Seneca Street Project to Help Bridge Larkin District and Downtown
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Leave a commentMore info on this building from The Hydraulics Press:
http://www.hydraulicspress.com/the_hydraulics/2009/08/paper-box-factory-or-the-temple-of-aphaea.html
I absolutely LOVE that picture of the inside. I really hope that design follows through!
Hats off to Mr Savarino for working with the Preservation Board to re-use the entire building, not just the newer portion. His use of Historic Tax credits made this economically feasible.
RE: the idea that this project will not draw tenants from downtown but rather compete with suburban offices. On its face this assertion sounds silly, but it's more true than it seems.
Larkin is very competitive with suburban office parks, much more so than I imagined it would be. It has much of the same feel as those contemporary competitors. Right off the highway exit, plenty of parking right outside the building, it has that get in, park, get out sensibility to it which many commuters find attractive. I think Savarino is correct that shoppers for suburban office space who are not attracted to the downtown core may well find this complex appealing.
While its great that they aren't looking to pirate from the Downtown core, and this is good for the City, as a region we need new jobs - not relocated jobs from the City to Suburbia or Suburbia to the City.
More people in the City. More people in the Burbs. Creating housing or commercial stock to create a vacancy in another neighborhood or area is really a wash. We just maintain.
Hopefully, one day we can get away from this mentality.
What an inspiring/inspired project.
How I wish there were another daylight factor available closer to downtown ready for such a reuse.........oh, wait..........
This is a great extension on the redevelopment of the Larkin District.
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How about some of the hipsters move into the surrounding areas? Valley, Ward, Hydrolics. Much safer, nicer than the East Side that everyone here is trying to push.
Peg from the Valley Center has recruited at least 3 young couples to move to The Valley.
I agree. I did my studio in the Old First Ward and I was surprised by the sense of community one still feels walking around the streets. The dense, village-like housing and corner commercial buildings are all still largely intact. You're walking distance to the river and two new riverfront parks. It will be interesting to see how the Perry Choice Neighborhood Initiative helps bridge the gap between either side of South Park.
Great project and I wish them the best on it and alot of balls to move forward without someone signing on ....It will be nice to have someone move from the burbs to the city location adn bring a few hundred jobs but in the end, it would be nicer to bring in a company from outside the area to bring in new jobs and who knows?
Thank you Mr. Savarino for hearing those damned obstructionist preservationists:)
Back in the 1980s, Chicago had a district that was similar to this part of Buffalo. It was rundown, unsafe, lots of empty lots and mostly drug dealers and other undesireables.
Still, it was in a good location, just minutes from downtown, and there was some good housing stock nearby, and enough original tenants to keep the place hanging on. Then, during the late 80s, some gentifiers starting moving in. Slowly, over the next 15 years, things started to change, and today it's one of Chicago's best neighorhoods. It's called Wrightwood, and my sister was one of the first to move in the area back then. All the warehouse space has been converted to shopping and offices, all the spaces have been filled with small plazas and short strip malls (that sounds bad, but it actually works since it's a healthy mix, and you do need small spaces for boutiques).
Big box stores love the area and filled in the larger spaces. Today, it's highly desireable.
If we can keep things going, this section of town can indeed compete with the suburbs and become a hip new place that will revitalize the surrounding area.
What's great about Wrightwood is that there was enough of the old immigrant parts (think German, Polish and so on) that it has helped the old stores survive and even thrive. This could be great if they bring in Polonia and fuse them all together.
They should be trying to do something similar with the TRICO Building
An interior courtyard for the Trico would resolve alot of issues that they using to justify demolition.
Buffalo has a long list of buildings with interior courtyards so why does this need to be a novel idea for TRICO?
This is something to keep an eye on. The demand and activity for tenants with this size floor plates will be similar to the ones Paladino wanted for his Webster Block proposal. Let's see ho much interest in draws up...
it makes no sense whatsoever to demolish old daylight factories. they are usually built formidably well and when you unbrick the windows, the light is fantastic. hats off to savarino & co.
This lobby looks amazing. Lets hope that it turns out that way.
This project is awesome. They should now consider ECC for the Larkin district. Potential college community.
Anyone that thinks the Larkin District is doing anything other than reducing occupacy in the CBD is kidding themselves. You may like the restoration of these old buildings but they do more damage than good by preventing the CBD from stabilizing itself, especially in the face of nearly a million SF of space that is about to be dumped on the market at the HSBC center.
The Larkin District is as tragic as locating UB in Amherst, or having 3 separate ECC campuses or a football stadium in OP... the list goes on and on.
@yea right: except the larkin districts largest occupant moved in from Amherst not the CBD and has been creating jobs there not just moving them there. So how many companies have vacated CBD space for the larkin district?
Where are all the people against surface lots and the suburban design of the Seneca Casino?
Essentially, what you are creating downtown Larkin is a suburban office park with free parking on surface lots. Yes you have a building built to the sidewalk but surrounded by parking lots. Its still creates an island effect. While this is ok and applauded in Larkin why is it not ok for the Seneca design? Put the casino pro/con debate aside and limit the debate only the merits of the architectual design please.
I re-affirm the hope that we can start pilfering companies not from the surrounding areas (read suburbs) but from other cities and areas as well with cheap and available ready space providing new money, new jobs, maybe even new people to the region as an entirety.
It also tells you we need to create additional residences in and around the down town core areas for people to live in. People want to go to work and go home. I don't think this is unique to any city. Keeping people DT requires people live DT.
Let's start with the fact that the Senecas demolished the H-O silos. These were Buffalo landmarks that should have been saved.
And, if you think there is not much difference between the Seneca Casino and the Larkin district rehabs, no amount of explaining on my part will convince you otherwise.
What I am speaking to is the architectual design or urban planning if you will - essentially a building surrounded by a bunch of surface lots to provide free parking for tenants and guests.
Everyone was in a dither about a building surrounded by surface lots casino design. In this case, a building (yes rehabbed vs new build) but surrounded by surface lots.
Pretty hypocritcal considering the constant drum beating for density and over population of surface lots everywhere else. I raise the question as to why this is. I don't have the answer but I do find it pretty hypocritical.
But then again I've also been voted down for voicing a regional cooperation instead of fighting over the same crumbs.
I am not surprised by the arrogant its your problem when in fact you are the one who missed the entire context of the question.
Saved for what? An industrial romanticist fantasy world? the silos are dead and rotting away. No amount of festival lighting or festooning can conceal their decrepitude.
@Mark Hitch
You can start with Harris Beach and Kavinoky Cook. Not sure but probably Robert Half too. Those are some direct examples. But you have to look at where these companies would have gone absent this cut rate, shadow CBD. First Niagara in particular (read: Lockport Savings) would absolutely have moved to the CBD as it morphed from a sleepy S&L to fairly large, painfully under-performing commercial bank. But the lure of super cheap ($14 gross) office space convinced it to move to the Larkin District.
Bottom Line, no Larkin District, 600K higher occupancy in the CBD. Typical Buffalo: divide and be conquered.
Makes sense. For every brick laid in the Larkin District, a puppie dies downtown. The only solution is to stop all construction everywhere at all costs.
This is the same developer preservationists are bashing because he wants to tear down that hideous Erie Freighthouse. Yet they fail to realize projects like this that are preserving and repairing historic red brick structures like this big industrial warehouse on Seneca Street. I would like to see plans to renovate and reuse three old warehouse buildings on Seneca between Elm Street and Michigan Avenue. But first in order to make those last remaining warehouses on Seneca more marketable, that hidoeous, unneeded Elm Street overpass bridge has to be demolished and Elm Street brought to grade level at Seneca Street.
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Looks awesome!!!