Regional August 24, 2012 6:27 PM

Things are Looking Up for the Bethlehem Steel Administration Building

Things are Looking Up for the Bethlehem Steel Administration Building

The Bethlehem Steel Administration building is going to be standing for at least another 90 days in an attempt to determine if the historic structure can be saved and rehabilitated. Preservationists and community activists have been hard at work convincing the owners and the City of Lackawanna to reconsider the demolition in favor of rehabilitation. Yesterday, Judge Kenneth F. Case granted a stay of demolition to owners, Gateway Trade Center.

Local activist and blogger, David Torke, has been instrumental in the discussions to save the building and consider reuse. Torke was the person who first spotted the demolition equipment on site several months ago. Working through his various networks he was able to assemble a team to spread the word and protest the city's decision to force the demolition of the structure.

Danielle Huber, chairperson of the Lackawanna Industrial Heritage Group (LIHG), is ecstatic about the stay of demolition and recognizes the need for a strategic plan. "Within the next 90 days it would be ideal to stabilize the components of the building that meet the historic criteria and button it up properly for the winter months," said Huber, "As well as developing a thorough reuse plan and allocate grant monies being offered."

The LIHG is a group of concerned citizens who urge leaders to act now for the implementation of historic preservation ordinances. They will be working with Lackawanna officials to make the city a Certified Local Government.

Owners were originally planning to use grant money from New York State to offset the costs of the expensive demolition. However, the money was intended for rehabilitation and the funds could not be used for demolition. Once Elizabeth Martin of the State Historic Preservation Office walked through the building, it was determined the building was definitely eligible for National Register listing and needs to have the structure evaluated to see if it is sound.

The conversation around the building has taken a complete turn from a definite demolition to evaluating rehabbing the structure. Historic tax credits may bring the project online as discussions continue between the owners, Torke, the City of Lackawanna, and preservation consultant, Jason Yots.

If you'd like to see some fantastic photos of the building, historic and current, check out this link to the Administration Building Facebook photography page.

Entry Image courtesy of the Steel Plant Museum via David Torke of fixBuffalo.

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Good news. Its ridiculous that they would demolish the building just to demolish it. There is tons of open land around it. At least save the facade.

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Fantastic news

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I wonder if it's ok to ask anything like this….

Are activists and others who want for this building to be saved using this extra time period to try raising funds to buy, own, and mothball it (like the Central Terminal volunteer group has been doing with the CT for years now)?

Or instead is the plan to just raise awareness via protest & social media but otherwise sit back while hoping taxpayers will save it or that a savior will suddenly appear out of thin air - and then cry about unfairness if neither of those happen?

How much $ has been chipped in so far by people who are willing to take responsibility and own the Bethlehem building as a non-profit group and work at stabilizing, mothballing, etc, CT-style?

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Ah the old "it is the activists fault, not the neglectful owner" argument.

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yes, it is peculiar how quickly the public is willing to shift responsibility for a long-neglected structure from the owner(s) to everyone who objects to the neglect, as though neglect is a protected right.

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Well, I would say it's unfair to dismiss this as a case of a neglectful owner. The Buffalo News had said that the owners are the ones seeking to see whether the building can be restored and who managed to obtain the 90 extension on it. It has always seemed apparent that the owners really had no particular plan for the place, but were content to let it sit there unmolested. The city of Lackawanna is the one who pushed for demolition on the grounds of public safety.
I think Whatever raises a valid point. If it is determined that the place is viable and can be restored, it's going to take a lot of money and effort. I don't see where he's blaming the activists. He seems to be pointing out that if a concerted effort isn't made to save this building, it likely will continue on the path it's on and wind up being demolished. You can't expect that the owners are going to risk being in contempt of court over a building they apparently don't have a need for.

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Well, I would say it's unfair to dismiss this as a case of a neglectful owner. The Buffalo News had said that the owners are the ones seeking to see whether the building can be restored and who managed to obtain the 90 extension on it. It has always seemed apparent that the owners really had no particular plan for the place, but were content to let it sit there unmolested. The city of Lackawanna is the one who pushed for demolition on the grounds of public safety.
I think Whatever raises a valid point. If it is determined that the place is viable and can be restored, it's going to take a lot of money and effort. I don't see where he's blaming the activists. He seems to be pointing out that if a concerted effort isn't made to save this building, it likely will continue on the path it's on and wind up being demolished. You can't expect that the owners are going to risk being in contempt of court over a building they apparently don't have a need for.

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for one thing, you cannot form a not-for-profit restoration corporation (like central terminal) for a building that is privately owned. this was possible for central terminal because ctrc owns central terminal.

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grad - as you know, the Central Terminal was privately owned too for many years/decades.

The point is that for the CT a volunteer group stepped forward willing to go way beyond complaining, and do a lot of real work on the CT and take responsibility for owning it.

Gateway has made clear they don't want to develop this building, just like previous private owners of the CT didn't want to develop that either after its original use came to an end.

My question stands - will any of the activists be willing to organize beyond awareness raising (which of course is fine to do - I never said they should shut up) and also publicly offer to take ownership of the Bethlehem building and do something similar as the huge amount of volunteer effort done with the CT for its cleanup, mothballing, administrative, raising funds, etc?

If there is a serious proposal to do that for the Bethlehem, and if enough people who say they love it will donate via Kickstarter or something like that, then who knows - it's very possible that both Gateway and the city govt of Lackawanna would cooperate. If a serious proposal to do that is made and rejected, then at least a real effort was attempted.

But otherwise if there's not even serious willingness expressed to do that - if all that's willing to be done is just protesting and awareness raising, blogging, tweeting, … well then that would answer my question too.

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ctrc was able to take title to central terminal only because the city had acquired it in tax forfeiture and agreed to turn it over for $1. do you think private owners would take $1 for this building?

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grad>"do you think private owners would take $1 for this building?"

Yes, if a serious offer such as happened for the CT.

For one thing, selling for $1 would save Gateway the demo cost. For another, it could be nice free public relations.

As I said, if these activists would organize as the CT group did and make such a public offer in a serious way - and then even if it was rejected - at least they'd have made a real effort beyond talk, talk, talk. And it very well might not be rejected.

(and again - talk, talk, talk is fine for what it is, of course)

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I seriously love the Bethlehem Steel building. It's one of my favorites in WNY. I think it's great that they are still considering its potential!

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People need to put up or shut up on this one.

The interwebs just raised over $1m for a Tesla museum in under 5 days.

http://www.indiegogo.com/teslamuseum

All of the people on here like to tell others what they should do. I look forward to a crowd funding effort where David Steel and the like will contribue real money to saving this gem.

Put me down for $100.

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How about the owners contribute the money necessary to keep their property in safe condition and in accordance with the law set in the codes. I never hear any of you tear donw everything guys hold businesses and individual owners accountable for their actions.

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Who are you referring to that's in favor of demolishing this building? I don't believe that anyone here is arguing in favor of proceeding right to demolition. In any case, if you want to hold the property owner accountable for their property, I think that is fair enough. However, this is a somewhat different situation. The current owners apparently have had no need for this building, and seem to have wound up acquiring it as part of an overall package purchase. They have let it sit for decades now, and that has allowed it to survive to this day. Forcing their hand on the issue could just have led to them having demolished it years ago rather than have to maintain a building they had no use for. So as much as I think what you're arguing their makes sense, Steel, I think that things do have to be addressed on a case - by - case basis.

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Like most here, I'd prefer to see the building be reused.

That being said, there seems to be a component to Steel's argument that says every property owner should be able to reverse the effects of time on a building. I own a circa 1850 building, and can imagine the time when it won't be maintainable. That might be in a hundred years, but it wouldn't seem appropriate to hold that owner, at that time, responsible for turning back the clock.

As companies age and die, bad things happen. Pension holders worry about their money, investors lose out, and buildings become neglected. I don't see profitable businesses letting the buildings they own collapse. It's part of the business cycle.

I'd like my dog, my parents, and my children to live forever. But that's unreasonable. Is wishing every building stand for ever any more reasonable?

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A better analogy would be to say that you would love your dog to live forever, but won't bother to feed it on a regular basis. A malnourished dog will not survive--death by neglect; a well-fed dog, which passes away due to natural causes, is altogether understandable.

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The question is what do you define as "natural causes" for a building? Again playing devil's advocate, dogs are companions, even if your dog doesn't hunt you keep it around as your companion. There can only be so many companion (museum) buildings. Does not a commercial building's natural cause of death also include lack of demand? If there's no utility, most buildings will no longer exist, this is why there are so many abandoned houses on the east side, they have no purpose anymore and hence no investment. The conversation of preservation needs to go beyond just keeping the building from being demolished otherwise it is destined for failure.

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It's not just the building you're saving though, it's the memories imbued in that edifice and industry's contribution to the material culture and physical landscape of this region... build boldly with the ruins of the past.

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The Tesla museum should be in Niagara falls USA but here can be more than one ...

Lackawanna should be part of buffalo...but regardless...this building is a huge part of our cultural histry

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Buildings like these just need to stay. Many people would visit to see it once refurbished. Maybe open up a Museum inside?

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Way to ruin 'progress', WNY. Preservationists/obstructionists get in the way yet again of 'progress'. Maybe they can put a Dave and Buster's here.

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Don't hold your victory parade just yet. This building is still highly endangered.

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They/We may sometimes. I mean, keeping 100 grain elevators instead of 3 is crazy. Something like this building on such a low activity brownfield should not be a reason to tear it down when there are no reuse plans in the near future for this toxic wastedump. At least I haven't heard of any.

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Is there any demand for this building? Who's paying to stabilize it? There's a reason it has been vacant for 30 years. These questions don't mean I wouldn't appreciate it's being saved, but without a purpose or funding source, what's the plan?

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put a tarp over it...

Next to the Basilica this building is the 2nd most significant building in Lackawanna.

Lackawanna was once part of West Seneca...and even if Lackawanna was folded back into West Seneca...the Basilica and Lackawanna would be the most significant buildings.

You dont just dismiss and ignore something that is such a major part of your cultural and historical fabric.

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I think this building would make a really grand hotel.

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Sure, if you ignore the fact that it is essentially a beautiful facade mated to an ugly industrial building that is falling apart, probably contaminated with who knows what, located in a highly inaccessible area away from any attractions, and surrounded by a sea of Superfund brownfields. Who wouldn't want to stay there?

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They just built a huge park nearby called the Union Ship Canal, part of that construction they built a bridge from one side of the canal to the other, guess whats right on the other side of this new bridge?

Not saying a hotel is best but do you know what the Bethlehem plant in PA is? A Sands Resort.

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There must be a supportable business case that could be made for a hotel - someone put in a brand new Best Western a couple of years ago less than a mile away on Rt5 in a "highly inaccessible area away from any attractions, and surrounded by a sea of Superfund brownfields"

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I think that's a really grand suggestion.

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new city hall for lackawanna.

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Why not turn it into a Memorial Park dedicated to steel, and more importantly to the men who made it. Keep the facade, and sculptures of the men around it.

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