Niagara Falls Officials Look to Elmwood Village for Ideas
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Leave a commentNice to know people like giving tours of Elmwood - would be nicer if we had things done around here as well- new crosswalks, lighting, commercial frontage upgrades etc....
I just read how some developers in Amherst are looking to build an "Elmwood-esque" strip adjacent to UB. Frankly, I think NF would have a better chance as, really, this type of community builds from the ground-up, organically--and is not developer-led.
The big elephant in the room, in regards to NF, is that a downstate developer has a stranglehold on a huge portion of that downtown's real estate, which he is currently sitting on--revitalization of downtown will be difficult until there is a resolution of that.
Right. Thats just gobbily gook developer speak to try and sell a project. I love that people are referring to Elmwood as the ideal they are shooting for, but some developer can't just build an elmwood. There are somewhere around 25,000 people living in the "Elmwood Village" - and the place has qualities that took 100 years or more to develop. That doesn't just happen because a developer is proposing mixed-use or some sort of "lifestyle center."
Niagara Falls, though, makes a lot more sense to look at a neighborhood like Elmwood to see what they could learn from it. In some areas, they too have the established density and some great character qualities. Once you get past the absolute disaster that the tourism-centric area of Niagara Falls is, you find out its actually a pretty neat city and in some pockets, down right charming.
This article is such a coincidence because just yesterday I was on Wikipedia and I saw this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_renewal and it was about urban renewal. At the bottom of the page they had a huge paragraph just on the failed urban renewal projects in NF. I thought to myself, "How are they going to dig out of this? I guess this is one way but it will take years before they can recover.
the only area this would work would be directly north/northeast of downtown, but honestly they might be able to pull it off. (as far as housing stock and density) good jobs to draw in people with $$ however is another story
maybe with the Italian roots of the Falls, maybe they would have been better off examining Hertel ave for inspiration...yo, bada bing...cuz
Of course, if you really want to learn about how urban can and does work, you should read Jane Jacob' Death and Life of Great American Cities. She also wrote the lesser known Economies of Cities which better explains how cities grow and die and can be revitalized. Anyone who doesn't have a working knowledge of these books doesn't know what the heck he is talking about, so I hope that the NF people will actually do some research.
One of the points Jacob's makes is that urban renewals of this type usually fail. The reason is because when you build brand new real estate, the rents are very high. That excludes startups, small businesses, and local entrepreneurs. The only ones with deep pockets that can afford new real estate are banks, national chains, and large corporations.
Unfortunately, these types of businesses are the last one who would take a chance on a risky investment, and the very types that you want -- boutiques, independent restaurants, and so on, can't afford the rent.
NF already tried this -- back in the early 80s they built a mall, when every other city in american had a mall. It quickly failed.
Here's the real problem, and it's one that is common to all sorts of places, even Buffalo. People think look at a successful region and think if you just copy what they have, you region will become successful too.
Think of it this way -- suppose you decide that you now have a goal to be a millionaire within two years. How do you do that? You do all sorts of research, and you find that millionaires tend to wear $2000 suits, drive expensive sports cars, live in expensive mcmansions in spaulding lake and are always in the office from 8am to 6pm.
So, you go out an buy a $2000 suit, a BMW, a house at spaulding lake and you open an office and sit there from 8am to 6pm.
At the end of two years, you realize you arne't e millionaire, but you are deeply in debt. Why, you wail? You did EVERYTHING that a millionaire does! So you hire a consultant for more money, and he tells you that you missed an important part -- you have to actually start a business. So you open up a store. A year later, the store fails because you didn't know anything about retail, and the consultant of course blames you, and you re ever more deeper in debt.
You can't just copy what everyone else is doing and think that that is the key to success. You can't push a rope. Building a city takes hard work and it takes time. Go ahead and copy Elmwood. In a couple of years, you'll find out it's a failure, and some consultant will tell you it failed because you didn't exactly copy the light fixtures that make Elmwood a success.
That's pretty powerful, but do you have an idea on how they can be successful like across the border? I try to think about it and nothing comes up.
Unfortunately, the entire City of Niagara Falls lacks the cohesive force that sections of the City of Buffalo has created in order to pull off such an accomplishment.
The fact that their own council members had to conduct a road trip to Elmwood Avenue proves that the mentality of having to pack-a-lunch for the commute to Buffalo is alive and well.
It may be more effective if they partnered with the rebirth of Grant Street where they could cheer each other’s hurdles and accomplishments.
Downtown Niagara Falls is not unlike the east side of Buffalo with the exception of the casino which has created minimal development and even those who reside in the section known as “LaSalle” specifically state that as opposed to saying “Niagara Falls”.
Yeah, but Niagara Falls receives over 8 million international tourists a year.
You would think with just some simple planning they could actually take advantage of those numbers to create a vibrant hospitality/entertainment industry.
Yet, time and time again they fail. If they want an Elmwood village they need to invest in things other than heavy industry, so people actually want to live there to be close to their place of employment.
And it there is that romantic air about Niagara Falls. It should not be this hard to get people to move there.
Elmwood isnt just a lesson for Niagara Falls to study.
Elmwood can and should be a study for other areas of Buffalo like Hertel, Main, Grant, Niagara, Michigan, Jefferson, Abbott, South Park, Broadway & Broadway/Filmore, etc.
Buffalo has a lot of struggling business districts that could pick take cues from Elmwood.
But in order to really help some of those business districts ... we really need to fight the good fight... to close some of these access ramps to the expressways. Push traffic back onto local streets as they were intended.
The benefits of that traffic would offer customers for business along that travel route. Customers translates into employees...employees translate into renters and property owners...which creates more potential customers.
Subtract the traffic and the whole thing falls apart.
95 percent of what you mention has nothing to do with why Elmwood is one of the few districts in the city that's somewhat vibrant. The three main reasons are Buff State, Delaware Park and a the best housing stock in the entire city. Other than that you're just shooting off at the mouth. Take Bailey for example. It has mass amounts of traffic that flow up and down in on a daily basis, but for the most part it still remains a lower class/ghetto strip which very few if any motorists will stop after work. That being said the demographics of the Elmwood strip are what makes is special/different when compared to the rest of the city. The best Niagara Falls could ask for would be something closer to the lines of Allentown.
IT's awfully difficult to revitalize a city if there is little or no discretionary income. People need good paying jobs, and without them, you can will have continuing decline.
NF should focus on building a hospitality industry -- tourism seems to be a no brainer. But it needs strong and consistent focus from all levels of government there.
gee, wasn't the casino supposed to be this big bonanza that would provide big paychecks and big tax revenues for the people and government of niagara falls to improve their houses and neighborhoods?
I for one never thought it would be any of that big spinoff in NF, so to me that's a straw man kind of point.
But still it's good that visitors or locals can go to (and locals work in) casinos on the NY side if they want to, even though it should've been allowed for non-Indian casino operators instead of the way our NYS govt agreed to with the Senecas.
Just like progressives wouldn't like to have their entertainment interests be outlawed in WNY, people who like casinos should be able to do that in WNY too.
Niagara falls definitely needs to work on a way to boost their population but they need to work out a way to capitalize on their tourism first. I would like to see them try and get a few more high end hotels on the us side. Once we get more people staying on the us side, then more businesses can thrive in the area.
I'm simply hoping that the Elmwood Village can continue to be like the Elmwood Village. Or will the "Green Code" dismantle much of what makes Elmwood a success. What makes Elmwood unique are the many locally owned small restaurants and stores. The present zoning code allows 2,500 SF on one floor or 5,000 SF on two floors for a single business.
The new code may not give Elmwood that protection; thus Elmwood could attract the national chains such as Panero's, Walgreen's, Rite Aid... that want 5,000 to 15,000 SF and more. Then Elmwood can be like every other place in the country.
Elmwood became a success under the 1950s era zoning code, which had no such restrictions on business size (and contains many provisions that allow or encourage buildings like Rite Aid's, etc.). One could argue that Elmwood was lucky that the lack of investment in the city during the '60s - '90s left it with many intact commercial storefronts, but it did come to its present state without such restrictions.
Has the square footage restriction actually come into play since it became law? Has it actually repelled any national chains yet? Or is it more of a proactive defense that hasn't been tested yet?
Those are honest questions, by the way. I don't care much for national chains, either, all other things being equal. I just wonder how big an issue this really is. The Green Code will be a vast improvement over the current zoning code that covers Elmwood beyond the scope of the EVDS, in any case.
JSmith, I agree that Elmwood and much of Buffalo was helped by a lack of investment that didn't demolish all of the city. Though many wonderful sections of Buffalo were demolished for surface parking and suburban buildings in the 1960s and 1970s (Inner harbor, Elm-Oak...). But in fact Elmwood did NOT "come to its present state without such restrictions".
Walgreens has been chomping at the bit for decades to build on Elmwood (at Forest). Rite Aid wanted to expand their store at Bryant around 1998? but lost in court and on appeal (because of the 2500/5000 SF law). In the 1950s there weren't huge "drugstores" and national chain restaurants. The 2500/5000 SF law was passed in the early 1980s. Progressive Elmwood residents saw what was happening elsewhere and didn't want the same for Elmwood.
Elmwood was a success long before the 1950s. A long gone retailer on Elmwood told me the commercial district on Elmwood developed because of the needs of the burgeoning residential development surrounding Elmwood after 1900. Makes sense to me.
I hope the Green Code will be an improvement - I'm certain it will be better organized. I'm not certain it will be as strict as the EVDS, but I'm hoping.
Oh, my misunderstanding. I thought the footage restriction was part of the recent design standards.
What about Spot Coffee, Price Rite, 7-11? Are they not national chains that are greater than 2,500 square feet?
There are some bizarre things in the Elmwood special district zoning. For example, they appear to ban any kind of wholesale production or catering. They don't even allow signs that hang perpendicular from the building over the sidewalk.
I think if the Green Code is enforced (and that's a big and crucial "if"), a hypothetical Walgreens at the corner of Elmwood and Forest might be allowed, even at greater than 2,500 square feet, but they would be forced to build a commercial block building with multiple storefront bays that could eventually be subdivided into separate retail spaces if Walgreens vacated the building.
Spot Coffee is >2,500 SF. Not sure if they were granted a variance. Price Rite would have been grandfathered because the past use was in place before the rule. 7-11 may not be more than 2,500 SF, but it too would be grandfathered because the past use (Wilson Farm) was in place before the 2,500 SF law.
Perpendicular signs are specifically allowed in the EVDS.
Walgreens when Green Code is passed? Don't know yet. Even if the Green Code allows >2,500 SF it probably won't allow 50 car parking lots. Hopefully the Green Code will limit the size of the businesses, and if not, such businesses will be deterred because of the parking lot limits.
OMG get off your high horse. You act like the Elmwood strips the only place in the whole US that is the way it is. I was just talking to a Medical Resident two or three weeks ago, that just moved to Highland off Elmwood, from Brooklyn. We started talking and I told her how much the city was improving and such. Then she told me how she had just moved to Elmwood and she liked the area and that it was really cheap. I then went into how it's a very up and coming and trendy area. That's when she chimed in to say, "yeah, when I first moved here everyone told me how Elmwood was the place to be and how all the new hip shopping was down there. But, honestly I've been here for 3 months and there's really only about 2-3 stores that are okay.". She went on to say how Brooklyn has 5-6 districts like Elmwood that are way better and she wasnt trying to be snotty at all. It just goes to show you though that Elmwood on a national scale isn't as great as people on here may think. Also, incorporating some national brands and chains would verify Elmwood as a vibrant and upscale neighborhood. Also, I doubt anyone's coming in the city to shop at ShoeFly, but I know personally that if there was an Aldo down there i'd go to that one instead of the one at the mall.
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Isnt this the same type of story that gets printed in the Buffalo News once a week over the past 30 years?