City September 19, 2012 12:00 AM

Time for Plan B

Time for Plan B
In a city where public education needs a big boost, there are potential solutions that must be explored. So often we feel that our hands are tied due to lack of realistic ideas when it comes to how to get the lowest performing schools out of some major ruts. Until now we have been offered few viable solutions, and if something drastic is not done to fix the machine, then we will continue to spin our wheels for years to come. That's why we should take a chance and listen to members of the Chameleon Community Schools Project, Inc. (a local not-for-profit charter management organization) who have offered to provide what they feel are potential problem solving solutions for two of the lowest performing schools - East High School and Waterfront School. 

On September 19, October 22, and November 13, 2012, Chameleon Community Schools Project along with a host of community members, will host community meetings in order to discuss turnaround plans for the above-mentioned schools. "There are 26,000 students in failing schools in Buffalo," said Steven Polowitz, a director with Chameleon Community Schools Project, Inc., and founder of Tapestry Charter School.  "Half of our students don't graduate; hundreds drop out before 10th grade.  This should be unacceptable to everyone in this community.  We must provide solutions. There are no turnaround plans in place for these schools. We must act with urgency to fix the problem."

If we are still attempting to navigate the same problems that we have been faced with for years and years, then why not listen to what what this groups has to say? If there is an opportunity to consider a "federally approved charter school restart model" where our lowest performing schools are concerned, then let's at least listen to what they have to say. Plan "A" is not working. For the students' sake, it's time for a "viable and realistic" strategy.

According to Chameleon Community Schools Project "There are 57 public schools in Buffalo and 44 have been identified as "failing."  Following a process outlined by the NY State Education Department, the organization and its partners have submitted plans to the Department to restart two of Buffalo's lowest performing schools, East High School and Waterfront School, as charter schools commencing in the 2013-14 school year." Steven Polowitz also stated that, "The restart model will provide students with the rigorous education they deserve and equip them with the skills necessary to become productive and successful members of our community."

The community meetings will take place on the following dates and locations:

Wednesday, September 19, 5:00 p.m.
Buffalo Board of Education
Executive Affairs Committee Meeting
801 City Hall

Monday, October 22, 6:00 p.m.
Community Health Center
304 Benwood Ave.
Buffalo, NY  14215

Tuesday, November 13, 6:00 p.m.
Belle Center
104 Maryland Ave.
Buffalo, NY  14201

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I always think it's funny. Buffalo has so many failing schools, but then is also has one of the top ten public schools in the country.

Buffalo's poor public school performance is honestly a big reason I think the suburbs are growing while our city is shrinking. People are willing to pay higher taxes for Williamsville, Kenmore, and Clarence so that their kids have better schools. There needs to be some serious changes in Buffalo schools if we hope to attract new families and workers into the city.

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Duh...

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Bflo, I know it's a "duh" thing to say! =P

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The major underlying problem to buffalo schools is cyclical poverty. Until that is fixed, Buffalo schools will continue to falter. Education itself is only one piece of the solution to this dilemma. Charter schools are great, especially for kids who live-in an environment that motivates them to succeed. However it does not solve the underlying problem of apathy and disdain amongst those trapped within cyclical poverty.

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I agree. The schools were one of the huge reasons my wife and I moved to Houston. We wanted to start a family and it was either send them to a Buffalo Public School or pay a ransom to send them to a private school.

There was no way we were going to send our kids to a Buffalo Public School knowing how bad the graduation rate is and thought it would be hard for our children to get a quality education. Unfortunately we couldn't afford to send our kids to a private school so this was a big factor in us moving.

Something really needs to be done about the Buffalo Public School system. It's not fair to the kids that really want to learn and it is also not fair for kids just to be pushed through the system and not get a quality education.

Just another area that Buffalo needs desparate help.

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Really?

Okay, so you didn't want kids in BPS. Fine. But you uprooted the family to move a thousand miles away. What's the real OTHER reason you moved to Houston: Job? Weather? Your spouse's mother is aging?

If the city limits of Houston is 600+ sq. miles, and Buffalo is 50 sq. miles, you basically could have moved anywhere from Williamsville to Orchard Park to find better schools.

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Schools was a huge reason among others. For what it cost to move to the Suburbs of Buffalo, I could get a home in Kingwood, TX for at 1/2 the cost and 1/2 the taxes. Luckily my wife can work from anywhere in the country and I got a job in Oilfield Services making twice what I was making in Buffalo. It was sad to leave our family up there but it was what was right for us in order to start a family. My inlaws already moved down here as well and it wouldn't surprise me if my family moved down in the next year.

Some day we hope to return to Buffalo but unfortunately it won't be anytime soon, things need to change up there.

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Yeah, I found that a little far fetched also.

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LOL...why would I lie about what I did? It would serve no purpose, so you may think it is far fetched but I am living in Kingwood, TX for the exact reasons I stated, you can send me a Christmas card if you like.

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Here's another 'duh'... cyclical poverty and indifference is cyclical. Unless something is done to break the cycle, it will continue unabated.

I personally believe (and I'm sure many will disagree with me) that our schools spend too much time trying to bring up the rear rather than leading the way for students. Parents view schools as free day care and are either unable or unwilling to help their children succeed, much less get by.

As much as this isn't an easy solution, I think that worlds could be gained by extending education to the parents as well as the children. As teenagers and young adults, too many people simply don't value their education... but when they see their children failing and are unable to do anything about it, they tend to realize what they missed out on.

By day schools are there for the kids. But by night, they should also be available to parents, if not to learn history and algebra then at least how to assist in their children's education.

I particularly like the idea of what I believe is called the inverted classroom, where students learn their lessons at home on a website, so that they can spend their classtime putting those lessons into practice under the guidance of the teacher. It is a complete reversal of the traditional lecture-at-school/homework-at-home model. Obviously this is a difficulty for families without a computer, but we are well enough into the 21st century that even this is rare, and provisions can certainly be made in those cases.

All that said, there is also the concept that not everyone can grow up to be an astronaut. We've convinced ourselves that no child should be left behind, while ignoring the fact that wasting our educational resources on the hopeless only holds back the ones who truly are in a position to succeed. There is nothing wrong with advanced classes and remedial classes for those who are ahead of or behind the curve. But treating every student as an equal on a standardized test just isn't the answer.

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Here's more about the inverted classroom. Anyone with access to youtube or facebook can access the lessons for free. School systems that utilize the service also have access to free tracking software so they can monitor each student as they progress at their own speed, and work more directly with the ones who are learning more slowly.

Basically, students spend their time out of the classroom learning each individual module by watching videos and working on lesson plans (re-watching at their leisure if they need or want to). Then when they come to school, the teacher knows exactly what level each student is at, and can give hands-on assistance as required, suited to each person's capability.

Courses range from math and science to history and art, and are even available in multiple languages for students for whom English is not a primary language. Of course, even parents have access to the lessons if they need to brush up on their skills to help their children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khan_Academy
http://www.khanacademy.org/

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The question is: how do you motivate them to tune in? I also think we are underestimating computer ownership amongst this demographic. Many go to the library to access the internet. This might make having schools open later and to the public all the more important.

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I think you should pull some figures up on that. TWC is prevalent in the city.

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As a teacher, I'm very suspicious of the charter school movement, especially the plans to take over Waterfront and East High. Those schools are struggling not because they have both been cursed with inadequate teachers/administration, but because of their student demographics. Many of their students are trapped in poverty, do not live in environments where education is a priority, and often arrive to school malnourished, without a proper night's sleep, and probably sick. Do these make for a strong learning environment?

Converting to charter schools is a copout. Yes, they will probably get better test scores, but charters can also kick out students who might pose a risk to those test results, including special education students. That is a crime if they're receiving public money. I say no. Let Waterfront and East continue. They finally have strong administrations and deserve to operate under their current structure. The only students they fail are the ones who fail themselves, or who are failed by their families.

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If money was available for specialty schools to start up - say, ones that cater to very poor, malnourished kids with a healthy meal to start every day - then those schools would appear.

(Hint - it happens everywhere else in the world, see http://www.amazon.com/Beautiful-Tree-Personal-Educating-Themselves/dp/1933995920 )

Your talk of dropping failing kids just to improve their scores is FUD.

Attach money to the kids and teachers like you will have to work to keep your customers like any other business.

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As soon as any school does better on standardized tests, the teachers will demand raises. If the kids do well, the teachers will never avoid taking credit. When the kids do worse, it's "Fix all of society's ills before you criticize us in any way, we're insulted, blah blah blah." Teaching to the test at least means that the kids learn something, which is never certain when teachers grade themselves and use social promotion to push stupid kids out. This is just as irresponsible as charter schools using their option to kick disruptive kids out.

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Buffalo Rising used to feature more about the Buffalo BoE than just this privatizing v. public school issue. Is Elena Cala still involved in what gets into print at Buffalo Rising?

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Elana is getting paid over 80k to write little post it notes. She was Williams' valet and photographer during his tenure. The video of her and his other overpaid lackey getting nasty with Mary Paciak just show how arrogant she is. Get rid of her and hire two classroom teachers.

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That's why it will be important to watch the progress of the Buffalo Promise Neighborhood Initiative as it attempts to take a holistic approach to addressing issues with the urban education system.

UB's Regional Institute put out a very thorough analysis and needs assessment of the BPN last year: http://www.buffalopromiseneighborhood.org/public/files/BuffaloPromiseNeighborhoodNeedsAssessment.pdf
Especially important are the 14 indicators that have been identified as critical to a student's academic success. Fostering a cradle to career mentality and putting the appropriate support networks in place will be critical to breaking the cycle of poverty.

If this initiative is successful, it will provide a model that can be replicated across the city.

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We need to move back to neighborhood schools. I'd bet my next paycheck that if we did, neighborhoods would flurish and graduation rates would increase to 70 percent in the next decade. If you can guarantee someone that if they move to a specific neighborhood they'll be guaranteed a certain school, instead of playing this guessing game with school selection, I bet many suburban house holds would move back into the city.

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I agree with you on that for sure!

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I think neighborhood schools are the quickest and easiest fix. The 1970's are over and busing students all over the city should stop. Keep City Honors the way it is and let everyone else go to the school closest to them. Let people take pride in their neighborhood and in their school.

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I have mixed feelings on neighborhood schools, I think at the elementary level it makes sense but for high school it would limit opportunities. I grew up in the 60's and 70's and had a good experience from grades 1-6 at a neighborhood school. In 1969 we were sent to a new middle school that was fully integrated, we lost the cohesion and sense of place that the neighborhood school provided but gained from the new experiences of being exposed to different people. At the time it was not very positive but looking back it forced us to look beyond the small world of our neighborhood. This was when white flight really took off and decimated old stable neighborhoods, a sad and in my opinion misguided response to an exaggerated threat.

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That would be a return to the previous method that the school system operated on. Neighborhood schools are a reflection of the neighborhood they serve. Neighborhoods where education is valued and there is active parental involvement have higher performing schools. That's a huge factor in the success of suburban districts as well. From what I understand, part of the impetus behind the busing movement in the 1970's and 80's was an attempt to try to correct perceived deficiencies in some schools in poorer neighbors by sending students to better performing schools in other neighborhoods. The fact race and economic status played a large role in that whole affair is undeniable. Busing and the dissolution of neighborhood schools was certainly a factor in the white flight experienced during that
I think it comes down to what the goal for the city schools is supposed to be. Should there be schools in the nicer parts of the city which perform well, and everyone who can't afford to live in the nicer parts is condemned to attend their local school which may be of suboptimal quality? Or should the city continue to pursue its current model, which seems to skim off the promising minority of students and send them to the good schools in the city while warehousing the rest until they drop out?

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Let's focus on building neighborhood and communities, which will raise property values and bring the type of people into the city, which can make the vast majority of schools into schools where kids from poor neighborhood can be surrounded by a good influence and inhance their chances to succeed.

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"Let's focus on building neighborhood and communities"

Tearing down Prospect Hill is a great way towards that end; and it sets a fantastic precedence, too.

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The problem with that of course is that rising land values tends to drive out the poor, and just moves the problem to another area of the city.

Of course strengthening of a community by itself is a good development within itself.

Though it would be ironic if fortunes reversed and the impoverished all moved to the suburbs, due to higher property values within the city. Maybe consolidation would be taken seriously then.

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If all the poor moved to the suburbs, then STEEL would be happy. Honestly, you can't save everyone and your point that land values will drive out the poor is the worst argument I've ever heard. If we bring move affluent members of society into the city that will raise property values, which will raise the tax base, which will raise services, which will improve the area, which will give the poor a greater chance to succeed, as they will grow up in a more positive environment.

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I was just pointing out that gentrification does not solve poverty of people. Only the poverty of the neighborhood. Im not against gentrification, but i fell it could be an integral tool used to reduce poverty, instead of pushing the problem somewhere else.

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No Illusions nailed it, this is about poverty first, school performance is directly related to the wealth (or lack of) of the district. Until we as a society address this fundamental problem there will be only incremental progress.
That said Buffalo offers many opportunities for a quality education if the parent and student are willing to make the effort. I have four children, all attended Buffalo schools including PS #51, PS #17, McKinley, Our Lady of Black Rock, Olmstead, City Honors, and DaVinci. My youngest just started at Huch Tech, a great school with a solid reputation. My children have all done well and are well rounded, tolerant, and able to navigate out in the real world.
My experience has been very positive in sharp contrast to the simplistic and often repeated criticism by those with little or no exposure to Buffalo's schools.

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Let's see how little Johnny turns out if he goes to Future's Academy?

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My point was that a quality education is available in the City of Buffalo for those willing to make the effort. I tire of hearing how it is necessary to flee as soon as the kids reach school age, my own experience proves this is a urban myth. I would add that at the elementary level the child should be fine in almost any city school as long as the parent is involved.

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There's exceptions to every law, but that doesnt mean the law is any less valid.

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This isn't about a law, just an opinion. I am not a single exception, I know many others that had children in Buffalo's schools that had good outcomes. If the parent is willing to invest some time and energy the student will usually be fine. I would argue those that do well in the BPS excel later in life as they have been exposed to a more diverse and stimulating environment. That at least has been my experience and that of some of my neighbors here in Black Rock. Cities carry the burden of the poor and disadvantaged but still turn out the best and brightest.

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one of the best solutions for a more equitable school system is to establish one county-wide school system. large, booming cities such as charlotte have done this, with better educational outcomes than us. lots of buffalonians have moved there, so it isn't a deterrent to attracting a workforce.

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You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Apparently you're not to up to date with the near race riots that busing has caused down in Charlotte in the past two years.

Part 1: Charlotte, N.C., a Qualified Success?

Wednesday, April 28, 2004: In 1969, a federal judge ordered the Charlotte-Mecklenburg school district to use busing to speed integration — a process that did not end until 2001. Now some residents wonder whether the tumultuous process was worth it: Test scores for black students continue to rise — but school segregation has shot up dramatically.

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But what about this discussion about how Charlotte's schools quickly resegregated after they went back to neighborhood schools, with a corresponding achievement gap? Neighborhood schools are great for kids in relatively affluent neighborhoods, but perhaps not so great for the kids stuck (through no fault of their own) in poverty.

I don't know what the answer is, either, short of eliminating poverty. I think neighborhood schools have many positive attributes as well, but studies have shown that poor children do much better when they are not concentrated together with all of the other poor children, but rather mixed with children from higher-income homes. I guess ultimately it comes down to encouraging mixed-income neighborhoods, but modern housing trends (even within the city) seem to push towards economic segregation.

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The problem you have is that the when poor kids are bused into better neighborhoods the parents up and leave, or move to neighborhoods that do not bus to other parts of the city/town, or the parents send their kids to private school. Look at many areas who've desegregated only to find the segregation goes up because whites move out, or send their kids to private schools and whats left is the same demographic of minorities at a different school, it's just they've been bused in from different parts of town.

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Right, this is exactly what happened in Buffalo since busing was used to desegregate the schools. We ended up with a desegregated city but a segregated region, with Clarence schools being 94% white and Buffalo being 23% white.

I think the best solution must be Buffalo All Star's neighborhood schools that draw students from a range of income levels. You might still have racists and snobs fleeing those neighborhoods for more homogenous ones, but doubt they would want to live in those mixed neighborhoods to begin with.

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up>"the parents up and leave, or move to neighborhoods that do not bus to other parts of the city/town, or the parents send their kids to private school."

Another example is the percent of some urban areas' public school teachers who send their kids to private schools.
As of 2004, public school teachers choose private school for their own kids at nearly double the rate (over 20%) compared to the general population of parents (12%).
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/sep/22/20040922-122847-5968r/
"... Nationwide, public school teachers are almost twice as likely as other parents to choose private schools for their own children, the study by the Thomas B. Fordham Institute found.
More than 1 in 5 public school teachers said their children attend private schools.
In Washington (28 percent), Baltimore (35 percent) and 16 other major cities, the figure is more than 1 in 4. In some cities, nearly half of the children of public school teachers have abandoned public schools.
In Philadelphia, 44 percent of the teachers put their children in private schools; in Cincinnati, 41 percent; Chicago, 39 percent; Rochester, N.Y., 38 percent.
The same trends showed up in the San Francisco-Oakland area, where 34 percent of public school teachers chose private schools for their children; 33 percent in New York City and New Jersey suburbs; and 29 percent in Milwaukee and New Orleans.
Michael Pons, spokesman for the National Education Association, the 2.7-million-member public school union, declined a request for comment on the study’s findings. The American Federation of Teachers also declined to comment.
Public school teachers told the Fordham Institute’s surveyors that private and religious schools impose greater discipline, achieve higher academic achievement and offer overall a better atmosphere.
“Across the states, 12.2 percent of all families — urban, rural and suburban — send their children to private schools,” says the report, based on 2000 census data.
..."


That 38% of Rochester's public school teachers sending kids to private schools is interesting. Perhaps a related factor is Rochester at the moment has substantially fewer charter school options than Buffalo has.
The portion of Buffalo teachers wasn't nearly double, but was still higher (27.6% vs 20%), shown on page 4 here (Buffalo is about 16 from the top of Table 1)
http://www.edexcellencemedia.net/publications/2004/200409_wheredopublic/Fwd-1.1.pdf

Anyhow, if public school teachers who are very familiar on a daily basis with public schools decide at much higher rates than the general public to enroll their kids in privates, what does that say?

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People fail to realize that we might sweep racism under the rug and act like we're above it, but now a days it's no longer politically correct in many social circles to have negative views towards another race. Although, if you're even at a party or a social gathering and one person says a racist or steroetypical joke you'll see everyone's true feelings by their response. Ps if you think your above this I have a challenge for you. Imagine I'll give you 1,000 dollars if you can fill in the blanks correctly....

In local news today a ________ Doctor was robbed, by a young ______ man wearing a hooded sweatshirt and jeans.

A. indian
B. black

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Well, obviously, it's "In local news today a black doctor was robbed by a young Indian man wearing a hooded sweatshirt and jeans." The grammar would be wrong otherwise ("a" vs. "an").

Certainly, people have prejudices. That doesn't mean we should embrace them and accept them as valid or inevitable. We should recognize them and attempt to rise above them.

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Good catch and your last sentence was kinda my point.

"We should recognize them and attempt to rise above them."

.....But, my exact point was that we shouldn't even have these stereotypes to begin with.

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It comes down to what a "good school is"...is it statistics? At the moment the system thats in place encourages anyone with the resources and a head on their shoulders to flee to the suburbs. (Made even worse by the current housing situtation for middle class residents) What has been proven since busing started..is that taking a hungry "poor" student and bussing them to the other side of town doesn't magically make them not hungry and a great student.

The majority of the BPS problems are social issues..I think a great start would be letting kids go to school with those that live around them..walking to school making friends..connections..meeting other parents from their neighborhood that may be able to set them up with a meal or a shower..or a place to crash after school for a few hours. We've seperated children from their neighborhoods here..its amazing what strangers will do for eachother, when they're from the same street and kids are involved.

Unfortunately..the environment doesn't encourage anyone who can stay to stay..hence the situation we have now. Concentrated levels of poverty..and a school system that doesn't serve good students. Your schools would be "better" if where you went to school was not up to chance. Your boundries would change as would your statistics..ideally for every Burgard (which you will always have in a district this size)..you would have a Bennett, which would serve a larger/wider income demographic on both sides of Main Street (thus better statistics)..or a Grover Cleveland that seems to ride right down the middle covering a higher income section of town..a solid middle class section and a lower income section as well.

This would have to be followed by one of Mayor Browns good old fashioned "clean sweeps"..drugs/guns/gangs should be zero tolerance..no exceptions. Ontop of a highly dysfunctional management structure, multiple BPS schools seem to be like the Wild West. I'd like to see school seen as a privledge..its not a right. If you want to act like a fool..fight/deal/not go whatever..the district shouldn't force you to..enlist or hit the workforce.

Lastly, we're the 3rd poorest city in the country...there will need to be some sort of heavy handed "social/charitable" actions (I don't know what those could be) to give those children who have no one to care for them a fighting chance. We (myself included) all have no idea what its like to not have a coat in the winter..or 2-3 meals a day..or a clean bed to go to sleep in. I have got multiple relatives in accademia that teach all over the spectrum and the stories/condition of numerous students is enough to make a grown man tear up at the way "parents" treat their children.

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My friends in the teach for America program and you'd be amazed at how many students show up wearing the same clothes all week, have less than animal like hygeine, no parents picking them up from school, steal food out of the trash so they have something to eat, or have parents show up under the enfluence of drugs. It's sad on a number of levels.

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Your schools would be "better" if where you went to school was not up to chance. Your boundries would change as would your statistics..ideally for every Burgard (which you will always have in a district this size)..you would have a Bennett, which would serve a larger/wider income demographic on both sides of Main Street (thus better statistics)..or a Grover Cleveland that seems to ride right down the middle covering a higher income section of town..a solid middle class section and a lower income section as well.

This is the only way neighborhood schools could work for all citizens. The catchments would have to be carefully drawn to include students from a wide income demographic, so that you don't end up with schools of concentrated poverty. A mixed-income schools gives low-income students the opportunity to have middle-class role models who come from homes where education is valued. And they also give the middle-class kids the opportunity to interact with and befriend people from other economic levels and cultural backgrounds. Unfortunately, Buffalo's historical record in this matter was to gerrymander the neighborhood school districts to make sure affluent whites went to one school and poor blacks went to another one. I'm not sure I trust the current leadership to do any better.

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I taught in Buffalo Public Schools. I think we can stand to risk some ideas and suggestions for changes.

My hunches tell me that there are serious economic and social factors at play. Perhaps they are all economic factors at heart.

And there are other important questions, as mentioned here, including deciding what a "good" school is. Does a good school mean high test scores? High graduation rates? Does it mean students learn what to fear, and what to be uncertain of? Does it mean students have been equipped with personal honor?

Once we decide what we want, there must be a huge body of research to help guide us figure out how to get it, right?

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Regarding turning East and Waterfront into charter schools, I'm all ears. When I first heard of this proposal, I was hesitant, and I had an ideological knee jerk reaction. But the original poster is correct - East, Waterfront, and a number of other BPS schools are not putting students on a path to graduation. I think Waterfront should be given a chance at redemption as a BPS school given their new principal - one that is especially well liked and seems to have the capacity to turn the school around. But I think East is a prime candidate as a charter restart, and I would like to know more about what Chameleon plans to do differently that the BPS system was not able to accomplish. Where can the public access the charter proposals? Also, why did Chameleon not involve the Board of Education in forming their proposals? Most importantly, do the parents and students at East and Waterfront support their schools being converted to charter schools?

Regarding the topic of neighborhood schools in Buffalo, there is no perfect student placement policy option. Parent preferences are almost always at odds with the values of equity, diversity, and segregation in schools. Parents prefer to place their children in schools where there are other parents like them who hold similar educational philosophies and values. Buffalo has a low cost of living. When parents, by the luck of a lottery usually, are not given the opportunity to place their child in a school that has other parents like them, they take the disposable income they have, not spent on more expensive housing, and either put it into a private/Catholic school education, or move to the suburbs. If you drew lines around neighborhoods, and guaranteed parents placement in a certain school, you may see property values rise slightly in North Buffalo, Elmwood, and parts of South Buffalo, and a trickle of middle-income parents moving to those areas to take advantage of a Say Yes to Education scholarship. But you won't see an influx of suburbanites suddenly moving into East and West Buffalo, sending their kids to the higher-poverty schools.

More knowledgeable parents are also aware of unique programs offered by schools in other urban school districts, often magnet programs: Montessori, arts schools, dual language/language immersion schools, STEM-focused schools, and so forth. The new superintendent herself acknowledges that she didn't send her daughter to the school nearest her home when she was young, as she wanted her daughter to be in a French immersion school. Buffalo has these magnet offerings, and some of them do draw in children from all over town, but by and large, these programs are not celebrated or highlighted or really talked about because parents see a number attached to a school on greatschools.org, and they look at the demographics of the school, and often, they run. The Buffalo Public Schools suffer from a culture of pessimism and negative storytelling, and Buffalo suffers from an ingrained/unspoken sense of racism and neighborhood divisions, whereas there are actually a lot of things to be celebrated in our schools. I've had conversations with teachers, principals, parents, and leaders of community agencies who see wonder things going on daily in our schools.

Our current student placement system at the high school level is especially problematic. Concentrating lower-income, and academically struggling teenagers into a couple "good" high schools leaves all those in other high schools with nobody to lift their achievement levels. But the alternative is to dismantle such schools, and send the students in those schools to private schools or the suburbs, and we'd be no better off as a city. Some charter schools have been successful in attracting a mix of students from different socioeconomic backgrounds - Tapestry and EVCS namely. But I've been watching the trends in these schools - as times goes on, the rate of poverty has increased in those schools, and test scores have gone down. Especially at the high school level, parents are now wary of Tapestry's High School because of their perceptions of what race, test scores, and poverty mean in a school setting. But aren't all the kids who have attended those schools and escaped failing schools better off in the short term of things, even if the diversity of those schools is not sustainable?

Regarding East - is the goal in turning it into a charter to improve the education for students currently at the school? How does it plan to do that with the same demographics? Or does it hope to offer a unique program that attracts a different demographic, potentialy leaving former students to attend one of Buffalo's other low-ranking high schools?

I'm the parents of a BPS student who attends a school with a very good reputation. But I've learned that reputation and test scores and the socioeconomic status of the kids in a school only goes so far, and that the culture and leadership at a school is so much more important than those things. My expectations were not met. So much so that I'd prefer for my child to attend a so-called "failing" school, so that we could experience a warm, nurturing school environment that welcomes parents and has a positive school culture, regardless of test sores and diagnostics. There is a small, but growing movement of parents, I've noticed that are pulling their children out of "the best" schools and putting them in schools where there are dynamic things going on - schools that are open to change and embracing parents. There are lots of opportunities to be had at our city's "failing" schools for those with the stamina to come to understand "the system" and who are dedicated to improving the city's public schools, public or charter, rich or poor.

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Many ascribe failing student populations to high poverty environments. And while there is incontrovertible evidence that this correlation is intense, it is neither universal nor determinative.

Many destitute immigrants, for example, with little or no education themselves, nevertheless produce children from inner city failing schools who excel academically, despite the apathy surrounding them. Parental involvement is critical, obviously. Familial values which stress the importance of education endow these economically disadvantaged students with the necessary support to succeed. So the obvious question is: how to engage all those indifferent, apathetic parents.

What charter schools might accomplish much more easily than the typical public school is to capture the attention and focus of the parents. If parents have little choice but to send their children off to failing, indistinguishable and seemingly irrelevant schools, many parents will simply disengage. Choice, however, can interrupt this apathy.

Imagine, for instance, a charter school where African and African American histories are studied much more comprehensively. Imagine a school where students learn in great depth the trials and tribulations of those with whom they identify. Maybe Lincoln and Jefferson are covered in the same detail as all the other schools, but in this school students are taught the lives of Malcom X and Langston Hughes and many others in great detail. I'll bet there are thousands of African American parents, currently dismissive of school, who would find this curriculum relevant and attractive. Engage the parents and the students will follow.

My father was third generation immigrant, entering school 70 years after his family arrived here. But half his school day was taught in Polish. That was his community. That culture is what his parents valued. People care about what they identify with.

Charters have much more latitude than amorphous cookie cutter schools to appeal to specific interests. This appeal is what is lacking in our poverty heavy district. All parents, even the most distant and unskilled, can be attracted to some particular fields which they find relevant. They key is developing a variety of schools which appeal to those apathetic, ignorant parents. That's not impossible. And it's easier to do that in a one-off charter than a bureaucratic institutional behemoth of a system.

Sure, there's a very strong correlation between poverty and academic failure. But that correlation can be broken. And perhaps it can only be broken by developing schools which interest the parents. Even the most ignorant parent believes some things genuinely are important. They can be appealed to. And therein lies hope for breaking that cycle of failure.

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I ask sincerely - with a couple exceptions, why haven't the dozen or so charter schools currently operating in Buffalo done just that - established programs attractive to apathetic parents? The BPS schools have done this (albeit on a very small scale relative to other districts of its size), and either because of a lack of marketing or parent perceptions, parents aren't flocking to such magnet programs like they were when they were first introduced. (Drew Science Magnet, Badillo dual language, Olmsted dual language, STEM @ P.S. 19, BAVPA, MST Prep, Primary Years IB & Chinese @ P.S. 99, single-gender classrooms @ Houghton). They also aren't flocking to schools like the new health/science focused charter school as far as I know. I'd love to see more specialized schools, something to excite parents and the community - but would it really work? Perceptions about neighborhoods and schools seem to run deep. If current BPS offerings are not sufficient to excite parents, I'd support more charter options. I do think though, that such schools would need to be very strategically located (and marketed) - like on Main Street, or downtown, to bridge our neighborhood divides.

Going back to the neighbood schools

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(My last point was cut off above)

I was just going to say, on the topic of neighborhood schools - it is important to remember that currently, most parents do have the option to send their kids to a school near their home at the elementary level via the proximity preference. If parents are choosing other options, why? I've heard the district say that most PreK parents don't register their children until May or June - i.e. late, 6 full months after lottery applications were due. Those parents have less options. Are parents choosing to send their kids across town to a different elementary school? Is the system set up to send them across town because of a lottery system parents were unaware of, and their nearby school filled up before they went to register? I think it is a myth that an apathetic community would magically be transformed to rally around otherwise-mostly-the-same schools in their neighborhood simply because of better proximity. Sure, some kids might come back from the private schools to go to school nearby with friends from their neighborhood, but what about those kids from across Main Street who would be pushed back over to the other side to make this happen for those parents?

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Most charter school founders love education for education's sake. That's a very different mindset than the apathetic parent.

The magnets you cited appeal to those who admire the vocations in which those schools specialize, but none of those programs are ones with which the high school drop out identifies. Very many of those apathetic parents are dropouts themselves. All of those academic programs just sound like more of what the dropout parent ran away from twenty years earlier. The specialties and advantages of various magnets don't hit home to those parents. Try as they might, the existing programs don't reach these parents where they really live, psychologically speaking.

Race and ethnicity, on the other hand, people decidedly do identify with. Getting someone who won't even get a GED for themselves to care about the science and technology opportunity for their child is a stretch. But everybody cares about whatever ethnic group or race they 'belong' to. So why don't charters emerge to tap that? To identify a school as focused on one particular ethnic or racial profile feels politically incorrect, I'm sure, to many. I strongly disagree with them. I think it's perfectly appropriate and helpful.

I postulate that the strength of racial and ethnic identity is roughly inversely proportional to the level of education. So educators who start schools love education for education's sake, but they see education as partly a means to transcends race and ethnicity. On the other hand, lackadaisical parents who ignore their children's education see nothing about academia which relates to them in any meaningful way. But most of them have profound psychological ties to their own cultural roots, whatever they perceive them to be.

There are a lot of education shoppers out there who do not find education valuable or appealing. But for every person ever born there is some thing which is sincerely important, really valuable, whatever that might be. Find out what really makes those indifferent education shoppers tick, tap it, and you can have a successful product launch. I say racial/ethnic specializing would reach a goodly number of them.

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Again, I'd ask - what are those things that will appeal to parents that haven't been tried in Buffalo? There are schools with programs that focus on African American culture and history, bilingual Spanish/English schools, and schools the celebrate immigrant and refugee cultures. I've witnessed education lovers start charter schools, but not believe enough in the school to send their own children to those schools. Teachers wouldn't/don't send their kids to those schools. Teachers in public schools are much less likely to send their own kids to public schools than the general population. I think you have to buy in fully to a school model if you think you can convince other parents to follow your lead. I don't see most charter schools transcending race - across the country, people who leave traditional schools for charter schools self-segregate into more segregated schools. I applaud the founder of a charter school for his or her vision, drive, and determination to create something new, wonderful, and exciting - I'd take that opportunity, for sure! But having a different mindset than an apathetic parent don't always translate into converting apathetic parents into involved ones.

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I am not familiar with all the various offerings of the BPS and some charters. Perhaps there are many more diverse curricula than I imagine. Yet I am unfamiliar with any charters at all that teach half their classes in any foreign language, as was the case in my father's Polish school back in the 30s, 70 years after his family immigrated (and German schools, Italian schools, etc. did the same thing).

There is a Spanish Immersion program at the Olmsted school, where the majority of classes are taught in Spanish. But that is an extremely limited program (25 students total), geared only for the 4 and 5 year old students who don't speak English as their first language and only intended to ease their transition to all English, all day long, which happens by the first or second grade. By contrast, the ethnically centered schools of old taught classes in that second language in every class level, to every child, regardless of whether they were English speakers or not).

I am also familiar with the trials and tribulations of schools like Grover Cleveland which face difficulties related to trying to teach a myriad of students from dozens of nationalities, very many of whom speak and write little English. No school can specialize in twenty different languages. And celebrating diversity is not at all the same as celebrating and immersing students in one specific heritage.

You contend that there are such schools? What charter school teaches African history in great depth? Which teach Spanish history in great depth? Which continue half their classes in a foreign language throughout all class levels, to every student regardless of their facility with the language? If there were a Spanish school where half of all classes of every child at every grade level were taught in Spanish, regardless of the student's capability in the subject, the appeal to Hispanics would ring like a bell. I can guarantee you that my father learned all about the history of Poland in his Catholic grade school, as well as the spoken and written language.

In our case, we live in the Olmsted district and had a secure place for our kids there. Our first born also tested into the vaunted 'gifted and talented' program, but we ended up choosing Elmwood Village instead. The singular reason I would not choose a traditional public school (even Olmsted, which we had planned on choosing) is simple: discipline. The Buffalo Public School system runs schools with horrid lack of classroom discipline. Walk into many public schools, even Olmsted, and the atmosphere is noisy and institutional. Walk into Elmwood Village and you can hear a pin drop (very much like my Catholic grade school experience, whereas my friends in public school then had far more chaotic environments than the strict discipline of the nuns I experienced).

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So are we supposed to give The Chameleons the benefit of the doubt when their methods are called into question? Apparently so. They circumvented what they know to be the established process by applying directly to NYSED where a charter spawned Ommissioner and his second in command Campos have been put in place to further the privatization agenda of these wine and cheese "reformers." They didn't bother with the Board of Ed or the Superintendent or the parents except for the Barber of No Illusions Mr. Fuentes who offers a military high and tight to any unfortunate soul applying to teach in Chameleonland. Neither did they confer with parties in place and currently working with students admin and faculty at both East and Waterfront. Professor Joe Gardella of U.B. asks in a letter to Artvoice why his group was blown off by Polowitz and Co. And what plans the Chameleons have to work with, without or around the program he has in place. Teachers at Waterfront too asked how the Chameleons plan to address the significant number of emerging English speakers in their student population and why the Chameleons don't seem to be aware that Canisius College is working successfully in Waterfront with full parental support. And please friends can we drop all this tartuffery about how much Chameleons, "ed reformers" and charters care so much more about "the children" than those of us who've gone into debt on student loans so we could actually teach kids m? There is no shortage of cant, rant and melodrama when the ones who claim they want to stop all the finger pointing and blaming commence to finger pointing and blaming public school teachers and our unions for the manifest failures currently taking up headlines in our schools. Their solution, introducing a profit motive and getting rid of union protection for teachers is great Capitalism but it's pathetically poor quality education. Please don't lose sight for a minute that charters are NOT public schools no matter how badly their acolytes waterboard the definition of same. They are money making operations like all others whose primary goal is to turn a profit . And in this case they have a very beguiling rhetorical angle to their sales pitch as they claim they are all about children while trousering educational funding and delivering a shoddy product that will produce test taking minimum wage compliants, not decision makers, inventors or leaders. Don't be fooled by their slick salespitch or their glossy Democrats for Ed Reform (whose Board contains 5 of 7 members managing hedge funds) pamplets or their crazy ass Walden Media fictionalized movies. If their cause is so noble why is their propaganda campaign so filled with half truths, obfuscations, ommissions and lies? I think any critical thinker whos education involved more than cramming for standardized tests knows the answer. Handing our schools over to lowest bidders will guarantee the widening gulf between 1%ers, the privately educated venture philanthropists who promote these testing madrassas and the 99% whose kids will be stuck in them and in low wage careers as consuming drones whose education gave them nothing to fall back on.

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Yet another run-on paragraph of verbal diarrhea from Sean Crowley.

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Not all charters are for profit organizations. The charter our kids attend is not for profit. Students are selected by lottery. Free lunch rates are similar to the larger public system at large. The school's culture is decidedly on the left of the spectrum, politically speaking. We are strongly opposed, as are most of the other parents that I know, to the concentration of wealth that defines the privileged 1%. The school may not be run by the doctrinaire cabal that administers the BPS, but Elmwood Village certainly IS a public school in every sense of the word, regardless of the vitriolic reaction to independent schools run outside the bureaucratic nightmare of the larger BPS.

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Today, at The Buffalo News online (buffalonews.com) There is an article titled City schools chief sets graduation goat at 80%, but there is no commenting at TBN now and nothing about this article at the Buffalo BoE or Buffalo Schools on Facebook or even at city-buffalo's BoE information.

This article is jam packed with questions!

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Oops! goal, not goat!

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