Madonna's Meets Expectations
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Leave a commentI disagree- they know Buffalo, and Buffalo loves its sports teams. It doesn't matter what type of restaurant you are, once Hockey is back on, it you want to have anyone sitting at your bar eating dinner, you better have a TV showing the game. Hutches, Olivers, Seabar, Aroma all have TV's in their bars, because if you know the restuarant industry, you're fighting for every dollar and ever bar dollar is worth more. Get people to stay and watch a game (obviously right now is an exception) and you will have a busier bar crowd. If they are trying to compete with Tempo, then this is a different story.
Well, that is a really sad statement on Buffalo's culture, then. Going out to eat should be a social experience, not an insular, TV watching one. I've never been to a city where it was such an accepted practice. I'd love to see that change.
Youre free to leave. Just sayin...
So you guys aren't going to patronize a restaurant because it has a tv?
Who said that? Not me.
And, that's mature Jay D. Keep that mind open to people with differing opinions.
You dont want to see the tv, dont sit by it, or dont go to that restaurant. ONE tv behind the bar. Your comment was pompous.
And, yours was incredibly intolerant and provincial. Not putting Buffalo's best foot forward...
Sort of, yes, at least sometimes. When I'm going out for a fine dining experience, I'll choose a place that offers the ambiance I expect with a fine dining experience. That won't include a Sabres game.
"The owners are hoping that this will become a relaxing neighborhood bar and restaurant - a place where the food stands out and the wine list is as much of draw as the smells that waft out the front door. Nothing fancy, just quality offerings at reasonable prices."
Where are you getting fine dining?
I suppose you're right. I guess I'm still stuck on when this was Fiddleheads, and instead of a sitting in front of a blank wall with a television on it, you could sit at that bar and watch actual chefs preparing amazing dishes. So I will have to see your point, accept that that this is a downgrade, and get over it.
So ask to be seated where there isn't a television. Lombardo's has tv's at the bar; I'd classify that as fine dining. Who cares if it's Buffalo's culture to have tv's in a restaurant. It's also Buffalo's culture to wear sweat pants downtown, which I know you're so fond of. Don't sit within sight of the tv. Problem solved.
I understand what you're saying, but there are a large number of people that will go to a bar, alone, grab a bite and watch a game. Its part of living in Buffalo. If there were TV's plastered throughout the restaurant, it's a different story. You'll be hard-pressed to find a restaurant in Buffalo that doesn't at least have one TV in the bar area.
"hard-pressed to find a restaurant in Buffalo that doesn't at least have one TV in the bar area. "
How about in anywhere in the country. This isn't Somalia.
I can think of many bars in Baltimore that do not have a TV.
Here are pictures of two places in Baltimore's Locust Point neighborhood, The Wine Market and SILO.5% Wine Bar:
http://winemarketbistro.com/wine-bar/
And that was without really trying that hard. You can say that people in Buffalo need to go out to dinner and watch the game, but Baltimore is at least equally sports crazy as Buffalo. The difference is that there are so many more places to choose from for dinner in bigger cities. You don't have to ask a restaurant to seat you away from the TV; you can simply choose a restaurant that doesn't have one in the first place. Buffalo doesn't have that luxury, so restaurants/bars have to offer more universal appeal.
While I'm not a fan of TVs in restaurants it is hardly a Buffalo thing. Seriously I have been all over the country and it's not exclusive to Buffalo. Make a little google search and you can see people from all over the country complaining, don't make this a "Only in Buffalo" thing.
This is the equivalent of a tv in the bar area. You won't see the tv from the 'main' eating area. For those that don't like it, think of it this way... those that do come in to watch a game are subsidizing your fine dining experience in the dining room.
I think the anti-tv establishment is overreacting. I'm sure there are plenty of non-tv options in Buffalo. At least proportionate to the size of other cities. I can think of two in 0.73 seconds: Betty's and Bistro Europa.
Neither of which is a fine dining option.
God bless. That's *&%$ing great. This is the stupidest $%*#ing thing to argue about. Who cares if they have a fucking tv. Get over it, and get over yourselves.
How many tv's do you beacons of sophistication have in your homes?
well said Lou, but don't hold back... :-)
I can't speak for everyone, but I have exactly one fucking TV in my home.
I happened to be in Madonna's prior to it's opening, and when I saw the tv, mentioned it would cause a stir on Buffalo Rising. I was given a look that said...'you've got to be kidding', or maybe, 'why would we care'.
It has to be a little disheartening to spend time on developing a menu, applying for all the permits, doing two to three months of remodeling, and then have people judge your establishment not on the quality of the food, but whether you have a tv or not. Try the food, report back.
I mostly agree with this, but ambiance is a legitmate component for a restaurant to be concerned with. Some people consider the atmosphere to be equally important as the food. And you are completely right, in that it must be a terrible feeling to put so much thought into the food, completely nail it, and then have your customers distracted by the noise of a tacky television show or a game--especially when that could be so easily avoided.
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I want to love this place, I really do, but.......they need to give the interior some life. It is too bland for words.
GET SOME TALENTED LOCAL ARTISTS TO CREATE SPACE. There is simply no excuse for having a space so bereft of design.
Also, I would get rid of the TV. Totally unnecessary--but that is just my opinion.
They already had one local artist do their mural. I am pretty sure they aren't going to leave it as is. I'm sure they could have gone traditional and "olive gardened" the place up and just as easily threw kitsch all over the place like so many places do. Considering they tore down everything and built it back up I would give them a little time on that judgement.
agree completely on the tv. fine for bars, nightclubs, laundromats, and airports. absolutely wrong in any restaurant that wants to be taken seriously.