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  1. Hoss

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    Dec 18th 2007, 06:54

    So much for "Confidential Listing".

  2. Morrison

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    Dec 18th 2007, 07:02

    Isn't the asking price a bit high? Oh shame on me, the nightclub/music club bar business is a goldmine. With all of the potential profits, the note can be clear in a couple of years. We all know that music club owners are just raking it in.

  3. icecreamsub

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    Dec 18th 2007, 07:46

    hopefully this won't go the same route as the Continental did.... Buffalo gets bypassed for Toronto enough already and this would really hurt things more if it were to closed.

    Joe Strummer tribute this sat.

  4. Perry

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    Dec 18th 2007, 08:38

    I love the Mohawk - seen some great music there over the years...and some pretty crappy bands too..but it's always a fun stop downtown.

  5. WholeLottaJibbaJabbah

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    Dec 18th 2007, 08:43

    Pete is a really nice guy, and I hope someone buys this place up. It would be terrible for both local acts and national acts if this place goes vacant. I love the Hawk! And love playing at the Hawk!

  6. magnum

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    Dec 18th 2007, 09:29

    Didn' the Icon just reccently close? Anyone know why? It didn't even get a "for sale" sign, wonder why. Mohawk is a great location, should not have any trouble selling.

  7. DumpsterKid

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    Dec 18th 2007, 10:37

    I went here last night for the first time to see Robert Blake and it was awesome. I'm assuming you get the whole three (four?)story building with that price? The area is only getting better.

  8. SLEEPL8

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    Dec 18th 2007, 10:39

    I have never been to Mohawk. What genre typically plays there? I think for a live music club to do well in Buffalo they need to cover multiple genres.

  9. BFLORome

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    Dec 18th 2007, 10:49

    $349,000???????? Uh...I don't think so. Yeah...it's got some 'charm and character'--but is being filthy included in that? I'd actually rather piss out the back door and watch the rats scurry than step into that bathroom. Sorry. Ughhhhh. The positive part is that it could be a great live music venue--so here's hoping someone will get it for the right price and clean that pace up without losing the 'charm.' Oh--and real glasses would be nice.

  10. wizardofza

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    Dec 18th 2007, 10:52

    Funny how this news comes in the form of a glorified real estate ad instead of a real feature post that might bring a bit more human perspective to this.... Says a lot about this site's priorities; how it looks toward the city merely as a collection of physical abstractions like buildings and landmarks instead of the people who actually populate her. Mohwak is such a deep-seated Buffalo tradition, t'was a shame to find out about it's sale in such a cold manner.

  11. platt4

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    Dec 18th 2007, 11:03

    U must be new to the Rising huh wizard? Did you prefer hot chocolate to sip while reading to get warm and fuzzy? There's plenty of people profiles here.

  12. viking

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    Dec 18th 2007, 11:40

    Too bad to lose another icon, and club owners are not raking it in, I know a few of the owners and making ends meet, providing good entertainment is for them is doing well. I just hope the Sportsman continues to do well, I really wish they could rake it in, they deserve it. It's difficult supporting Bflo's musical talent and not all as Glamourous as it appears.

  13. griff

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    Dec 18th 2007, 12:15

    Broadway Joes is also for sale. 3 live music venues either closed (Icon) or for sale (Mohawk, Broadway Joes) doesn't bode well for the live music scene.

  14. icecreamsub

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    Dec 18th 2007, 12:24

    Buffalo's live music scene has never been very strong with attracting national acts....Rochester for some reason is even better than Buffalo. Besides the occassional Town Ballroom show you pretty much have to rely on local acts or drive to Toronto for anything decent

  15. joeycanoli

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    Dec 18th 2007, 12:32

    This is pretty depressing news. I've seen many great shows at Mohawk over the past 3 years (Tokyo Police Club, The Walkmen, The French Kicks, Big Sleep, Headlights....etc). They've attracted some very good underground bands on the verge of breaking out. Nothing beats live music and a $2 PBR. With Soundlab and The Tralf now hosting most of the big underground names, i'm sure it's hard for them to compete. Hopefully someone buys this place and carries on the same tradition.

    P.S. Broadway Joe's was bought over the summer. I don't know why they don't get hooked up with Supernaut for some good shows.

  16. Quinn

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    Dec 18th 2007, 12:55

    I knew the Mohawk was in trouble when I went in for a Happy Hour, and everyone was very drunk and openly smoking indoors. Yick!

  17. ChocolateShake

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    Dec 18th 2007, 13:17

    If that is Madonna calling, I'm not available.

  18. chrismal

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    Dec 18th 2007, 13:50

    For the record, The Mohawk Place is doing very well and has had its most successful year to date in 2007. Selling a business does not necessarily mean it is not doing well. In this case, Pete the owner is interested in collecting his equity to use for other things, such as retirement and travel. As the regulars will attest, Pete can be found at the bar working the door almost every night of a show, 4 or 5 times a week, usually into the wee hours. It is simply now time to pass the torch and get some sleep. As far as the doom and gloomers go, The Mohawk Place is NOT in any danger of closing and we are prepared to take the long road (years, if necessary) to find the right owner who will keep the spirit and integrity of the club in place and ensure its longevity.

    Chris Malachowski

  19. tonyarmani

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    Dec 18th 2007, 15:35

    I'm pretty sure if business was good and profits were high then someone would have bought this fairly quickly...also to all of you that think the bar business is as easy as opening doors and tapping a keg, you are sadly mistaken. There is a list longer than Santa's naughty list of things that can go/do go wrong every night. Good luck to whoever takes it over.

  20. UnionAMG

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    Dec 18th 2007, 15:47

    Tony, without sounding too much like I'm putting you down, you must not have a great understanding of economics/business pricing. So don't make blanket statements like that, particularly right after someone who is much more familiar with the details of the business just gave an explanation of the situation.

    A business can be doing VERY well and make large profits, and those profits would be represented by a higher asking price. It's all about the Net Present Value of future expected profits and cash flows. If the asking price is less than that value, then its a good deal, if its higher than that, then its a bad deal. So essentially, just because it hasn't been snapped up yet, doesnt mean the business isn't healthy.

  21. dpbflo

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    Dec 18th 2007, 16:48

    I love mohawk place, and hate to see it go. Would love to buy it.. but 349? Holy hell. Its going to need 10's of thousands in cleaning and renovating on top of that. I have never been upstairs.. but if the downstairs is any idea forget about it.

  22. jen

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    Dec 18th 2007, 18:41

    I would also hate to see The Mohawk Place close. Good luck Chris! I hope you find the right owner.

  23. jen

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    Dec 18th 2007, 18:46

    The Buffalo News did an article on the Icon's second closing. Going off my memory (not that great) I think one of the reasons they cited for closing was not making that much off of live shows.

  24. thurday

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    Dec 18th 2007, 23:31

    I have been going to the Hawk for about about 5 years now. It has great music and even better people. In the summer it is the best place to be after the square. It gets soooo packed there that you can barely move so I highly doubt that the bar is having financial problems. Pete is such a great guy, and if you know Pete then you know that he won't sell it to someone that won't carry on the spirit of the Mohawk : )

  25. Joshua

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    Dec 19th 2007, 07:57

    Here is some positive news: Waterfront ethanol plant gets green light from judge. A very positive news story for the Ganson St. area.

  26. Jas

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    Dec 19th 2007, 08:00

    This isolated location would be excellent for a strip club! Help put the local girls thru college.

  27. Joshua

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    Dec 19th 2007, 08:33

    Bryon Brown's reaction to a WSJ article This was just publised on Fix Buffalo.

  28. AvaRouge

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    Dec 19th 2007, 09:07

    Isolated Jas? You oughta get out more. Within blocks in every direction is millions of dollars of investment and new residences.

  29. tonyarmani

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    Dec 20th 2007, 10:09

    UnionOMG - Thank you for economics 101 lesson, I'm sure UB could use a fellow like you.

    I simply pointed out that in the business world things that are undervalued do not stay on the market for long. If it is a good price and value, then someone will snap it up relatively quickly.

  30. becker

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    Dec 24th 2007, 22:43

    Joeycanoli - Broadway Joe's is for sale again, the listing is active: MLS #301342. They are asking $239,000.