Re-Imagine Roosevelt Plaza
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Leave a commentTime for "Buffalo Place" and M & T to get the Project for Public Spaces here.
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Plaza spaces in NYC, such as the Lexington Avenue plaza in your photo, are typically private spaces maintained by the developers/landlords. Walk down Sixth Avenue in midtown and you'll see a number of plazas but all of them are private and the maintenance is extensive.
Do you want to turn Roosevelt Square into a private space?
As far as an interesting public space not being rocket science, sometimes it is. The plaza in your photo was redesigned a few times because it wasn't used during non-work hours. I worked there for a short time years ago and I found that it was a popular spot for smokers on their breaks.
FYI there is a proposal on the table to extend Genesse up to Main Street (where it used to be I believe) as part of returning vehicles to the 500 Block.
Wouldn't that basically wipe out Roosevelt Plaza?
If you want to talk about how to design public parks, you need to mention the research of William Whyte. Whyte was the person who totally redesigned Bryant Park in NYC and made it the lively and safe place that it is.
His findings are quite simple and easy to understand. It doesn't take a genius to implement his ideas. All urban parks, especially those in Buffalo, would benefit greatly from adopting even just a few of his ideas. That would include Lafayette Sq, Roosevelt Sq, and Niagara Sq.
Since these three (and probably a couple of others, such as M&T Plaza and the dreadful HSBC desert) are all within a short walk of each other, and so should be replanned together according to Whyte's principles, so that there is a coherence about them, even while celebrating their obvious differences.
What we need is an Olmstead Plan for all Downtown squares and plazas, linking them all with treelined streets that provide shade and flower boxes. Is it really so difficult to connect Niagara and Lafayette Squares with a tree lined Court Street? And then connect Lafayette to Roosevelt with a treelined Main Street? Could this all be connected to the Canal zone and the waterfront? To the cobblestone district? to the medical complex? I'm sure it could be, and it would help unify various parts of downtown, including the government center, the business center, the banking centers, the medical complex, Chippewa and the theater district.
All of them should be connected with bike lanes and offer bicycle Ride Shares to get around, as is the latest in places like Washington and NYC.
FEw other cities in America have such an opportunity and such a terrific structure to build out the landscaping that would enhance our architecture and urban experience.
Good city parks that are used, Whyte found, are actually safe parks. The safety comes from their use by people, and that pushes out the drug dealers and panhandlers. Some police presence is needed, of course, but one helps the other.
We must think comprehensively instead of just thinking of one-offs. I think a design competition would attract attention. The cost of implementing it can't be much more than a few million dollars, and that would easily pay for itself by attracting more tenants to the downtown core, and visitors to the downtown hotels being planned.
You can download Whyte's classic study of how people use urban space on YouTube.
It's a bit dated (Bryant Park is still a drug haven), and it's in B&W, but informative.
Project for Public Spaces is based on Whyte's work. And don't forget, PPS has already worked in Buffalo, at Canalside.
I was just in Bryant Park on a sunny thursday afternoon a month ago. The park was filled with people just hanging and having a good time. We were there for two hours, and walked all over it. On Friday afternoon, I revisited the park briefly. At no time was there any sort of indication of any drug use. Perhaps someone was smoking pot somewhere, but I didn't see or smell it.
I wasn't clear. Bryant Park WAS a drug haven when Whyte made the original video. That has all changed now, and it is safe and popular.
http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/news/2012/08/03/biederman-patience-is-key-for.html?page=all
Biederman Redevelopment Ventures, has been retained by the Erie Canal Harbor Development Corp. to focus on what it calls “public space” development opportunities along the city’s waterfront.
Biederman comes to Buffalo with an impressive resumé, including overseeing the transformation of New York’s Bryant Park from a crime-ridden wasteland into what is now a major tourism and local destination in Manhattan. He has done the same thing with Boston’s South Station, the Kendall Square area in Cambridge, Mass., and Pittsburgh’s South Shore Riverfront Park.
with you completely on the importance of william whyte, but not with the olmstedian boulevard being imposed on downtown commercial streets. it is wildly inappropriate to impose pastoral landscapes on places where you have (or wish to have) intensive residential, commercial, and civic uses, i.e. downtowns.
The through-line among all of this is that the political leadership in Buffalo should not confuse themselves as urban planners. It would be great to some humility among them, admit what they don't know and engage some experts.
It seems as though this is, finally, being done on the waterfront. Let's extend Biederman's coverage to downtown--there needs to be a cohesive PLAN.
Not saying you need pastoral landscapes -- of course that wouldn't work. I'm only asking for a comprehensive landscaping plan to unite all parks and squares in downtown.
If all Main Street had was a line of Sycamores and other shade trees and flower boxes, that would be terrific. N. Michigan Ave in Chicago is gorgeously landscaped, even while it's a totally urban environment.
Small-scale programming - food trucks, benches and chalk-a-thons - are great interim uses for this valuable public space.
However, the goal must be to restore the historic alignment of Genesee Street to Main Street in lieu of an future reconnection of Genesse to the waterfront.
Being an historic Ellicott radial, Genesse provides a valuable connection to our civic center and waterfront from the east while increasing the number of street corners and viewpoints allowing for greater accessibility and activity.
Helen Keller could have told Byron Brown and the rest of the weenies in City Hall that this plaza should've been a priority... like two decades ago. 30k people on New Years Eve is enough of a reason to put some focus here. Instead the city is worried about handing out tickets for not switching sides with your car at 6:08PM.
Great idea, but reference to the NYC plaza above, it is at the base of the CitiCorp center, one of NYC's largest commercial towers. It is directly connected to the 51st street subway station which is the first stop in manhattan from queens and supports the always congested 6 train. Its just a few blocks away from central park, bloomingdale's flagship store, Barney's
Tough to compare roosevelt with the 100s of thousands of people that pass by CitiCorp Center's plaza every day.
And yet, before Whyte redesigned it, it was an unsafe haven used primarily by drug users and prostitutes, and completely ignored by all those 100 of thousands of people. All that was there before the redesign, so it's not about how many people work or pass by.
Design makes the difference.
I don't know, there's maybe a dozen people at the NYC plaza in the photo? not exactly a bustling vibrant space. At first glance I thought it was a plaza somewhere downtown here, it looks the same anyway.
I suppose a good re-design would help, but what's the point if there's no reason to even go there? I think food and retail would help, even transient stuff like food trucks and keyosks though those may not do much good if they leave at 5pm.
Let not the perfect be the enemy of the good. A good park redesign will attract more people. How many more? Not as many as a NYC park, of course, but so what? Some people is better than none.
And those few people make the park safer and more attractive. That encourages businesses to open where boarded up buildings now exist. Other businesses might decide that sidewalk cafe is in order, or perhaps just a few tables for outdoor service. Then, with the park all lively, a major tenant may decide its worth moving in to a large building nearby.
One success builds upon another, and we can't assume that there is a "silver bullet" that will magically make hundreds of people appear overnight. It's all about incremental success.
Remember -- Buffalo's downtown didn't slide in one day. It wasn't a vibrant commercial and entertainment district one day, and then the next boarded up buildings and drug dealing. No, the slide was slow and inexorable, and it took at least 20 years to go from top form to bottom. So I'm quite content if downtown's rebirth takes 20 years. But I think that a square makeover will help bolster things pretty quickly.
I won't argue that a makeover won't help. And I certainly do not buy into silver bullet projects as they don't ever seem to pan out to our expectations, if they happen at all. That is why I suggest transient businesses to help draw people that won't take years to set up, we already have them.
The inherent problem is that nobody wants to be nagged for change or a cigarette while eating lunch or reading a book. That's why we need something besides a good design to attract enough people at all hours to create that non-criminal street presence.
For example, on my street we have a small city owned pocket park. The problem is that people can rarely use it for its intended purpose because its typically full of a bunch of derelicts sitting at the picnic tables drinking all day and using drugs. Without the neighbors constantly calling the police on them they would probably pitch a tent and sleep there every night. Roosevelt Square does not have this 24/7 street presence of neighbors to keep it under control from similar issues.
I personally think the biggest help would be for a few restaurants/retailers to open up right there and stay open later. I think a good business owner would keep an eye on the public space more so than the city will. If they take ownership of the square and kept it clean and inviting with their customers constantly coming and going it would certainly help people feel more comfortable spending time in the Square.
What you describe is exactly what Bryant Park was like before its redesign.
Of course, there is no guarantee that a well-designed park will be a success, but so far Whyte's principles have been implemented in parks all across the US and most have been a tremendous improvement in terms of safety and public use.
The park is designed well, I think it is more location in this case. Having open retail would help with vibrancy as well as some sort of programing. I personally think it would make the urban landscape more interesting if it were still genesse street. As chances come about the city should reclaim the historic street grid of mohawk, eagle and genesse. It would give the streets more depth and history.
We could have kiosks and hot dog stands and ice cream stores and stuff down here. Hell, maybe they can squeeze in a market!
The massive parking lot right near the foot of chippewa across from Genesee gateway needs to become a UnionSquare-ish type of park. Make it a 2 story underground garage with a beautiful park on top
There's a huge difference between being a successful space, an active space, and an inviting space.
Roosevelt Sq is perfect for New Year's activities, but it isn't exactly inviting. Continued development of the 500 block will assist in making it more active. Add some trees and benches and it will be much more inviting, but it will then fail to be suitable anymore for the next ball drop.
LaFayette, Shelton and Niagara Sqs are already on various levels of perfection at being active, successful or inviting... but each has their own unique character that makes them perfect for different people or activities. You can't hold a Sabres rally in Shelton Sq, just as it's uncomfortable to sit down with lunch and a book in the middle of Niagara Sq. Lafayette was built to be comfortable for a wide variety of activities, but lately it attracts little more than panhandlers.
I'm not saying that Roosevelt Sq couldn't use a little work. But filling it with trees would be as silly and useless as filling in HSBC plaza or Fountain Sq with jungle gyms and swing sets. Roosevelt has a character that is currently evolving, and upgrades need to be mindful of that, not simply pulled out of a hat because they look nice in a foreign setting a thousand miles away.
Even London's Trafalgar Sq has taken decades of refinement to become the icon that it is. Those fountains were placed there to prevent riots and demonstrations, the statuary has undergone generations of criticism and trial to get just right. Traffic and access has ebbed and flowed with each passing century. To a city which rarely ever promotes it to host official use, it has biologically evolved to be the public gathering place of an empire's capital.
A randomly placed flower pot or hot dog stand isn't going to do a thing for this place if it isn't added with some forethought.
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An interesting thought- Perhaps as part of the savings from the Cars on Main street in the Theater district (bid I believe was $2mil lower than expected) that some of this money can be re appropriated to this section once work begins.
Isn't this the corner where the Parisian Style diner/bakery is/was slated to open? What is the status of that? Hoping someone can clean up the bordering properties as well.