Real Estate July 16, 2012 3:33 PM

Dino BBQ Picks Franklin Street Location

Dino BBQ Picks Franklin Street Location

Dinosaur Bar-B-Que has landed.  Finally.  The Syracuse-based restaurant has been eyeing the Buffalo market for a couple of years and rumors have been flying on where exactly they would end up.  The company is heading to 301 Franklin Street, a building owned by Mark Croce north of the Chippewa Entertainment District that used to store film reels according to The Buffalo News.  The 7,200 sq.ft. location will seat approximately 180 diners.

 

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Dinosaur Bar-B-Que opened in Syracuse in 1988 and in Rochester 1998. Harlem followed in 2004 and then Troy in November 2010.  Their first out-of-state opened in Newark, NJ in May.  Brooklyn and Stamford, CT locations are also planned.

"I've been working with John Stage [Dinosaur CEO] for two years showing them properties," says Croce.  "Everyone under the sun was trying to land them.  They were a pleasure to work with and were very particular with their search.  John goes with his gut and doesn't need demographics to tell him where the best location is.  He wanted to be off the beaten path but close to the action."

Croce says 301 Franklin is an ideal spot being close to the Medical Campus, downtown and the Theater District.  It is a location that Croce dubbed "restaurant row" fifteen or so years ago when his Coliseum complex opened in 1996.  Today, Franklin Street is home to Laughlin's, Rue Franklin, Chop House, Baccus, Bambino's, Soho Burger Bar and others. 

Croce said Franklin Street is only improving including his ongoing work at Statler City and future work at the Curtiss Building. 

"One building at a time," adds Croce, "we are making the city vibrant again."
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Awesome!

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I like it. The location in Rochester looks great and I'm sure they'll do a fantastic job here too. It's got plenty of easy access to parking, hotels and it's far enough from Chippewa that I won't mind going.

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It's nine feet from Chippewa.

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As a former UofR undergrad, I can tell you that the rochester location was/is awesome... a bit undersized, but very cool.

Amazing food. This will be bad for me, health-wise.

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Man total bummmer on the location. I love that it is in the city proper but totally wished it was like canalside or closer to the area. That's what that area needs. I love Dino but come on!!!! Atleast it looks like a rehab project! that is totally cool. A little sad with the location

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I agree, or at least in the Statler or that old brick house on Delaware near Huron. Franklin St. is like no mans land (too many empty lots and little foot traffic).

replied to ohnobuffalo
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I totally agree, but I'd bet business' are a little taken back by the "Community Agree" that community activists are pushing for the Canalside business. It's going to be interesting to see which business dips their foot in that pond first. Also, I bet this was picked because of the easy access to parking, just sayin.

replied to ohnobuffalo
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i like the rochester location for the fact it's not sitting in or adjacent to a parking lot (and it's on the river). syracuse is very urban too. No doubt parking is important to both locations (i think there is a garage nearby in rochester) but this area just looks like one big parking lot as if there was little other consideration.

replied to Up and coming
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The reason that location is a bummer is because we demolished over 50% of the buildings on Franklin! I'm glad that one is standing to be reused.

replied to ohnobuffalo
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Can someone explain the obsession with this Dinosaur BBQ place? What is the significance?

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It is the Trader Joe's of bbq, nuff said....

replied to davvid
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So.. It's mediocre yet for some reason trendy people bust a nut over it.

replied to YesSir
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Nothing mediocre about Dino BBQ or Trader Joe's. Your comment on the other hand...

replied to NorthBuf
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Trader Joe's is basically an aldi that markets to the upper end. Same food different target. The only people that get so excited over TJ don't know any better so I guess I can't hold it against them

replied to ladyinwhite
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Trader Joes is not that similar to Aldi. It is a natural food store with reasonable pricing. Trader Joes is to Whole Foods what Aldi is to Wegmans. Trader Joes is amazing if you are into healthy and gourmet foods at decent price points. We would be so lucky to get it.

Dinosaur BBQ is great. It is not in cut rate in the slightest.

replied to NorthBuf
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Well, Trader Joe's is owned by Aldi. Possibly that was the point of the comment, I don't know.

replied to Lukia Costello
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Dinosaur has a cult following, and draws large crowds of diners and fun-seekers to downtown areas. That's a GOOD THING. End of story.

You might say that some other BBQ joint is more authentic, more local, or more whatever, but they don't operate the kind of restaurant with the atmosphere and location that draws the same crowds of Dinosaur. People going downtown want more than just some Kentucky Greg's-like place with generic Buffalo Hotel Supply furnishings, and Dinosaur provides it where others generally don't.

Sure, it would be nice if Fat Bob's opened a larger location closer to downtown. They didn't. That's fine. Just like an older generation of Buffalonians said you could never have too many red sauce Italian restaurants, I say you can't have enough barbecue.

replied to NorthBuf
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The next time you do ribs (assuming you "do" ribs), try the Habanero-infused Dinosaur Wango Tango BBQ sauce. You'll dig it.

replied to davvid
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Not just ribs. That's sauce is good with anything. Put it on a banana, it'll be good.

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Thanks for the tip, I will try it when I get the opportunity.

My other half is from N.Carolina and takes BBQ pretty seriously. I know nothing about the stuff and have pretty much no opinion, so I appreciate the advice.

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That whole stretch of Franklin has a negative vibe.. it's a wasteland. Hopefully Dino BBQ will help but there is a definite need for improvements to the cityscape. I know they like edgy locations but this is neither edgy or attractive. Hopefully that will start to change.

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It's a great location - the entertainment area around his restaurants need one more hotel option closer to Shea's and the other theater and restaurants..... Also I hope the Curtis building rehab boutique is still going to happen- great building, great concept and even a quicker ROI than the statler ...... That corner as a 60 room boutique could be at capacity most of the time and will look amazing with a little TLC

replied to nyc
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that is one ass-ugly building! No windows and a square one story box. I was hoping for canalside/cobblestone area or at least the old Ya Ya.

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The building actually has some nice mid-century detailing and an engaged pillar right at the entrance. Walk past it. What's bad is that we demolished everything else on the street!

replied to schvanstuchen
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It's a smart location for a destination restaurant, as well as halfway between Chippewa and the BNMC. As a property owner in the general area, love that one more vacant (at least underutilized) property is being eliminated.

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What a totally lame, uninspiring location. Obviously they don't owe anybody anything and a sea of parking was their biggest determinant... But I think some here were hoping for something a little more from a place with a history of upstate urban locations and some deep pockets to actually do something innovative. Bleh.

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I agree, it's a little disappointing but you said it...and some deep pockets to actaully do something innovative....I'm gonna try and wait to hold judgement until I see what they actually do to the place. It could end up looking great!

replied to townline
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Fair enough.

replied to millertime486
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You know, I think they could have definitely used the old TRICO building for their re-use. There's tons of architectural history in that building (which Dino loves), and even though it may be a little big, they could bulldoze at least half of it and turn that into surface parking for the restaurant. They'd get tons of business from the medical campus! It is too bad they missed out on the opportunity, the TRICO building seems perfect for this kind of re-use, am I right?

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Oh def, all they'd have to do is fight the bleeding heart preservationists and the many lawsuits that would follow. They'd then have to come up with millions of dollars for chemical removal and renovations. I bet that project would easily be 100 times more expensive. I bet Goldman reno's this place for around 100k and rents to them for 10-15 a month, while taking 2-3 of the revenue.

replied to theincrediblehoek
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You will need a brigade of exterminators to take on that building. The Wonderland of Rats and friends.

replied to Up and coming
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This is a great location!

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I think it's an awesome location for Dino BBQ. People won't care where they are, they'll come for the food. Their reputation precedes them. So why not go into an old, empty, lame looking building? Overnight you'll turn that old, empty, lame looking building into another restaurant jewel in the theater district (that's right, I said "jewel", their BBQ is that good).

Save the waterfront and canalside locations for other businesses. I'll go there for the location. I'll go to 301 Franklin for the food.

Love it!!!

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I called this move like what, 4 weeks ago?

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You said main st. dumbass.

replied to 5to81ALLDAY
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I said Theatre district dumbass

replied to Polonia
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I think this building will look a lot different once Dinosaur BBQ has finished renovating it. And it wouldn't surprise me if they acquire some of that parking lot space to build an outdoor patio space.

I think the location is a bit odd, too (it really does look like ground zero of the parking lot A-bomb), but Dinosaur BBQ will definitely liven things up in the area. Franklin Street has seen several new businesses open up in the past year or so. It seems like the street is gaining some positive momentum, and this will help spur that along.

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Very good location choice. Will be a real injection of Vibrancty here. Look for more businesses on this block.

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You guys seriously think its going to look anything like this when its all done in a year?!??!?

It will be done and done well.. Dinosaur BBQ wouldnt put a dive restaurant in after all the hype.

Its ok to not have everything localized in one area (ie harbor), infact this happens to be close to my favorite place in town: bambino bar n kitchen!.. so I cant wait!

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This building was originally built to be a film exchange -- one of many in Buffalo. That's the reason for the emphasis on fireproof construction in the detail from the Sanborn (fire insurance) map shown above. You know, nitrate film and all -- not just flammable, but downright explosive.

Check out the quote below -- info from the Buffalo Film Festival:
http://www.buffalofilmfestival.com/pressrelease10012007.html

Buffalo was also an important Motion Picture Exchange from the turn of the Twentieth Century through the 1960s. Film Exchanges handled and shipped the 35mm prints of all the newest motion pictures and made sure that theaters from Syracuse to Cleveland, and from Erie to Toronto, had them on time and in perfect condition for each evening's programming. Pathe, Vitascope, Warner Brothers, MGM, Paramount and Universal all had offices in Buffalo along Franklin and Pearl Streets starting as early as 1906. Mr. Wachadlo pointed out nearly a dozen of them still standing, although now used for other purposes. The Warner Brothers' building on Franklin is now a restaurant.

Wow -- Buffalo had a film exchange district! Who knew--? Well, other than Martin Wachadlo ;-)

BTW, I bet "film exchange" is still written into the City's current, circa-1950s zoning code as a zoned use.

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You Rock Mr. ChaCha! :)

replied to RaChaCha
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No, YOU rock, Ms. Lee! #MutualYouRockSociety

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You girls.

replied to RaChaCha
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Thanks for sharing that Rachacha. Interesting to hear how some of the non-theater Theater District buildings were used. Storage of flammable materials at least partially explains why the building has such a heavy, fortress-like look.

replied to RaChaCha
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The location is ideal. It's downtown and it is occupying a previously abandoned building. Hopefully this will lead to...dare I say..new builds

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When you think about the location it is perfectly located to anchor downtown because now you have pearl street grill and one end of downtown , pan am bar and grill midtown and Dino's at the other end of downtown. Now we need true waterfront anchor restaurant in the rebuilt Donovan building

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Put a Cheesecake Factory in the Donovan and the Canadians will sh*t their pants with excitement.

replied to Rcc
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lol, great comment. So true.

replied to Polonia
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I'm Canadian; Oh boy! A Cheesecake Factory in the Donovan ooooh where do I quew up!

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This is a business that people have wanted here for a decade. They are renovating an old and long vacant building downtown. It's a business that people from all over Erie and Niagara Counties will come downtown to visit. It happened in both of their Syracuse and Rochester locations. There are a lot of vacant properties downtown. We want them all full of tenants. This is going to eliminate one of them.

How can anyone who wants Buffalo to "rise" complain about this?

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Well, restaurants want to locate near high traffic 24 hour areas and for right now thats the Chippewa District.

It would have been a great COUP for the Larkin District or Canalside...but those areas arent developed yet.

I do believe that the Chippewa area is going to migrate into a mature restaurant-theater district as the offices continue to infill.

Either Canalside or an area around the Buffalo Casino....but that isnt going to happen for awhile.

The Convention Center needs to relocate...more conversion of office space to residential...more new construction of office space...its all going to have an impact where people will accept theaters, they will accept restaurants but the extremely loud music, endless cruising, drugs, alcohol and vomit for 20 somethings wont mix with higher end residential. Basically they will want the activity of Hertel and Elmwood but at a more mature pace. Its the frenetic immature nightclubbing is what will eventually move.

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Where will the new 20 something district be? Because it isn't going to be chippewa for long.

replied to paulsobo
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I truly hope Chippewa becomes more of a restaurant/theater destination than what it is now. Living at the end of Chippewa I can tell you first hand that it is not what it used to be. Walk down there on a weekend night and tell me you're not somewhat concerned for your safety. It used to be filled with a bunch of South Buffalo D-bags who would get into fist fights occasionally but now its full of East side thugs who simply shoot at you. Get rid of the dance clubs and the Thursday all ages night and add a few more restaurants and I imagine this area will transform dramatically.

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PISTOL PACKIN' PUNKS! --Irv

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Well, Id say that the Buffalo Seneca Creet Casino area would have been a logical choice for a RED LIGHT 24/7 district.

There would be no problem with other bars being open till 4AM.

The Casino has no windows and private parking...so no problems from walkers, traffic, night club lights, pedestrians, loud music....etc. The Casino can be as isolated or integrated as it wants. There are few residents to complain either as there are downtown.

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it's the Pizzeria Uno of bbq..not bad but nothing really great either.. just replace the mall shopping suburban white folks with a few more Harley riding, mustang sally listening [deleted]

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As a buffalo business owner who has moved locations once or twice to better my services for clients... It seems like all people do in this city, which i was born and raised in, do is find a fault in absolutely any and everything good or even decent that happens. Progress is progress, please stop bitching and moaning. If you do not like trader joes or dinosaur BBQ or elmwood, or grant, or hertel, open your own business down at the freaking waterfront and shut up.

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Yep, that's ALL people do in Buffalo. Never mind the vast majority of comments on this thread clapping their hands at the location. They're probably all from North Carolina or Orchard Park.

replied to seriously
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P.S. Dinosaur I am sure you will make wonderful improvements to the building. Welcome to Buffalo!!!

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PROBABLY..the worst location it could of found...Elmwood / Hertel would have been much better, even a Canalside location would have been a better fit for Buffalo...is Dinosaur gonna stay open til 3am to attract the rowdy drunks ?? probably not...if it has good business sense. Who ever/ corporate/ rep chose this site needed a lot more info before choosing this location!!

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McDonald's and other fast food style restaurants need to be located in high traffic areas (see planned Panera on Elmwood as of this morning for a further example). You probably think the Anchor Bar would do better on Elmwood/Hertel.

Draw concentric circles around the location, factor in population and disposable income, wanting to be in the city, and you come up with this spot. The city is improving across the board, not in just the little enclaves that people find trendy.

replied to joey d
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mmmm BBQ!

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would have liked to see this open by the canal but no complaints bringing more people in the city. love their hot bbq sauce mmmmmmmm

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The Pork-sket... Coming next summer to downtown Buffalo... !

Can't wait!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Le7a5QwSMwo

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What's so bad about the location? Have any of you actually seen where the Syracuse location is? It's not exactly loaded with foot traffic, nor is there a lot of parking. But amazingly there is always a long wait there. Dinosaur is the type of place you could shove pretty much anywhere and people will show up.

People claim that it's become mediocre since they went corporate. I personally have always enjoyed the food and the atmosphere there, especially at the Syracuse location. Yes it's a chain now, so is the Shake Shack but that's still pretty good too. I wouldn't consider either of these places in the same category as Pizzeria UNO, but to each his own I suppose.

I can't quite figure out what everyone is complaining about. Another vacant building is filled, with a business that many people will frequent. So it's near parking...big deal. Most of Buffalo is near parking. It's a city of 250,000 people built for about 500,000. There is bound to be some parking nearby.

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Maybe I am too easy but at least it's not going to the Eastern Hills or Galleria malls. This is a good central down town location for a restaurant that will draw people from all over the area. If the mission is draw people into the city from outside of it, mission accomplished. I personally was hoping for canal side or cobblestone area, but it's not my dicsion to make. I am not complaining about this move. Welcome to Buffalo Dinosauer BarBQ.

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I really think this is a great location for not only Dinosaur BBQ, but any restaurant wanting to capture business from multiple populations/communities. If they are successful I can only see good things coming to this “wasteland” (as someone earlier characterized the area). Perhaps we will see some of the surface lots disappear as this stretch becomes more desirable . . . one can dream and hope!

I am pleased that this building was chosen. It’s a far more remarkable building than some of the folks that have criticized know. Besides its hearty construction and interesting history (thanks, RaChaCha), the simple details on the front of the building have a subtle regality to them that I think give it the coolest vibe. Great choice and I cannot wait to see new life breathed into this structure.

Welcome to the Buff, Dinosaur!

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You're welcome -- I agree with you.

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Normally I'd say "Awesome" but the fact that George Soros investment firm owns 70% of this company is disgeartening because he has done nothing but try to manipulate the direction of politics in this fine country. Soros is a disaster and the fact Dinosaur is affiliated with that is sad.

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More ribs for me then!

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Good. I doubt tin foil hats are in the dress code.

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I really fail to see why people are complaining over the location. Due to the success of the Hotel Lafayette, those businesses who couldn't find a location within the hotel are seeking to relocate to the neighboring Brisbane Building. The Larkin District was a wasteland until Howard Zemsky and company poured money into the area. Why can't the same happen with Dinosaur BBQ? Perhaps Franklin Street will see growth, as well. If Buffalo is to be successful, shouldn't all areas be successful? I mean what good is your body if your heart works great but your kidneys fail, right? I'd really appreciate it if people stop complaining and allow John Stage to do what he thinks is best. After all, he has a proven track record. The only thing the naysayers do best is tell others how to run their businesses. Geez, you would think most commentators on this website were Fortune 500 CEO's.

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I seem to recall hearing about a very popular wine bar on Elmwood that decided to move out to Amherst after the landlord tripled the rent on Elmwood. Perhaps the Dinosaur BBQ folks (and I'm sure they do their research) decided that this would be less likely if they picked a spot that is not located where rents are so high. Besides, with all the development from the medical campus, the location on Franklin is only going to get more valuable, both in terms of property and the expanding customer base.

There are plenty of successful restaurants in Buffalo that aren't right next door to otherwise popular areas: Left Bank, Olivers....heck, people drive from all over the place to go to Salvatores on Transit.

I've been to the Dinosaur locations in Rochester, Albany, and Harlem, and the latter two are in off-the-beaten path locations. The Harlem one is in a seedy area, but they always have a long line. Buffalo is seeing some great development and getting interest from national chains. Let's be happy about it.

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> I've been to the Dinosaur locations in Rochester, Albany, and Harlem, and the latter two are in off-the-beaten path locations.

Even the Syracuse location is a bit off the beaten path. Its about a ten minute walk from Armory Square.

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I think it's more important for them to be near a highway, take a look at each of their locations. Every single one is near a state highway.


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Yep JM, this part of Franklin is very near the 33 via Tupper. Good point.

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Well, to be fair, all of the New York's major cities had their downtowns carved up by state highways, so I don't think they had any choice in that matter.

replied to JM
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Look at a map from above, and you'll see the locations are obviously located near 2 State roads most of the time. Zoom out if you really think all these Cities are covered in highway and you'll see plenty of area not a few blocks from a Highway.

Syracuse
Rochester
Harlem
Troy

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Harlem is an unusual case because of the nature of Manhattan, but I stand by my original statement that you cannot be in the urban core (i.e., "downtown") of any of the Erie Canal / Thruway cities (Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Utica, Troy, Albany, etc.) without being near an expressway that was built in the Robert Moses era.

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Dan mentioned how they are usually off the beaten path and not near the 'hip areas' like Armory Square, they are often centered between that area and the closest interstate. I'm talking 1 turn from exit and within 5 blocks.

That was a response to a suggestion that they located to Elmwood, which is an example to disprove your point. Elmwood is as far away from highways as possible since it's surrounded, but keep in mind Forest is half a mile from the 198, so from there to Allentown wouldn't be as convenient.

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WeAretheNormal ─ Hear! Hear!

My only addition to your comments would be exclamation points.

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I'll stick with Fat Bob's.

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It's a great location - the entertainment area around his restaurants need one more hotel option closer to Shea's and the other theater and restaurants..... Also I hope the Curtis building rehab boutique is still going to happen- great building, great concept and even a quicker ROI than the statler ...... That corner as a 60 room boutique could be at capacity most of the time and will look amazing with a little TLC

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Statler exterior sill looks like crap. Scaffolding etc. makes it look like its still abandoned.

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If the scaffolding outside the Statler is bothering you then Police HQ must really have you ticked. It's been there for a couple years with no sign of work being done.

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I could not be happier with the location. Every time I walk by 301 Franklin it jumps out at me as a building that I hope will be reused. The Deco front entrance is actually quite attractive. It is also a great location since it is easily walkable from the Theater District, Chippewa and Allentown. Dinosaur BBQ is an attraction that brings people to it. In the end I think it will benefit Buffalo more on Franklin than it would have in Canalside.

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Looking forward to having Dinosaur Bar-B-Que in Buffalo, good location!

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