City August 14, 2012 2:48 PM

Infill opportunity: The time is now

Infill opportunity: The time is now
Seeing that Children's Hospital will soon be vacating the Elmwood Village, it's time to take a look back at a post that Roger Schroeder did a few years back (see here). In his post, Roger featured a rendering as to what the corner of Elmwood and Bryant might look like if the underutilized parking lot was built upon. The infill would be an important piece of Elmwood's future growth and would help to complete the four corner puzzle (Coffee Culture being a recently completed piece). Not only would it add to the streetscape, it would also bring in more residential and business to the neighborhood. I would think that it would behoove the Elmwood Village Association to enter into discussions with Children's Hospital and interested developers to ensure that this corner is built up and not left as a parking lot.

For those concerned about losing parking spots, this lot has always been underutilized - I believe that it is a lot designated for doctors. Plus, there is a sea of parking on West Utica in-between Elmwood and Delaware (317 spaces - see below). Regarding the parking lots on West Utica, it would also be nice to see a developer restore the street's residential fabric while leaving parking in the back (see Roger's post). Don't forget that there's also the Gallagher parking ramp on the block that is accessible from the Bank of America driveway off of Elmwood (609 spaces). 

There are some real opportunities to formulate a real game plan in the absence of Children's Hospital. It would be nice to see the dialogue begin sooner rather than later. The parking lots in question, particularly the one facing Elmwood, reveal some incredible opportunities to create a dynamic urban environment that is sorely missing from this stretch of Elmwood Avenue - mainly due to corner of Elmwood and Bryant (Rite Aid and parking lot). The parking lots will most likely be bundled with the sale of the hospital to a developer. Hopefully that developer will understand the importance of the big picture and will look at these lots as added opportunities, not just coveted parking. 

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One of those lots needs a huge multi-level gym. The BAC should build it. Or dance studios. Glass windows, so people can see all of the activity as they walk by. Like Alvin Ailey: http://bit.ly/MXDkgB

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Its time to tear down that low income senior housing in the distance and replace that with some real condos!

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i believe that tower is now market-rate housing but i could be wrong.

besides, it puts eyes, bodies, and dollars on the street and it has ground floor retail. win/win.

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Should wait and see what the plan may be for the emptied CHOB-if it all comes down, that corner lot would play a large role in how all of Bryant St. is redeveloped. It's been a lot...how long? No rush, let's get it right.

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If no one is leasing the two commercial spaces next to coffee culture, then how does anyone expect to lease more and other commercial across the street ?
To me it doesn't make sense but that's just me ....., I want it to happen to but who in the world is gonna take the chance????

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It may be that the current vacant space isn't satisfactory right now for anyone, but that doesn't mean that a different space isn't needed.

IOW, if you have space for a store, and office seeker doesn't want it. But he will gladly lease an office.

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Don't buy it ....... There just isn't the demand on Elmwood for the lease price point.....

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CHOB when it's vacant should be demolished by and with kaleida money- then a few condos on the lot with a great family friendly park setting with a basketball court and swings - maybe a tennis court as well...,,,,, well supervised though..... Elmwood village and residence deserve a close park ...... There are more and more children every year in this area and Hoyt lake is to far ......... Let's sign a petition .....

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Couldn't agree more. Kaleida should not be allowed to just walk away from this mess - they should leave it shovel ready. The abatement alone will leave these buildings empty for years. We'll see what "progress" looks like 5 years from now.

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You will need to get past the NIMBY nut cases to have that many floors but it should be this kind of size. This neighborhood is going to need additional population once Children's is gone.

On another related note between this parking lot, the giant Utica Street parking lot, the gas station parking, the drug store parking and the multilevel parking deck this couple of blocks of Elmwood has probably over 1000 parking spaces. More than any other part of the street. It is also the part of the street with the biggest problem with store vacancies. Don't let anyone tell you that parking is the key to filling stores or growing business.

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"Don't let anyone tell you that parking is the key to filling stores or growing business."

By itself, clearly no, not *the* key.

The Central Park Plaza always had plenty of parking, for example, and it was a miserable failure in recent decades.

On the other hand, Larkin-Exchange the trendy favorite on here, brags on its web site about it's "Free surface parking for tenants and employees".
(btw, did nobody ever tell whoever wrote their web site that there's no such thing as free parking?)

Quite a few BR-praised businesses have made sure to provide convenient allegedly free parking - Mark Goldman's Black Rock Kitchen & Bar for example, and also the new hardware store on Summer near Main, and even the soon-to-come comedy club in the Cobblestone District, and others, etc ...

So although it doesn't guarantee success, parking is evidently considered by some customers and businesses in the city to have some importance.

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"This neighborhood is going to need additional population once Children's is gone."

Please explain to us WHY that is so. The current population does NOT include anyone lying in beds at the hospital, yes or no? I say no. The employees at Childrens spend about Zero money at nearby shops (as I recall from working totally dead lunches at a Bryant Street restaurant). This looks like another "tear the damned thing down and plant trees to put some LIFE into the area" case, to me. That, or very expensive building lots.

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It is if the parking is intended for shoppers and not hospital employees, patients and visitors. Everybody drones on about how much they want a Whole Foods in their neighborhood. Well guess what? Most Whole Foods stores are sited based on how many parking spaces they can have. Having no parking puts the strain on business owners to attract enough footfall traffic from the neighborhood to survive. That may work out for a coffee house or trinket shop but if you want the good stuff, ya gotta have parking.

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i agree. lose the faux pine forest at the corner. no one goes to elmwood for an adirondack mountain experience.

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Children's vacating will be a boon for those home owners surrounding the current facility. A right sizing of low rise condos and new home builds will do wonders. It is such a wonderful part of the city, the prospects are extremely exciting.

There is no place for surface lots on Elmwood. It should be one long shopping district hopefully one day continuously from Buff State all the way downtown.

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Children's Hospital: implosion = solution

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Id like to see another apartment tower on Elmwood and NOT MODERN or CONTEMPORARY. Elmwood is expensive and has some of the best appreciation in Buffalo. We should leverage that!

Infill with period buildings on Utica

Put up a period 5-10 story building and put that density back into the neighborhood.

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LOL- this rendering made me laugh. What type of lending market do you think we're in right now? NEW market rate in Buffalo won't work without significant incentives for the construction shown in the rendering. I'd like to see more inteligent articles written by developers and people with construction lending experience - not so much of this dreamy non-reality! Even the simple light-framed and stick-built paste-brick and EIFS covered structure across the street had to receive IDA credits to work financially.

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They're building a three story building not dissimilar to this rendering just a few blocks up near Auburn.

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Jack-hammer the paving, plow a hundred tons of cow manure into the 'soil', and plant the whole thing with native trees.

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