City June 19, 2012 2:10 PM

Update: Judge Blocks Busti Demos

Update: Judge Blocks Busti Demos

The Campaign for Greater Buffalo History, Architecture & Culture is filing suit against the Public Bridge Authority (PBA) in New York State Supreme Court to prevent demolition of a row of historic houses on Busti Avenue. The PBA wants to demolish the row for an access road to a new Duty Free store it wants to build on the present site of the Episcopal Church Home, itself a designated City of Buffalo Landmark. A hearing on a Temporary Restraining Order (TRO) will be heard Tuesday, June 19, 2012 before Justice Joseph Glownia (Part 6, 3rd floor, 92 Franklin St.).  (Restraining order approved- see below)

Byron Brown made a public announcement about the situation stating that he wants a halt on the demolition until the PBA shows concrete plans for the site before they can proceed, but Congressman Brian Higgins believes that halting the demolition is standing in the way of progress. Yesterday Higgins called on WNY leaders, residents, and businesses to join him in the "fight against the inertia."  He cited how a new deal in Detroit, announced last week, to build an international bridge should serve as an example for Buffalo to follow suit and additional delays should not be tolerated.

"While Western New York is finding ways to block, other communities are finding ways to build," said Congressman Higgins.  "The complacency and resistance to change that has been pervasive in Buffalo for fifty years will continue to cost us if we don't act now." The project in Detroit will create about 12,000 jobs per year during the four year construction period and would generate 8000 permanent jobs upon completion. "Incessant squabbling only leads to inertia," said Higgins, "Be it the waterfront, the Peace Bridge or the Buffalo Niagara Medical Campus, it is time to fight against the fight and together fight for progress and all the good that comes with it."

Higgins' recent infrastructure bill has been projected to create 27 million jobs over the next 5 years and $400 billion in economic activity the first year alone. He asserted, "Public infrastructure is a public responsibility. In addition to historically low rates of borrowing, the "cost acceleration" of delaying road and bridge repair increases by 500% after only two years. Put simply, a $5 million bridge repair project will cost $25 million in 2014. The time to rebuild America is now, actually right now."

The Campaign and many others feel differently about the impact of the demolitions and the potential for harmful pollution to increase in the adjacent neighborhood with an expansion. The Campaign contends that the Public Bridge Authority has failed to file undertake the proper environmental review as required by the New York State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA).  "The PBA claims it can demolish our historic landmarks and neighborhoods as it pleases, without regard to proper review and consent at the state and federal levels. They are wrong, said Campaign Executive Director Tim Tielman, "and their actions are wrong."

Three of the houses being targeted are eligible for the National Register of Historic Places, including the locally landmarked Samuel Wilkeson House. It is an excellent example of the Tuscan Villa style and was home to Colonel Samuel Henry Wilkeson (grandson of Judge Samuel Wilkeson, the most significant of Buffalo's founding fathers). The house at 771 Busti is the last physical link to the Wilkesons in Buffalo.

Campaign Assistant for Special Projects Dana Saylor says, "To lose this house, as well as the other significant structures in the Prospect Hill Historic District, would be a travesty. The Public Bridge Authority Directors fail to understand the importance of this district, and their actions show only a concern with perpetuating the PBA, rather than serving bridge users and the citizens of Buffalo and New York State."

UPDATE: State Supreme Court Justice Joseph Glownia today issued a temporary restraining order halting the demolition of seven houses owned by the PBA along Busti Avenue.  More on wgrz.com

 

 

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"progress and all the good that comes with it"... isnt that what they said about the 33?

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Build your bridge Bryan just not in a neighborhood. Also I am not so sure Detroit is a city I want to emulate. I so enjoy loking at the empty tee to green and The Pratt and Lambert buildings from the 198. Bring your commerce over that bridge. As far as the duty free store I walk by it many times a day and don't see any need for a larger one.

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Ditto.

Maybe my crystal ball needs to be windex'd, but I think Detroit's new bridge is anything but a done deal. I'm sure we're lengthy lawsuits away from seeing that bridge built. Unless of course Matty Moron isn't as worried as he should be.

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I understand the mockery of Detroit the reality is a good amount of the local economy and the future of the local economy depends on the connection to Canada.

Not saying anything other than mocking Detroit for not only realizing the opportunity with Canada but also acting on it is really not funny. It's rather sad that D-town is going to get the connection figured out before Buffalo.

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"Put simply, a $5 million bridge repair project will cost $25 million in 2014."

really?

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Higgins is developing a track record for sensationalizing the need for mega infrastructure without really having any understanding of its impacts. See Route 5 and its "Olmsted-like Parkway." (What does Olmsted-like mean, Brian? A tree-lined parkway next to a superhighway? Just like Olmsted always imagined!!!) He also used to tout the future maintenance costs of the skyway as an argument to tear it down. Until he decided to support connecting it to the new limited access highway - so then he decided to forget about those crazy maintenance costs.

Higgins just wants to get major projects done. Doesn't really matter whether its a good idea or not. That's exactly what this country has been doing since World War II - and look what it has done to the places we live...

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Really? You're going to rip him on that?
Have you not noticed that EVERY government-funded project vastly underestimates its cost?

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was i ripping him? I was just exasperated by 500% increase in two years. Is that sensationalism or is that real? I don't know, but it does seem insane!
And according to Higgins it has nothing to do with underestimating the cost of the project as you state.

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Higgins is (intentionally?) conflating the demolition of these houses with the building of a new bridge.

As far as I understand, the project to replace the Peace Bridge with a new bridge was abandoned. The only plan currently offered is to expand the plaza with an giant Duty Free Shop.

Higgins should be more honest about what is actually happening here, and not try to stir up popular emotions that still linger on over the "signature bridge" issue.

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Im amazed how much people use the 33 as an opportunity to complain about past design mistakes and apply it to everything. This is not the 33 and it does not have the same physical effect or scale of impact of the 33. Instead of complaining about the 33 why hasnt the community made a strong effort to correct the issues caused by the 33 instead of just complainig about it? How many decades have gone by? In the meantime extremely large scale projects elsewhere in this Country have been considered, studied, studied again and built. If the 33 was an utter failure then nobody would use it. It seems to get alot of use so from a utility perspective has value in WNY. The question I guess becomes design and how it can better fit there. Where is the effort to cover it up and re-establish a parkway with traffic running below underground? It blows me away when I go on organized tours of the city and the same folks that use the opportunity to preach about how terrible the 33 is are actually using the 33 to get tourists around the city by bus. Its laughable. Where is the focus on real large scale projects resulting in substantive change? Instead it seems like everything is embattled.

Regarding the peace bridge I guess the community might as well back away from the whole concept all together because afterall the population of Buffalo is well on its way to 250K and then under 200K. Maybe WNY is best even more insulated and isolated and cut off. Perhaps an effort should be made so international traffic actually bypasses WNY all together! Just let it go to collapse into the Niagara River. Are there commitments and buyers lined up to purchase the homes, renovate them and maintain them? Whats the long term plan in an area with fewer and fewer people?

WNY needs to work together with common goals and be rational and reasonable, trying to accomodate everyone as much as possible and then move forward. Otherwise there remains too many examples of these 10-20 year long drawn out projects tied in court, revision revision, study, revision followed by another study, lawsuit followed by lawsuit. Its just ridiculous.

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well there is one vote for the duty-free store.


and for enormous sums of money, yes we can fix the 33. But realistically everyone knows that getting money for a project like that is incredibly difficult. How about we just avoid the mistake in the first place instead of trying the impossible and devoting huge public resources in the future to fix the problem.

and give me a freaking break. Who determined that truck traffic expansion was best handled at the peace bridge where an existing historic city neighborhood exists? Maybe that's where the vision is lacking.

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Among the most common-sensible two sentences I've noticed anybody else write on here lately:
flyguy>"If the 33 was an utter failure then nobody would use it. It seems to get alot of use so from a utility perspective has value in WNY."

Getting to or from the airport and most parts of Buffalo usually within 15 minutes is great. Convenient access to Walden Galleria and our eastern burbs, plus them having convenient trips to most of Buffalo - that's a good thing for the region and frequently used as flyguy noted.

Personally, I'd extend that same thought to also include the Skyway, the 190, and the elevated limited access Route 5. As a city resident I find all of those very useful at times, and it's difficult to believe I'm the only one here who does. Even Higgy's new little parkway-ish side road in the outer harbor seems pretty good so far as well.

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yeah and the construction and expansion of highways parallels the general decline of the city and region. Therefore the benefit of expressways such as the 33 is almost non-existent in the grand scheme of things. It's done practically nothing for the city and the region. We now have one of most efficient highways systems of any city, and look where we are. Big freaking deal, of course people use it.


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c'mon man, seriously?

nyc>"the construction and expansion of highways parallels the general decline of the city and region."

http://stats.org/in_depth/faq/causation_correlation.htm

Construction/expansion of highways (to an even greater extent) also happened during the same time frame in countless regions that haven't had our decline - quite the opposite in many cases. What's any proof that our region wouldn't have had even more decline without them?

Geez, what next - blame the McKinley shooting or the Flutie curse?

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My point wasn't to blame the construction of highways for the general decline of the region. I'm just saying that we haven't seen the benefit and so why bend over backwards for more highway infrastructure (or duty free shops?) when there is no evidence that having such great highway infrastructure is of a larger economic benefit to greater Buffalo.

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nyc, once again just because you apparently are claiming the region's & city's businesses & people have had no benefit from transportation efficiencies via those highways doesn't mean it's true. No offense, but it sounds bizarre to claim there's been no benefit at all even if you'd prefer a highway-free Buffalo for other reasons. As I said, there's no way to prove the area's decline you cite wouldn't have have been even deeper.

For just one very small quick example - are you familiar at all with the Ford plant in Hamburg which makes parts then trucked to an assembly plant in Oakvillle ON? Don't you suppose having a highway connection from that plant to a border bridge is a good efficiency for that, at least helping in some way to keep those good manufacturing jobs still here all these years and decades?

And to put your characterization of the area's decline in context - it isn't as though this area is a total basket case at all. Looking at it objectively, it's a successful local economy in a lot of ways even though yes by comparison to most other U.S. metro areas our long term performance in jobs or regional GDP may not be as good. That's true about pretty much all metros in Upstate NY and the Rust Belt, for many reasons. I'm no cheerleader for this area, but it could be much worse.

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no, not claiming there has been no benefit at all. of course there has been benefit. and instead of 3rd poorest, Buffalo could be the most poor city in the nation without the highway infrastructure, I don't know. But if i put my money on it, i would bet it's plight would be much improved. And i am not arguing for no highways whatsoever, just better decision making when it comes to those highways. And of course people use the highways, the community over the last 60 years has evolved with that infrastructure in place, so you can't just say, well ha! you use the 33! Of course people use it.

But there are many cities that are very successful with limited (or inefficient) highway infrastructure. And there are a million variables that influence the success of any city or region and so there is no way to say exactly where Buffalo would be. But what highways have done for Buffalo is to decentralize it.. they haven't helped prop up industry (mostly gone), it hasn't strengthened downtown, it hasn't revitalized neighborhoods with convenient access. It's mostly just allowed development push to the hinterlands. I just don't see the benefit of impacting yet another neighborhood with highway based infrastructure.

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Oh boy, the "3rd poorest" again?
It seems half the time when that's mentioned by an urbanista on BR its to say why that's pretty meaningless and the other half the time it's trotted out as meaningful to push an argument like the need for a taxpayer funded multi-story glass organic food farm or to imply highways aren't very beneficial.

These have been mentioned before but maybe worth repeating....

- This region (Erie County) is very close to the U.S. national average for % of residents-below-poverty.

- In many other U.S. metros, the city bounds happen to include the kinds of neighborhoods that here are in our inner burbs. Thus a metro comparison is far more meaningful when comparing different places.

- The "3rd" is only among the 50 most populated "cities".
So for example, Rochester and Syracuse don't affect the rank even though they both have higher percents of residents-below-poverty than Buffalo's 29.6%, but those two aren't among the 50 most populated.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/3663000.html
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/36/3673000.html
(btw, that's also why some people In Roch and Syr were unimpressed with Gov. Cuomo's argument that Buffalo deserves a supposed extra billion from NYS taxpayers more so than either of those places do simply because we're supposedly the "3rd poorest"… even when both Roch and Syr are even poorer using the exact same measure. Hey, maybe we should blame the highways in Roch and Syr for being even worse than ours, lol)

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I am not trying to convince you that highways are to blame for buffalo's economic condition. But keep talking...whatever.

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Okay, and you can keep bringing up red herrings ("general decline of city and region", 3rd-poorest city), and then pretend you didn't at all relate them to the topic at hand.
-shrug-

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good grief.

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lol, ok nyc, I'll admit it's possible I was taking you too literally last week.

The 3rd-poorest thing is a pet peeve of mine. It seems used way too often way out of context (by Plantagon funding advocate, etc)

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Well, the thing of it is, how do you measure the benefits of the 33 in easily quantifiable terms? It certainly has its advantages as well. I can think of no better way to get to a place like ECMC or Sisters from the eastern suburbs or the east side in a hurry. A lot of city people certainly use it as well.
I think it's a tad simplistic to blame the decline of that part of the city on the 33. Plenty of areas of the east side declined even before the area around the 33. I don't doubt that having a busy expressway in your front yard would be a major disincentive to buying in that neighborhood, but somehow that part of the city managed to hold on longer than other parts of the east and west sides.
I any case, I know it comes up on here a lot about what a mistake it was to build the 33. But I don't think it's fair to dismiss it like that. At the time those people obviously thought it made perfect sense to build it. I think it's

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True, its funny that the Scajaquada cuts right through the nicest neighborhood in the City and it seems to be doing just fine.

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yeah right, it only needs a 1/4 mile of parkland on either side to buffer it.

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Eh, Asthma is good for you, builds character

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Damn those obstructionists -- whose 2 decades of intransigence have brought us to this point!!

All those so-called leaders who through their opposition or inaction have obstructed calls, going back to Pat Moynihan's original, to merge the redundant, self-serving bridge authorities into one entity -- an entity that could then take a _rational_ look at the best locations and modes for getting people & goods back and forth across the border.

Merger-curious? Read all about it:

http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/02/common-council-tuesday-stop-frackin-start-mergin.html

http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/03/support-building-for-another-effort-to-merge-bridge-authorities.html

http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/04/common-council-on-peace-bridge-in-their-own-words.html

http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/04/fort-erie-fires-back-on-bridge-merger-resolution.html

http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/03/maziarz-on-effort-to-merge-border-crossing-authorities.html

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Brian "high pants" Higgins just wants to continue attaching his name to large infrastructure projects, especially this one so that years down the line he can act like he was the one who 'finally got the Peace Bridge Project done after decades of delay".

If this were South Buffalo he would have a completely different postion. I am wondering when WNY Democratic leadership are going to wake up and find someone else to represent us. All the talented, smart people in this area and we are stuck with him?? Same goes for Byron Brown. They both need to go.

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"build!"
"demolish!"
"act now!"
"standing in the way of progress. . .and all the good that comes from it!

Sounds like Robert Moses is back.

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>standing in the way of progress. . .and all the good that comes from it

On the concept of "progress", has anyone read "Victims of Progress" by John Bodley? Or "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas Kuhn? I think of these when I hear the "P-mantra."

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Time to *demolish* the Peace Bridge. See the excellent Artvoice article advocating just that: http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/2012/06/19/demolish-the-peace-bridge/

Two great unintended consquence of this Modest Proposal: 1) death to one more redundant NYS revenue-collecting authority. 2) ability to start restoring the original waterfront of Olmstead's Front Park.

The Emperor has no Clothes! There is NO. . I repeat NO. . . lane problem on our bridges. We don't need another bridge *anywhere!* Just stand on the pier when you are able, day or night, and look. It is a *customs/immigration clearance* backlog.

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Lets call this exactly what it is: a continued political handout to a powerful monopoly.
Duty Free Americas is owned by the Falic family of Hollywood and Bar Harbor, Florida

Go here to see their political contributions since buying DFA in 2001: http://www.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml

Disclosed federal political contributions:

Simon Falic, $300,000
Jerome Falic $290,000
Leon Falic $250,000
Fima Falic $190,000
Debbie Falic $100,000 (wife of Jerome)
Gila Falic $40,000 (wife of Leon)

Also see: Nily Falic, Shana Falic, Lisa Falic, Jana Falic
I didn't have time to get their contributions or research their relationship.

Also, the current Buffalo Duty Free is only 7 years old.

Duty Free: a government sponsored monopoly and we are preparing to use our money to help them expand again?

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Thanks for doing that research. I always thought that the Duty Free was some sort of gov't agency. But it's just another private owned business? So we have to spend taxpayer money to support a private enterprise? Where are all the people against socialism now?

I agree -- the Lewiston-Queenston bridge should be expanded to handle truck traffic. There is more space there, and hey, the trucks will spend more time stateside than provinceside to boot! Why should Canada get all the pollution when we could claim it!

Of course, you know the moment that this is all built, we'll start building high speed cargo trains that will make trucks obsolete...

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A duty free can go anywhere. The only thing making such an argument possible is the stubborn nature of the PBA.

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2 points for obstruction! Tune in tomorrow for more highlights of today's game. Dear Buffalo - you are a joke. I love looking down at you and laughing about how you can't get out of your own way. Please excuse me while I tend to the two dozen high rises that are being bult on what used to be "historic places" in my down town. Love, Toronto.

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Highrise development providing jobs and homes for thousands - Truck inspections plaza... Meh, whats the difference?!?! Heck, this could all be for a garbage dump. Development = progress, right?!

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What are you talking about???? Buffalo has seen decades of progress. Half the city torn down for empty lots, expressways, or rite aides. We should be on a high perch preaching to pathetic Toronto and it's towering glass buildings. It is clear progress has been virtually unimpeded in Buffalo for many many years. Toronto has nothing on Buffalo for getting things done.

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"Restraining order approved" YESSSS!!!

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Brian if you want to do something that will make a difference how about getting the bridge to the outer harbor built and not taking the easy way by using Ohio street

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"Half the city torn down for empty lots"- kind of makes sense considering the city is half its original size and one of the poorest in the entire country and even post communist russian visitors for hockey tournaments have compared a number of its neighborhoods to post communist russia durnig the fallout years. I dont like to be negative on here but sometimes Buffalo does have the ability to bring out that other side.

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TYPICAL...BUFFALO....the Courts decide just about everything in the name of progress here in Buffalo... the anal of the North...why not just empty out City Hall...and fill it with a Court of Litigation...and Judges...we dont need politicians anyway...every decision is made by a Court rendering anyway!

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Did he really say that 27 MILLION jobs will be created by his bill over 5 years? That is over 5 million a year. He is going to regret saying that because it won't happen.

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Did he really say that 27 MILLION jobs will be created by his bill over 5 years? That is over 5 million a year. He is going to regret saying that because it won't happen.

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Progress would have been coming up with a multi-state initiative to upgrade the 219 down into southwest Virginia to pick up a catchment of logistics and tourists spreading into Virginia, Tennessee, North and South Carolina, and Georgia, tying down into Rt 81 establishing a direct line north with to an international crossing targeted for the Peace Bridge so a mass amount of interstate commerce and travel traffic would come into the Buffalo area instead of going elsewhere. Look at the major interstate north-south direct routes from the Atlantic Ocean heading west on mapquest or whatever. You have the I-95 corridor, to the west of that I-81, and then to some extent Rt 15 heading out of central PA and then a huge gap leading into western new york where back roads and rural routes are king, before picking up Rt 79 extending from Morgantown WV through Pittsburg to the 90. I think WNY would benefit from a deep diving east coast route to access areas where populations are growing and commercial growth has tended to gravitate. Aside from east-west NYS 90, WNY is cutoff and isolated.

The A new Peace Bridge with deck for vehicular and rail traffic would have also benefited from being the chief high speed rail crossing into Canada and most direct to Toronto.

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More roads is always the best answer to every problem facing America.

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Higgins and others need to know that to drive from Toronto to Atlanta, GA, and places west, it is shorter to travel through Detroit. Atlanta is west of Detroit. No trucker from Toronto is going to drive to Detroit to go to Boston!

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And if he is going to Boston he is not leaving any jobs behind in Buffalo. Truck parking lot does not equal jobs or progress.

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Isn't this the same group that attempted to stop Pano's expansion because it was going to demolish a house they considered significant? Talk about adding a 24/7 urban vibe to a street. They certainly were wrong on that issue.

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Pano's adds a 24/7 "urban vibe" to Elmwood?

Because Elmwood was such a wasteland before his expansion?

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And you know what that block was like before because you remember the old restaurant? I dare say not else you wouldn't make that comment.

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In all fairness that last block of Elmwood is pretty dumpy. Between the row of unkempt houses/stores on the east side of the road and the vibrant black color of Goodbar, the new Pano's certainly has improved the overall vibe of that stretch.

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I don't know the full story so someone can correct me but as i remember Panos planned to tear down the house and replace with a patio with awning and additional parking. A horrible trade-off for a great house. With all the public push back Pano came back to the table with what we see today. How and why he came back with something far better isn't totally clear to me as I definitely opposed the initial plan, but that seemed to be a situation where a little push back ultimately resulted in a much better project.

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You apparently don't know the full story. To build what you see there now, he had to go to the appeals court in Rochester, because the plaintiffs refused to compromise on the issue. Construction start shortly after the ruling was handed down.

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and the result is great, good project for Elmwood. Thanks for filling in on the detail.

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the plaintiff was pano. he sued the city when his demo permit was denied. no one sued pano.

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You are wrong on that one. That is why Pano had to go to the appeals court in Rochester. To overturn the ruling on the Buffalo court.

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Once again Buffalo politicians and judges stand in the way of positive progress. Anybody want to buy a historic property on Busti? Drop 70-100 grand on renovations and then breathe in the diesel exhaust.

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Elmwood was always a mixed residential and commercial street but it was strongly residential. Today it is mostly commercial.

Grant and Niagara were strongly commerical with little residential. Its these streets where commercial development should be encouraged.

Truck plazas do not equal jobs. This bridge has been around for almost 100 years and will be around for 100 more. With 100 years of bridge revenue they could put the truck plaza underground with a park on top.

with the cost of delays...they could have put it underground with a park on top.

At this point, the cost over runs are purely on the willful and selfish and autocratic nature of the bridge authority. If they had taken the more expensive path and incorporated the wishes of the community...they would have built good will and in the long run saved money they spend opposing the community.

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NICE JOB. Keep the good news coming.

A giant truck parking lot in the middle of a historic neighborhood is not the kind of "progress" we want. Urban renewal and cramming of freeways through parks was called "progress" as well in its day, and look where that got us.

There's plenty of positive progress going on in Buffalo. See: Lafayette Hotel. If Higgins wants progress, he can start to focus on promoting positive things like that. Until he understands this, he needs to leave the city alone.

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Higgins is way off on this one. These houses should be saved.

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And if Elmwood was full of buildings like Pano's we would have parking lots between every business. Let's demolish every other building. Have half the number of businesses. Half as many people employed, half the taxes collected. And each of those businesses would be rewarded with a quarter million dollar loan from whatever city agency replaced BERC.

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Except for the fact the parking lot was there with the original restaurant.

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Im sure that Panos rakes in more property tax and sales tax revenue than all the houses north of it combined. So take that into account and lets rip those SOB's down and get on with it.

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Only the parking lot to the south.

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Continental 1 is joke. Interstate 79 already comes up to Interstate 90. Co-brand I-90 between Erie and Buffalo with I-79 and rename I-190 as I-79. This way I-79 would go from Lewstion (Canadian border) down to Charleston. Continental-1 would meet I-79 in Morgantown anyways. The difference is less than 40 miles I believe.

What benefits will pushing a 4 lane divided highway through nowhere NY and nowhere PA do but waste billions of dollars in construction and billions more in upkeep?

(((Speaking of which, I finally drove the 219 extension on a drive down to State College PA. Why build those multi-million dollar bridges to go 1 mile past Zoar Valley? By the time the next unneeded extension happens they will be needing major work anyways.)))

All these projects exist just to support the other with no real benefit to any of the regional areas much less the local areas that are having these pushed into them.

The most logical first step is one authority controlling all 4 bridges and handling the logistics of moving traffic across all four of them. anything more should be "no go". Capacity expansion projects can then be presented where they make the most sense instead of just to prop up the financials of one of the bridges.

For those upset with taxes and government spending, the Peace Bridge and US 219 projects are the biggest waste of money there is.

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I wonder how much the judge was paid off for this decision. I would guess low four figures

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I wonder how much the judge was paid off for this decision. I would guess low four figures

Lighten Up YesSir, It's a temporary Restraning order until July 6. A whole 2 weeks...The PBA has had 15 years to the let the builsdings deteriorate.

The bottom line is this expansion is nothing more than to build a new duty free.

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I light up all the time

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In all fairness that last block of Elmwood is pretty dumpy.....What ever happened to the Hotel at Elmwood and Forest. The Hans Mobius Village still stands. There could have been alot more years for Don Aparel

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applebees.


don't tear down the grain elevators.
it is too hard.
don't even save them.
leave them alone.
their time will come.
they are the only thing that makes this city different.

as one young girl said:
"They are like our mountains"

relax. time heals and revives.
don't be so fast to demolish.

I once saw a dynamiting of a grain mill.
It was so strong, it wouldn't fall.


leave them alone.


build around them.

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wtf>?

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