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  1. viking

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    Jan 25th, 00:12

    A lot of what is played with where I work, has come from watching ethnic old ladies and men doing what has been handed down thru generations. The most valuable lesions were about the use of spices, and the fact that recipes are only general road maps. Since ingredients are not universal in consistency a sense of taste is your most valuable asset. Only thru repetition and practiced, instructed tasting, can one obtain the essence of what a dish should taste like. Ingredients very from region to region, season to season , and with in species, only salt is standard in taste. Learning how manipulate spices to an acquired taste standard is an art form not learned from just reading. I agree that once a taste is acquire, by reading a similar ingredient list, you can almost know how something should taste out.

  2. viking

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    Jan 24th, 21:15

    Holy shit, I've gotten a whole new appreciation of Hoss and his comments, A fire at our place of business (1980) destroyed our whole collection of the CIA library of books and publications. along many others filling two walls of shelves, the insurance company only gave us $1500. to cover the loss, hence my reliance on the web.

  3. ChristaSeychew

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    Jan 24th, 14:00

    Damp,

    Did you just manage to work a Raquel Welch reference into a YUM post? How much coffee have you had today? Do I need to call someone?

  4. RisingDamp666

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    Jan 24th, 12:56

    Gathering dust: my copy of The Myra Breckingridge Cookbook. Thankfully.

  5. RisingDamp666

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    Jan 24th, 16:18

    It was the fevers. I'm racked with them. I think the cookbook is available at Ebay. Folks, let this one go unsold.

  6. whisperoutoftime

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    Jan 24th, 23:06

    As someone without a lick of industry experience in a commercial kitchen, I'd love to have more of the classic instructional tomes (I don't even have Joy). I do regularly consult the reliable Silver Palate, and am just now having the courage to attempt some mother sauces from The Silver Spoon, Phaidon's English translation of the huge Italian culinary bible.

    I also enjoy Mark Bittman's books, especially The Minimalist Cooks at Home. His three-ingredient mantra seems limiting at first, but the recipes' simplicity is ideal for harried weeknight meals, and his ease with technique and writing gives you license to experiment. Look up his "101 Express" series in the NY Times for lots of ideas and deconstructions.

    Then there's the wonderful White Dog Cafe Cookbook (I'm from Philly, as is author Judy Wicks). Wicks founded the BALLE network, parent org of Buffalo First, and takes her brand of social justice to flavorful places. Part cookbook, part personal manifesto on meaningful living. Also highly recommended: Chez Panisse Fruit by Alice Waters for impeccable recipes and descriptions of varieties, handling, and seasonal considerations.

    New but untested are two hefty coffee-table books: The Soup Bible by Debra Mayhew and Keep It Seasonal by Annie Wayte—at first glance, food porn for everyday (not altogether a bad thing). On the advice of my boos, I still need to get into Marcella Hazan and Madhur Jaffrey.

  7. viking

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    Jan 24th, 16:28

    Cooking the books is a terrible title to use, especially for the small restaurant operations. Everyone has the "Joy Of Cooking," mine also came from my mother. The web is actually a great place to cruse for interesting interpretations and variations of food preparation.

  8. GoldenLark

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    Jan 25th, 12:44

    I agree with Hoss on the value of Cook's Illustrated. If I have the time to take the extra steps necessary to bring a dish up from good to great, this is my resource. They take you through each step of the recipe with a quest for perfection.

    My most used cookbook is Charlie Palmer's Practical Guide to the New American Kitchen. The recpies demand quality ingredients due to their simplicity, but the results are always worth it. I particularly enjoy the section on cooking for two. It gives you a few date meals that are quick & easy to prepare, but look like they took a lot of effort. Plus, the pages have a light, matte laminate on them, so when I drip molasses across the book on the way to the stove, I can grab a wet cloth, wipe it down, and it's good to go.

    My "waste of space" cookbook is every book I own by a Food Network cook. With the online recipes, other people have reviewed them, so if lots of people are disappointed by it, I'll either tweak it or forget it. (As much as Giada insists one stick of butter equals a pasta sauce, I beg to differ.)

  9. leadi

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    Jan 24th, 17:41

    Without fail I always refer to the "Joy of Cooking". I find that it is a great reference for sauces in particular. I always tweak them to my taste. I also use it a good "refresher" for preparing certain poultry dishes.

  10. Hoss

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    Jan 24th, 20:50

    Sorry for the lengthy, and un-proofed post.

  11. Boz

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    Jan 24th, 18:41

    There is a book out called "The Book Club Cook Book" that has some really interesting dishes and is a good read in itself!

  12. Hoss

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    Jan 24th, 22:33

    I've also gotten a couple keepers off the web Viking. Epicurious.com is often fruitful for me. I even have it's widget on my laptop. But there is also a tremendous amount of crap out there. Like all the 'southernfoods.com' recipes that keep coming up in the top of most of my searches.

    Once you have a good understanding of technique, then you can almost read a recipe and tell if it's gonna work or not. ie., you can spot out the lazy ones, and choose to move on. Though it's exciting to try a new technique (especially if its easier) and get kick-ass results.

  13. MichaelFranco

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    Jan 24th, 18:49

    Christa,

    I too use The Joy of Cooking, and How to cook Everything. Another favorite is The Way to Cook, by Julia Child, and one a bit more resent I refer to is The Professional Chef, by The Culinary Institute of America.

  14. whisperoutoftime

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    Jan 24th, 23:07

    er, that would be "boss."

  15. rdominguez

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    Jan 24th, 20:31

    From the vegetarian perspective (which I'm not anymore, but when I was I found cookbooks very helpful for expanding my culinary horizons): Moosewood and all its spawn (who can resist The Enchanted Broccoli Forest?!); the comprehensive Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone by Deborah Madison; and Everyday Greens (recipes from the delicious Greens restaurant in San Francisco).

  16. ChristaSeychew

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    Jan 25th, 11:31

    Ha, rdominguez, I think that The Enchanted Broccoli Forest was the first cookbook that I ever bought. Jeesh, I must have been about 16.

    Hoss-

    I decided to leave out the more technical cookbooks for this post because I was trying to relate to the average homecook. I am also a huge fan of Cook's Illustrated and consider it a necessity. I recently bought Kimball's Kitchen Detective which is a fun read and full of great info. Another author that is trying to make technique-style information available to the average homecook in an easily digestible fashion is Alton Brown, one of the few Food Network celebrities that doesn't send chills down my spine. I've learned more from his diagrams and illustrations in I'm Just Here for the Food Version 2.0 than I ever thought I would.

    Recipes are just a map, for sure, and if you don't understand why you're doing what you're doing then you end up with serious problems when things go awry. I love it when you see a recipe that says something like- "saute mushrooms" without explaining how to saute them so that they aren't a watery mess or bitter and burnt to a crisp. A lot of things can be sauteed easily, but if you don't understand that a mushroom is full of moisture and how to deal with that then you're going to get frustrated, or at the very least end up with an inferior product. These simple little things make cookbooks less than functional for the average person, and it's really a shame.

    Thank you for your lengthy contribution to our conversation.

    whisperoutoftime-

    I'm going to have to check out that Bittman book, I don't think I've ever seen it. I once used the 1-2-3 Entertaining Book for simple hors d'oeuvre recipes, it sounds like a similar concept. Love Bittman, his new vegetarian cookbook seems to be very popular.

  17. Hoss

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    Jan 24th, 20:45

    I have, and occasionally use the Joy, but only for cookie recipes and such, or as a reference for technique, Though my thoroughly butter and flour stained copy is getting less and less use as time goes by.

    My all time go to book is 'La Varenne Pratique' by Anne Willan. Though it does have recipes, it's more of a technique book. The recipes are mostly for dealing with classic straight forward items, but with those techniques down, you can do anything. Feel like some pate sucree? It's in there. Want to make a quick brioche by lunch time? Done. Need to bone a lamb shoulder? You're all set. Escalopes of Monkfish with lime and ginger? Hah, childs play.. Have a hankering for a blood thickened sauce? Look no further. It's almost like a small illustrated encyclopedia of foods, there uses, and how to deal with them. This is the book I recommend to people asking how to cook. It's like three months of cooking school packed into 500 pages well designed pages.

    Then, when you are confident with your skills, there is 'Le Repertoire de la Cuisine'. It's more of a reference book for what works. It's the size of a thin paperback, but packed full of info.. Say you are at the farmer's market, and the spinach looks especially fantastic, but you're bored of sauteing it with garlic, vinegar and rendered bacon. Pull out the repertory, and voila, 9 bona fide, verified, ways to deal with it. Many combos are of the classic, almost archaic even, French preparations, but it's a great reference. Especially when you are at a loss for ideas. You will find this book in every French Kitchen in NYC & Paris alike. The organization is a little challenging at first. But it comes in handy quite often.

    I just recently got a subscription to Cooks Illustrated. It lacks the pretty pictures and the narrative back story, but makes up for it in it's epicurean conclusions. Again, it's more of a technique vault. But w/o proper technique, what's the point. They intentionally make common mistakes, or compare tried and trues, and their conclusions are generally pretty damn accurate. I thought I made excellent apple pie until I tried their recipe. Like, Holy Shit. It was soooo good. I can sit down and slowly read this magazine from cover to cover in one sitting like it was a Harry Potter book. Looking at the etchings, and envisioning grand meals to come is a fantastic way to spend a cold, snowy, Sunday afternoon. Something that the prettier books and periodicals don't usually accomplish. Not for me at least.

    I have about 15-20 cookbooks just gathering dust, that are mostly older used bookstore finds. I cna't give them up though, because you never know when that old standby recipe for 'Apple and Sage, sausage stuffing' from "Jasper Whites Cooking from New England" book is gonna be needed.

    I hope more people comment, because I should pick up a couple of the newer cookbooks out there. i know there is a lot of exciting stuff being put together these days, and I (as well as my family) could at this point, use a breather from my standard rotation.

  18. GEMonster

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    Jan 25th, 14:09

    I love How to Cook Everything by Bittman, The Silver Palate I like for parties but got it at a cheaper price because I got it at a book club I used to belong to. I use Buffalo Beyond Winter and Wings by the Junior League, Spices of Life by Simonds and Breakfast, Lunch, Tea by Rose Carrini of the Rose Cafe for lighter meals and have a lot I use for a recipe or two but not enough to say I use them religiously. I am toying with Local Flavors now and anything that has warm winter cuisine and I love baking cookbooks...Those I have many of.

    I love recipes for the framework but not necessary the line by line instructions but learning that there are some that following exactly is absolute. It is trial and error but that is where I find some fun in it. But I am always looking for a good cookbook. I love to hear what other people use.

    One of the best weeding gifts was from my best friends mother it was a recipe box full of traditional and not so seemingly traditional recipes from her table - and she is a great cook.