City August 23, 2012 12:22 PM

A wounded Frank Lloyd Wright home in Buffalo, N.Y. gets put right

A wounded Frank Lloyd Wright home in Buffalo, N.Y. gets put right
The Globe and Mail has published yet another article on Frank Lloyd Wright here in Buffalo. On August 15 writer David LeBlanc shed some light on Graycliff (see here), and now he's telling the story of the plight of the renewed beauty of the Martin House complex (see here). Not only does LeBlanc describe the painstaking journey, he also broaches the subject of authenticity, which is a topic that tends to generate varied opinions. If you're on the edge as to whether recreating lost architectural gems such as the Martin House complex (partially) is worth the cost and effort, be sure to read LeBlanc's piece. Here's an excerpt followed by an aside:

As most architecture buffs in Southern Ontario know, Wright's 100-foot pergola, conservatory and carriage house have been painstakingly reproduced from original plans - with bricks manufactured in vintage "beehive" kilns and reproduction art glass windows - at a cost of millions upon millions of dollars. This, in turn, has spurred something of a posthumous Wright-building frenzy in Buffalo, as two unrealized projects have also been completed (not by the MHRC) in the past decade: the Fontana Boathouse on the Niagara River, designed for the University of Wisconsin in 1905, and Darwin Martin's Blue Sky Mausoleum at Forest Lawn Cemetery, designed in 1928.

While "recreation" is uttered often at the Darwin Martin complex, at this level of craftsmanship it's not a dirty word. If anything, in (W)righting these past wrongs, Buffalo is showing the sort of leadership that all history and tourist dollar-loving cities should follow (and what city doesn't love those things?).

As an aside, for anyone who ever thought about the possible rebuilding of the Larkin Administration Building, all of the plans exist today, and it could be built authentically rebuilt right down to the elevator buttons. There are some things that, of course, wouldn't be rebuilt such as the air conditioning and ventilation systems, which are no longer needed to filter out the smoke from passing steam ships and trains. Heck, maybe someday First Niagara might need a stand alone administration building... just sayin'.

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nice. not one single helping of snark in the entire globe & mail piece.

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Of course, rebuilding the LAB has always been on my dream list. Whether it could ever be a reality depends upon quite a few variables. Cost, of course, is a primary question. Then usage -- would it be a workable office building today? Or better as a non-profit museum? Where would it be built -- same place, or downtown, or elsewhere? Will its location affect it's viability? Would it's construction qualify for historic tax credits? What compromises would have to be made for present day codes and employee needs?

All these questions need to be addressed before you think about finding a builder.

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i've said it before and i keep on saying it! a building must be at least 50 years old (plus other criteria established by the national register) before it qualifies for preservation tax credits.

new builds, regardless of how well they might imitate something from the past, do. not. qualify.

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Well, then, that answer that question.

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How about an archaeological dig in Father Conway Park? Maybe some of the original components could be reused? That would make it a restoration rather than a reconstruction.

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Visit Buffalo Niagara was proud to host Dave LeBlanc a few weeks ago.

He had a great experience and it shows in the two stories that he wrote for the Globe & Mail. As always, thank you to everyone who welcomed him to Buffalo!

For the last two years, VBN has been executing a targeted marketing & PR camapign in Ontario, resulting in additional stories in the Toronto Star, Toronto Sun, Canadian Gardening and other major outlets.

Peter Burakowski
Communications Manager
Visit Buffalo Niagara

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As an aside, for anyone who ever thought about the possible rebuilding of the Larkin Administration Building, all of the plans exist today, and it could be built authentically rebuilt right down to the elevator buttons. There are some things that, of course, wouldn't be rebuilt such as the air conditioning and ventilation systems, which are no longer needed to filter out the smoke from passing steam ships and trains. Heck, maybe someday First Niagara might need a stand alone administration building... just sayin'.

You're nuts.

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Well I sure hope Mr. Koelmel is nuts. And Mr. Zemsky. Both First Niagara and Zemsky cohort have shown vision, passion and the wherewithal to make Larkinville happen. We will continue to dream...they make it happen.

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Tahooter, renovation is one thing and I'm glad to see every article on BRO that announces a saved structure. I also like the FLW Blue Sky mausoleum at Forest Lawn and the the boat house at the waterfront. These were relatively small projects built with an intended use.

However much I lament that the Larkin building no longer stands, it's foolhardy to rebuild such an edifice. Recreate and entire office building when Buffalo abounds in empty square footage? I don't get it.

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"… There are some things that, of course, wouldn't be rebuilt such as the air conditioning and ventilation systems, which are no longer needed to filter out the smoke from passing steam ships and trains. ...

You're nuts."

Hey, it easily could've been even nuttier - the idea might have also included authentically recreating those steam ships and train lines. No doubt plans for all those still exist too. That way, the rebuilt LAB can have authentic a/c and ventilation systems with real smoke filtering work to do!

We can get this area back to the 1930s as much as possible. It's feasible, plenty of studies have been done...

Maybe someone could ask First Niagara to be good locals and please fund it all, lol

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And a new subway line to the front door to help all the commuters.

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nuts indeed and totally unaware about the cost.

replied to PaulBuffalo
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Since there was a missing unrealized project since completed I'll plug it; The Pearce Arrow Museum Wright gas station. I am sure this was an oversite by the Globe and Mail author who was notified of the missing piece by VBN who I am sure was treated to an advance copy for fact checking. Jouralists these days.

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About the last paragraph: ever seen the Woody Allen classic, Sleeper? In the future, terrorists blow up the prime minister -- all that's left is his nose, which is preserved so that they can recreate him. Well, there's a pier remaining from the Larkin Admin Bldg, and it's been preserved. Think of it as the prime minister's nose...

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Nice article and kudos to the MHRC. As far as the Larkin Administration Building, I wouldn't want to see that built anytime soon. That price tag that will dwarf the $50 million estimated to renovate the Martin House.

With a limited number of public and private dollars to support renovations and expansions by existing area attractions, I would rather see attention be given to the Buffalo Zoo to complete their new polar bear exhibit, the new childrens Explore & More museum, much needed updates to the Museum of Science (which desparately needs an update beyond hosting traveling exhibits IMO) or continued improvements at Canalside. If money has to go to a Wright project, support the completion of Graycliff. For dreamers looking to suck up money, I always thought the idea of a first-rate national weather museum would be great - partner with UB's earthquake center and Accuweather (headquartered relatively nearby in State College, PA).

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If redoing the Darwin has taken 50 million we could estimate that rebuilding the Larkin (an exact repo) would easily cost 10 times that much.

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My vote goes for rebuilding the Larkin Administration Building

I have the perfect use for it. Headquarters for the Buffalo Niagara Chamber of Commerce (BNP/BNE) and for gods sake please call it the Buffalo Niagara Chamber of Commerce...thats what people expect when they do their internet searches and other searches.

I think it would make a great building to attract new jobs and businesses to our area

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Anybody know how many visitors pass through this House per year ? This has to be one great attraction for the Western New York area.

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According to Fisher in Artvoice, less than 35,000 people per year, which includes local residents.
http://artvoice.com/issues/v11n2/week_in_review/canalside_museum
"The Environmental Impact Study conducted for Frank Lloyd Wright’s Darwin Martin House estimated a potential 100,000 annual visitors ... So far, the Darwin Martin House has drawn fewer than one-third the target."

So it's about two Sabres games worth of people, spread out over a year.
Or less than 5% as many as the 750,000 per year the temporary Seneca casino on MIchigan Ave has been drawing.

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.......all for 50 million (insert sad face). Ps how much is it for a tour of the house? I'd be nice to see what ROI we're getting on this investment.

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So it's about two Sabres games worth of people, spread out over a year.
Or less than 5% as many as the 750,000 per year the temporary Seneca casino on MIchigan Ave has been drawing.

You didn't include a comparison to the number of shoppers at Wal-Mart? It's about as comparable as your other examples.

replied to whatever
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Paul - the Martin House's architecture aside, isn't the topic in most of this thread - including Jaxson's comment to which I replied - about attracting visitors to Buffalo?

Why isn't a pro sports example relevant when it's so often claimed a franchise brings a city similar benefits as some are claiming will happen for the Martin House (... visitors to the city, bi-national publicity, civic pride, things to do for locals, etc.)?
Especially when the subject involves Canadian visitors?

Reportedly the Seneca temporary casino is attracting a noticeable amount of Canadians here too. As for Walmart, there's many Ontario plates in parking lots of those around here. Retail as a whole, including WM, Target, Galleria, NF outlet, etc. doesn't seem as irrelevant as it may at first glance. The airport is another example.

What's wrong with having any context about claims of how many visitors something has?

But you've given me a thought - if the VBN must exist in its current form, maybe it should consider redirecting its Canadian marketing efforts away from the Martin House and instead grow what it spends on marketing toward visitors for retail, sports, and casinos. It might have better bang for the buck results in how many visitors it attracts.

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I appreciate your data mining but comparing visitor counts of the relatively nascent (and not fully-developed) Darwin Martin complex to the established and well-known Sabres or the draw of a slot machine is disingenuous. Once renovated, the DM complex will be one of the cornerstones of architectural tourism in western New York and it will see a healthy turnover in visitors.

On my previous visits to the DM complex, almost all visitors were from outside western New York and the US: almost all planned their Buffalo visit around the DM complex. People know about Fallingwater. People know about Taliesin West. Give Buffalo a chance to tell people about the Darwin Marin complex.

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Yeah there isn't much choice but to give it a chance for what's already spent.
But $20M+, now approaching $30M, of taxpayer money in return for maybe something like a few thousand extra out-of-town visitors per year to Buffalo who wouldn't otherwise have traveled to here... I think it's reasonable if people question pouring in more and more public $ at this point. That could have paid for a lot of new bike lanes or street paving or crime cams or snow plows, etc.
How about just converting DMH to only donation-supported from now on?

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How about just converting DMH to only donation-supported from now on?

Your disdain for the arts is palpable. Around the world, tourists venture to see cultural attractions that each city offers. As word of the DM complex spreads, visitor counts will increase more than the few thousand you dismissively suggest.

Your pay-as-you-go suggestion would wipe most cultural destinations off the map but here's a solution: force restaurants, hotels, rental car agencies, and airlines that benefit from cultural magnets like the DM complex to pay a percentage to that organization.

Bilbao was a sleepy town in Spain until Frank Gehry's Guggenheim appeared. Tourism increased and local establishments benefited. Perhaps, instead of state support, the Guggenheim should shake down the local hotelier.

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Paul, how is that "disdain" just to suggest that many millions from taxpayers could be better spent on more direct public needs?

There's countless things that the private sector funds - some nonprofit, some for profit.
I have disdain for very few of them, and I don't have any disdain for DM House, or Irish Classical Theater, or even the Buffalo Hyatt, or Chef's restaurant, or the Bills or Sabres, or General Motors, or Solyndra, or Paladino's condos, or anything Termini or Croce own.
Believe it or not, I'm pretty low on disdain for anything people want to do or build.

paul>"but here's a solution: force restaurants, hotels, rental car agencies, and airlines that benefit from cultural magnets like the DM complex to pay a percentage to that organization.

It sounds fine if they'd want to do that, but why force? Sometimes businesses set aside funds or percents of sales for donations to a lot of different stuff.

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... could be better spent on more direct public needs?

That's the problem: you don't think it's a direct public need. It's like cutting art, music and sports in schools.

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Ah, my views are a 'problem' while yours aren't.
What an open minded way you have of agreeing to disagree!

Btw, I've never opposed those off topic red herrings of school subject areas you just raised. Public schools are a good example among many of how some of the $20M, nearing $30M and counting might have been better prioritized instead of on one house which could have been fully funded by donors. Of course there have to be priorities. Even your adopted home state of California is discovering the 'problem' in which not every spending idea should be funded even if it might sound cool to some. Several municipal bankruptcies in CA this year, ongoing state budget crises, tax hike after tax hike, many tech and other jobs fleeing from CA moving to Utah, Colorado, Texas.
Good luck with improving the priorities out there in addition to advising us for ours, lol

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Ah, my views are a 'problem' while yours aren't.

No, not at all. Your views on this topic are just less inclusive: culture is not a direct need but 'x' is. I get it.

Good luck with improving the priorities out there in addition to advising us for ours

Nice use of playing the you-don't-live-here card. I keep forgetting BRO is for local residents only.

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You mean the casino that was suspiciously left out of all of those 'crony capitalism' comments you made earlier :)

Sorry, that's a bit more dickish than I like to be but after reading your double standard lecture to Hamp, I couldn't resist.

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pres, no need to feel bad about being dickish.

Regarding my exchange with davvid to which you refer - it isn't possible of course to include every topic every time, so yes I didn't bring up casinos in that and nether did he.

But in the past on here, back before armchair-kettle said he got banned, there were a lot of debates about casinos and I wrote several times that NYS should fully legalize casino gambling rather than allow it only for the Senecas here.
If you're interested, it should be easy to google up my comments about that. Hopefully Cuomo will try to move NYS in that direction.

However, if it's a choice between not allowing any legal casinos in Buffalo (as was the case before), then allowing the Senecas to open one is better. It allows more freedom for the many thousands of people who want to do that here, while before they weren't allowed to.

The reason I don't think it's a double standard in the corporate welfare comparison as you suggest it is, is because if taxpayer cash payments to hotel owners/developers was ended by NYS & Erie Co, that isn't the same as making hotels illegal. There would still be a lot of of hotels in Buffalo. See the difference?

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No I don't see the difference. The companies you mentioned get preferential treatment in the form of grants and incentives. The casinos get preferential treatment in the form of complete tax exemption and outlawing of any competition. If anything, the only difference would be the casinos being a far more extreme example of 'crony capitalism' than those hotels and restaurants.

Not that there is anything wrong with favoring one form of preferential treatment over the other. You could make the argument that heavily subsidizing a select gambling company is a better use of local resources than giving grants to a boutique hotel or similar. Some instances of 'crony capitalism' may be better than others.

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Again, pres, I favor ending the exclusivity the state decided to grant the Senecas. I never favored NYS giving them the exclusive rights in the first place. Now at this point legally perhaps that change can't happen until the deal expires in a few years. The state did sign a deal and Buffalo's city govt under Masiello even sued to force the casino to locate in the city instead of Cheektowaga where the Senecas preferred.

Again - I've been against that corporate welfare crony capitalism of the exclusivity that you oddly keep saying I favor.
Just because I didn't bring it up in the other thread (which didn't even mention casinos) doesn't mean I ever favored the exclusivity. As for Native American tribes not being taxed, that's U.S. federal law.

I also never supported converting land in Buffalo or NF to tribal land, but again our elected NYS leaders of both parties did that - Silver & Pataki, and then our legally elected mayor and Council decided to force it into the city not burbs.

NYS should have to live up to deals it makes - and Buffalo has consequences of deciding to sue to force it to locate here - but that doesn't mean I favored the deal or the lawsuit.

You won't find *anything* I've ever commented which endorses the monopoly idea.

It isn't the Senecas' fault that the NYS govt decided to make that deal with them. So when some people bash the Senecas on here in a lot of weird ways for a lot of different things, yes I've argued back on occasion case by case. That also doesn't mean I favored granting the exclusivity or that I think exclusivity should be extended past the agreement's time frame.

Also, as dumb as the monopoly is, things were even worse before that because then nobody in Buffalo/city had the legal right to casino gamble here. So in that narrow way it was a step forward for personal liberty.
Still, NYS should have legalized casino gambling very differently than it did, and I've said that all along even if you're too stubborn to admit I have.
Hopefully Cuomo will improve things in the longer term.

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750,00 a year? that works out to over 2000 per day.

sounds pretty inflated to me.

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grad, I can't prove the numbers Business First reported, but what about 2,000 people a day is so difficult to believe?

Aren't casinos a popular type of entertainment among many average people - similar in some ways to to things like drinking, watching sports, video gaming, hunting, fishing, etc - which aren't everyone's favorite but do generate a lot of interest?

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it's just that on the random occasions when i pass by, the parking lot is never that full.

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It's a shame it was destroyed but I would never want to see the larkin rebuilt. No offense to Wright but it looks like a prison from the outside and is very dated compared to the rest of his more timeless designs (most of his residential projects). Plus the price to rebuild it would be retardedly high. I much rather see the money go elsewhere. A refurb of Delaware park and zoo would be great. Make the zoo a small but amazing modern zoo

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It would be interesting to see some cost estimates on rebuildling the LAB. Perhaps rebuildling is cheaper than than rehabbing, especially if the same foundation can be used. There wasn't much in the way of art glass used, so those costs are not a consideration.

Is building it from the ground up that much more than any other building? I wonder.

Here's a hope -- that Larkinville continues to grow and a good company takes hold that enjoys solid global growth and needs a large building for it's HQ. Cross your fingers that a facebook or a google arises. If such a company should arise in Buffalo, it would have the financial resources to build anything it wants, and might want to be in Larkinville. If said company's CEO is a FLW fan, they might do it.

IT's a long, long shot and would require a perfect storm of events. But one can dream, can't one?

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There are other more noteworthy buildings more integral to the telling of Buffalos story
-erir county savings bank
German American insurance building
hotel Buffalo
Buffalo savings which was the former fed reserve
Hotel irroqois
Chamber of commerce
The old downtown library
The full YMCA
The temple of music
The pan am collonade, fountains, statues
The lin wood, Delaware and elm wood mansions

Others still with us but losing then
Broadway armory
Bethlehem headquarters

LAB stands out because its FLW

People are missing the point while arguing over whether to rebuild it. Why does London, Paris, Quebec, and other great cities stand out and when does Buffalo stand out positively

The answer is history and culture particularly of their golden age...the height of their civilization.its orth gold as a travel destination, positive press and branding...even quality of life.

We can create a new buffalo....as did all the other cities mentioned... but we get there by history and culture. In order to do that we have to restore what's left ad rebuild or mistakes.. when we are unified in our culture and our history...we will again rejoin respect among the great cities

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That's right, ChristieLou, you can build a new Buffalo by rebuilding all of old Buffalo. Colonial Williamsburg will have nothing on your master plan. Brilliant!

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On the contrary my nelly negative jewish stalker from the left coast....

Buffalo city limits is more than 60% demolished. There is plenty of room for new Buffalo to take root as it is doing on the Life Sciences campus.

No one is talking about creating a Colonia Williamsburg which is a historical theme park.

The message is to reweave our cultural history, our legacy and the most important aspects of our golden age.

San Francisco still has its cable cars and people love (residents and visitors) them. It brands the city of San Francisco. Buffalo had streetcars and the BELTWAY and the inter-urban....anyone of which do something similar for Bufalo.

Thats our discussion but your so filled with bile that you cant contribute anything of substance or value.

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It was a nice piece in the Globe and Mail, but too bad Visit Buffalo Niagara paid for it. It's a slippery slope when newspapers allow their writers to be paid twice, once by the sponsoring organization, Visit Buffalo Niagara, and the second the salary or freelance commission from the Globe and Mail. You can argue until you're blue in the face that the guy did an unbiased report, but the argument goes out the window when it's bought and paid for journalism, even if it's only room and board.

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Welcome to the real world. If VBN paid 500 bucks for it and it brings in 100 visitors, who spend 500 bucks, that's 50k. So that's what I call a good ROI. I commend them if they did pay for it.

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Hi Michael,

For clarification, while VBN often hosts writers (as most CVBs do), we never compensate them.

We also have no control over what a writer publishes (even though I'd love to! :) ). If we ever give someone a bias in favor of Buffalo, awesome!

In this case, you have a seasoned architecture writer who was blown away by the work at the Martin House and Graycliff.

Peter Burakowski
Communications Manager
Visit Buffalo Niagara

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Since there are more than a couple folks interested in the Larkin Building, be sure to mark your calendar for April 14, 2013. I will be presenting a talk called "A Trip Back in Time to the Larkin Administration Building" along with a pipe organ concert at the Forest Lawn Chapel. It has not been formally announced yet, so watch for more details. I will show a recently discovered motion picture of a 1910 tour of the Larkin factory that was made for a Thomas Edison home kinetoscope. In addition, there will be images of the building from slides that belonged to the Larkin family, as well as a Larkin home movie showing John D. himself in his office in the Larkin Building. The concert will honor the pipe organ that was installed in the Larkin Building in 1925.

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Sounds cool, O Keeper of the Pier!

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I don't think it is fair to look at the attendance figures and tour revenue as the sole metrics for the public's 'ROI.' Having well preserved examples of renown architects' work adds to the overall appeal of the region as a cultural tourism destination. That is something I think most people can agree is a good thing but isn't easy to quantify using one of several attractions' visitor traffic.

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You're def right, but it'd be nice to know how much the tours generate in revenue, so we can wrap our minds around the hard currency return we're getting on this project.

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I think that the attendance figures can be improved. I know that the Boathouse, the Gas Station, the Martin House and the Graycliff are all owned by separate entities. In reviewing the Martin House website its very centric (although a Wright desing in PA is in the 'Spotlight'. Looking at the Graycliff website, it at least has a link to other Wright designs in the area.

It has been said many times on this board in regards to many different items, but our ability to promote one another or market in even the most simplistic of ways is piecemeal at best. There is no reason the Gas Station was omitted from the above article.

Drive downtown and you see all of these buildings but to outside visitors it is not apparent to who occupies all of these buildings- i.e. Key Tower houses Delaware North a recognizable national brand; Even small businesses, a simple sidewalk sign for Sarah Danielle to drive traffic; otherwise, unless you happen upon it who even knew it was there.

We need to stop working in silos. Cross promote, share overhead i.e. website designs, tour reservations, "profit" share to further restoration. We need to have updates on successes of restoration, even small ones, maintain a list of needs, etc etc especially not profit restorations.

Everyone is working hard but its in a buckshot fashion and unfocused manner. We can do better and must do better. A little coordination and marketing can go a long way.

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You are right. And when one Wright house owner tried to open his house as a B&B so that anyone could experience living in a Wright house, locals shot it down. I think that would have been a great idea to cement the Wright experience in Buffalo.

If we could coordinate the Roycroft campus , which had a strong influence on Wright and is tied to the Larkin legacy, with all the other Wright buildlings in Buffalo (plus also the Prudential buildling, which was designed by his first boss Sullivan), we would have something that would rival or perhaps exceed Oak Park, Illinois. Perhaps a bus tour at every Wright structure with an overnight at the Roycroft and stops at each publically available structure would be in order.

Further, I would house any locally owned Wright artifacts, such fixtures from the Administration Building that are owned by the Albirght Knox, in a small museum or the visitors center.

That would be an entire day and night of activities for WRight enthusiasts.

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All day Wright bus tours have been conducted this year. All have sold out. A few more are planned. http://www.darwinmartinhouse.org/tour_descriptions.cfm

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I agree with you that there should be more cross-promotion of/coordination among the buildings that FLW actually built: DMH, Graycliff, Heath and Davidson. Add to that an authentic virtual tour of the Admin building.

However, I agree with many experts who do not feel it is appropriate to lump the Boathouse, Mausoleum and (certainly) the gas station with the aforementioned properties. We risk diluting them otherwise....

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Spot on--it raises the Buffalo's profile and stature enormously. This is a, virtually, impossible number to calculate.

It's also difficult to accurately determine ancillary revenue generated by this asset (tourists' stays at hotels, etc.)

In looking at the National Trust Conference, which generated north of $4MM for the City, the DMH was one of the key--if not THE key--draw of the Conference. So, one could easily factor that in as part of the ROI.

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One of my students here in Washington gave a derisive laugh when I had mentioned that I was going home to Buffalo for a visit. She had never been there and all she knew about the city was the traditional baloney about smokestacks, abandoned buildings, etc.

Then I found out her and her husband had visited Fallingwater and are big Wright fans. No, they had never heard that there was any wright in Buffalo, oddly enough. But a few months ago, they were planning a trip to Toronto by car. I suggested that they visit the Martin house.

They looked it up online and realized that they had to see it, and asked me for suggestions on where to eat, and a place to stay in Buffalo so that they could do it without being rushed. I of course suggested the Hotel Lafayette for eats and a room.

Needless to say, their perception changed of Buffalo changed if not 180 degrees, then at least 90. They would like to see Graycliff sometime and the other Wright buildings. Total expenditure in Buffalo as a result of one 10 minute conversation? Probably $250 for hotel, meals, admission, gas, tolls and whatnot. Not much, but it quickly becomes a lot if you scale up. They are retired and have many friends in the area, so I'm sure word will spread rather quickly.

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Your story is exactly why simple infill is not sufficient for Buffalo.

75 years of demolition since our golden age have left us a shadow ... a ghost of our former self.

Now, had Buffalo stayed on the same trajectory, Buffalo would be the size of Atlanta or Dallas or LA but we are never going to be those sunbelt cities. We cant compete with then for size, population, wealthy, industry, technology or art.

But we can compete and surpass them in history and culture but to do so we need to know our culture, teach it, restore it, rebuild it wherever an integral piece was mistakenly demolished or lost.

One thing is for sure...we have in our hands the tools to build an identity for Buffalo. If we dont then the rest of the nation and world will build their own version for us.

-A version of LaSalle's Griffin which explored the Great Lakes must get built
-War of 1812, Fort Porter, Front Park all must be restored in some fashion.
-the 1901 PAN AM statues, bandshells, fountains, colonnades even some of the buildings like the temple of music must get rebuilt.
-period classics representative of Buffalo's golden age must get rebuilt. Art Nuveau Hotel Buffalo. Its light green highly sculptured terra cotta made the entire exterior museum worthy.
-A Center for Excellence in Power Generation, Distribtion and Management along with a Museum honoring TESLA would be a great asset.
-Full and immediate restoration of Olmsted Parks including Calvert Veaux structures. Whats taking this so long? How long have they been restoring the parks in Buffalo 30 years?

Havent we learned the lession that the Prudential, Central Terminal, Sheas, the Canals & Commercial Slips, the Larkin District taught us? These create Buffalo's identity, our brand, ... this is how we compete and market our city. This is who we are!

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-War of 1812, Fort Porter, Front Park all must be restored in some fashion.,/i>

ChristieLou, I agree: it's time to get that War of 1812 going again. There were too many loose ends. Are you looking for a volunteer army or do you want to institute the draft?

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This pile of bricks was unloved by its entire family, save its deluded sponsor, to the point of being left unlocked when Mrs.Martin abandoned it during the Depression. FLW used Darwin Martin as an ATM and had no regard for him or Buffalo. None. Young Darwin couldn't even use its garden sculpture as a family monument at Forest Lawn, because it wasn't made of granite.

Devoting over FIFTY MILLION TAX DOLLARS to "restore" this thing, entirely to attract tourists, is all the more disgusting when local residents must pay the same overpriced admission as the out-of-town suckers.

In NYC, acceptance of tax money means that Admission becomes VOLUNTARY - even the Metropolitan Museum must accept $25, $5, $1, $.25, or NOTHING for admission.

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