Real Estate May 25, 2012 12:20 AM

Central Park Plaza Sold- Reuse Planned

Central Park Plaza Sold- Reuse Planned
The largely vacant Central Park Plaza has a new owner.  Strickler Development Group LLC purchased the 29-acre property today for $800,000.  

According to WBFO, the new owner is an affiliate of Ciminelli Companies.  Redevelopment for commercial use, with possibly a residential component, is likely.  According to the Help Revitalize Central Park Plaza Facebook page, a press conference is scheduled for next week to detail plans for the property.

The new owner is already working with the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation on a cleanup plan for the brownfield site.  From 1877 to 1948, the Buffalo Cement Co. operated the site for mining.  In 1958 the site was developed by Central Park Shopping Center, Inc.  In addition to retail stores, other businesses such as auto repair, photographic processing, and dry cleaning also occupied the plaza. 

The property has been a neighborhood nuisance for many years. Located at 129 Holden Street, Central Park Plaza was once a thriving property with many commercial tenants, but as a result of the failure of its owners to maintain the site, the tenants left and it has become blighted.

With no proper security, criminals routinely break into and vandalize the buildings at Central Park Plaza. Making matters worse, the unsecured buildings attract neighborhood children who are able to enter the buildings at an imminent risk to their safety. 

In November, Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman announced a settlement ordering Samuel Kurz and Central Park Plaza, LLC, the Brooklyn-based owners of the plaza, to clean up the property and sell it.  

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All too often Buffalo is being victimized by these do nothing out of town land lords

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yeah, nothing like out of town do nothings

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Speaking of meaningless comments, anyone notice how much better the SPAM issue has gotten? Thanks BRO.

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Ooooh! Zing! You got had again for not living here! What a loser you must be. Meanwhile the critics are responsible for such great contributions as...........? ladyinwhite, help me out here.

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Your obsequiousness is truly breathtaking...

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....and you dont think that the "neighborhood' had any thing to do with the downfall of this shopping plaza? It's changing population, vandalism, theft, and reluctance for people to shop here slowly caused retail to wisely move out for fear of it's own safety and vialability??
be honest, really!!
Yes, the owners should have tried to sell it much sooner, but this was once a thriving center of retail!

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Yeah, that never happens anywhere else...

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Ah the days of Murphy's, Mr. Seconds, Famous Doughnuts, Bells the little drive through photo booth. Good times.

But this place has long since outlived its usefulness. Demo it and let nature take its course.

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Good post!

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The site was a quarry for the Onandaga Limestone that serves as the foundation stones for thousands of Buffalo homes.
BTW...It was a quarry, not a mine...

I'm showing my age, but I used to ride my bike over there many of the stores...Western Auto, Murphy's, Kresges, I.D.S.. Even in the early 70's it was getting to be a dangerous place for kids to ride their bikes.

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Was it the Buffalo Plains variant of Onondaga Limestone (like the Church of the Good Shepherd in Parkside), or Jammerthal (the harder stone with the big flinty inclusions like in the rock cuts along the 33)--?

Speaking of Onondaga variants, I've noticed recently that some Buffalo buildings with high-quality Onondaga casing stones (e.g. St. Ann's, St. Francis De Salle's) have richly fossiliferous stones that don't seem to come from any local source. Looks more like the building stone used extensively in Leroy, so perhaps it came from quarries thereabouts.

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jamerthal is not a variety of stone. it means 'land of tears' in german. the soil was so poor there that it got that nickname.

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And rocky -- like underlain by this type of stone. Stone so tough, it can require quarrying techniques like drilling/wedging or blasting to remove it. Hence my transference of the name to the stone as a shorthand to distinguish it from the other common local variety. If someone can direct me to a link or a reference which has better terminology I'd love to read it -- I haven't found much on the few occasions I've tried.

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The City missed another opportunity. $800,000??? Chump change for 29acres. The city should have bought it, demolished it and created another urban green space. Throw some basketball courts here and there, skate park . . . too bad.

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Respectfully disagree. The city cannot maintain the public spaces they already own let alone build a new one and maintain it. They were better off to let a private developer buy it, build, and pay taxes on it.

Let's face it, the city would not be putting in basketball courts and baseball diamonds, it would be some sort of half assed overpriced plastic housing development that would look as bad as the plaza does now in 5 years.

Until they prove they can properly build anything with some consideration to longevity and suitable building materials then they should stay out of the development game.

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agreed. so many parks are little more than grass on welfare.

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Considering location I think its a great price. The Central Terminal was once turned over for a dollar and some back taxes wasn't it? Nothing near $800K. Demo and land bank this plaza.

On another note what was used to fill in the quarry?

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The city already owns plenty of property, there is no need for them to buy more.

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In 2008 I was scoping-out several sites for the HEAL-6 grant and Central Park was being considered for a primary care center which was to be in the former Rite Aid building (next to the former Murphy’s) and had been renovated for a Baptist Church which had vacated for their new site directly across the street.

There was an on-site custodian at that time who mentioned there were very few problems but, since the entire site was already vacated, I am sure there would be few problems.

I was, literally, welcomed into the hood by one of the local brothers who was interested in what I was doing, plus, being a white guy not looking for drugs or prostitutes and did not drive a BMW must have been an oddity as well.

The proposal was scrapped because Kaleida was proposing to building a similar center only a block away but, to my knowledge, this never happened either.

Shame for the area but it seems to be the eventual fate for the inner city.

The other two sites were Black Rock and the First Ward on Louisiana Street, the latter is the only one that actually happened only because there was already a primary care located at this site.

My former supervisor took full credit for the proposal work even though, after dumping the project in my lap, went on vacation, not once but twice…

Always wondered why the word “plagiarism” is not used in engineering?

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"but as a result of the failure of its owners to maintain the site, the tenants left..."

I'm fairly certain most tenants would have left even if the plaza had been kept in pristine condition. It's location (rough neighborhood and awkward to get to) are it's two biggest negatives.

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I worked in this plaza for many years, from the time when it was almost fully occupied to 3 years ago, when my company finally closed their location. Reason: the roof was leaking so badly, we had to place buckets around and the plumbing was constantly backing up. The Canadian owners were impossible to contact or ignored calls from our corporation. The potholes in the lot bacame so bad, one had to serpentine through the lot to get to work to avoid flat tires and alignment problems. Once, I was daydreaming, drove through one, and my front bumper was moved two inches.
However, never did we feel as though we were in an unsafe location. Surrounded by the Mahhattan St Post Office and new housing, a rather well kept neighborhood to Leroy St, a newly built mega-church and the Bennett Village Housing, this area could be a major place for development. Just a short walk to Main St and the Amherst Metro Station is also a major plus.
Best of luck to the new owners. $800,000 seems like a steal for this prime piece of property

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$800,000 for 29 acres? This is like getting the land for free. I would expect that the developer can do some really nice things with this property.

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Huge news for this neighborhood. The blight of that plaza has had a direct effect on the decline of the Leroy/Highland Park neighborhood.

Employment-based uses - back office, flex-space, logistics - should be prioritized over any retail or residential use. In a neighborhood with a 20% housing vacancy and little demand for retail, jobs are what is needed most.

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Are there any incentives for the kind of industrial or logistics employer most desired there? Would be great if there were, but I'm not so sure.

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Little demand for retail? Back office? Leave the backoffice downtown..this area is sparsley retailed as it is. Build a new condensed version (29 acres..wow) that offers every day necessities. Just like it did. Yes theres crime..but overall I'd call a lot of the immeidate area struggling. Delaware commercial sector is far enough from here..after that its University Plaza and Nf boulevard.

You could easily pull people from North Delaware/Parkside, Allentown, and Elmwood area with the right offerings here. More traffic in a struggling part of town isn't a bad thing right?>

Finding out its 29 acres leads me to one thing....BUFFALO'S FIRST WALMART!!...god I can't wait for that article!

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STEEL has had the copy for such an article ready to go since 2005!

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RRRumsey -- It’s nice to see your positive, first-hand experience comments about the CPP area. Too often people malign or discount places from conjecture and possibly unconscious bias.

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I lived at 21 Wade Avenue 1946-1949. Notice on Google Earth that the house is decrepit. Is it occupied? Some others nearby seem well kept.

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If residential is built there, don't be surprised if it's gated. No big deal, gates and perimeter fencing can always be removed years later, but it's a sad fact that this location will be a hard sell otherwise. The NW corner could be immediately developed as commercial. But again, that could mean anything from fast food to a gated office compound.

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I forsee heavy subsidies in developing this area...a risky venture at best....with the violent history of this neighborhood...any one wanting to do anything with this property...retail or resiedential...will really need some heavy economic subsidies for motivation...IDA anyone??

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