't standing in the way of projects either new or in progress. Yes, many projects were proposed before his term but he is allowing the city to help these projects along as well as welcoming/encouraging continued development.

I am fine with the tower's demolition. They are nothing more than symbols of a failed ideal of social housing and cattling the poor into dense areas.

Does anyone know how contingent the plans of the retirement community are on the proximity of ECMC? Especially considering the ongoing plan to close it an merge it into the medical campus.

Haha ok soldier, you can ride your unicorn pony into your stables that are falling apart while I park my car into a new parking ramp below my nice new condo on the water you hippie freak!Buffalo has been playing the "Buffalo's brilliant architecture is one of its greatest assets" for as long as its been around and look where its gotten it...NOWHERE BESIDES A DEPRESSED CITY!!!!

As for Mayor Brown... it must kill you everyday that he doesnt give a care about what you tiedie cornrolled freaks think at all. He will be looked at as one of the best mayors in this city becase he changed it by making it a new up2date city!

Why redevelop this plot of land? Knock these down and leave the plot empty.

Why not create the nursing home and independent living facilities closer to downtown? If not right on Main St at least west of Jefferson. Create an Urban design that will add to orther projects (be it Artspace, the Medical Corridor, Sycamore Village) etc to get some type of critical mass started somewhere. Let them build off each other and create other service buisnesses etc due to the greater number of people nearby.

Yes we will have some new jobs added here, maybe taking some of them from elsewhere. But all we are getting is a parking lot impregnated suburban drive-in/drive-out island that will do nothing to spur anything else near it. Not the best return on millions of investment. IT would be wonderful to see some type of overall plans being used to stear the development we do get.

Wow so far it looks like you hippies dont have a problem about this scumhole being knocked down! Is it because you finally realized your voice doesnt matter anymore with a great mayor like Brown in office or did you guys run out of juice from protesting the livery building that made no difference as if you were just standing out there singing kumbaya and smoking your wacky stuff. Well better luck next time, and if you guys want I can send you great pics of the Livery DEMOLISHED TO THE GROUND if you want when its done. Just leave your emails and ill get them to you.

Buffaloboy-Again I ask, Do you laugh when old people fall down?

This is interesting!!! Isn't this the same John Giordino who sits on Buffalo's very own control board? I'm certain there's no conflict of interest here...or? Love to know...

Anyone want to venture a guess?

I agree with sally, just about every single project on that has been done during Brown's admin was on the table and in the works because of the visioning that was done during the previous admin (not by the mayor) but at lease the mayor listened to and supported the right people. Brown has done nothing but ride the growth to support pay increases for just about every major city union and install a Big Brother fear in city hall and on the streets.

Look at the maps from 2002 well before brown. Notice what was already on the maps... what can Brown actually ADD to that map

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I'm guessing that this project could be done before the litigation to close or not close ECMC is resolved. At least there will be some jobs there, and this incredible hole in the neighborhood will have something positive there - even if it likely won't generate much tax revenue. I will miss the tags on the buildings though.....

It's great that the Glenny Dr. Apartments will be demolished. I have been waiting for the day that that would happen. It's actually sad that these were only occupied for 25 years, what a waste of tax payer dollars and materials that could have gone to a much better project. :-(

the two taggers aren't in town anymore? That is good If you know them, or the whereabouts - nark on the assholes

I was wondering about this project just yesterday. I'm so glad to hear its moving foward. It will be such an improvement not to mention the new health care jobs that come with it

These towers remind me so much of the towers in the HBO show The Wire...

But what will ATAK and HERT do without these billboards- i mean buildings- hanging over the 33???

Every day that these buildings remain standing is a day too long. It's unfortunate that this is one of the first prominant things someone sees if they drive from the airport into downtown. Great first impression!