City Living: 504 Washington Street
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Leave a commentThis is really pretty shameless self-promo. I question BRO's taste on this post.
"self-promo?"
Wouldn't that be if BR was promoting it's self? This is promoting a developer and a realtor. So it may be considered shameless but it certainly can't be considered self.
It was co-written by the listing agent, that's self-promotion
I hear there are some pretty exciting things happening at 506 ;)
Tell me more! I'd love to hear about how 506 Washington is the hot hip place for young adults to live. You can walk to work downtown and it's close to The Chip Strip for happy hour! What's not to love about 506 Washington?
Sure NorthBuf...I am a young professional but I'm not really a chip strip guy...I'm more a Pan Am/Mike A's type. But downtown is a great place to live. Like others say it's a bit of a frontier but it's changing as these units and others like it get bought or leased. I'm happy to take the risk of being one of the early adopters.
So you see this properties as investments? That's great, imagine the return you'd get when you move up in a couple years, awesome way to build some equity. Real estate, the only sure fire investment these days
I'm reposting my comments from the last time this property was featured:
This is so unfortunate. While the concept for this building doesn't appease every critic (read: no first-floor commercial space), I think that it truly had potential. I don't think Sylvestri is to blame. The bones were already there; the layout works for me, with the exception of tandem parking––that could be tricky.
Where this project went awry is Eran Epstein and E Square Capital. I think he deserves some credit for investing in Buffalo, but every one of his projects are executed with only profit in mind. The building across the street, Holling Place, was decent when it first opened, but the cob-job quality and poor management have quickly turned that building into a derelict tenement.
Let's turn our sites to their property at Elmwood and Lafayette. It's a disgrace to the rest of the neighborhood yet they do nothing to maintain it.
Who do you think built out these units? I'm willing to wager it's the same cob-jobbers who've done the rest of E Square's construction, and certainly not worth the asking price. And that's not even considering the finishes? You can throw granite counter tops on a builders-grade kitchen, but it's still going to look like a builders-grade kitchen. Prefab builders-grade bathroom vanities from Home Depot look especially terrible in what could have been very f'ing cool bathrooms. Hell, Ikea would have looked better here. I'm willing to wager that the vinyl siding in the back "patio" was slapped over brick that is in need of desperate repair.
I might have seriously entertained purchasing one of these condos. The combination of rental income and potential for a really cool loft aesthetic are both unique to Buffalo. There is clearly no understanding or appreciation for quality and aesthetics, or Eran and E Square must take the rest of Buffalo for complete fools.
I think they should have put these units on the market for far less, without any of the finishes or fixtures and let the owners select them. Or, take some lessons from Rocco Termini's designers.
Who is going to buy these?!
So....
when are we all being invited over for a party, 506?
Imagine what that'd be like?? I don't think I'd want the lot of ya nitpicking my industrial interior design choice (my current thoughts) and telling me I should've went with french provincial or some nonsense. It'd be hilarious though lol.
There are ownership opportunities in 100K's, but the units are smallish, might have parking limitations and in less demand areas, but that is the process of entering home ownership.
I also really wouldn't trust E^2's build quality. Their properties all look like and are maintained like crap. ie. Elmwood and Lafyette
You are correct NorthBuf. I have seen the work inside these units and it is quite cheap from the bathroom fixtures to the doors and hardware. For the amount of money they are asking for I would expect better finishings throughout.
As for their other properties.........like the one on Elmwood between Bryant and Summer......my god!!! It is appalling. They should be embarrassed by it's appearance.
Right on. The exterior work they did and ongoing (lack of) maintenance at the property at Elmwood and Lafayette is shameful. I would have no confidence purchasing a property like this from them. And the first floor facade of these things continues to display their total cheapness and lack of care about any kind of quality or aesthetic detail. I can't see these things selling.
I write this fully realizing that renovation is not for everyone but, assuming income levels for those wishing to reside in the City of Buffalo may hover around 30K-35K, why not look into buying one of Buffalo’s abundance of housing stock?
For instance, I have not heard a word about Coe Place in ages and I know there are still homes available on that street.
In addition, moving into a neighborhood still in the renovation stages containing homes that I would consider more adaptable (being smaller in square footage than the tradition Buffalo homes that average 3000 square feet or more) would be ideal for a young, middle aged or even empty-nester urban professional.
Brand new or totally renovated is nice but if you do not have the funds to step into such accommodations perhaps a place in need of some TLC…
Just a thought and maybe not a good one for the majority….
That's my method! It's working great I may add!
Ironic...as these cost 350K, yet my post WWII 4 bedroom Cape in the Town of Tonawanda that includes a huge enclosed patio attached to garage and deep lot only cost me $82,500...and those "fancy" exterior lights above the garage doors and man doors...I self installed those on my home (like that style)...think $13.99 I paid for at Lowes. The deck light (which is the second light from the right) on the exterior garage picture...$9.99 at Lowes.
I mean cool interior space...but no way would I trade what I have for this at those prices. Just not realistic to myself
Exactly! That's my point about the cheapness. The finishings are not highend at all and do not demand this sort of price. The sink unit in the bathroom can be bought at Home Depot for around $500.
Eran Epstein is one of the most awful "developers" and landlords and, according to past BRO commenters, neighbors, you could ever have. I had the misfortune of having to deal with him years ago and he is, simply put, just a horrible person all around. His work is shoddy and profit driven, and anyone who thinks he is interested in the revitalization of this city should think again.
BRO should be ashamed for continuing to promote "developers" and "investors" like Epstein, and Matt Sabuda (who has been notably absent from this site since he was called out on his derelict properties).
The world needs more Rocco Termini's, not people like Epstein.
Agreed.
In a former life, I was a tenant of one of his buildings and he is without a doubt, one of the most 'odoriferous vermin that nature has ever suffered to crawl upon the Earth,' if I may take a page from Gulliver.
There's Rocco Termini, then there's Carl Paladino and Croce, then there's Uniland, then there's about 75 feet of horse crap, then there's Eran Epstein.
It is obvious when so many of the same people continue to make the same negative comments that you really do not know the background, facts or details surrounding this piece of property. It is also amusing. Get with it! Realize that it will only take local, personal investment, and probably sacrifice to create critical mass, increase property values, and continue to grow progressively as a city. This double townhome will be owner occupied, and it will be a Buffalonian purchasing it. Hopefully a "like minded," urban dweller will be a good, happy tenant. In time, especially when vehicular traffic returns to the 500 Block of Main Street, there will be resurgence. It may be a "longer than wanted" turnaround, but it will happen.
It is obvious when so many of the same people continue to make the same negative comments that you really do not know the background, facts or details surrounding this piece of property. Get with it! Realize that it will only take local, personal investment, and probably sacrifice to create critical mass, increase property values, and continue to grow progressively as a city. This double townhome will be owner occupied, and it will be a Buffalonian purchasing it. Hopefully a "like minded," urban dweller will be a good, happy tenant. In time, especially when vehicular traffic returns to the 500 Block of Main Street, there will be resurgence. It may be a “longer than wanted” turnaround, but it will happen.
I think its awesome to hear about all kinds of new things going on in our city-whether its personally relevant to myself or not. These spaces are beautiful and will most definitely be filled by someone! I would have never known about them if I didn't hear it here.
Stop complaining. Its like we tell the children-if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
Seems like they cut a lot of corners in the details. Relying on the exposed brick and ductwork to make it look "lofty". The rest is typical of what can be found in a residential "flip" property.
When I moved back to Buffalo in '03, I lived in an apartment house right next to Epstein's townhouse. Our paths never crossed directly, but I remember him coming off as very cold and 'into himself' as a neighbor. He and his wife never made any effort whatsoever to as much as look at their neighbors let alone say hi to them. Isn't he from downstate? Maybe he should have stayed there.
amccar73 – Bull's-eye!
Zamedy – you must have forgotten to include a relevant point.
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Is this an ad? How much help can BR give them through exposure, this has to be about the 5th story on these. I think what Eran has done is fantastic, there needs to be more ownership options in the core of the city. However the 350k price tag should just indicate that the target demographic that wants to own downtown isn't being hit. 100-250k will be a winner, if someone can figure out how to make it successful.
"Living with a middle income, like so many of us has its challenges"
I'd love to face the challenges of these 'middle income' folks who can afford a 350k mortgage.
Yeah $350k isn't exactly chump change. That will buy most any home in the EV, North Buff or even the waterfront condos.
I'd rather live in North Buffalo or Elmwood anyday before living downtown. You'd get more for your money and live in an area where you won't be outnumbered by bums 3:1. Plus there are some fairly nice condos too for the house adverse
Don't you realize that by people moving down there it will raise that bull headed ration of yours.. its easy to bitch about the ratio and not do anything to counter it. It's just going to have to be the younger generations who are not AS jaded as the older to move in and clean up the years of neglect and negative attitudes.. rust belt revival yalls, rust belt revivals.
Yes...350k buys a lot of house but EV, North Buffalo, waterfront and downtown housing stock and market couldn't be different. Each has their own unique characteristics...it's just one of the many reasons to love Buffalo and all that it offers.
I wasn't knocking the price of these particular townhomes or the location, and I live downtown too so I get it. I was merely pointing out that $350k is not a typical middle class price point. This article makes it sound as if spending that kind of scratch is no big deal for middle class income folks and that this is a great deal for anyone home searching downtown.
Looks like I have been priced out of another zip code. But they are nice looking. Someone will buy them.
The worst part is that Eran Epstein is a major d-bag, which also happens to have bear feces in it.
This is a pretty crappy build for the price.
- No back splash. Come on. It's like 4 sq feet.
- The fridge overlaps the door.
- The ductwork has no trim.
- The ductwork runs randomly across the ceiling when a soffit would have been better.
- Glass block tile in the shower? Is this 1993?
This looks like a Home Depot special.
Here's the arithmetic (or how a middle income person can afford this purchase):
Home price: $350,000
Down payment: $12,250 (3.5% - FHA 30 year loan)
Interest rate: 3.5%
Principal and interest: $1,517/mo
Property taxes: $328/mo (estimated)
Homeowners insurance: $67/mo (estimated)
Mortgage insurance: $276/mo (estimated)
Total Monthly Payment: $2,187
If the rent is 1500 (smaller unit) the owner's share is $687 per month. If the rent is 2000 (larger unit) it's only $187.
Rent both units and the owner clears $1313 (minus some minimal operating expenses) per month positive cash flow - a very good investment and likely to build equity as well!