St. John's Church - These Stones
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Leave a commentI just had an idea. The next time a structure of this date or age is demo'd, we should use the bricks to construct new builds at Canalside. This way the building will have a bit of character.....any takers?
There is no threat of demolition of St Johns, the church just completed repairing the brickwork that had bulged on both sides of the setback at the tower.
That wasn't my point.
I misunderstood, bricks are salvaged during many demolitions and reused as a facing on new construction.
I'd like to see a collection of authentic early structures moved to Canalside. There are many early frame homes scattered around Buffalo that are obscured by alterations and modern materials. They were built before the Civil War and are usually of modest size. Many of these homes are threatened with demolition or are vacant and could be restored to their original condition to create a small village at Canalside.
I suggested moving the Balcom-Chandler House to Mayor Brown on a talk show a few years ago prior to its demolition at 89 Niagara St. on the edge of Niagara Square. Of course he gave the stock answer "we will look into it" and promptly blew it off and destroyed the only surviving residential property in the Square for that crappy courthouse they built.
We have never had a mayor that recognized the value in our historic built environment. I have seen so many quality buildings and homes demolished in the past 30+ years without any attempt or plan to identify those with potential. I think we have finally made progress though, there is a grass roots effort in preservation today that continues to grow.
I had a somewhat similar idea in that, if we are going to knock down historic buildings (say on the E. Side, because the area is deemed "uninvestable" for now) move them to Canal Side. Why try to create old-appearing, when we still have, and are demolishing, old.
Exactly, the historic old churches that have been demo'd over the past 5 years could have had their bricks salvaged, for new construction on the Canalside site.
Good money in that, I would figure. Either finding older bricks to match a structure or simply to have older bricks with character. Wouldn't be surprised to see bricks being a hot theft item like copper.
Great, a full house, I commented about it on your other St Johns story. Preservation efforts are often broad brushed here on BRO as reactive, elite, and lacking private investment. Nothing could be further from the truth at St Johns, the people came together to help preserve this fine old church. The crowd was made up of all kinds, but the goal was to raise money to stabilize and support this important neighborhood asset. Black Rock has a core of committed volunteers and long time neighborhood activists, there is a strong sense of place and pride here.
Black Rock Lifer: "there is a strong sense of place and pride here".
You're so right about that!
My Great Aunt owned a house on Riverside St., right at the spot where the sharp curve is off Tonawanda St.
We came from Germany to live with her back in the fifties.
The American born side of our family lived all over Riverside and Black Rock.
My parents wanted a place of their own as soon as they could afford it and ended up buying one right behind the Main St. Trico plant on Rodney St. ( talk about the past connecting with the present ).
When our American cousin's heard about it, some of them stopped speaking to us for leaving Riverside to go "that part of town".
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St Johns was built on land donated by the owner of my house in 1850 (Jacob Smith 1818-1871). The Jacob Smith House and Tavern originally occupied a 3/4 acre parcel that included the present site of the church. St Johns served the largely German community that had settled in Lower Black Rock or Black Rock Damn as it was also called. The village was centered around St Johns(established 1847)and St Francis (established 1849). Both churches operated a school at the site, St Johns is long gone (the school site is now the side yard) but the St Francis School still stands as part of the Religious Arts Center.
The bell tower of St Johns predates the the rest of the building, it was re-used from an earlier version of the church. When we were kids it was quite the thrill to be designated as a 'bell ringer' on Sunday morning. Pulling the ropes on the heavy bells resulted in the ability to ride up several feet on the rope as the bell gained momentum. The other memory of kids going to St Johns was the annual collection of horse chesnuts. Chesnut trees lined the streets in the area and each fall we would fill our pockets before going into church. A few of the old trees still survive in the area and are well over 120 years old.
St Johns represents continuity and endurance, the church has survived multiple fires, neighborhood change, and loss of membership yet still survives. Hope to see this great little church continue to serve the community long into the future.
Are there any pictures of the Church tower with the old building? What happened to the old building, was it demolished or just enlarged for other reasons?
Not to my knowledge, I believe the original church built in 1851 was wood frame. There were at least two enlargements resulting in the present building size. They demolished the rear section but kept the tower and rebuilt around it.
You've written "Black Rock Damn" a couple of times. Do your folks know you use such language, young man?!
Seriously, I'm just wondering if you actually mean "Black Rock Dam" ;-)
I did mean dam, must be a sign of some underlying issue I have failed to resolve. ;)
The village was called "the dam" due to the guard lock and dam constructed in 1825 to control water level in the Erie Canal. The dam created a difference in water level that was exploited for waterpower. Lower Black Rock soon became a center of grain milling and was once the largest producer in the eastern United States.
Damn interesting!
This also means the Black Rock is "The Best Neighborhood in Buffalo by a Dam Site" ;-D