500 Seneca Street- Some History
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Leave a commentBurt Rigid Box also has a facility in Oneonta, NY.
F.N. Burt also manufactured the life-sized cardboard people who helped fill the stands in War Memorial Stadium during the filming of the Robert Redford film, "The Natural" in 1983. A call went out for minimum wage extras, but there were still empty seats, so Burt created life-like cardboard cut-outs to fill out the space:
http://www.forgottenbuffalo.com/forgottenbuffalotours/thenaturaltour.html
F. N. Burt also created Chris Collins.
I still giggle every time BRO uses the term Midtown. We have no Midtown, stop trying to be a big city. We do have a downtown and waterfront, but that's it other then surrounding neighborhoods.
well, 'surrounding neighborhoods' are the point, aren't they?
if you could restrain the giggle for one minute (i know, it's hard for someone of such superior sensibilities), you'd see that any time a 'surrounding neighborhood' starts developing and asserting its own identity (or brand, if you prefer), that neighborhood is on the upswing.
if 'midtown' provokes your scorn, you're free to put your time, money, and mouth into some other nameless, disinvested, 'surrounding neighborhood' and select an identifier that you like better.
I'm on board with ladyinwhite here. "Midtown" doesn't compute. Describe for me, exactly, what the boundary streets are for this "Midtown" that Buffalo apparently has. If you can do that, I'll select an appropriate identifier.
Isn't it just an adjective? Granted they have it capitalized. But isn't uptown, midtown, downtown simply a reference word? How about the Midway? Is that Downtown?
Ask the author, not me. I don't know what he/she intended. It seems like he/she is calling a particular area of Buffalo "Midtown" though. The only "Midway" I know around these parts is at the Erie County Fair.
Yeah, I know. As soon as I'm done over here in Nye Park I'll meet you up in Midway and we'll have a more in-depth discussion about the use of obsolete/obscure names for different parts of Buffalo. Who knows, we might end up in the West Village or Hospital Hill. Insane. By the way, I live in North Buffalo (just North Buffalo).
Kewl.
At least we're arguing over an important issue.
Hey, ladyinwhite, what's your neighborhood known as? The Projects?
I'm pretty sure that by "Midtown" some people are referring to blocks of Main a little north of the medical campus - say the blocks each side of Bryant, maybe up to Utica.
I'd bet if instead of Midtown if it was called the Delta Sonic District, then at least more people would know what it means ... although that might be considered too commercialized a name, or too car-centric.
But that area does have a lot of car stuff - Delta Sonic, Enterprise car rental, Goodyear, Monro Muffler, BK and McD's with drive-thru's.
Should we embrace the tragic nature and call it the Car Addiction District?
Or the Climate Change Awareness District?
The latter might help it attract federal grants. Kind of wordy. "Cli-Di" for short?
Straight from the foremost expert on.... nothing?
I boil with seething rage whenever someone tries to give a name to a neighborhood without first getting the approval the BRO "realist" groupthink. Midtown sounds like a logical name for an area in the middle of the city but DAMMIT!!! Some bigger cities also have neighborhoods called "midtown" and nobody should dare compare us to them.
If your argument was reasonable how come there's about 5 different opinions about where midtown is, or should be?
Before replying to him...you should know he's pretending to be someone else, or some other convoluted thing. It's supposed to be a joke, but there's quite a bit of back story you'd have to know to keep up with it, and I don't think most people have that kind of time.
Nothing convoluted or time consuming about that last comment Ben. I'm just poking a little fun at the element on this board that erupts whenever "mid" and "town" are used to describe a centrally located Buffalo neighborhood.
Chris:
The interior shot was taken last year that the Buffalo News.
..should have been up higher in response to 'midtown boundary'. Sorry.
To me...midtown would be something like University South Campus. Its still Buffalo and it could develop into a mini-city.
But what their calling midtown...ie the masten district/life sciences campus to me is still just downtown.
midtown really only makes sense if you have an uptown and a downtown...that just doesnt fit Buffalo.
Here are Buffalo's centers:
Downtown
BlackRock
University-South Campus
Central Terminal/Broadway/Fillmore
Larkin District
South Buffalo
Undeveloped-Outer Harbor
Come up with trendy names for them...midtown and uptown their not.
If I'm standing in Allentown, and look downtown (to the south), seems strange to have the area at my back (to the north), being downtown. Midtown may have too hip a connotation, but it does seem name worthy.
why is this working for 500 Seneca and not working for TRICO?
Thats a big question!
the most contaminated sections of Trico could be demolished for an interior atrium courtyard.
The rest could be cleaned
put me in the category of "dont accept demolition"
It also comes down to money. Knocking down the Trico and building new represents a fixes cost, while renovation does not. Yes, there are historical tax credits, blah blah blah, but sometimes it's better to save yourself the headache of renovation.
But despite the potential for higher costs doesn't a renovated, historic building offer greater opportunity and higher return than simply a new building? Perhaps that's just the trend right now.
I don't see how it does? Especially if the price for both are the same.
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Whoa, where did the interior shot come from?
During our research, one of our architectural historians had the brilliant idea to contact the Burt Rigid Box Company. After a brief conversation with the CEO we discovered they had quite the archives. Derek scoured through a bunch of great stuff and found a handful of interior photos just like this.
The interior shot is actually the present-day kitchen at Frank's Sunny Italy.