Laurel Street: Low Hanging Fruit
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Leave a commentI've read a number of recent articles about PUSH and its terrific activities on the Westside. It would be great if PUSH or a PUSH-like organization started the same kind of work on the Eastside. Thanks to the information on the web that's been provided by people like David Torke, Chris Hawley and Christopher Byrd, I've come to realize that there is a lot of great housing stock with potential in Cold Springs, Masten Park and Polonia,
In regard to the Kensington Expressway and the destruction of Humboldt Parkway, it's another example of a very typical strategy of "urban renewal" of the 1950's and 1960's which was "build the expressway from the suburbs through minority neighborhoods to Downtown". Just imagine what the outcry would have been if there had been an effort to build an expressway down the middle of Chapin, Bidwell or Lincoln Parkway.
John - back then they didn't give a F%#k about any city neighborhood. The Scajac slams right through the city's main park and wealthiest neighborhood. It was all expendable back then.
john.straubinger > It's another example of a very typical strategy of "urban renewal" of the 1950's and 1960's which was "build the expressway from the suburbs through minority neighborhoods to Downtown".
No. Urban legend.
The route of the Kensington Expressway was planned in the late 1940s, when adjacent neighborhoods along its path were mostly white.
* Fruit Belt: German. Blacks who migrated to Buffalo to work in wartime industry started to move in during the 1940s, but the area remained mixed until the early 1950s.
* Masten Park, Hamlin Park: Jewish, Italian, German. Blacks moved in during the 1950s. My Dad grew up there, and left in the mid-1950s.
* Grider/Deerfield: Predominantly German. Blacks started to move in during the late 1960s. The Kensington Expressway arrived there long before a large number of black residents did.
* Kensington/Delavan-Bailey: mixed white ethnic. Racial transition began in the 1980s.
well, yes, for the most part.
but hamlin park was attracting middle-class african-americans earlier than you think. mary talbert moved there a year or two before her death in 1923. her house on northland has since been demolished.
Correct Dan.
I lived in the Glenny Drive projects until May, 1964 and they were still mostly white when we moved out. We would walk from the projects across fields to Kensington Avenue to get to School 61 on Kensington and Grider. I believe it was in 1963 that they put up orange fencing that forced us to walk on a narrow dirt path to Kensington so that they could start digging the expressway in that section.
I had family in the Langfield homes which was half white half black up into the 70s
it's unfortunate to lose structures like these that will not be replaced.
Laurel: http://fixbuffalo.blogspot.com/2006/09/heartbreak-in-hood.html
Dodge: http://fixbuffalo.blogspot.com/2008/05/97-dodge-street-gets-love.html are full of these beauties.
The first building is salvageable, but the second one shown is not. I support it's demo, but not the replacement with empty lots, and then "plastic buildings".
Ask the neighbors if they want to split the lot, and grant them a waiver for 10 years from assessment increases. Do this enough, and you get "suburban atmosphere" with large lots (I looked for this with my home purchase) but all the benefits of the city life.
Then, the "empty lot" is maintained, just like the proud neighbors next door do currently with their lots.
If 53 Laurel is still structurally sound can it still be bought from the city? If so how much?
That's part of the fundamental problem. The city makes it incredibly difficult to navigate the process of buying one their soon to be demo'd homes. A serious overhaul is needed to streamline the process. However a good start would be to put an F'ing "For Sale" sign on it and list it one the MLS. I mean how can someone buy something and save it from demo if they don't even know it's for sale and slated for demo?
Editorial Note: I have received a few emails expressing surprise that these are on the City demo list. There have been attempts in the not too distant past to buy these properties from a private owner which were rebuffed. I am trying to verify if in fact they are on the demo list. Stay tuned for an update when I know more
see , the problem is that when you do some work on these properties you cant leave your tools there when you go for lunch ! you cant do the plumbing with copper cause they will steel it when you leave ! your not likely to get a loan to do the work so you will need cash. then you have to deal with shity hall. you better have a lot of time to waste, they all pass the buck or dont know what thier doing !you will get a huge runaround at silly hall ! besides all that it is and will allways be in the ghetto!! move to catt. co. its wonderfull and no public transportation for the parasites to infiltrate !!!
Hmm, I ride public transit all the time. Never considered myself a parasite.
> Hmm, I ride public transit all the time. Never considered myself a parasite.
Public transit riders are European socialist weenies. Public transit requires large subsidies, which is socialism. REAL AMERICANS drive everywhere. Sure, federal, state and local governments pays for the construction and maintenance of roads, but they're used by REAL AMERICANS, so that's different. Why do you hate America?
don't worry, steel, 'parasite' is code for -their- use of public amenities, not -my- use of public amenities (such as expressways).
> you cant do the plumbing with copper cause they will steel it when you leave !
Scrappers go for the low-hanging fruit; the urban prairie-like areas with low occupancy and fewer potential witnesses.
If the neighborhood has decent occupancy and isn't an urban prairie, there's "eyes on the street" that will keep scrappers away for the most part. Dense, intact streets on the East Side tend to have far more street life than other parts of town, especially during the summer.\
> no public transportation for the parasites to infiltrate !!!
yeah because if there's the metro bus those people i don't have to say who they are you know wink wink their all the same will ride out and steel you're televisions and stereos and take them back to the shitty where theyll sell them and buy crack rock and have more babies and collect wellfair thanks to our kenyen born president amirite?
Wow dude, you're a scumbag
As a fairly proud supporter of Buffalo, I take some issue with your description of the 33 ("carbon monoxide trench"). Fine, you don't like cars, we get it.
But to then write an article that gives the impression you were on the street ("A quick tour reveals...") while that was not likely the case (thanks Google for the images), and telling us what great shape the street is in, seems borderline dishonest.
Before seriously considering doing a rehab like this, I've made a rule that I need to be able to stand in front of the property after dark, for at least a few minutes, without feeling uncomfortable. I don't think this house would pass this test.
The truth is, to do this rehab, you're going to have to confront people that have recently felt like this is their property. You don't get to see that on 'Property Ladder' or some other 'flipping' show on the cable channels, but it's all too needed skill in these 'historic' (your words, not mine) neighborhoods.
Listening to you pontificate from half way across the country about a neighborhood in a city you've chosen to leave behind, then visit via your laptop, has me wondering how much longer Buffalo Rising will give voice to your opinions.
It is not that I don't like cars. It is that I don't like the city being completely subjugated to cars. I fail to see the relevance of the rest of your statement.
I'm no fan of "da Tirdy Tree" either.
Still, we look at the Kensington Expressway from a more enlightened 21st century perspective, in a Buffalo facing much different issues than the city of the 1940s and 1950s, and ask "what were they thinking?" Buffalo in 1950 had twice the population, the bulk of its jobs downtown or nearby industrial areas, and absurd levels of traffic congestion that make today's slowdowns at The Big Blue Water Tower seem like an open run on the Bonneville Salt Flats in comparison.
Someday, I want to write an article about how the Kensington Expressway came about; what was going on in the city at the time, traffic and commuting patterns of the post-WWII years, the historical reasons why the bulk of urban growth in the Buffalo region was directed to the northeast, and why other options such as subways weren't considered. The reason for its being wasn't simply "cars good, transit bad".
I think he is saying what most of us have said or think about you. You don't live here, you spout off about all of our problems and sprawl etc from frigging Chicago. If your so concerned about these two property's move your uppity ass back to Buffalo. Do you piss and moan about Chicago also or are they to smart to print your spew?
Oh also I have been on the full length of this street several times and have talked with a few of the residents of this block. They were delightful people and they did not scare me. They were concerned about the vacant properties and wanted something done with them. Read the story again because I in no way said the the street is in great shape.
By the way - the 33 is nothing to be "proud" of as Buffalonian.
I do agree it is pretty ripe for saving. The density of remaining homes helps, even if they are rentals but by the care in some yards they are a mix of owner-occupied, which in my opinion is the best crime prevention.
What is it about Main street that creates more of a divide than the 33? Is it some kind of zoning or just subconscious?
The double is an interesting property (I don't see it as being listed by the city for sale). It's a property bordering on rehab being practical. My point was, it's unfortunate that we have to go through your usual talking points to get to the heart of the matter...the property in question.
Last time I was in the yellow brick house on the corner of Laurel and Michigan it was in excellent condition and in no way should have been a demo candidate. That was in October, but I can't imagine it could have degraded far enough over one winter that it needs to be torn down.
For people interested in these houses, this block is also home to the Michigan Avenue Farm, an urban farm in its first season looking currently looking for members. More info @ http://www.farmerpirates.com.
Although it seems the total number of demolitions has been sensible ("5000 in 5") in recent years - if anything, maybe not high enough - there should be much better transparency in which houses/buildings are selected and why.
It should be something pretty easy to do via the city web site (along with many other things the mayor and Common Council don't try to have the city govt do much better than it does… a long list, unfortunately).
Just heard about a house rescue project on Laurel Street: the Shepherd House Restoration -- more information at the links below. I'm not sure which block of Laurel the Shepherd house is on. Michael Quinniey, chairman of the Western New York Minority Media Professionals, is involved in it:
http://news.wbfo.org/post/buffalo-jazz-artists-recreate-iconic-1958-great-day-harlem-photograph
http://jamestown.ynn.com/content/top_stories/581394/preserving-jazz-legend-s-house/
http://wisteriawind.blogspot.com/2012/03/wisteria-initiative-and-shepherd-house.html
See the street for yourself on Saturday with Painting for Preservation: http://paintingforpreservation.blogspot.com/2012/04/art-in-at-53-laurel-st-michigan-ave.html.
Apparently the houses are not on the demo list but are bank owned through a foreclosure
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A perfect example among many why we need preservationists and citizen activism...political leaders sometimes just get it wrong. That stretch of highway has been catastrophic to the once great east side neighborhoods.