City April 29, 2012 10:20 AM

Ouch: Buffalo Named The Least Fashionable City in America

Ouch: Buffalo Named The Least Fashionable City in America
Buffalo is the least fashionable city in America, according to a new ranking from Bundle.com

How did Bundle.com come up with this ranking? Did they just rank cities inversely to their Zubaz-density? No, the methodology was a little more complicated than that. 

Bundle used their data on retail transactions in the 50 biggest cities in their database. Using this data, Bundle created an index of "fashion-conscious households" which were defined as households that had at least four transactions at top-end designer merchants in the past 30 months. A city ranked 1.0 is perfectly average (by Bundle's fashion-conscious metric). 

And perfectly average is where Flushing, NY ranks. To the surprise of hipsters everywhere, Brooklyn is slightly below average with a rank of .87. As for Buffalo, well, we rank dead last. 

From Bundle.com: 

Buffalo, NY ranked as the least fashionable city in America with an index of 0.10. This makes Buffalo ten times less fashionable than the average big city in America, and 32 times less fashionable than its downstate neighbor, New York, NY. Perhaps Buffalo's lack of fashion can be chalked up to its abundance of snow days.

So here is what this "least fashionable city in America" ranking really means: fewer households in Buffalo have made at least four transactions at top-end designer merchants in the past 2.5 years than any other large city in America. 

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Irvine, California is the "most fashionable" city in America, according to Bundle's analysis. And Irvine is followed closely by New York, Los Angeles and Miami. 

Buffalo, meanwhile, edges out Louisville, Jacksonville and Albuquerque in the race for last place. Remarkably, even kindred spirit Cleveland has 3 times as many households that have made high-end retail transactions as Buffalo. 



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This is NOT surprising. Just look at all the locals who go outside wearing pajama pants, outdated Bills attire, flannel shirts, dirty clothes, greased out hair, scrunchies, and so on. .....Do these people know they can go to Target, Kholes, Conway, Rainbow and spend the same amount and end up looking 100% better?????? I've been told this area is too poor to care about looking good, but come on folks, DISCOUNT clothing that is up to date and decent can be found here!!!!!

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You missed the context there Fashion Police. It's not about what people are wearing, it's where they shop. Plenty of WNY'ers purchase designer labels at discount retailers.

As for the fashion mistakes you've listed above, you see people doing the exact same thing in every city in the U.S. It's not just Buffalo with the pajama pants, flannel, and scrunchies.

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Who. Cares.

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Hey genius, if you go to Target, et al, you're NOT shopping at one of the "top-end designer merchants" that this stupid-ass ranking is looking for.

It seems more likely to me that people in Buffalo don't have the money to waste at "top-end" shitholes.

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Think about this: if people don't care about their appearance, they're probably less likely to care about the appearance of the city or town where they live.

Outside of the City of Buffalo and its Green Code project, planning and zoning is firmly trapped in the 1970s.

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I find it interesting that Buffalo always counts as a "large city" when someone wants to put us at the bottom of a list.

Rankings like this are completely worthless, and rather insulting.

What this "ranking" means is if I buy my designer tie at T.J. Maxx, where it's going to be 50% cheaper, I am somehow "less fashionable" than the guy that paid twice as much at a "high-end" retailer?

Same piece of clothing, same label, yet somehow because it's purchased someplace where it's more realistically priced makes the purchaser "less fashionable".

Who even deemed this garbage worthy of posting here?

An insulting piece, with no basis in actual facts.

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Worse, they assume that fashion is all about purchasing expensive clothes.

Any fashionista will laugh at such a suggestion. You can look quite fashionable in inexpensive jeans, a cool t-shirt and cheap sunglasses. Your haircut, how you take of yourself, your confidence as you walk -- all these count far more than having the "right" label on your back.

I've been places where people are quite fashionable but they don't have a stitch of Calvin Klein or Barney's on them. Fashion is an attitude and a concept, and it can be had from dime store stuff as much as from Milano designers. Washington DC has plenty of fancy shops that people buy clothes, but it's never been accused as being a fashionable place. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Of course, that's not to say that Buffalo couldn't benefit from a lift in fashion status, but I'd say it's on the whole no better or worse than the average city.

These types of surverys are worse than junk. They are really just promotional materials to encourage people like us to buy expensive clothes at high end shops. Nothing more.

Just ignore this crap.

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"Remarkably, even kindred spirit Cleveland has 3 times as many households that have made high-end retail transactions as Buffalo."

Hmmm... could that be because:

1. As of the 2010 Census, Cleveland proper had a total population of 396,815, and the Cleveland-Akron-Elyria Combined Statistical Area, which has a population of 2,871,084

-and-

2. Buffalo itself has a population of 261,310 (2010 Census) and the Buffalo–Niagara–Cattaraugus Combined Statistical Area has a population of 1,215,826.

I'd say we're just smarter consumers... But that's my opinion.

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Buffalo is half the size of Cleveland ? How, why?
It's virtually the same city

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Because Cleveland and the surrounding metropolitan area is bigger, that's why. A whole host of reasons why Cleveland grew to be bigger than Buffalo; better strategic location and more entrepreneurs that didn't sell their businesses to out-of-town interests are the biggies.

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Proud to be unfashionable.

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You could say the same about a lot of major retails chains, including coffee shops, restaurants, etc. Buffalo, the city, is a land of independent retailers. Look at Hertel and Elmwood. If we continue to shop locally then we will never be on a list that is decided upon by the number of people who shop at national top-end designer merchants. Also, osiris is right - a lot of those small Buffalo boutiques carry the designer merch - but that doesn't count because they are locally owned and operated. Which is fine with me.

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Do we even have any national top end designer merchants? That would be a start. If its even a desirable thing to begin with.

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We have them, mostly in one of the malls. The Galleria Mall is particularly filled with them.

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Disagree. There's a couple, but express and forever 21 don't count.

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some folks are fashionably conscious.
I'm fashionably unconscious.

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Manhattan is the only truly fashionable place in the US because the fashion industry is based there. It's easy to follow the trends and learn about the quality of clothing/fabrics when you're exposed to it on a daily basis. It's also a great place to get deals on quality clothing.

I don't think Buffalo is fashionable for a number of reasons that are difficult to control: income levels, weather, lack of retail.

However, any survey that ranks the dullest city in the country, Irvine, California, as number one in fashion, should indicate how flawed this survey really is. Shopping at overpriced malls does not make anyone a fashionista.

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Irvine most likely has Neiman's, Nordstrom's, Saks, etc.. hence fashion.

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Hey at least we're a top 50 city in the US!

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True.
In your face, Rochester!!!!!

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This survey, like so many others, ignorantly assumes that all of fashion can be captured by consumer activity with respect to "top designers." Presumably, these top designers are the commercially successful Louis Vuitton and John Varvatos of the world. Almost every "top designer" gets their start in obscurity as a pattern maker for another designer, a boutique owner, etc. I suppose then, according to this survey, even "top designers" are unfashionable until they become sufficiently commercially successful to be a benchmark in a survey.

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I'm gonna take the blame on this one, guys. I wore white after Labor Day.

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They are blaming this on the snow yet winter fashion is one of the most forward looking fashion sectors. Have they not noticed this? The slopes are some of the most fashionalble places you can be or you could be on a Miami Beach looking at fat guys in speedos

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Yes, and if you have ever been to Vail, CO, it has certainly some of the most fashionable population anywhere. I guess it's not big enough a city.

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there are so many logic leaps in this study's design that is really isn't worth our time. their finding could just as easily have been city least controlled by major fashion retailers....

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I'm ok with this stupid ranking. Buffalo is the city of no illusions and no pretense.

I really enjoy the lack of vanity in this great city.

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"their data on retail transactions" might mean that a good percentage of this ranking comes from cross-border shoppers and Niagara Falls tourists.

This is about where (not even what) people buy, and not at all about how they wear it. Some people can put together a better outfit at a Goodwill for $5 than some of the made-in-China crap others will pay $5,000 for at Barneys.

And blaming it on the snow is BS. I'd prefer to see someone in a smart winter ensemble any day over the hoochie mamas in the south whose idea of 'office attire' is flip-flops and a tube top.

This list should be "Most Victim to Fashion", not "Most Fashionable".

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They rank Irvine at the top, "one of the richest cities in America", implying that wealth is an indicator of fashion. But then look at the next few articles they posted, based on their "unbiased, data-driven ratings":

5 habits of the smart spring shopper

5 basement bargains without Filene's

What your beauty store says about you

Big tax refund? Buy some happiness

One-off Prada: luxury store shoppers don't return


And if snow is a fashion motivator, how do they explain NYC and Chicago near the top, while Jacksonville and Albuquerque are only a couple slots above us? Rubbish. This is just proof that you can spin any data however you like to come up with nonsense that proves your misconceptions.

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Who cares. Outside of NYC and Los Angeles where the real fashion trends are, most people dress alike in all other cities. I live in San francisco and it is not that fashionable. There are hordes of annoying hipsters that all dress alike and wear salvaged clothes and then the rest that are wearing the same banana republic clothing you get anywhere.
Buffalo is at the low? I say good. No reason to waste money on and give in to the over priced retailers.

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Whatever, but that is a great shot of STEEL in his Zumbaz up top.

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To be farir that picture is 5 years old. I don't ware my hair like that anymore.

replied to YesSir
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That picture is priceless. I'm going to send it my sister in law, telling her I've got a guy she should meet.

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A fashion study based on retail purchases finds the 3rd poorest city in the country (and one that makes a lot of cold weather based, practical purchases) made the fewest purchases at high end clothing stores. Should I replace my wardrobe immediately? Why is this news?

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You know that "third poorest city" applies to the city only, not the region as a whole, and that it's just among major cities, right?

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My point remins the same.

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don't ever confuse fashion with style. sometimes they barely nodding acquaintances.

think of the aging blueblood who goes to the 20th century club in a chanel suit that she has had for 40 years. fashionable? not at all. stylish? hell, yes.

at the other end of the spectrum, we can dress really well on a dime, thanks to our great thrift shops, consignment shops, and vintage boutiques. being a slave to the trend of the nanosecond is nothing to brag about.

to our everlasting credit, we are low on fashion but high on style.

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What a surprise all the thin-skinned Buffalonians are all defensive again. just to go over a couple of your ludicrous points:
-tjmaxx and other discount stores have name-brand stuff, but not while it is in fashion at the name brand stores. ie, low on the fashion scale.
-if you have ever been to any big city outside wny, you would realize how behind the times people dress here.

Lego1981 is the only one who hit it on the head.

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I smell troll. The whiny, petulant, yet self-superior tone are a dead giveaway too.

replied to Buffalo Truth
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Or the fact that he has a valid point. Are you wearing
A Sabres jersey?

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I was about to say the opposite. I'm impressed with the relative lack of overly defensive or thin skinned comments up to this point.

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What nonsense, so WNY residents don't waste money on overpriced crap sold by high end retailers, that is a good thing, says something about our values and lack of pretense. Chasing after the latest trends is shallow and demonstrates a lack of understanding of the things that really matter in life. Fashion is so objective and quality clothing doesn't have to cost a fortune or be of the latest design.

That said there is no reason a person should look like a slob, it is not really that difficult or expensive to look decent and presentable.

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"Perhaps Buffalo's lack of fashion can be chalked up to its abundance of snow days."

What a pitifully stupid comment. I did laugh, though. It's not worth being thin skinned but it is funny how the world views Buffalo as nothing but snow. Good. I'll take it. I like getting drunk because there's a driving ban. It sure beats my house falling into the earth because of yet another CA earthquake, or being blown to bits because of yet another midwest tornado, or being consumed by yet another MS flood, or losing my life possessions to a storm named Irene. How about a study on best places to live because you're least likely to have mother nature destroy everything you own? I'd love to hear the quip they come up with for Buffalo for that study.

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*stands and applauds*

Bravo!

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sheesh, when was the last time we actually had a snow day? winters have been so mild for the last decade that entire chiropractic firms have gone out of business for lack of back injuries from shoveling the walk. [kidding! just kidding!]

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Real life disasters that cost lives ....stupid ass comment. What felt better, writing that or sliding your feet into your crocs?

replied to LouisTully
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Don't pretend you care about anyone other than yourself. And, again, I don't know what the Crocs comment is supposed to mean.

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WE'RE #1! WE'RE #1!
But seriously, we are. When I moved back to Buffalo from NYC, I thought I went back it time (and bad fashion land). It's not just the clothing, it's the hair. I made a comment about the out-dated hairstyles in Buffalo to my hairdresser, and she said she understood that Buff was 5-10 yrs. behind everyone else in hairstyles.

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My pet peave is pajama pants. I never see anyone wearing them out in public unless I'm in downtown Buffalo. Why do people think it's okay to walk outside in pajama's? And why is this not illegal?????

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Apparently you've never been to South Buffalo or Lackawanna?

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Nothing says "I'm giving up!" more than pajama pants.

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I'm waiting to hear about the top 20 list of cities that are most obsessed about where their city ranks on useless magazine/website lists.


Buffalo will certainly be #1 there too.

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Any way you slice it, too many people wear Bills and
Sabres jerseys down town. Feather hair and mustaches went
out of style longtime ago. It's no big secret that Buffalo
is stuck in the 80's.

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The big joke is in airports. The Buffalo gate is always the easiest to find. Just look for PJ's a pillow or ancient Bills sweats.

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I was all ready to be offended by this, but after reading the article, this is actually a back-handed compliment.

It shows:
- Buffalonians are frugal ie. not big believers that buying expensive things gives you status. This could have something to do with it being a poor city, but note that Cleveland is poorer and is more "fashionable". Maybe we look at all the Canadians that come over and buy expensive crap at the Galleria and are inspired not to be like them...

- Buffalo doesn't have many high-end national retailers to start with. It does have high-end retailers, but they are all local businesses on Elmwood and Hertel. So, any high-end transactions that happen in Buffalo won't be counted into the ranking. Thus, when people do buy high-end things here, the money goes back into the local economy, which is a very good thing.

I would be offended if there weren't people with good fashion sense in Buffalo, but there are, as you can witness from a walk down Elmwood.

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I don't know about you, but Janet Snyder and I are at The Walker Center just about everyday buying sweatsuits with Juicy on the butt, ugg boots, northface jackets and a whole lotta designer jeans — take that unfashionable Buffalo... at least we look good.

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Are you pledging a fraternity at Buffalo State College?

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Buffalo ranks at the bottom of a list.

Response from BR posters: "They're wrong! The methodology is flawed! These lists are stupid! Who cares? I'd rather be here than in (insert name of growing Sunbelt city here)!"

Buffalo ranks at the top of a list.

Response from BR posters: "The secret is finally out! Buffalo is #1! This is just one more sign of the region's renaissance!"

Can't have it both ways, where the lists, flawed as they might be, are right when Buffalo is presented in a favorable light, and wring when Buffalo ranks towards the bottom.

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If wearing zubazz is wrong, I don't want to be right.

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Some likely reasons behind the numbers. My apologies if others have mentioned some of these.

1) Lack of high-end national clothing chains compared to peer cities. Hard to judge sales at high-end boutiques when there aren't any of the kind being tabulated.

2) Large elderly population compared to peer cities. Lime green polyester pants ordered from the Blair catalog is considered high fashion among that crowd.

3) Buffalo still has a good-sized blue-collar workforce, where fashion is mostly irrelevant. Carhartt, Red Wing, Dehner, Oshkosh, and other workwear brands are big sellers in the area.

4) Sports fanaticism. When I lived in Denver, during a time when the Broncs were winning Super Bowls, and the Avs and Rockies were having good seasons, I saw very few people wear Broncos/Rockies/Avalanche/Nuggets gear outside of playoff season. In Buffalo, you'll see clothing with Bills logos year 'round.

5) Hairstyles are 5-15 years behind the times in Buffalo, although with the Internet, things are catching up. As a test, I scanned photos from my 1984 high school yearbook (Buffalo Public Schools), and a 1984 yearbook somewhere else in the country, and asked people to guess the year the photos were taken. For the other school, most people guessed mid-1980s. For photos from my 1984 yearbook, mid-to-late 1970s. Whenever I return home, I'm surprised to see as many mustaches and feathered hair as I do among those in their 30s and 40s.

As another poster said, at airports in other cities, I've noticed it's easy to pick out the gate with a departing flight to Buffalo. Some of it is fashion (Bills logos, sweatshirts and sweatpants, etc), but there tends to be a much larger number of senior and elderly passengers.

That being said, Buffalo is known as a fashion mecca among a niche crowd into "trad" or classic Ivy League style, thanks to the presence of O'Connell's.

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Theyre a mecca because of the online business. Anyone whos ever had to deal with their haughty shop clerks would run the other way. Get over yourselves youre shop clerks.

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why complain that outsiders stereotype us harshly when dan will do it for them?

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What an authentic, genuine, gritty and real comment! Not superficial or plastic, like what someone from Charlotte or Phoenix would day.

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Being fashionable or stylish or what-have-you, is simply a state of mind. Either you embrace it, or you don't. So what if Buffalo isn't perceived as a fashionable city. I will say that I was at the airport in Tampa Bay recently, and I crossed paths with the Canisius High School Baseball team heading home after a tournament. Every single member of the team was in a shirt/tie with a sportcoat, carrying their equipment bags branded with Buffalo, NY. They looked sharp, and people took notice.

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I wonder if not being fashion conscious makes Buffalonians more grounded and real and perhaps some depth.... and less superficial and shallow that we typically associate with fashion types.

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Seriously, who the f**k cares?

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It adds to the national perception that we are
a bunch of farmers. Any good marketing company
Will tell you that you must change your "image" before
things will progress.

Our marketing departments at city hall not proactive

Buffalo takes insults from the rest of the country on national news
and no one fires back; we just sit back and take it.

Change the perception/image of the city and you may see more growth

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That's one of the most asinine comments I've read on here. Dress better so people around the country like us and our city will grow. How about fixing the schools and regionalizing the government? How about electing a real Mayor? I moved here from the Metro NYC area in 2005 (plenty of high end ridiculously expensive retailers there) and I can tell you I never gave a single thought to how the people in Buffalo dressed before I moved here. No one really cares. The cited article and this blog entry are total crap. Who gives a f**k what people in LA think about us? What is wrong with you?

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Oris and Northpark:

The fact of the matter is that the entire country believes we act and look like the man in the picture above. That is the short version.

Tom Brady publishes in the Wall Street Journal that Buffalo is a dump; the landscape, hotels, stadium etc and the country believes it.

There is a huge connection of our national perception, the weather, the way we look and dress that discourages people from wanting to relocate here.

A corporation, a professional athlete, whomever will avoid Buffalo at all costs based on what they hear and see on the news.

It's great that we have had some much need rehab projects downtown, but there are still no companies moving here. There are no private equity firms, consultants, tech companies, investment firms, real business development type jobs. Why ?

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You are wrong. First of all, paying any attention to what a pampered athlete thinks is foolish. I have spent a good deal of time traveling this country and most peoples' perception of Buffalo is of an old industrial city that's inhospitably cold. I've never heard anyone mention any lack of style or fashion. Few people outside of LA and Manhattan would really care anyway. The reason people won't relocate here is the lack of jobs, ,NYS taxes and the idea that it snows for half the year. (I bought into that last one myself before I moved here.) You've got a bit of an inferiority complex Foligno as do a lot of Buffalo residents.

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You are wrong. I also traveled a great deal. In the
Southwest and midwest they live football. Tom Brady is a god to them.

They listen. The people are uneducated.

In NYC they think we walk around in bills jerseys with sandals
And knee high socks with no teeth.

Let's not get into Florida and SE.

In addition to being cold. Why would any of these people
Want to relocate here and start a life ?

You sound like you didn't get out much when you
Traveled.

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Outside of New England no one worships Tom Brady. As a matter of fact, most hate him. Anyone who does worship football players likely wouldn't have a problem with Buffalonians anyway as there are plenty of football worshipers here.

I am a native Brooklynite and lived for a while on Long Island as well and I can tell you for a fact your statement is ridiculous. My friends and family who visit here from NYC always have a great time and their only negative comments are usually reserved for the weather and abandoned homes.

You're an idiot.

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I'm an idiot, ugh? ....I guess being from Brooklyn makes you an authority on Buffalo; you are sensitive as if you actually grew up here.

Perhaps if you did, you might understand the hardship the city has endured, then maybe you might understand the point.

It great that you and your family come from a similar area in the same state as Buffalo. I can tell you first hand that most people outside of NYS admire Tom Brady or any popular sports figure for that matter and often give credence to what they have to say.



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"I'm an idiot, ugh?"


Yes, you are.

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National perception that we're a bunch of farmers?

You haven't a clue, my friend.

The perception the rest of the country has of Buffalo is the same it has been for nearly four decades, that of a nearly dead, rusted-out blue collar city.

"Farmers" indeed. Where do you get this stuff?

(For the record, it's no secret that NYC perceives the whole of Upstate as a someplace scenes from "Deliverance" might have been filmed... Buffalo included.)

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There's a sale at the Chess King in Boulevard Mall, right next to Sibley's. Half off Z. Cavaricci and Members Only!

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This ranking is about as pointless as the attention we're giving it. What's the point? If you write an article like this, you expect reactions to it, but are the reactions you're getting worth the reputation you're helping to fortify? Give it a rest with the 'Buffalo sucks at this, Buffalo is inferior at that, Buffalo is a bunch of unfashionable pigs' jargon and just let people move on. It really gets old.

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This list seems fundamentally flawed. Since when is having fashion sense only equivalent to shopping at high-end retailers? You can shop at Saks Fifth Avenue or Neiman Marcus and still look awful. Fashion catalogs are riddled with 'worst dressed' celebrities who are wearing designer outfits that cost thousands of dollars. Being fashionable has a lot more to do with what you buy than where you buy it or how much you spent.

I also find the assumption that cold = unfashionable very odd. Cold weather allows for all kinds of clothing options that are impossible in warmers climes; scarves, boots, sweaters, hats, etc. It snows in New York City, Paris and Milan after all.

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Fashion is a construct.

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I dont think Buffalo has more snow or is colder than Minnesota. Thats just ridiculous.

Maybe I havent traveled to the appropriate parts of the city to see people dress like this but I have never seen these half T-Shirts and Zebra pants that everyone keeps talking about.

True Buffalo is not a wealthy city ... and in many ways ... Im kind of greatful Buffalo has never been that shallow snobby kind of city (like our wealthier neighbor Rochester for example).

Buffalonians are still quite an attractive lot with alotta heart. Id rather have the heart than the designer luggage.

I guess its different for guys than girls. Guys that are outta shape and wear sweatpants and T-Shirts and unshaven can still look pretty darn attractive.

Outta shape girls...no makeup...uncombed hair...spandex tights that went out with flashdance in the 80s...well not so much.

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paulsobo>"I dont think Buffalo has more snow or is colder than Minnesota. Thats just ridiculous."

Then apparently sometimes reality can be just ridiculous.
I don't know if it affects how much trendy expensive fashion is purchased, but according to NOAA, Buffalo since 1981 has averaged more snow than any large U.S. city except Rochester.
(That's if we want to consider Roch as 'large'. The fashion purchasing ranking doesn't. If not, then we're #1 for large city average snowfall.)
We've averaged 40" more yearly than Minneapolis, over double the snowfall in Boston and Chicago, and over triple that in NYC.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Some people like having a lot of snow.
http://www.currentresults.com/Weather-Extremes/US/snowiest-cities.php
Average annual snowfall for the snowiest large US cities (Inches)
Rochester, New York 99.5
Buffalo, New York 94.7
Cleveland, Ohio 68.1
Salt Lake City, Utah 56.2
Minneapolis, Minnesota 54.0
Denver, Colorado 53.8
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 46.9
Boston, Massachusetts 43.8
Detroit, Michigan 42.7
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 41.9
Hartford, Connecticut 40.5
Chicago, Illinois 36.7
Providence, Rhode Island 33.8
Columbus, Ohio 27.5
Indianapolis, Indiana 25.9
New York, New York 25.1


(As to your view about out of shape unshaven guys in sweat pants & t-shirts, I will vote 'present' in the fashion of the dog taster in chief, leaving it to others to react to that if they wish. Some might just wish they had never read what you wrote about it, lol ...not that there's anything wrong with that!)

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It's not ridiculous at all. I currently live in Minnesota, and have been here for four years. WNY gets much more snow than Minnesota does, but Minnesota usually has MUCH colder winters.

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This article brings to mind my pretenious cousin from Atlanta who is always whining about how lame Buffalo is when she visits. At the age of 36 she still feels the need to pump her chest and play the "i'm cool and you're not" game while her Buffalo family just sits around, rolls our eyes, and enjoys our greasy fish fry and 16 ounce beer. All the while, she sits there in her ematiated body, leather coat in the summer because its too "cold" here (note fashion diss), eating her iceberg lettuce salad. Who would you rather be? Us or her? Case closed.

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Isn't it interesting that when it comes to the issue of Buffalo and snow, we are always dismissing it as bunk. Yet, in this instance, we are using it as a defense.

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These people need to go to hell. with their overrated football team and their LOSER ways. its way to cold in this crappy city, no jobs, no money and a race problem that u wouldnt believe. FUK BUFFALO. dont waste ur time or LIFE going there.

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this city is 25yrs behind everyone else. no sense of style, im originally from maryland. and wish i wouldve never left. This city should burn down and start all over again.

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