R and R Pedicabs
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Leave a commentPeople are going to grow to dislike these. They are too big for the sidewalks and too slow for the roads.
Well, they should never be on a sidewalk. Just like all the other bikes on the sidewalk should never be on the sidewalk.
I don't think there will be a problem in the roads. People will figure it out or just park their car and walk to where they need to get to.
It's not the riders...it's the operators. Not saying anything about these 2 in particular but if it grows you'll eventually have issues.
Consider Elmwood on a busy night. Cars will be parked in every spot and this will turn Elmwood into a 2 lane road (one lane each way)...
Put a pedicab going northbound on the road and you essentially have lowered the speed of traffic to that of a bike.
Maybe elmwood could stand to have a little bit of a slowdown in traffic. Regardless of conditions, people feel they are entitled to 30+mph on the strip.
On a busy night, traffic on Elmwood is hardly known for being the speediest road in the city.
A good majority of traffic on a busy night is 'cruising', more concerned with the sights and sounds. Anyone trying to get someplace in a hurry already knows to use Delaware, Main or the dozen other parallel streets.
And for each and every one of these pedicabs on the road, there are one or two extra parking spots open, one or two fewer cars guzzling gas and spewing fumes into the air, five or ten bucks going to local owners and employees instead of oil profits being sent away to Houston, Detroit and Riyadh... as well as quite possibly a few more bucks in local merchants' tills and even a few less drunks behind the wheel.
But God forbid any of those positives should add an extra 35 seconds onto somebody's urgent trip to get a slurpee at 7-11...
But... Elmwood IS a two-lane road.
Longgone must have been gone a long long time, Elmwood from Forest south has always been 2 lanes.
And that would be bad because......?
"I don't think there will be a problem in the roads. People will figure it out or just park their car and walk to where they need to get to."
Reeeally? I sure hope you were kidding....please tell my you were?
I wasn't kidding. Why would I be kidding? You don't think people can figure things out?
I was surprised in Washington that they had their own lane.
Pedicabs are all over Charleston, SC, which has far narrower and more congested streets, and somehow they make it work. Give them a chance!
You are right...but not for the reasons you stated.
People get sick of them when there are too many and they become unsightly, instead of a charm.
London for example is on the verge of banning them altogether.
However, if kept under control it might never get to that point.
Unsightly? When they get rusty? This seems a little ridiculous.
What you folks are viewing is a couple of nice pedicabs going up and down Elmwood and everyone having a great time.
I live in San Diego and they are a huge problem here. They even had a death a couple of summers ago because the driver was careless.
What I know is having 10 of the pedicabs congregated together in a busy spot all bugging people who walk by if they want a ride. They will block parts of the sidewalk and street. Cops will have to scatter them every few hours.
What I know is pedicab drivers who are careless with their passengers and swerve in front of traffic without paying attention to the cars around them. Sometimes it's because they do not have rear view mirrors, which the above pictured cabs do not, or because the music is too loud and they can not hear oncoming traffic.
What I know is pedicab drivers who blare sh*tty techno music in their cabs when they do not have passengers and go up and down streets looking for tourists.
I have nothing against these guys. I am just sharing the long term results that are going to happen if they become popular. It's called perspective. People in Buffalo should get it before they claim to be experts on everything.
I'm surprised the city has a permit set up for these, or is this going to turn into a food truck situation?
We used to have the Buffalo Bike Taxi's a few years ago which were simular bike rides. Happy to see something (better looking too) brought back to the streets of Buffalo. I rode on one of these in NYC awhile back, alot of fun!
pedillac. that's adorable.
too many pedicabs? sheesh, we should be so lucky.
It's good to hear of pedicabs re-emerging in Buffalo, Buffalo Bike Taxi started his business right about the same time I started mine in San Diego (I'm actually located in Ramona, which is North County, but I operate almost exclusively in Balboa Park). I've been operating about 8 years now and have witnessed the best of what this industry can bring and have seen the downsides, some of which Loggone addressed in his earlier post.
Pedicabs can provide a unique, fun and environmentally friendly transportation alternative to any community. Just as any business, they have a responsibility to be a positive business partner in the community - that means following established laws specifically designed for pedicabs, as well as broader ordinances that govern business conduct in the community. When pedicab operators flaunt the rules (driving without insurance, without the proper safety equipment, disobeying traffic rules) they cause nothing but grief. On the other hand, responsible pedicab businesses who properly train their drivers and promote positive customer service are going to be treated as a welcome addition to the business community.
Unchecked, explosive growth without consistent oversight (peer review or enforcement of existing regulations by the local authorities) can only result in chaos. If things progress to that point then heavy handed regulations come into play and the industry feels the pain of not taking responsibility to self regulate.
A thriving pedicab market attracts all sorts of folks to try their hand at driving a cab, the lure of quick cash, the physical nature of the job, the "set your own hours" mindset, the low start up costs (for pure drivers...not owners) all contribute to the environment we have. It's up to the Pedicab Company Owners to run responsible business and train their drivers appropriately. This is not different than any other business.
Anyone who has followed the Pedicab Industry in San Diego knows very well the core issues surrounding many of the problems that arose here over the last 6 or 7 years. Some of those key issues have been dealt with through progressively more stringent regulations and rules (at the local, state and federal level) - but you can't legislate common sense, customer service or basic courtesy.
Our industry has been irrevocably changed in San Diego because of a tragic fatality accident that occurred 3 years ago on the 4th of July. When you sort through all the reports, it was just that, a tragic Accident. The industry and the Community suffers whenever something like that happens, it's just a horrible thing. You try to learn from the situation, make improvements and move on.
Best wishes to Rock and Roz as they turn out R and R Pedicabs in Buffalo, it sounds like they have a good plan in place to partner with local business and those Pedillacs are a slick pedicab - they'll appreciate the electric assist at the end of a long shift :) Maybe Thomas from Buffalo Bike Taxi is still around, if he is, touch base with him, he'd probably be happy to see pedicabs back in Buffalo!
Dale Hill, CEO
Pops' Pedicabs
www.popspedicabs.com
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In Washington, pedicabs are gaining in popularity. Yes, they do slow down traffic a bit, but as a car driver I really don't notice much of an inconvenience.
I feel bad for the drivers, though -- it's a tough living. On hot days, it could be dangerous if they are out there pedaling, as they could get a heat stroke if they aren't careful. You have to be cheerful and helpful even if it's raining, the tourists are idiots and you only had one fare the whole day. You won't get rich, but god bless 'em for trying!
Right away we go to the negative! "We want something new, We want something refreshing, We don't want any issues that come along with it"
HI everyone and thank you for your, both encouraging and questioning comments. I look forward to seeing all of you at various events and for just for a simple ride down one of the many streets in the area. All of our riders have driver licenses, we review road safety, have insurance, have a maintained schedule for our bikes, and we require training. Like any good and responsible business owners we look forward in serving you and the community in a fun and caring way. Let’s keep Buffalo rising up! Thank you again for your comments. We all learn from all peoples input. I also like to thanks Dale Hill for taking the time to write his sage advice as an experienced Pedicab owner. Our company is only a small seasonal company that I hope everyone can support. Hope to see you all soon!
we need gondolas for Scajacuada crick....start by the casino at Hoyt Lake and then head west towards the Yard at Rock Harbor....maybe have stops at Wegmans and then Tops to pick up shoppers....or somewhere else along Amherst street for the artists and club-goers
Where I see they could make money is during lunch hour during downtown. Most people go to lunch within walking distance of their office. But with these things, people could go further and explore new lunch spots.
As a former federal bureaucrat, I know that it gets rather boring when you eat at the same places day in and day out, so this might be a good fit.
Another would be to combine an architectural tour, since you an see more on pedicab than by walking, and not everyone wants to do rent a bike. If they did actual tours, explaining the buildings and neighborhoods, and included stops for refreshments, it could be another great way to promote architectural tourism.
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Great to see more bicycle entrepreneurs in Buffalo. Though this was tried before, a few years back... Buffalo Bike Taxi, I think it was called?
I saw one of these in Chicago bringing fans to the Cubs game. I bet these folks would be kept very busy ferrying people from the cheaper parking lots to Sabres games. (Assuming Buffalo Place doesn't decide to squash this at the behest of their parking lot owners.)
If Buffalo Place squashed it they'd be nuts.
This is an excellent idea, and you could really make a killing if you set up hubs and start taking people from Hertel to Delaware Park to Elmwood to Allentown to the Harbor. Discount for all five stops. Goldmine in the summer, considering the potential for repeat customers and the disposable income in those areas.