Ohio Street: The Situation is Now
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Leave a commentThank GOD. Our leaders can't think strategically, thereby leaving it to the grassroots efforts. This is great, great news (a la Canal Side "faster, quicker, cheaper).
It seems merely coincidental that this comes out only day(s) after the Freight House announcement. How timely.
Nice , but nothing will replace the need of a bridge to connect the inner and outer harbor
Bingo!!! This is cool, as an add on. But, let's not loose sight of the main goal, a bridge connecting the inner and outer harbor!
God, there is so much potential with this street going towards the outer harbor.........residential, commercial, already a new park...find money to clean up the softball fields and park area...bike paths, sidewalks, a cleaned up Buffalo River and access...great views of the Grain Elevators......Can we say FAST TRACK....We have been taking this route instead of the SKY way to get to the outer harbor for years now and other than bumpy ad ugly it isnt bad...With the new beachfront and volleyball courts and park areas the vision and potential is endless....Now we need new jobs to come into there area, young people etc...I guess thats the hard part......
The one thing I would change is the moderator. Shibley is frozen in time and I would be concerned about him steering the conversation toward a very familiar place. Also, Shibley has his hand in every large scale design and planning initiative locally. Can we please switch it up a bit? If we can't get someone local, bring in someone from Toronto or New York.
Could not agree more. Shibley is a huge contributor to the stagnation in Buffalo's architecture scene.
I'd hate to see him co-opt this, very exciting, movement.
couldn't disagree more. Shibley is exceptionally competent.
He has been leading the charge for more urban, European style development downtown for decades. He can't force change by himself, but he's illuminated the path numerous times. All you who desire parking ramps disguised by storefronts and apartments or offices, for example, should see his plans 20 years ago for the M&T parking lot between St. Michael's and Chippewa. And he's presented many other ideas, one example of which is mimicking old city centers (narrow, winding pedestrian oriented streets between rows of shops in multistory multi-use buildings) in new developments downtown. He been a champion of many types of traffic calming. These are only a few that I'm familiar with. He has a ton of credibility (and not just because he's the dean of the architecture school).
In my experience, Shibley truly 'gets it' when it comes to the pedestrian experience and urban sensibility. Plus he's a very good moderator by temperament.
Its great that we have moved on from the old Buffalo approach to development and urbanism,and Shibley certainly helped Buffalo make that change, but now is not the time to become entrenched again in another way of thinking. I do not see how we benefit from having one man (and a very political one) dominate urban design the way Shibley does.
Gave you a thumbs up because I can agree that he is the first and only choice usually, and there ought to be others cultivated. He does do this kind of thing a lot.
But I don't see him as political. He seems to have a good working relationship with whoever is in charge, be it Brown or Masiello before him, or various Common Council members, but working with whoever is in charge politically is not in itself political. I don't know his political agenda. I'm not even sure how designing a street could be construed as political in nature. Perhaps you would helpfully expand your criticism and explain what you mean when you characterize Shibley as too political.
Love this! Ohio Street really does have some great potential!
ohio street is fascinating. what makes it so compelling is its industrial past. it was never an ornamental avenue of leisure, it was a place of blood, sweat, tears, noise, machines, trains, ships, and hard work.
that is why i am disappointed by the tree-lined boulevard plans that have been floated recently. must every place look like an olmsted park or parkway? olmsted is a good model for public space but it is not the only possible or appropriate model. sort of like deciding that every neglected building has to look like the guaranty or martin house.
It's good to see someone finally taking the community's input into consideration.
Check out more recent developments and their historical background here.
Community? There is no individual property owner or even neighborhood-local activist on that panel. I have to agree with some unfavorable comments about the dud-ness of this event. The good graphics almost got me.
Also, in the second map, why does it say "Delaware Park" right over Downtown?
Looking at that map, it seems dumb not to bring back the bridge at Michigan Ave.
It's nice to see so many white men get the chance to offer their opinion.
Finally progress with the Ohio St. corridor. Nobody has mentioned the Michigan Ave. route that once connected downtown to right under the skyway. There was a small 2-lane bridge that once continued through. Never replaced in the 1960s. Instead property sold or whatever and given purpose for sailboat parking lot. This access could and should of been used for quick access to outer harbor and what was once Times Beach.
Great things always have humble beginnings. Before everyone froths over with exhuberance about the possibilities, Ohio St needs the basics: decent, relatively affordable housing, safety, and more and better infrastructure. The really good stuff will certainly follow but first things first...
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yes. yes. yes.
Yeah, I loves me some word salad too. Gods, what a bunch of high-minded crapulence. Any time you read the phrase "boundless potential" you should turn around and go get a beer instead, it'll be more productive.
"In essence the transformation of an infrastructural artifact into a seemingly unexpected, spontaneous, and economically sustainable urban conduit."
In essence, that ain't even a complete sentence.
yeah, you're right. how about this gem?
"To envision strategies of performative urbanism that could contain a hybrid of inventive design, and shared public flexibility."
clearly, we have a buzzword bingo champion here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzzword_bingo