My Favorite Buildings: Guercio & Sons gets it!
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Leave a commentI have two favorite food stores in Buffalo; Guercio's is one of them, Lexington Coop is the other. Guerciou's is a unique shopping experience, never had any bad experience there at all.
Love their selection and the prices, Steel is right to highlight this retail store and how they display their products, thank you for doing that.
people may respect the vascular institute (just picking a recent new build). but they -love- guercios.
i wish architects designed more for lovability (because people will care and fight for buildings they love) than for impressing their peers.
Stupid comment.
Forget apples and oranges, you are comparing apples to angioplasty.
this is what i am getting at:
http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/kbenfield/the_importance_of_lovable_plac.html
And what I'm getting at is that I will gladly do all my grocery shopping in the new Vascular Institute if you use Guercio for all your medical needs.
once again missing the point. lovability is independent of function.
there are some grocery stores that aren't all that lovable (like most big boxes), whereas we have a hospital that is extraordinarily lovable (richardson complex).
YOU love the Richardson Complex. Someone who was actually treated at the hospital might feel differently.
YOU don't love the GVI, whereas someone treated there, or helped by therapies there might feel differently from you.
These are personal opinions and nothing more.
You claim that lovability is separate from function, but argue that it is inherently tied to form. If Form follows function, however, then your definition of lovability is tied up in its function.
It's ok that the small, charming, neighborhood sidewalk produce stand looks the part. Similarly, it's ok that the GLOBAL VASCULAR INSTITUTE looks the part of being a Global Medical Research Institute that focuses on the Vascular system.
Stop trying to invent bullsh!t metrics that 'prove' your point. 'Lovability' is nothing more than a lame attempt to 'intellectualize' that which you prefer while denegrating that which you don't.
i've always loved that it makes me feel like i'm at the set of The Godfather, the scene where Don Corleone almost gets whacked while buying fruit at a shop exactly like this one...
It is a fun old world "experiance". Quality, meh. Same stuff from Sysco as the super markets, just rearranged into old baskets and crates. Sorta like they do at Disney.
If you really wanted, you could order most everything from Amazon and never leave your house.
The perpetual misery wouldn't go anywhere.
There are a lot of cool places in Buffalo, but unless you have a penthouse in Avant you can't afford to shop in those places. Guercio's prices at the deli are unbeatable for the quality. I kind of like the rough-around-the-edges manner of the workers. I don't need my self-esteem boosted, I need my Boar's Head. Although God help you if you ask for cheese after your meat has been sliced. They also have this giant, rectangle Lebanese flatbread that makes the best pizza crust. A fella tried to do this on Hertel with Pasquale's Italian Market (sign is still up but its a hookah outlet now), but the neighborhood wouldn't support him. Cheaper than the supermarkets, unbeatable freshness and quality, and he got stiffed. Refused to sell Lotto and smokes, so he went under. Sad.
I tried to support Pasquale's, but after too many encounters with rotting fruits or vegetables in the bins, I decided I would just go to Dash's for quick grocery runs, and the Lexington Co-op for most of my produce.
It wasn't just the smokes and lotto that doomed that market. There were some basic store management issues as well.
I agree the produce could have used some more turnover. He was in a bad spot, the local eateries would often times come in and buy him out of tomatoes or whatever, so people weren't accustomed to getting produce and when they did it would be in a bad way. No cash in produce either. The deli and the bread were unreal though. Guy made his own Roast beef, 4.49 a lb. Drove to the Rainbow bridge twice a week to meet a guy from the portage bakery in NF Ont, to get parbaked Italian bread. Everyone knows Portage bread is the best. I miss the joint.
Guercio's is cheaper than the supermarkets on cheeses. I regularly travel in from Amherst to buy feta, mozzarella, parmesan, etc. Also their couscous can be purchased in bulk and there are many varietites. Ditto with the pastas. And you can buy small amounts of fresh herbs, again cheaper than Wegmans, etc. And I've never found the staff to be rude.
Personal service? Maybe if you are a friend of the family or have been shopping there for decades. Otherwise, be prepared for not even a "hello" as you check out.
I really want to love Guercio's but being glared at when I approach the counter and having my produce slammed around makes me just head over to Wegmans.
Whenever I am in the Buffalo area, I stop into Guercioâs as I enjoy or perhaps, appreciate the old-world ambiance just as I stop into Latinaâs on Pine Avenue in Niagara Falls for the same reasons.
I have never been treated rudely, though, I am sure that can happen as working with the public can be more than a tad trying especially in the inner city.
I have been told the butcher across the street is also excellent but have yet to stop into their shop.
My most recent experience has been the English Pork Pie Company on South Park â excellent but a tad expensive but that is a âtreatâ for me as it reminds me of my days living in England.
If you go out in the world every day looking to be offended, you will be. Those ladies at the deli counter are a riot. Have fun with them when you go in. Life's too short.
There is no way you were ever glared at or had your produce slammed on a counter. That has never happened to me ever anywhere, let alone Guercio's. Unless maybe you are a rude creep who asks for it. You're probably the person who leaves bad reviews on on Tripadvisor to everyplace you stay and eat at. I think your name reveals your character anyhow. Why do you laugh at Bills fans anyway? Are we funny?
Haters will hate. I see we have the usual cast of characters posting their usual destructive commentary. productive critique is good. Destructive banter just to get a rise on the internet is just boring.
..........so are your pointless submissions to this website. Now back to my nap.
Lol to most things said here.
If you expect to have a smiley face sticker on your way out as someone checks your receipt your at the wrong establishment.
The up front staff are mostly the owners, who are providing great italian products you can't find at any local supermarket, and at a better price. Ex, avocados are 89 cents , bag o mixed greens for a buck twenty five
The deli has a system, I learned the hard way, but I'd rather learn the hard way then get a fake smile from a 17 year old working his first job worried about the next message board hes going to hate on
Deli rules - get your cheese and aged meats first on the left counter, then to your standard deli meats then to your olives, feta, tuna Mac meatballs etc.
I recommend the golden beats, avocados, jarred muffaletta, guercios jarred Romano cheese sauce. From the deli the hot sopressata, hot capicola, grabbing balls of mottz, tuna mac. And they have a great olive oil section as well as bulk spices
Grab a coffee at sweetness 7 after, go to frank zarcones for your meats beforehand
Guercio's may be one of the only establishments in Buffalo that still has proper, functional canvas awnings. Whenever I look at old neighborhood or downtown photos, one of the things I most wish we still had around were all of the awnings.
Ask yourself why that is.
I saw this grocer driving down Grant going to Sweet Seven(I believe that is the name) , thought it was a film set.It was just too perfect Mulberry st NYC feel, very cool and adds to the street synergy and feel; if it is or if it is not the case, hopefully these posts will help them improve thier attitude.
I see a lot of complaints about service, but that is one of the top reasons people shop and SPEND THEIR MONEY at an establishment. Others are prices, selection and location.
If you are uncomfortable asking a clerk to cut meat why would you even bother shopping there. Who wants to deal with a neanderthal looking beast snarling at you as you order.
This very above described person exists at Wegmans in West Seneca. In the middle of an air conditioned store this woman has huge sweat beads on her forehead while taking orders. Very sloppy with her packaging too. Everyone else was fine, except her. While there with my daughter one time, we both were hoping are number would not be called by her. Once it did happen and after waiting thru 10 other customers I just threw the number out when she called it and left.
Go to Guercio's, you'll pay half price for those same meats or better, no exaggeration. Call me German but I'm just not intimidated by deli ladies. Especially when there is a huge counter between you that they'd have to hop over in order to get their hands on you. The best cold cuts, however, come from Camelia meats at the Broadway Market. I like Guercio's a lot, but Camelia is the number 1 reason I don't get there nearly as much.
Steel - I like Guercio's too, but would it even be successful and open if not for its 20-car parking lot right across Grant St?
I doubt the store would be existing for you to praise if all if Guercio's car-arriving customers all had to hunt for parking spaces on Grant or side streets, or use a parking lot behind it at that location (if there even was room behind it for a parking lot, which there isn't because side street residential is there).
Satellite view here http://goo.gl/maps/oYveB
Guercio's is a good example of how if the City had an extremist zealotry ban on surface parking lots on commercial streets it would backfire with unintended consequences.
Yes, if every parcel was a parking lot that wouldn't be good either, but allowing some amount of balance and compromise is good.
To be clear - I'm not saying any parking lot can guarantee a store like Guercio's will open and succeed. But lack of one can result in the opposite.
A similar example is Mark Goldman's new restaurant in Black Rock, with its parking lot right across the street along Amherst St.
I could list plenty of very successful restaurants and taverns in Buffalo that do not have any off-street parking, and restaurants and taverns attract far more simultaneous customers than a little grocery store like Guercio's.
Besides, Steel's article doesn't even mention parking lots.
Yes, he doesn't mention a parking lot topic in this article where it's a positive to the business he praises, but did very negatively in his other recent article - that was my point.
And sure, you can list plenty of businesses which don't have (just like I could list plenty which do) - but I was asking about this specific business as an example.
Do you guys think Guercio's would have the success it has on Grant without its parking lot?
And how about Goldman's new place on Amherst St?
I think the parking lot is fairly irrelevant. I can't remember ever having any trouble finding curbside parking on Grant Street.
Black Rock Kitchen & Bar may have a parking lot, but Blue Monk does not and seems to be just as successful, if not more. I think that if the business is run effectively and provides a valuable product or service, people will come to it, even if they have to (gasp!) park on the street or even (shudder!) put a few quarters into a parking meter.
Ok, fair enough, at least you answered - thanks.
If the parking lots are truly 'irrelevant', then I don't know why owners of Guercio's or Goldman's Black Rock Kitchen-Bar would spend money to own or lease them - keep them paved, snow plowed, insured, etc.
It would seem a dumb waste of their $ if it isn't at all important for growing their number of customers.
(same for parking lots of to-the-sidewalk Lexington Co-op, Elmwood Market, ETS-Starbucks-Mezza, Jim's, Bullfeathers, etc, ... I won't mention Pano)
A difference between Blue Monk and BRK&B might be customer-perceptions of side streets in the two areas?
And/or the parking lot of the M&T almost next door to Blue Monk?
I think those parking lots are meant to accomodate suburbanites and I don't mean that as sarcastic. Most suburbanites have not mastered parallel parking and many have an irrational fear of city streets, especially side streets. I rarely use parking lots if on street parking is available. I didn't even realize some of the businesses listed had them.
Maybe so what you said about accommodating suburbanites. With over 70% of Erie Co residents not living in Buffalo, that could be enough customers to make differences between some businesses succeeding or not, or being able to expand, or afford to be open more hours as often requested on here.
Still, hard to believe there aren't also some city-residing customers with factors like age, or being weight-challeneged or other physical reasons, or in some places/times yes nervousness or vulnerability about surroundings - not to mention weather at times, or even sometimes convenience if in a hurry.
It can all add up depending on a type of business, target customer bases, location, or whether there's already other parking lots nearby, ...
Perhaps but I have never used the parking lot. You can usually park closer to the store on the street. When I have driven there I have never used the parking lot. But certainly we can surround every building with parking and then we would be assured of needing parking around every building. You are right people in dense walkable cities Like Boston and Madison with very limited parking must be a lot dumber than people in the Buffalo where parking is so abundant.
Steel, it's condescending remarks such as those that make people hate you. Do you always have to act like a pompous jerk?
On a side note, much has been said about the open air markets in New York City, but Pittsburgh has a pretty good collection of markets, as well.
lol, the difference in grownup-ness between your reply & JSmith's speaks volumes!
(FWIW, I don't think I've ever used parking lot at Guercio's either in the few times I've been there - but as much as I like convenient parking, I'm still healthy, easily mobile, and I don't mind walking in general or around that part of Grant. All that might not be the case for all customers they want to attract - especially in winter or rain, or after dark, etc)
Meh. Rather go to Caruso's on Hertel. A bit smaller, comparable prices. They have the Italian imports I need with a staff that welcomes me and appreciates my business.....and then down the street to Johnny's Meats.
Does Caruso's carry fresh produce?
Now that is what shopping is all about.
personally, i bike to guercios. two very nice blue bike racks in front!
Caruso's carries a small amount of fresh produce, but you have to get there early in the morning for the best selection. I usually do produce at [believe it or not] PriceRite on Kenmore Ave.. Super fresh, great selection including exotics, and a fraction of the price of anywhere else.
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I wish this place was still as it was about 10 years ago, but it has declined. There was a greater variety and much higher quality of green groceries.
I used to shop there at least every week, but the last time I went there, I heard language so foul and disgusting from the deli counter workers that I put down my basket and left, and will probably never return.
TotaĆly agree...they have the most miserable staff working there....they might be efficient but horrible bedside manners.....and mostly i'm referring to the family members...it still serves a purpose for people wanting to avoid driving to Wegmans....I don't really think of it as an architectural gem ..but whatever
I dunno - I've been going there since my mother pushed me in a buggy and have always enjoyed the NYC-style of the place. Further, when comparing prices on local condiments and products, they are much lower than the other chain grocers.