City August 6, 2012 10:57 AM

Location needed for building bocce court(s)

Location needed for building bocce court(s)
Last week Bernice Radle sent me an email asking what my thoughts were regarding the possibility of building an urban bocce ball court. She told me that she had been researching courts in Providence, Rhode Island, and had even been in communication with Providence's Bocce Team (see post). I told her that I thought that it was a great idea - both building a bocce court and starting a league in Buffalo. Just last week I received an IM from a member of the Buffalo Pond Hockey Committee who was wondering if there were any bocce courts in Buffalo. What a coincidence! I told him that as far as I knew there were not any. After thinking about the idea for a few minutes I came up with what I though was the perfect location for a court or two and even a possibility for funding.

After making a phone call I was able to nail down a small financial sum in order to build and install a bocce ball court. Unfortunately, the spot that I had in mind (next to the Unitarian Church on Elmwood) is in the process of installing a parking lot. Go figure. So that location is out. Now we're trying to figure out where we might be able to build a court(s). Amherst Street? Grant Street? We need a location that is highly visible from the street, has some stores and/or restaurants around it and is owned by an agreeable owner. 

We still have the funding to build the court(s). We're just looking for the perfect place. Any suggestions would be appreciated at this point.


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One thing to keep in mind is the piece of land should be a highly visible vacant site.. and one that can be adaptable for several uses.
The providence Bocce court has Bocce, a stage for small acts and a large white screen to show movies on! Multi purpose is the best way to go.

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The Five Points intersection has a vacant lot right across the street from the bakery.

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I believe that lot is owned by Kevin, the owner of the bakery. I've heard that he has plans for that lot in the future, but he might be willing to let it be used for bocce temporarily.

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weren't there courts at the Parkside lodge? there sure used to be.

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There are croquet courts on one side of the lodge that can't be used for bocce. The old bocce courts are currently being used for summer camp activities (with giant tent). There have been talks about getting those back to working order again, but that's down the road.

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That is odd because I've played in an informal bocce tournament on the croquette field the past two summers without any problem.

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Bocce requires throwing balls, while lawn courts use balls that never leave the surface (croquet/lawn bowling). To throw balls leaves dents, and dents ruin the playing surface of a lawn court. The bent sod grass is easily damaged and costly to repair.

Hey, maybe that's why there's a fence with a locked gate!

If anyone looks it up, you'll see that the ideal Bocce court surface is clay, but grass works fine. Then you can do it anywhere - anywhere BUT the lawn courts, please.

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Wow, what a pleasant comment. Not sure if your mentioning a locked gate is an inference that we trespassed on the "lawn court." However, know that the lawn court was rented from Olmsted with full knowledge of our event. In prior years, Olmsted allowed us to use the grassy field to the north of the Parkside Lodge (where tents are now located). Your obnoxious comment has me looking forward to attending again next year, regardless of location.

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inside a pub/bar (see link). it would be great if it had a large garage door in front/back for the summer months.

http://www.unionhallny.com/home.php

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Was just going to say the same thing, that place is great!

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Canalside behind Clinton's dish would be nice.

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Lot @ Connecticut & 14th.

Can Fausto be trained not to chase after the Bocce balls? ;-)

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May get to try my hand at Bocce at the upcoming parish picnic. Apparently it's a favorite of Father Sal.

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The parish picnic got downvoted?! SACRILEGE!!

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The Virgin Mary cried when she saw that downvote. A full decade of the Rosary for the perp!

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I've been saying this all summer! Urban bocce courts are not a new idea in the rust belt. Italian families have been playing bocce in my hometown of Youngstown, Ohio for generations and the tradition continues today:

http://www.thejambar.com/sports/mvr-bocce-continues-to-thrive-1.2737617#.UB_t2KPCSrY

Who are you planning to have own and maintain the court? Would a parcel donated by the city suffice, or are you looking for something that a restauraunt/bar would own and maintain? What about someplace on South Park near Carbone's?

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Not just in the Rust Belt, but even in Western New York. There are bocce courts in Lockport in Outwater Park and in North Tonawanda in Fisherman's Park. They could both use some TLC, but there they are. And you never have to stand in line to use them. I'm surprised Buffalo doesn't have several well-known bocce courts.

While we're on the subject (sort of), I propose sand volleyball at Lasalle Park. I have seen folks stringing up clotheslines between trees just to play volleyball there. The people are hungry for it.

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I saw these in Boston when I was there last week, looked like a lot of fun! The participants raged from 20-somethings to 80-somethings.
http://www.joyofbocce.com/Boston.ivnu

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wino park. the one between n. and s. division with the dead fountain.

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Isn't this what the parks are for? Seems to me Buffalo has plenty of underutilized park space already.

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Google is kind of useless for finding bocce courts in the Buffalo area. Instead, it's page after page of results for Bocce Club Pizza. At one time, my Dad claimed, there were actual bocce courts at Bocce Club Pizza on Clinton Street.

There's a lot of bocce courts in Rochester and Syracuse, but Italians are the dominant ethnic group in those cities. Even Ithaca has a bunch of bocce courts. I'm surprised a venue for bocce is so hard to come by in Buffalo.

In the Cleveland area, a lot of Catholic churches in predominantly Italian and Croatian neighborhoods have bocce courts. Italian social clubs (not the small "allegedly connected" storefront clubs like those in Buffalo, but big organizations like the Wickliffe Italian-American Club) also have large bocce facilities, and often host national tournaments.

While we're at it, how about some dedicated curling ice when the City or one of the 'burbs updates one of its ice rinks, or builds a new rink?

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Just an fyi... when doing a search you can use the minus sign to have Google NOT include pages with a specific word. In this case -pizza would eliminate those pages you don't want.

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that's correct. when i'm looking up buffalo stuff, i often add -bills or all i will get is football results.

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I have to have some conversations to see if they would mess up our historic tax credits, but I would definitely love to have courts at Lafayette Church.

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Any reason to get people back into the parks we already have would be great...Delaware or Shoshone anyone?

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what about the empty corner lot on Allen and Park St, next to Quaker Bonnet?

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The guy who owns/runs Frizzy's Bar used to own that lot, not sure if he still does. He might be willing to have it used for bocce, especially if it means additional customers for his bar!

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There is a nice lot in Larkinville next to the former Swan Lounge. Someone above said we should put it behind clintons dish under the skyway. I was just there this weekend and was thinking we should put sand vollyball there. It would tie in with the sand next to clintons dish. But bocce courts there would be nice too though

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Agree with CanalSide. 100%.

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I like the idea of courts in an active street side location.

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To understand the difference between a lawn court (croquet/lawn bowling) and a bocce court - please look at the photo that accompanies this article!

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While Canalside would be a good choice temporarily (check the lawn article I was first to suggest it!) I think the Outer Harbor would be cool to have some court for all the games mentioned Bocce, Croquet, shuffle board, lawn bowling, could even have curling in the winter.

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Close to all new residential development, close to Downtown, and the legacy of the Italians who once lived here - Johnson Park. There's even a pad in the park that can be used as a base to start construction. Find a grant app and I'll write it.

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What about the Whitney Pocket Park? :)

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Shoot, if it were large enough, level enough, and more visible to the public - that would be a great idea.

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How about the tee to green site along with the ultimate frisbee field that

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public bocce courts would be great. it would also be great to see a bar with an indoor court like Stone Mad's nice clay court in Cleveland ->https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=287839862576&set=a.287839857576.176406.76352067576&type=3&theater

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