For Buffalo's Grain Elevators, an Experimental Second Act
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What happened to the plans to "light up" another set of silos, with lighting designers from Montreal?
They SHOULD do these things to the elevators to make Buffalo unique:
1) Paint murals on the elevators
2) install the lighting system
3) Come up with a plan to turn it into a 5 star hotel. Buffalo's outstanding developers (Termini, croce) would know how to do that
4) the silo city bee hive would be an attraction along with Canalside and the waterfront.
Have the elevators project their artwork to the skyline at night, while the lights beam onto them at night (when all the shades would be drawn for the guests) It could really be a good idea for them, but this is a step in a positive direction for these former eyesores.
Did anyone go to the fireworks display on July 4th? The only person that saw the grand finale was on the OTHER side of the silos.
I was there, and while not ideal, I kind of liked the fireworks appearing to come out of the top of the silos.
I guess they should come up with a better spot, though.
Speaking of grain elevators and whatever shipping is left here, there's a great website that includes a current mapping of ships on the Great Lakes at any time:
http://www.boatnerd.com/. Map at: http://ais.boatnerd.com/.
Wasn't there supposed to be an ethynol plant in one of these silos what happened to that ?
The Ethanol plant idea went down the tubes with the 2008 recession. It was originally going to have the refinery built in among the silos and use the elevators themselves for corn storage.
The American, Perot and Lake & Rail elevators were recently sold to Ceres Global Ag Corp, who are now billing the entire complex as a 4Mil bushel grain storage facility for their Great Lakes operations.
http://ceresglobalagcorp.com/ceres_operationunit_buffalolakeport.html
I believe that company only owns Lake and Rail which they are currently using for grain storage. Perot and American are not part of 'Buffalo Lake Port.'
How much concrete can be cut away without losing strength?
Well looking at the GLF demo you can take an entire side out and it won't collapse. The Ganson side was torn down and the rest of the structure held it up for months before they finished the job.
With the interior diameter being the same (for multiple silos), you'd think a rigging could be put together to cut out exterior windows/interior hallways. I've read elsewhere that the walls are 10 inches thick...probably more on some?
If you notched the concrete within the silo, would that be sufficient to support the beams for a floor?
It would be interesting to find out how much heating you'd need to do at the base to have it warm the entire structure.
Does anyone know what the power authority is doing at the Connecting Terminal elevator? Looks like lots of work going on there lately.
just maintenance to secure it up.
With the privatization movement moving forward in space travel and its rapid rise, I wonder if these silos could be used as launchers to rocket people into outer space. We could create a space launch pad industry right here in Buffalo.
Problem is that these towers would explode on impact. They are very strong, but they are not practical at all for this. And dust, soot and smoke is another story...I know you are joking too.
The problem is that once we start launching ships into outer space, they might interfere with other planet's traffic rules. I really don't want to start another intergalactic war right now. The last one was a disaster.
Rand,
While I agree I think you are overstating your opinion. The salient issue with the whole moon thing was with the Apollo Lunar Module and its dedicated lane without inclusion of a future Lunar Bike Module Lane. This is often viewed by experts such as Space Metal as the primary reason for moon sprawl which led to the mentioned conflict between the urban and suburban galaxies.
Do these things have heat and electricity, can they be used year round ? What about the Plantagon that kind of made sense here.
Whatever happened to Armchair/ Kettle? Did he get tossed? Or did he stop posting on here?
France turned a Silo into an Opera House. http://www.silo-marseille.fr/
Loft apartments in Spain http://loftlifemag.com/mu/?p=3401/
Dallas has a Rock Gym http://www.elevatorrock.20m.com/
Akron Ohio turned one into a Hotel http://www.quakersquareakron.com/
Baltimore turned one into apartments http://www.silopoint.com
With so many elevators left I can't understand why we don't utilize them like everywhere else that has extra.
On my kayak tours I've taken hundreds of people inside the elevators and can't tell you how much positive feedback I get. They are already a cool destination and Rick Smith seems to be leading them into even more spotlight and cool things.
The momentum has shifted and people are starting to appreciate them again. I'm pretty proud to be part of that as I know great things are still to come.
Please, any doubters come on my tour or come to City of Night on the 8th of Sept. http://www.cityofnightbuffalo.com/
All of that is an article all in itself, but I don't know when that will be. The hotel was probably the best but the lofts, although small, were spacious.
hey, does anyone know how the bees are taking to their new home? are they getting along ok that new steel hive? not every critter adapts well to man-made housing.
just curious, because that is one of the coolest responses to a bee colony ever. most people would freak out and call the exterminator. instead, this guy calls the architects. double thumbs up and long live the bees!
Not sure how you would tell if they weren't getting along, but I have never seen any dead carcasses or anything, so I think they're doing good. Last time I was there a week ago the honeycomb was the size of my leg, which only took a little over a month to make. I'm no bee expert but that seemed pretty impressive since not all the bees stuck around.
I don't know the feasibility of this as I am not an engineer. However for this particular elevator I have this vision to turn it into a recreational facility. Take half of the elevators and line them with the rock climbing hand and foot holds. Seal the other half and turn it into a year round scuba diving center. From what I have read on here you could cut away passage ways and make it a very cool place to learn and explore for those who like to scub in the winter.
Also make the entire outside of the facility a rock climbing wall. Can you imagine the urban and lake views as you climb up the side? The people climbing over there would be great to watch from canalside. Put a resturant/bar up top and you have a full one stop shop place to play. Tell me that wouldn't draw people from Toronto.
While everyone says tear these down I think we can be creative to use the structures for their inherent strengths.
All it needs is some investment to get some people on board.....Most people thought Rocco was crazy for attempting to tackle the Lafayette but now it's a downtown destination.....It just takes some money to get the proverbial ball rolling....Imagine condos or apartments in the grain elevator overlooking Gallagher Beach....Great views with an accessible location with views that would have no rival in WNY....yeah I know it would require a big lump of gold bouillon to make it happen but don't kill my hopes for this city....
The bees are doing great. As JM mentioned the comb has grown considerably and there are probably twice as many bees than were initially moved into the structure. There is great information on the project's blog.
hivecity.wordpress.com
...Or they can all be imploded and the island redeveloped as a tight urban mixed-use community. As much fun as lit up silos may seem, they add little value to the local economy or to attempts to redirect Buffalo towards a more aspirational urban model.
(sorry, nostalgia lovers)
Great idea. Nothing like smelling cereal every morning... or they can remain and your tight urban mixed-use community can be built on other wide swaths of vacant land in Buffalo right now. Of course, no developer is doing that, either.
So why not light up all the abandoned houses on the East Side too? Wouldn't that be "artsy and cool"? Think of the delight in the eyes of the ghosts that wander the streets!
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The author of this story, Philadelphia-based freelancer JoAnn Greco, has become one of Buffalo's biggest fans. We first welcomed JoAnn during the National Trust (she wrote this piece for the Washington Post shortly afterward: http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/travel/the-impulsive-traveler-buffalo-ny-and-its-greatest-architectural-hits/2011/10/28/gIQAFvXhmM_story.html).
JoAnn made a return trip in July - many thanks to Rick Smith and everyone who have opened their arms to her. In addition to this Atlantic Cities piece, look for a couple other stories from that visit to show up in other media outlets in the coming months.
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