However, he simultaneously continues to stand by his statement calling Islam "a very evil and wicked religion." He believes that the Muslim brotherhood has infiltrated "every level of our government," because the president has allowed it. He campaigned for amendment 1 in North Carolina, and perhaps dragged his Father's name into politics in a way the the elder Rev. Graham avoided most of his life.
Instead of "Rock the Lakes . . ."
However, he simultaneously continues to stand by his statement calling Islam "a very evil and wicked religion." He believes that the Muslim brotherhood has infiltrated "every level of our government," because the president has allowed it. He campaigned for amendment 1 in North Carolina, and perhaps dragged his Father's name into politics in a way the the elder Rev. Graham avoided most of his life.
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Leave a commentEach of those articles come from the time period where many suspect that somebody else was writing in Billy's name.
It's impossible to know for sure, but the second link is especially inconsistent with what Billy has said throughout his life, and more in line with the sort of comments Franklin has made.
Yo, is it Christian to say the things Franklin Graham says? oY!
Yo. I, clearly, have to slow down on reading and posting. I ASSumed this was about Billy, and didn't bother to look up Franklin.
Nonetheless, I still abhor so much of what members of this family stand for.
Thanks for giving me a chance to cross-promote yoisthischristian.com
Ask there.
Drew walks the walk as well as talks the talk. He has fed me dinner on multiple occasions.
As a non-believer, I completely love this article as I am generally intimidated by gatherings as such mostly because of the following quote.
"The greatest single cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips and walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle,that is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable."
It is rare that I find a Christian who fully attempts to act like Jesus which (as far as I know) is loving thy neighbor as thyself.
Rev. Drew, I think you embody this and are such an open-minded and accepting pastor. Good work!
cookies- no. the greatest single cause of atheism is using your head for more than a hatrack.
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Great, courageous post Rev. Drew. You will do more to bring people into the church fold (again), than any intolerant hate-monger, like Graham, will ever do.
Some concrete examples of why Graham stands for everything I abhor about organized religion:
-http://atheism.about.com/b/2011/06/02/dear-billy-graham-youre-a-hateful-bigot.htm
-http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2012/07/31/billy-graham-god-should-destroy-america/
-http://atheism.about.com/b/2010/08/20/billy-graham-responds-to-atheist-kindness-with-bigotry-hate-mongering.htm
Rev drew may have more people in his church but so what. It sounds like his church is luke warm at the very most and afraid to preach the truth. There is only one way and that is found in excepting Jesus as your personal savior . Islam is evil and a lie , Mohammad is a false profit and a total fake . If you do not want to preach the truth find another job and don't lead you congregation to hell. Did you not see what just happened in the middle east, Americans were killed and it was by the islamic brothrerhood that was behind it and allowed to take control by our muslim influenced president. Or was it the movies fault? I am not a hater just truthful and I pray for the lost everyday with a love and understanding not known with- out Christ in you life .
I really hope your comment was some sort of joke; but I couldn't find the sarcasm.
If you were really serious and you really like Christianity, then you should start by ACCEPTING.
"found in excepting Jesus as your personal savior"
There actually aren't all that many people that go to Lafayette Church. The number is growing, thankfully, but mostly my theology appeals to non-Christians, and they don't go to church much. Trying to please Christians is a much better way to fill a church. But I don't do that, either. Instead, I try to tell the truth--the thing you say I don't do!
Please tell me what was not true in my article. As for me leading my congregation to hell!? I have no idea where you got that idea.
It seems that your biggest problem with me is that I don't attack Islam, and that I find such attacks unhelpful.
If that is your standard for a preacher, then yes, I do fail. So do Billy Graham and Jesus. I think they make good company.
Anyway, I am glad that you pray for "the lost." I pray for them, too, and I also actually spend time with them and get to know them. They don't like being called "lost," but many are genuinely interested in Jesus even if they are turned off by Christians concerned more with attacking Islam than loving their neighbor.
Drew first of all I want to commend you for the good it seems you are doing in the community and it sounds like you truly are a caring person and I agree with you trying to reach the none Christians , remember it is the sick that need the physician . When you say they don't like to be called lost , remember we are all born lost and sinners and need a Saviour and it is only by excepting Christ that we can receive eternal life, there is no other way. I hope that is also what you believe. As far as what I don't think you are being truthful about is islam and the Muslim religion is evil because it points away from Jesus , he is the only way . It is not the people in different faiths it is their misguided religion that I dislike because it is a false teaching . You also said you hope that people at the rock the lakes that except Christ do not forget it when the leave the stadium, you can not lose your salvation because it was a gift and Jesus paid the price on the cross all you have to do is except the free gift. As far as what your church teaches and believes I wish I knew more and I visited your web site and could only find out things like how to go about getting married there or where the church was located. Nothing about salvation or even the mention of Christ. Just want to say that I think all religion is man -made and leads people straight to hell. Hell will be full of good people that rejected Christ.
Thanks.
I know that we have all been "lost," but the people hearing it haven't.
I never said anything about Islam, except that I wish F. Graham hadn't said what he said. Regardless of the truth (or mistruth) of the statement, it only serves to heighten the conflict between the West and Islam. It does not bring anybody closer to Jesus, Christian or Muslim, it is simply not helpful.
As for the question of whether salvation can be lost, I happen to agree with you, but I also believe that there is more to the change then the prayer that may or may not be said at the end of the event. We probably also disagree about what salvation actually IS, but that would take us WAY off topic.
As for the website--it used to have quite a bit more about Jesus, but I've stripped it down. I want to invite people to be discipled in person. I wouldn't go so far as to say it is impossible via the web, but I would say that it isn't what we are about right now.
We also don't do the "statement of faith" or other things that people sometimes put on church websites, because only Christians tend to care about those things. I'm really not interested in using the webpage to start arguments with other Christians or to take people out of other churches.
We do belong to the Presbyterian Church (USA). That means that I, along with every other officer, states that we "receive and adopt the essential tenets of the Reformed faith as expressed in the confessions of our church."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Confessions
Rev drew may have more people in his church but so what. It sounds like his church is luke warm at the very most and afraid to preach the truth. There is only one way and that is found in excepting Jesus as your personal savior . Islam is evil and a lie , Mohammad is a false profit and a total fake . If you do not want to preach the truth find another job and don't lead you congregation to hell. Did you not see what just happened in the middle east, Americans were killed and it was by the islamic brothrerhood that was behind it and allowed to take control by our muslim influenced president. Or was it the movies fault? I am not a hater just truthful and I pray for the lost everyday with a love and understanding not known with- out Christ in you life .