Colin, from a libertarian perspective, I'd hope that government would be as inconsequential in a gay person's life as it would be for a straight person.
Colin, from a libertarian perspective, I'd hope that government would be as inconsequential in a gay person's life as it would be for a straight person.
nono... i love that you refer to republicans as Nazis. really good criticism there.
You are confusing Republican with Conservative. Though they often go hand in hand they don't mean the same thing. Unfortunately many moderate republicans sacrifice their beliefs to get the religous conservative support. Moderate Democrats do it too to gain support from the far left. Its called politics.
Honestly you seem to be the one that has more prejudice than I. Any person that affiliates themselves with the GOP is now a Nazi. Thats equivalent to me saying that democrats are Stalinist pinko commies. hmm seems like a fair assessment wouldnt you agree?
Oh and please continue to think that my views are disingenuous. I REALLY care what you think.
From the New York Times;
State Court Recognizes Gay Marriages From Elsewhere By ROBERT D. McFADDEN Published: February 2, 2008
A New York appellate court ruled Friday that valid out-of-state marriages of same-sex couples must be legally recognized in New York, just as the law recognizes those of heterosexual couples solemnized elsewhere. Lawyers for both sides said the ruling applied to all public and private employers in the state.
Even though gay couples may not legally marry in New York, the appellate court in Rochester held that a gay couple’s 2004 marriage in Canada must be respected under the state’s longstanding “marriage recognition rule,” and that an employer’s denial of health benefits had discriminated against the couple on the basis of their sexual orientation.
“The Legislature may decide to prohibit the recognition of same-sex marriages solemnized abroad,” a five-judge panel of the Appellate Division of State Supreme Court ruled unanimously in rejecting a 2006 lower court decision. “Until it does so, however, such marriages are entitled to recognition in New York.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/nyregion/02samesex.html?ref=nyregion
BenF- that was hilarious - although you forgot a few others:
Simcoe:
wtf, dubai in buffalo has higher taxes % than california , real estate here is not a good profit, like why are you even on this site. Intenational currencies and Buffalo would be a vindication of my guitar, wft, you guys have nothing positive to say becuase I like California more than NYS taxes. Gay people in London, Hong Kong are superior to gay people in Buffalo, wtf, what do you propose we do to bring business here. I mean, like so what if Albany got AMD, it is no big loss for us, let shoot for the stars and bring Cisco downtown, like wtf, the dixie chicks are coming to Buffalo and Hillary Clinton brought us Art space.....I mean you guys need to read what you write before you write it, like wtf, you are actually really upsetting me. Dubai, Hong Kong London international currencies vs Cali taxes per capita in NYS as a % of real wages earned, like wft, Schumer and Clinton brought us Art Space.
This is a sad and pathetic commentary that shows just how far off base most of the Buffalo Rising readers are when it comes to politics. You can't look past your own ignorant beliefs and the baseless stereotypes of the other party to realize that both the democrats and the republicans are doing as little as possible for the rights of all Americans, including the GLBT communities. We are looking at the GLBT community as the shot in the arm that Buffalo needs for recovery, sure that might work. I personally do not believe that offering civil ceremonies for same-sex partners will do anything for the community. I am 100% for it, but I just don't see the economic impact unless we become the only place in America to offer marriages and the people who wed here stay here.
I don't believe the insurance debate is valid because most employers, even walmart, offers extended benefits for life partners. Hell, my sister has her insurance through her boyfriend's company and they have no intention of ever getting married. They have only been together for 3 years but the company considers them life partners. Most of the companies that I have worked for offer full benefits for partners, and they have changed policies for dependent children as well.
The tide has changed for the better, and I believe that the work of groups like HRC and GLAD, they will continue to change in the favor of more generous and legally equal rights for all people. This isn't a matter of which political party is more generous, it is a matter of how do we get rid of the Republican and Democrat political machines that are more worried about pleasing their lobbyist supporters than they are for doing what is good for the country. We need change that goes beyond a few token rights for GLBT Americans, and unfortunately this will probably not happen without a significant change in the political system. Just look at the Presidential nominees and you will see, at a certain level, that there is almost no difference between Obama, Clinton, McCain, or Huckabee, they are all the same puppet in different clothing. They are all capable of making the same horrendous decisions as the current administration, and with the way the economy is sliding, my concerns for the future go way beyond civil unions and partner rights. I am concerned that we will continue to reduce our country to the lowest common denominator through continually restrictive government policies aimed at reducing the rights of all Americans for the sake of 'freedom' and 'safety'. I am also concerned that we will continually direct resources away from the average American to fund the interests of the wealthiest and the poorest among us. It is unfortunate that many of us have to struggle to survive while the family on the East Side who receives all sorts of public assistance has a 62" TV and X-box 360 in their living room, paid for in part by our generous support. I know because it is my job to visit the people on assistance to ensure that they are not defrauding the government, and you know what, the government doesn't care if they are. Our government is horrible, and I will not put my faith in them to resolve something as controversial as GLBT rights. If we want to do something, then we should convince enough GLBT supporters to move to Buffalo and work to take over the local political machine. This is the one thing that just might work in our favor.
Couldn't agree more Ben. The government should stay out of people's bedrooms. If they would focus on protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority we'd be in a better place. I always loose it when I hear people say that they should be allowed to vote on gay marriage. Since when has anyone's civil rights been subject to a popular vote? I don't necessarily care one way or the other but I think that everyone should be provided equal protection under the law. If there are gay people that want to get married I think they should be provided with that option and the associated benefits. I can't even believe that we need to have this debate. As a Republican turned Libertarian I just don't buy the argument that it is the government's role to protect "traditional marriage." The government needs to ensure that all citizens are afforded the same rights and its responsibility ends there. Instead they waste our money by investigating c*m on a blue dress and steroids in baseball.
Why isn't there a push for domestic partner benefits? I think is disgusting how Officer Patty Parete and her partner have been treated by the city of Buffalo.
Officer Parete put her life on the line to protect and serve Buffalo. Her life is forever changed because of the commitment that she made to our city. I think the very *least* (and I do say least) thing we could do would be to extend domestic partner benefits to her life partner.
Its sad how Buffalo's policy regarding gay rights has been crushed by the few black baptist ministers from the East Side. Why hasn't Byron looked those Baptist Ministers in the eye and challenged them on their oppressive stands towards gays and lesbians? That would be a great question that nobody has the balls to ask our Mayor.
Nono... I think you missed my point. I'll try again. You make in your last post reasoned arguments about why legal status matters. The argument makes sense, but few heterosexuals have made it this far through the thread, because you're so quick to call those of us who choose to sleep with the opposite sex, nazis.
when big angry church ladies bark.....our fearless mayor folds like a cheap suit!
pity when you think of the number of new HIV infections in the black community directly attributable to the utter failure of church pressured abstinence only programs.
how many special rings of hell are there again, mr. dante?
attention right wing lunatic fringe, and hate filled east amherst republican hypocrites for christ....you really wanna defend marriage? out law divorce!
Downtownjunkie makes a good point. In so many neighborhoods in so many cities (Dupont Circle in DC, the West Village and Hell's Ktchen in Manhattan, the Castro in SF) it was GLBT folks that turned them around. Push the envelope a bit Buffalo!
If your not for us, your against us...wow, nono quoting George W. Wonder why it's small minded when he says it. By the way, who was talking about sex? You're right, this is all clearly beyond me, I'll return to the tranquility of my East Amherst mansion (wrong locale, proper descriptiion), letting the dark side take over BR for the 11 to 7 shift.
This is a sad and pathetic commentary that shows just how far off base most of the Buffalo Rising readers are when it comes to politics. You can't look past your own ignorant beliefs and the baseless stereotypes of the other party to realize that both the democrats and the republicans are doing as little as possible for the rights of all Americans, including the GLBT communities. We are looking at the GLBT community as the shot in the arm that Buffalo needs for recovery, sure that might work. I personally do not believe that offering civil ceremonies for same-sex partners will do anything for the community. I am 100% for it, but I just don't see the economic impact unless we become the only place in America to offer marriages and the people who wed here stay here.
rb66...odd comment on your part...does the gay community really have more disposable income than the straight community? If so, where did you get this information?
The gay community has a lot of disposable income. It would be great for the economy in Buffalo.
BfloBR... its a well known fact that the black Baptist ministers are some of the most homophobic people you could ever have the misfortune to meet. While Bryon was very cozy with the GLBT community during his run for Mayor, such instances as his support of a June gay pride parade really angered them. They, the ministers, are Byron's base and he knows that he will have a tough battle against Sam Hoyt or one of Mr. Hoyt's cronies in the next election. Bryon needs those ministers more than he needs the gays (democrazy is all about numbers).
Meanwhile, Patty Parete is left out in the cold.... embarrassing!!!!!!
"The Republican Party has not made "'banning' gay marriage a unilateral presidential campaign platform". The Republican Party does not have a platform at this time'
Now I have read complete utter BS a lot in my time, but that has GOT to be the biggest idiotic BALD FACED LIE that has ever been written, and yesyes has written many here.
The ENTIRE repuke party - and yes I will refer to it as the repuke party until the WAR CRIMINAL himself stops calling us the "democrat" party slur - has bent over backwards - especially in ALL the repuke debates - to see who can bash gay persons the most - WITHOUT EXCEPTION. And, the repuke party's platform has been STEADY in its bigotry against gay people for, what, FOUR DECADES now?
To try to claim otherwise is commical at best if it weren't so sad.
All I can wonder is what universe some of these "good germans" reside in...
sad, really sad...
Thank you Nonono for spreading the TRUTH about who is responsible for this cilmate of HATE and BIGOTRY far and wide.
The city of Buffalo should enact laws and legislation to cater to the LGBT community. Not only would it be the right thing to do but becoming known around the country as a very accepting and tolerant community for people from all backgrounds could do wonders for buffalos population drain and economy. The GLBT has shown in city after city there power to gentrify dilapidated areas of cities. Shouldnt Buffalo be courting these individuals to move into this city? By legalizing civil unions Buffalo could reap enormous benefits.
Shame on Mayor Brown for jumping off the LGBTQ community float. In my first gay pride parade when I walked next to byron brown while he was running for a state office it was all "join hands and sing kumbaya" George Arthur did the same years before showing up at the Tralf when we had a gay entertainer in town and we congregated. Krystal Peoples stood at the Lavender Door looking for votes with Ellen Kennedy and Barb Cavanaugh. I'm no bigot but...yeah but...I agree with nonono whole heatedly. I don't have disposable income because my partner and I have to pay our own health insurance. So I can't afford to attend the rally. I hope there is a wonderful turnout. Is it being advertised anywhere other than here? We indeed did go to Canada to marry. We relish the day we can have a civil union or whatever you want to call it in the state of NEW YORK. Cheers Deborah and Sue North Buffalo
cdubmoo,
i wish i could be more sympathetic to your political plight, but it seems ultimately disingenuous. there are what, 2% of elected republicans who have even 'moderate' voting records on social policy legislation? no, sorry, you are like the good Germans who 'had no idea' they were killing all those poor Jews on the outskirts of town.
what ever you are personally, your 'grim old party' is responsible for a lot of hate mongering and superstitious legislation that flies in the face of science, facts, and reason, to say nothing of the principles of humanism. abstinence only legislation is fueling the HIV Aids epidemic and is completely ineffective, that is born out by statistics and science. dont complain to me if this reality disturbs you, complain to your local republican party representatives- like the homo phobic Dale Volker, and the pedophile shielding Tom Reynolds!
marriage in this day and age should be a state legislated legal standing. those who wish the additional 'privilege' of a religious ceremony are free to pursue that in the tax exempt church of his or her choosing......hopefully not one where their priest lies in wait to molest their young and vulnerable offspring, with relative impunity.
oh no ben, im proud as punch to be a card carrying democrat in a one party town run by unions and third generation mob contractors, i question my party affiliation regularly, in the same way you should monitor your own superficial convictions.
this is tiresome, but for the last time, no where did i infer or state that republican affiliation equals nazism..... what i said is that deluding yourself that you are a republican who is pro gay rights is like saying that you were a good german who had no idea they were carting off your fellow citizens in box cars....which many historically did immediately following the war.
if you are not part of the solution, then yes, you are part of the problem, and proud party affiliation to the republican party is synonymous with supporting state sanctioned torture and the denial of the civil rights of thousands of gay and lesbian americans and their children.
i trust you will sleep well indeed, that is the benefit of having no social conscience.
I can't be there for the rally (I am in Berkeley, CA) but since you have chosen City Hall as the venue, can someone ask Mayor Brown to come out and speak? Better yet, Mayor Brown can follow San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's lead (Valentine's Day, '05) and marry those in the crowd who wish to do so. That will surely be a headline grabber round the country.
yesyesyesyes,
""Wait - was this this article about attending a rally to support the rights of gay men to receive the legal benefits of marriage? Thank you Nonono for setting us "straight" about what we should be discussing'''
Ummm, i dont know how to tell you this, but there are such things as woman homosexuals, also known as lesbians, and it is their right to marry that is also at stake here. if you ever care to shed your cowards veil of anonymity that you cling to, while attempting feebly to 'out' others, i would gladly explain the difference in person.
since the republican party has made 'banning' gay marriage a unilateral presidential campaign platform, i think it is pretty relevant to the discussion at hand. (they are also the compassionate party who propose amending the constitution of the united states to EXCLUDE the rights of certain individuals - this would be the first time in our history and the constitution was amended to LIMIT the rights of certain americans!). painting with a 'broad' and demeaning 'brush' has become a conservative republican party specialty.
our poor hillary has a lot of warts and failings of her own, god knows, but legislating hatred and legalizing torture are not prizes you can pin on her - or the democrats.
perhaps you and your cronies would docent a tour of historic homo-hideaways in allentown after the rally......after you come up with Fifty dollars each for the privilege of volunteering for your community that is.
taking economics aside doesn't it seem rather 1020's that two people can't be legally married. What I don't get about this whole ordeal is the logic why they shouldn't be allowed too in the first place. No one is asking the catholic church to marry them. They can think say whatever they want. No one is asking for them to change. But it is stupid that two committed adults can't share health insurance or receive other government oriented services as a couple.
You're quite right, cdubmoo, Republicans are really "kinder, gentler" Nazis with a better S'mores recipe. Think about it. The party with whom you find agreement is responsible for the precipitous decline of this country, and is quite comfortable with policies that harm the entire world. Anybody can support cutting taxes, but what about the rest? What are you? The kindly railway clerk that "has to wear the insignia" as he checks off another boxcar load of "indeterminate goods" headed deep into Poland?
nono... dont paint republicans with one broad stroke. not all of us are anti gay rights. some of us support the homosexual community and hope for their equal rights.
At the very least, and I say this as your right wing nut job republican, the decision of marriage in any form should be left up to the states. A good majority of republicans will not support any amendment stating the definition of marriage as a union between man and woman.
ChocolateShake...I couldn't agree with you more regarding the need for the City of Buffalo to provide domestic partner benefits. Officer Parete, along with probably many others in the Police and Fire Departments, have and continue to risk their lives for our safety. What I disagree about, however, is the belief that Mayor Brown won't fight this issue because of a group of Pastors who oppose such equal treatment. While this might influence his views a bit, the bigger issue has to do with money and union contracts. I don't think the administration at City Hall will open that can of worms when it is trying to keep personnel and benefit costs down. One would hope that any future negotiations with Fire and Police unions would offer this as a concession, but would the union care enough about it to consider it a large concession? I don't think so. Unfortunately, I would bet that such a concession won't even be on the table when the two sides negotiate.
is it just me or does anyone else smell a self loathing log cabin republican since "benfranklin" logged on...and i do mean logged on!
you are so right benafer, there is nothing in the least inherently controversial or political in a good old fashioned gay marriage rally, so happy, so upbeat... why, mary, its as american and wholesome as apple pie!
as for republicans, why, i know they L O V E gay marriage, ask any closeted, married, east amherst republican with a dimly sedated wife, 2.4 children, and a membership to the bath house in Rochester.
question, do you take your psychotropic mind altering medications in a capsule or suppository form?
Strictly capsule, but you knew that. Sorry nonon... can't muster the same level of angst as you on this one. Good luck with the whole mano-o-mano thing.... doesn't much interest me one way or another. I don't count myself as a homophobe, but I think I'll skip the rally. I'll try to sleep tonight realizing that makes me a nazi in your eyes. A little suprising you used to throw around the lavendar m* phrase.... you don't periodically question your party affiliation, do you? Come on nononon....waive the flag proud.
Colin, you're not allow to disagree with people on this web site, don't you know that?
1. Challenging the opinions of others isn't an attack on free speech. It's an exercize of free speech.
2. It's interesting that benfranklin doesn't seem to care about equal rights for gays, since he's expressed libertarian-sounding arguments on other topics.
Wish I was there to join, I definitely support this 100% , it's time for a change.
Coming from you I'll take that as some kind of twisted complement. Not sure why you've pulled me into this fight. What you choose to do is up to you, not sure what's so important about the government sanctioning it. Thought you were the 'live and let live guy....", somebody hijacking nonono on us? Hmmm....seems you get angry if I don't read carefully enough, but equally upset if I parse. Perhaps you should mark your posts with, "I mean this one", or..."Don't parse, I don't feel too strongly about what I've written." Whatever works for you nono... just let me know.
I have a great idea.....The black Baptist ministers and angry church ladies should concentrate on teaching unwed teenagers the importance of practicing safe sex, use of birth control, to stay away from drugs and guns, and learn how to speak proper english!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
benafer is not so big on content and all about inflammatory style, my ORIGINAL comment that enflamed such heated party loyalties was this....
"attention right wing lunatic fringe, and hate filled east amherst republican hypocrites for christ....you really wanna defend marriage? out law divorce!"
to clarify my intended sentiments i reemphasize the following:
IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY FAITHFUL, WHO I MAINTAIN ARE SELF SERVING AND HYPOCRITICAL, TRULY WANT TO 'PROTECT AND DEFEND MARRIAGE' AS THEY HAVE NAMED THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT CAMPAIGN, THEN BY ALL MEANS, O U T L A W D I V O R C E! " they dont want to 'defend marriage' they want exclusive access to it, and the right to dissolve their sacred unions at will. hence my claim of self serving hypocrisy. what is to argue here?
but it is so much easier for these condescending windbags to parse words and deflect the importance of the political realities that disenfranchise and vilify tens of thousands of fellow americans, and subject their young entirely innocent children to humiliation on a national media level! such is the sad political reality of our red state blue state nation. i dont easily wag the finger of shame, but truly 'conservative' party members are beneath all human contempt for these practices.
wow that is why i recommend you pay closer attention to your perscribed medications, especially in relation to your late night at home alcohol consumption.
you're having what is commonly referred to as your nineteenth nervous breakdown benafer, so its time to put down your 'mothers little helpers' and call crisis services. or do you republicans have a private crisis center?
Nonono
Actually,{edit} you are the poster child for hiding in anonymity since you deny who you are and have reference to your name deleted by the people you otherwise villify.
The Republican Party has not made "'banning' gay marriage a unilateral presidential campaign platform". The Republican Party does not have a platform at this time. Neither do the Democrats. The platform is presented at voted upon at the party conventions which will not be held for another seven months.
Perhaps insteading of insulting BF you should walk away from the computer for a minute and take your own meds.
Read my post carefully. I support the rally. I applaud the article that started this thread. I suggested that you try for once to stay on topic and not pervert the board with your hate filled insults toward others.
You can not demand tolerance from others while steadfastly maintaining your own prejudice.
I'm surprised all the local Divorce lawyers aren't backing this 100%.
I hope to bring my 4 year old daughter.
Thanks for the advice nono, I'll have my physician stop by momentarily. Do you have any questions you'd like me to ask him? By the way, I like benafer, perhaps I'll begin parting my hair on the other side.
"Studies have shown that, we (the LGBT individuals,) do tend to have more disposable income"
How YOU doing?
Ivan, you can add the Elmwood Village to your list of neighborhoods turned around with the help of the glbt community!
I agree with DowntownJunkie. The gay couples I know who want to get married usually go to Canada, and if Buffalo were to take the lead in legalizing civil unions for gays, those couples could stay here and spend those wedding dollars locally. In addition, we could become a destination for gay couples from all over the United States who want to get married. A progressive policy along with our proximity to the honeymoon capital of the world would be an unbeatable combination.
nbflo - I believe they already do this. Problem is, teenagers do not attend church.
I now live in the second most 'gay-friendly' US city (Mpls) which is greatly enriched by welcoming GLBT's into all aspects of community life.
I've always wished that Bflo, the "Queen City", could become the most gay-friendly city in the northeast.
It would certainly help Bflo's sagging population. Sorry I can't lend my presence to a very important symbolic event.
R. Kern (in Mpls0
pulled you in?
""The thing that speaks most loudly in this thread is that no one said anything derisive of the gay community for the first twenty posts.... then someone introduces a slightly different idea, and nonono in two sentences has cdubmoo loading people into the gas chamber."
i think you jumped in of your own accord and with both feet. damn, but you republicans are a damn slippery lot- with a very tenuous grip on chronological reality! again, you are a colossally contemptuous, arrogant, and uninformed self absorbed gas bag. if my partner slips into a coma, i could be excluded from his hospital bed side and refused the opportunity to advocate on his behalf. our rights of common inheritance are non existent. we must clear tremendous hurdles in probate when faced with a contested estate by 'blood' relatives. once we acknowledge that we do indeed consider ourselves 'wed' to eachother we are faced with federal contempt on our income tax filings, since neither single nor married aply to us in truth or conscience
we certainly could afford ourselves of painstaking right by right legal protection, by some estimates $5 to $20 dollars in legal fees to secure the rights heterosexuals get for the price of a marriage certificate and a blood test. your own words say far more about your contempt for me as a fellow american citizen than my criticism of you could ever evidence.
This could be great for multiple reasons on several levels. If such a progressive idea could take hold here, and we could break away from old, backward ideas such as this, just think of the possibilities:
1. Intelligent Politicians 2. No more unions 3. Lowering tax rates 4. Lowering utility rates to people who live next door to them (aka water and electric rates) 5. A community that picks up after itself (civic pride) 6. Holding slumlords responsible (as well as the government) 7. Ridding the city of old WASPs that are holding us back. 8. Making Buffalo, NY the most business-friendly city in the union
One can only hope......
"If your (sic) not for us, your against us" vs if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem. I think you're mixing your understanding of these two cliches. Another thing that is clearly beyond you.
Taking liberties quoting others is your bread and butter, isn't it simcoe?
Maybe I'll phrase this so you can understand it... here goes..... I'm soooooo hurt you didn't get it, I mean, wft.... doesn't anybody read what they post, or post what they mean... I'm sooooo confused...I mean, what's this have to do with gay people. I like gay people, I mean, not that much, but enough, I mean, I'm sure I like gay people more that Nazi's... but I like Nazi's too...don't get me wrong...did your read what you posted, or are you just making fun of me, wft? What's with these people...why are they making fun of me....wft?
Well, that actually hurt a bit.
Heterosexual Marriage? Done deal. Homosexual Marriage? Absolutely. Metrosexual Marriage? Never! We have to draw the line. They cannot be allowed to replicate! They must grow old and alone with their Coldplay albums!
It could also come down to the fact that fewer LGBT couples have children.. that sure opens up a lot of money even without a salary increase!
yesyesyesyes,
i do not confirm or deny my identity out of a conviction to the rule of fair play. this is an anonymous site, i have never attempted to 'out' anyones identity out of retaliation for the fact that i disagree with their opinions. any person i have ever mentioned by name holds a position of public trust, public office, board of director status and / or is relevant to a topic of discussion.
you however repeatedly demand the identity of anonymous posters and out users by name, while availing yourself of the anonymity afforded by this site.
benfranklin, "but few heterosexuals have made it this far through the thread"
don't smear the name of decent heterosexuals who understand the plight we suffer from hatred and ignorance fueled by the republican party! karl rove has made a career through stealth campaigns that smear democratic opponents as being secretively homosexual.
we are talking about hate filled self concerned republican conservatives who dont generally trouble themselves with understanding the challenges and the plight of others not of their class. remember barbara bush and the katrina victims who were 'much happier relocated to a houston shelter' because they had crappy worthless lives in new orleans anyway?
http://www.glad.org/rights/PBOsOfMarriage.pdf
THIS WEBSITE LISTS 30 PAGES OF THE RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS AFFORDED HETEROSEXUAL COUPLES BY TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, A SUPPOSEDLY 'SACRED' INSTITUTION THEY ARE SIMILARLY ALLOWED TO ABANDON AT WILL.
THESE ARE THE SAME RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES DENIED SAME SEX COUPLES WHO LIVE AS COMMITTED COUPLES AND ARE DENIED EQUAL RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS UNDER THE LAW.
TO CIVILY REPLICATE THESE INDIVIDUAL PROTECTIONS, CASE BY CASE, COUPLE BY COUPLE, IS PROHIBITIVELY COSTY AND REQUIRES THE USE OF A LAWYER AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS OF WORK FOR THE LAWYER, THE COUPLES, AND THE OVER BURDONED JUDICAL SYSTEM.
Finally! A frank and open discussion revealing all Republicans as the Jew-baiting, hate-filled, goose-stepping totalitarians that they are. It's a good thing that the overwhelming majority of Democratic Party lawmakers voted against the Patriot Act and filibustered legislation that suspends civil rights. They saved us from the Republicans. Otherwise that would be Federal law today.
Thank God Hillary Clinton is leading the fight to keep the border to Canada open in order to capitalize on the economic benefits to her constituents in Buffalo rather than pandering to the fear mongers and risk alienating some voters by standing on principal and fighting for the people that elected her to represent them just 2 years ago. Thank God we have a thread on BRO to spew hate and paint others with a broad brush.
Wait - was this this article about attending a rally to support the rights of gay men to receive the legal benefits of marriage? Thank you Nonono for setting us "straight" about what we should be discussing
Stay on topic {edit}. Please
If you truly care, don't just rant on here about your own misguided judgements of others. Get off your butt on Thursday, wrap a moth eaten scarf around your head and go down to the rally at 5:00. It's easy to type a sentence showing your own intolerance, it takes effort to show up and show your support.
The thing that speaks most loudly in this thread is that no one said anything derisive of the gay community for the first twenty posts.... then someone introduces a slightly different idea, and nonono in two sentences has cdubmoo loading people into the gas chamber. Freedom of speech for all who choose to speak, accept you would-be homophobes too smart to join in.
SLEEPL8,
National statistics show that in percentage, the gay and lesbian market is the most affluent and loyal group of all?
I wasn't aware of this last year, but I'll make damn sure I try to get out of work and get down there this year!
Study's have show that, we (the LGBT individuatls,) do tend to have more disposable income, but above that --- are very loyal consumers when there's a reason to be. I know that I purposely will avoid a business or take the time/effort to go to a certain business when I feel comfortable going there.
It's also great to hear all the positive comments from all of you that aren't gay... 'straight but not narrow'
good people =)
Great idea, heathersmiles, turn Buffalo into "America's Gay Ghetto". What road is it that's "paved with good intentions"?
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