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  1. inferno

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    Jan 15th, 18:18

    Great idea.

  2. buffaloed

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    Jan 15th, 18:47

    Awesome! I'm not a skateboarder, and couldn't even if I tried, but I am pretty excited about this. The area proposed is pretty under-utilized and un-populated all the time, so it will be great to get some activity in this area.

  3. Laird3rd

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    Jan 15th, 19:08

    This is a great opportunity for micropark's to bring life to parts of buffalo that are mostly vacant. Think about the dog park and how many people now spend their time using that land. A skatepark would help create a sports enthused atmosphere and would probably serve as a catalyst to get more things done around the waterfront. Buffalo should also think about a water park/ whitewater course downtown. A place where people could whitewater kayak, raft, or even surf. Since its illegal to kayak the lower Niagara(shouldn't be) we should build something people can.

  4. Laird3rd

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    Jan 15th, 19:09

    This is a great opportunity for micropark's to bring life to parts of buffalo that are mostly vacant. Think about the dog park and how many people now spend their time using that land. A skatepark would help create a sports enthused atmosphere and would probably serve as a catalyst to get more things done around the waterfront. Buffalo should also think about a water park/ whitewater course downtown. A place where people could whitewater kayak, raft, or even surf. Since its illegal to kayak the lower Niagara(shouldn't be) we should build something people can.

  5. LarkinLot

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    Jan 15th, 19:12

    What in the world was that circle under the thruway ever used for?

  6. Hoss

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    Jan 15th, 19:12

    YEAH!!! YEAH!!! YEAH!!! YEAH!!! YEAH!!!

    I really hope this happens. I recently picked up a new board from JP @ Sunday. My first new deck in about 16 years. It would be awesome to have a dedicated place to fall on my ass (I'm a bit rusty). A place I could go to relieve some stress w/o upsetting the downtown, private property, management and security employees.

    If more, phone call/letter writing to local politicos is needed to help move this along let it be known to whom they should be addressed.

  7. Hoss

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    Jan 15th, 19:17

    LarkinLot. Didn't you know? This is where the Buffalo Power-brokers of the mid 70's gathered for their monthly sacrificial seance.

    It is rumored that the 'We're Talkin' Proud" logo was devised during one of these ceremonies. Right in that very circle.

  8. Tesla

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    Jan 15th, 19:18

    I was thinking about getting a new deck......if this happens.....I definately will.

  9. MJWorthington

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    Jan 15th, 19:19

    it it weren't for all those cobble stone features there, it would have been a skate park already with zero additional investment.

    the free roof of I-190 is a nice bonus. where most park goers want to be out in the sun, the protection from the hot sun in good weather, and the rain when its not so nice would be favorable to this type of user.

  10. LarkinLot

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    Jan 15th, 19:32

    Hoss, you are right. How did I forget? Good one.

  11. sbrof

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    Jan 15th, 21:20

    Great idea and a perfect use of an ugly side of the thruways. Anything that helps to bridge the mental divide from one side of the 190 to the other is a win for downtown and our waterfront. Most of these places are perceived as no man's land where undesirables might hang out (not really but perceived).

    Move this project forward!

  12. georgethomasapfel

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    Jan 15th, 22:07

    When I made did the Erie Canal Terminus overlay map I discovered where the Liberty Pole once stood, it's right under the 190 next to the Main in front of the Aud parking lot as shown below:

    The full map map be seen here. Fabulous idea, already with an all-weather roof in place.

  13. al-alo

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    Jan 15th, 22:17

    thats funny george, i can hear you fine in this post.

    see an early engraving: http://www.tonawanda.ny.us/history/images/palm004b.jpg

  14. al-alo

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    Jan 15th, 22:19

    hey bass pro could rebuild the pole, just add some line and lures!

  15. MiesvanderDoh

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    Jan 15th, 23:09

    Good to hear this is coming along, I've followed the letters with Sam Hoyt over at Sunday it's good to see it coming towards fruition. When I was a kid right downthe way from there we had a makeshift park going,more towards the aud. The area was vacant and we didn't get in anyone's way and vice versa. perfect spot, and I really hope it pans out

  16. RisingDamp666

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    Jan 16th, 00:09

    Uh oh. Micropark......paging AtwaterLouse...

  17. AtwaterLouse

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    Jan 16th, 01:01

    Damp - Thanks for the alert but I'll only mention one state-funded { deleted, filth } feel-good pork project per month. January's was the "vacant house mural painting for peace" thing. Seemed like a classic.

  18. gaustad

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    Jan 16th, 01:32

    Thank God we have Sam Hoyt - he has brought us a Dog Park and a much needed Skate Park - good job Sam -

  19. bison716

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    Jan 16th, 09:15

    Make it happen!

  20. Joshua

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    Jan 16th, 11:15

    If a skatepark goes here, which would be great, what is going to happen to the cobblestones there? Assuming that they are going to keep whatever base is there.

  21. wojoczyniekschalski

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    Jan 16th, 12:16

    this is great. I hate the dog and hate the kids that casue troubles riding the skateboards so what do i get!! and this is my tax monies going for all this stuff. do i get a small park that don let no kids or dogs in! thats what i want

  22. buffaloed

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    Jan 16th, 12:58

    Those overlay maps are awesome! I especially love the one of the Pan-am!

  23. Perry

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    Jan 16th, 15:22

    Great project and location...I remember looking at that site a few years ago and felt the urge to host drum circles there - the site looked so unloved, but yet has a ton of potential. A skatepark - heck yeah! I also like those cities that are building downtown kayak waterparks...order one of those up too!

  24. urbanboarder

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    Jan 16th, 15:49

    I agree buffaloed, nice work george!

  25. georgethomasapfel

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    Jan 16th, 17:50

    Thanks urbanboarder and buffaloed! I'm working on more maps, my current project is the Richardson Complex, then plan on doing a railroad overlay map--a massive project considering the coverage area.

  26. al-alo

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    Jan 16th, 18:34

    hey george, i was just looking at your stuff - pretty fun. it reminded me of the cemetery that used to exist @hertel & delaware. it would be a fun project (well not for me :), but if you were ever feeling ambitious . . .), to do an overlay of old cemeteries.

    i wonder how people would react to finding out they were living, driving, shopping (as in the walgreens on delaware and north), or going to school (as in city honors) on old cemetery.

    BOOO!

  27. georgethomasapfel

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    Jan 17th, 00:01

    al-alo I never noticed the cemetery on the NE corner of Hertel (then Bird Ave) and Delaware, it wasn't on the 1866 Atlas I used for Cornelius Creek but see in on the 1880. There was also one on West Ferry and Delaware, when they widened Ferry a few unmarked graves were discovered...much like the recent surprises at City Honors. Yeah, I'll do that one.

  28. al-alo

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    Jan 17th, 10:49

    i saw it on an old map i have. although im not entirely sure the date, id guess 1890's or so. i was kind of struck that there was a creek running thru the graveyard. i hope nobody downstream was drinking that water.

  29. georgethomasapfel

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    Jan 17th, 15:44

    al-alo, found it on the 1880 Buffalo Atlas, and that was Cornelius Creek. It must not have been there for very long-or simply wasn't included on other maps. By the way, traces of Cornelius Creek still existed in the late 1950's-early 1960's when I lived on Homer Avenue. My best friend Jimmy Schaus' house sat right on top of the path of the old creek, and as kids we would occasionally find water bubbling out out of the ground in his backyard. Also, there was a small lake or marsh between Delaware and Elmwood (near channel 4) where the creek once ran...as kids we would find old metal storage tubs and go boating!

  30. al-alo

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    Jan 17th, 16:05

    i wonder if it was associated with the church that sits directly north of bockbuster. hmmm. and i live just upstream from your old homestead, on norwalk.

  31. alanscool

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    Mar 18th, 08:45

    why isn't this project on the New Line web page of future parks?

  32. alanscool

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    Mar 18th, 08:46

    why isn't this project on the New Line web page of future parks?