Hamp,
I posted a study on transportation. Not directly tied to the PB but that was not my point. My point was, doesn't it make sense to look for this information? I am not saying do another study. But at least gain perspective from people who could give insight to this aspect. So far, the "public" has decided to be ignorant on this aspect of the project. I am curious to know what the answer is and am disappointed that not many people are curious like me.
Doesn't making an informed decision usually lead to the best decision?
In terms of the study being meaning less to the debate, there needs to be a debate first. A debate is presenting BOTH sides and discussing all angles. Something BRO and most of it's members has ZERO desire to do.
Damp,
The cost of fuel in the US, while hurting trucking firms, is NOT going to decrease the use of trucks. It is ignorant to think otherwise. Air, requires fuel as well and STILL NEED TRUCKING. Rail, while less costly to move, does not have the same distribution as truck and thus STILL NEEDS TRUCKING.
If you take a deep breath and think about it for a second, an PRODUCTIVE peace bridge ensures that distribution not only stays in the area but grows. Buffalo is at the center of several metro markets, is already connected by rail and can gain from the over burdened ports in Toronto and the East cost. For Buffalo to work, it needs to have an effective crossing and goods will cross via trucks.
EAM,
I am not RonR from the PBA. RonR stands for Ruby on Rails. I share your frustration that there is a lack of information that is presented on the economic impact of the PB as it stands today and in the future. THIS IS THE CONVERSATION I AM TRYING TO HAVE. However, most people just want to stick their head in the sand or a picket sign in the air and claim that there is NO impact. That is just pathetic.
Wizard,
Just curious as to where you are backing your claim that rail and water are the future and trucking is dead? The reason I ask is I posted a study that shows otherwise and projects to 2035. I am pretty sure they factored in rising fuel along the way.
Added to that, rail and water and air do not cover the same ground as trucks. THAT IS A FACT!
But lets play your game. Water and rail are it. Now what? Name the productive ports that are not on the East Coast that service the North East? Guess where they are? They are in Canada. Now getting those goods to the North East is another question. Getting those good out of the North East is another. Buffalo has ALWAYS been a staging area for this.
Do you know anything about container shipping. Do you know anything about the transition from container to truck. Shipments from water and rail rarely go DIRECTLY to the source. They are taken to distribution facilities where they are unloaded and then loaded to trucks. Or the other way around depending if it is an export. Either way, this means trucks are involved at some point. Thus the PB.
I hope that the shared border is what is done. I hope that it does not do anything negative to the WNY economy if done. But to simply say there is no need for trucking or that it does not matter and 90 homes are the ONLY things that matter is foolish and ignorant.
No need to comment on d-bags like Peter.
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