The Garden @ Black Rock
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Leave a commentMark does it again--creates space like no other in Buffalo. Good for him.
Mark Goldman is perpetual in using his unique vision to create special spaces and places.
High compliments and best wishes!
High compliments and best wishes, indeed. But holding the standard he has set against surrounding businesses may not be fair, no? He is taking outside money and putting it into a struggling/rebounding/up-and-coming neighborhood. I don't mean that to detract from what he is doing, as surely it will have positive effects. However, let's not cast stones on his neighbors.
Hopefully this brings the best out of his neighbors, and attracts welcome attention and investment into the street.
$13 for a steak sandwich must be delish.
14 bucks for cheese and some fruit? Seems a little "rich" for this area of town.
You need to get out more, the Black Rock Kitchen is always busy and "this area of town" has a growing business district that continues to attract new entrepreneurs at a steady rate. I would go so far to say Black Rock has attracted more new business in the past few years than any other part of the city. That doesn't even account for the new investment by many of the older business's that never lost faith in the old neighborhood.
Easy there blackrock homer. You have one street that has a couple of business on it and all of a sudden it's the new hip spot? I don't think so. Like starmoonchild (or whatever her name is) said, Let's not promote one tiny area while tossing the other 90% aside. I took my GF down Amherst a couple months ago on a Sunday and she said, "it's okay, it's nothing I'd brag about. It might even be a little nicer if there wasn't all this glass on the street." my aunt lives in Blackrock and my cousin had his car set on fire while in there driveway. My buddy Shawns whole family pretty much lives in, or comes from Blackrock and he calls it Crackrock. So maybe you're the one that needs to get out a bit.
So Amherst St. has just a "couple of business on it" according to you? Amherst street is home to over 50 stores, restaurants, bars, and other establishments. Just in the past few years we have welcomed the Black Rock Kitchen, Delish Bakery, Lucy's Ethiopian Restaurant, Rohall's Tavern, Chef Du Jour, and Katsu Mart. We also have attracted Artsphere, Gallery 464, Arts Enrichment Center, Abstract Image Works, Bahuaus Spa, and Dog Days of Buffalo. These entrepreneurs compliment the existing business that have long been established here such as Spars, Voelkers Bowling Alley, Nick's Place, Fundalinski Studio, and Graser Florist. Also the many bars like Barry's, Hillikers Past Time, Casey's, Lisa's, and Sportman Tavern (undergoing a major expansion and the best place for live music in Buffalo). Amherst St. is home to the only Wegman's in the city, the Habitat for Humanity Store, and Artisan Kitchens. There are many other typical neighborhood business's that are too numerous to list.
As for your claim of "all this glass on the street", I have never experienced such a problem, the business owners clean up on a regular basis. I don't know what to say about your aunt-cousin-friend negativity, I have a far different experience here, maybe because I have pride in my neighborhood and the respect of my neighbors.
The first and only time I've ever been to Voelkers I thought, "when was the last time I had my tetanus shot?"
Voelkers has been voted Buffalo's best bowling alley, the building started out as a hotel for the Pan American Exposition in 1901. Too bad you do not have the ability to recognize the history and appeal of cool retro places like Voelkers. As for tetanus, you might want to have your immune system checked out, I have frequented places like this for over 40 years without any problem.
How many other bowling alley's are in Buffalo? If you mean WNY, that's something else. But I can't think of any bowling alley's in the City other than Voelker's. So being voted #1 of 1 doesn't say anything.
As for the building, tetanus might be a bit far, but not far off. That building is disgusting inside and out. What kind of business owner do you need to be to take some pride in your business and not store your crap in an unused entryway fronting a busy arterial welcoming thousands of motorists, cyclists, pedestrians, et al into your Black Rock community.
When I was in there the whole place smelled like urine, half the video games didnt work, the booze selection was horrible unless you wanted some Genny or Labatt's. The place was a true dump. I'd take Recckio's in South Buffalo over Voelkers any day of the week. My GF refuses to ever set foot in that place again.
Actually you are right, the Artvoice "best of" does include all of WNY. There are still a few bowling alleys in the city. Schiller Park Lanes on Genesee, Town Edge on Clinton, Bowl Inn on Bailey, and Ideal Lanes on Kerns. Kenmore Lanes is on the Kenmore side of the street but serves the city and I am not sure if it is still open but Amherst Bowling is on East Amherst near Main.
As for the condition of Voelkers, I never found it to be that bad, not saying it is known to be clean and neat but that has nothing to do with tetanus or any other real threat. After all it is a bar/bowling alley, not a trendy restaurant. That said I will share your concerns with the owner and I agree about storing the crap in the vestibule, looks bad.
Can you provide the link that says that Voelkers is the best bowling alley in WNY, because I wasnt able to find it.
Right here, using a simple Google search for "Artvoice Best of Buffalo 2012":
.......also, I was just in the Pan Am grill at the Lafayette last week for dinner and my buddy had his wedding reception at the Lafayette on Sat and I've been in the Statler for Christmas parties and visited the club a couple times. So I can def appreciate a cool retro place.....Voelkers = not a cool retro place.
My wife and I were at the Pan Am on Friday night, of course it is quite impressive although the acoustics are terrible, sounds like a subway tunnel in there. My wife's drink was terrible and she rarely complains, goes to show no place is perfect. We used to go when it was the Tap Room and I appreciated that place as well. Anyone can recognize the beauty of one of our finest restored old hotels, it takes a little more insight and perception to appreciate the appeal of the less obvious, I know you don't get it.
"it takes a little more insight and perception to appreciate the appeal of the less obvious, I know you don't get it."
I frequent a lot of spots like the Falcons motorcycle clubhouse on Broadway that you'd probably never step in, but Voelkers is straight up trash.
I live a block from the Kingsmen's clubhouse and used to go there for fish fry's, that doesn't mean anything. I grew up with some rough characters here in Black Rock, had to navigate around trouble at times, learned how to act from that experience. I used to hang out at Rock City, Surfside, McVans, Orchid lounge, and many other tough bars probably before you were born. Never had a problem, not because I was a tough guy but because I respected others and had the respect of most. From the tone of your comments I doubt you could say the same.
"WAAAAAAHH!!! Voelker's is smelly and that makes all of Black Rock bad!!"
Sheesh . . .
No not true. I think Blackrock is a turd, not because Voelkers is there, but because it is. My buddy's handyman lives in blackrock and he even calls it a "butthole". It's just interesting that everone I know hates the place, but Turd Ferguson thinks it's the second coming of the garden of eden.
I've never been to this area other then drive through it maybe twice so I can't really say much about it but I'm glad to see someone standing up for their area! It's too easy to sit back and complain these days. Regardless of what the area is like...good for you to stand up for yourself
The Black Rock Kitchen has been a positive developement in the neighborhood and the Goldman's deserve credit for their investment. That said Black Rock was already rebounding before the restaurant opened, many others paved the way to make their success possible, lets not forget these other less trendy but solid business's. Black Rock has always had a core of old established business's and a fierce pride of place, this provided the foundation for Amherst Street to build on and continues to drive the renewal of Buffalo's oldest neighborhood.
Congrats for putting a local spin on Obama's declaration over the weekend... "..if you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."
Always interesting to watch the left draw the line between 'cute, struggling small business man', and 'successful 1%'er greedy bastard.' Come join us on the right, where every businessman, small or large, is applauded for their efforts.
Jeez Ben, I don't know how you can twist my comment into that pretzel, this isn't about left or right. I simply pointed out that many others worked hard to improve and stabilize Amherst Street, I know many of these people personally and they deserve credit for their efforts. This street didn't just happen, many folks have been working behind the scenes for a decade or more and as I stated previously, some never lost faith in the old neighborhood.
"provided the foundation for Amherst Street to build on and continues to drive the renewal of Buffalo's oldest neighborhood."
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned how it's all the more impressive that Amherst St around the Grant and Elmwood portions has had steady growth in storefront businesses despite the huge negatives of bigbox Tops and bigbox Wegmans attracting literally thousands of consumers to around there every day.
The City allowing Tops and Wegmans to invade and force themselves on us all is an ongoing tragedy as we've been told on here a time or two. Still, it's great that the legitimate Amherst St businesses didn't get too discouraged by the consistent extra flow of car-addicted freeloaders who keep refusing to pay their fair share of infrastructure costs - the jerks.
SAY what you will regarding TOPS' entry in to the Grant Amherst neighborhood...despite the problems experienced since its' inception...it was an anchor for other Businesses, including Wegmans, and created a demand for housing, though the quality of tenant has not been what would be most desirable. The crime and vandalism that has steadily increased on Amherst st, and side streets off of Amherst st these last years has not helped.
My biggest problem with the Grant Tops is how disgusting its general appearance is, such as the debris throughout the parking lot. I think it's worse than the Niagara Tops. Though, that would be a thin line.
Agree, Tops continues to ignore their responsibility to be a good neighbor.
Tops has not contributed to the neighborhood, their clientele do not visit other neighborhood business. Tops also has a very poor relationship with the community, the store is dirty, under staffed, and the parking lot is generally a mess. Tops has a long history of problems, when the store was built they filled the gorge area along Scajaquada Creek to enlarge their parking lot and forced the Scajaquada Trail to be re-routed along the edge of the parking lot instead of along the creek. This was of course illegal but the city backed down and let it go.
Wegmans has contributed to the neighborhood, the store is clean, well staffed, and the parking areas are neat. Wegmans met with neighborhood groups and listened to concerns. The clientele of Wegmans do visit other stores in the area so you are half right.
"Tops has not contributed to the neighborhood, their clientele do not visit other neighborhood business. … The clientele of Wegmans do visit other stores in the area so you are half right."
For you to say I'm even half right is a special occasion, so I maybe shouldn't nitpick - but how can you be so sure nobody who shops at that Tops also doesn't stop at say the Chinese place on the corner, or the new Ethiopian place, or the liquor store, or Joe's pizza, or … on and on.
For their own reasons, some people do prefer Tops even to Wegmans. Crazy to me, but true. Maybe some people with very strong pro-union beliefs prefer unionized-Tops to nonunion-Wegmans. Or maybe some people who buy a lot of certain things on weekly sales prefer that to Wegmans more lower everyday pricing.
I can't explain it, but it looks like the Tops parking lot gets easily over 1,000 cars per day every day of the year (not to mention people who walk or bike). It's very far fetched to assume all of them never stop anywhere else around there - even in non-trendy businesses which also count.
Maybe we can split the difference and say I was at least 3/4 correct?
Mark Goldman is a Buffalo treasure, albeit an idiosyncratic one. Congratulations!
TOPS has went backwards as the rest of the area has moved forwards, which is really sad. The Grant Amherst business association and Believe in Black Rock have been all over their collective a$$es lately. Hopefully they will get the picture. Wegmans on the other hand has retained very high standards and has managed to keep their prices low enough that neighborhood people can shop here too (not just out of the area folks looking for gourmet items) if you spend wisely. Black Rock's biggest draw isn't just what's in it but how close it is to so many other things - North Buffalo shopping, easy highway access, Elmwood Village and Allentown a quick jaunt away, ever-developing West Side next store, etc. Close proximity to Riverside and Delaware Parks. It's much more convenient living than any other area of the city or 'burbs I've lived in around here.
As the resident "starwhateverthehellyousaidchild" I stand by my original comment that the rest of the area is largely ignored, which is pretty silly. I don't say this to downplay the Amherst-Grant area improvements (as any improvement near my 'hood or in it is always awesome) but to remind folks that there is a lot to be said for BR west of the viaduct as well. I would love to see the enthusiasm for Gr-Am area brought all the way to Niagara, especially with areas of Niagara in the West Side (Black Rock's neighbor to the south)steadily attracting more and more businesses. Black Rock west of the viaduct has some amazing mixed-use buildings that I would love to see turned into more than just quicky marts, like the original Charlap's building. Black Rock's biggest community orgization outside of non-business residents is also centered in this part of the community along with the Grassroots garden.
Black Rock is conveniently located, we are 5 or 10 minutes from the best of Buffalo. The Riverwalk and the Scajauquada Trail intersect at Black Rock providing many options for biking or walking. Squaw Island Park is a beautiful place and the presence of the Border Patrol makes it fairly safe. We have the river, an asset few can match and we have a great stock of old buildings. The area you refer to (west of the viaduct) is the old village. This part of the neighborhood was independent from Buffalo until 1854 and still retains the look and feel of a small village. The buildings and homes here span over 180 years of developement and include many styles of construction. As you noted this area has much potential, many of these old buildings are ripe for redevelopement. That potential is sometimes hard to see because so many old buildings have been altered and neglected. I believe we will continue to make progress, the neighborhood has attracted much interest in the past few years. Black Rock has endured for over 200 years, even with our challenges there is still a sense of pride and independence here.
......moments after this comment BlackRocklifer steps down from his soapbox.
Tops was scheduled to go before the Buffalo Planning Board this morning to discuss their plans and desires for their Grant & Amherst location. They want to install gas pumps, may spruce up the site. FYI.
"Tell me what you brag about and I'll tell you what you lack" Spanish Proverb
"Great boast, small roast"
Chinese Proverb
Are we really having a discussion over the size of someone's crank? Funny I must say and I do enjoy when Blackrock lets his guard down.
I try to stay polite, probably should just ignore this stupidity but Up and Coming's history of negative, rude, and now just crude comments gets old, at least Karl Malone has a sense of humor.
Awwww don't be so butthurt, lol. I write some comments to be serious and others just to get under your skin a little bit.
They are basically blackmailing the city and the community by stating if they aren't allowed to put in the gas pumps they won't put a dime into the store. We heard it from the proverbial horse's mouth at the last Believe in Black Rock Community meeting. Their plans for the site even with the rehab are pretty limited - new paint, minor landscaping, repave and "interior enhancements" which could mean anything. Their plan for the environmental impact on Scajaquada Creek sounds pretty limited but by their own admission the gentlemen who came to our meeting were not "experts" on that side of the plan. I have mixed feelings on the project. They have shown at their West Side location that gas pumps and increased revenue for them doesn't guarantee a cleaner, better maintained property.
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Cool place.
Let's see if s (or d, etc) complains about BRK&B's parking lot across the street, calls it sprawl, calculates per-sq-foot property taxes, etc, - won't happen, lol