City November 11, 2011 11:58 AM

Buffalo: Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Buffalo: Should I Stay or Should I Go?
By Bernice Radle:

So... what happens when you get offered your dream job somewhere that's not Buffalo? What do you do? Do you leave? Stay?

As a young, emerging professional in the sustainable green building industry and fresh out of college, I have many opportunities knocking every day. I am active in several Buffalo organizations including Campaign for Greater Buffalo and WNYSEA. For those who know don't me, I am all about Buffalo, all day, everyday and I am lucky to be able to work in my field in the city that I love. 

Then it happened... the decision that every fresh, enthusiastic graduate faces: I was offered my dream job... in New York City.

All of a sudden, everything came to a halt. I was faced with the decision of working on bigger green building projects in NYC or staying here in Buffalo, still doing what I love but on a much smaller scale. I questioned if Buffalo could lead me towards the success I wanted. I questioned what the success I wanted was. I questioned how either NYC or Buffalo was going to help me get towards my idea of success. Confusing, huh? Yeah, my stomach ached for weeks.

What was I to do? Everyone I looked to for advice said one thing: Follow your gut.

So, the final decision came down to a two factors: Family and Success. 

My vision of success is making an impact, provoking change, having amazing relationships and living somewhere I love and respect. I realized that Buffalo needs me way more than NYC and that my time is better spent in a city that will embrace my energy, ideas and love. In Buffalo you can do anything you want to do if you put your heart into it.

Where else can I live cheap, hang with the family, help preserve and 'green' buildings and have something fun to do every night of the week? How could I run away from all of this opportunity? 

Well, I couldn't... I knew in my gut that Buffalo was the answer.

Yes, I am staying but let's talk about the more important, bigger picture.

This is the decision making process that every student faces when they graduate. They may or may not be attached to Buffalo as much as I am. But they could be. Everyone wants to feel attached to something, somewhere. 

The real questions to ask are: How do we tap into that decision making process? How can we retain as many of the 105,000 students that come to Buffalo for a higher education as possible? How can we reach out to let them know about all the incredible things that are happening in this city and let them know that they can be a part of the change? 

These are all questions that we should be asking ourselves because the more people that stay, the more successful Buffalo will be. I realize there are many organizations attempting this but I am curious to hear opinions on what is missing or what more can be done.

What are your thoughts?

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To start off I'd like to introduce myself. I'm born and raised in Buffalo and currently go to school in Albany. I plan and have always planned to move back to Buffalo upon graduation. During my time in Albany I have met a lot of great people from all over the state, country as well as some international students. Along with these people, I have met their friends and families. Many of the friends of friends that I have met, are currently attending UB or have attended UB (many of them are from the NYC area). Surprisingly the general reaction when we get to talking about Buffalo is "Wow, I never would have though I would enjoy myself so much in Buffalo." Being a Buffalo native I tend to smirk and say "Yeah it truly is a great place to live." Recently a friend of mine transferred to UB and as a result moved to Buffalo. When I talk to her (typically once or twice a week) she remarks about how nice everyone is, how great the city is and all the new things she has discovered since the last time we spoke. She even mentioned the possibility of moving to Buffalo after graduation because of her experiences so far. My point for writing this is, that Buffalo is a great city and college students and young professionals are beginning to see how it can shine. No matter what, there will always be the doubters and haters but realistically, the grass is never greener on the other side. I think the part that makes Buffalo so lovable for the college students is the sense of place that Buffalo offers. Is it Chicago? No. Is it NYC? No. Is it LA? No. Nor can it be defined as any of these. Buffalo is a unique place with a sense of pride that nobody can take away. The ReUse projects that I have seen look great so far and as long as these continue and there begins to be clean, livable housing in the city proper, people will once again believe in Buffalo.

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Well, that would be a HUGE loss for Bflo, if you were to leave, Bernice-you are so incredibly committed, engaged and driven. However, no one would begrudge you for making a decision to leave (I feel young adults SHOULD leave, and come back, if possible).

Also, I'd suggest that we all think more outside the box-maybe there are ways to split time between the cities (Bflo is only 45 minutes by plane). This is why we should all be pushing for high-speed rail, too-that would have a HUGE impact on Bflo.

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Screw HSR, it's a boondoggle (say it with me! Monorail, monorail, monorail!).

JetBlue (among others) offers incredibly cheap airfare to NYC. You can't beat it.

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Well, HSR put Brockway, Ogdenville and North Haverbrook on the map!

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No.

Go.

And then come back.

I'm biased, having done it, but I think the MOST VALUABLE thing you can do if you're interested in really helping your home town is to leave for a year or more. You need to get the perspective. You appreciate it more, but you can more readily identify the problems and you don't just get defensive without understanding how or why.

Get out and come back. You'll never regret it.

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Although everyone and every situation is different, I think it is ultimately more beneficial for Buffalo to have people who have world experience under their belt. If you live and work somewhere else, you catch ideas and all sorts of things that you can't get in Buffalo. Of course, you run the risk of never coming back. That happens.

If you don't want to move, then at least travel as much as you can and make as many connections OUTSIDE Buffalo so that you can access expertise, knowhow, new ideas, and so on.

really successful communities, whether it is a city, a professional organization, a trade sector, whatever, are the ones with the most connections outside. You want to pull upon the best the world has to offer, and you want to ride that.

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Thank you Bernice, you already making a difference and I expect great thing will come from your decision to stay. Buffalo is on the verge of breaking through the economic doldrums and the green industries are a major contributing factor.

Ive have said for far too long Buffalos greatest export was our people but I'll never use that phrase again.

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What did Jack Quinn say?

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I can't wait til the day I can say "hello mayor Bernice"

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Seconded! Where's campaign HQ?

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Essex St Pub

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Thank you for the nice comments!!!

I should let everyone know that I have already left once.. I thought I would NEVER return to WNY and that California was the answer.. I learned quickly that I loved Buffalo and wanted a walkable, livable city... so I moved back two years later. :)

www.berniceradle.com

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So glad you clarified this, Bernice. Leaving home at least once is so valuable.

There are many great Buffalo Expats who still care about and contribute to Buffalo, but putting your butt where your heart is makes the most powerful statement.

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That's what I'm talking about. We come back for good in July.

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Jobs. Well paying, career oriented jobs. I left Buffalo for undergrad and wanted to come back after I graduated. I tried to; I looked for a job in my field for 3 months and I didn't hear back from 1 application. In one week of job searching in Chicago I was invited to an interview at one of the best schools in that area. So I moved to Chicago and took the job.

Right now, it's hard for any graduate to turn down a job. If you have opportunities for grads they will stay. It's as simple as that.

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Bernice, what did you study in school? I'm interested to see what major has led to someone having "many opportunities knocking every day". That's rare these days.

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I graduated with an urban planning degree in May from Buffalo State. The opportunities happen literally every day.
Many of them not paid but many of them are great ways to push Buffalo to be better. I am lucky to have my job at Buffalo energy and that I can work days there and spend my nights working for other organizations for free.

Truly, every day, something comes up in the planning world of Buffalo that I am working on. Saving buildings, doing preservation work, teaching people on green infrastructure.. Buffalo has unlimited potential and I am lucky to be in the middle of it.

I want to harness others energy, other ideas and people.. that is the point of this article. Sometimes more often than one would think, people and organizations are craving peoples attention, time and dedication to move forward. Finding dedicated people can be tough but once you have their attention, they can and will do amazing things.

I encourage you to get involved, if you are not already. It will only lead towards more open doors! :)))

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Leave, Learn, Relate, Return.

Leaving home is healthy; in doing so, one learns about the world beyond their comfort zone, and in turn, a lot about who they really are and what they want in life.

For those like Bernice, who leave here and/or are presented with tempting opportunities to so do yet want to contribute to a better Buffalo, there is much merit to relating practices in other places with how they can be applied here.

Go get your fill, and when you're ready to settle, bring it back home!

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Glad you're staying.

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Bernice-

That's something I contemplated while in school too.. but then I realized this place is just like any other, good, bad and beautiful. Stay because it's only the beginning of the revival (something you know already) Check out the art I created because I stayed. If this place can inspire me and countless other Buffalo artists, it can inspire you, too.

http://michaeltharmon.com/exhibitions/inkorporated/

GO BUFFY GO!

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This is ironic timing. I'm in the same boat, getting offers out of NYC (my other home), I find out this weekend what the offer is. Then I have to choose, move? or stay in Buffalo? The only way I would move away is if the pay was great! It is a very tough choice since I do luv this place, but to be real, if I had a better job offer, why not? Can always come back if it does'nt work out.

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you could go and be one of the many Buffalonians that convince their company to open a plant or an office here in Buffalo.

or build your resume so that you can come back...

ultimately its a personal decision.

Buffalo has been shrinking for years and the core of the city and suburbs is well...people know each other...and are close to one another in ways difficult to find in other cities...

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More self promotion

this crap is so boring to read. The idea is to make people write stories about you, not to write stories about yourself.

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I have to agree. What next, a story on why you chose a white car and not blue? Get over yourself.

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I don't read it that way-at all. I see it as bringing up a pretty topical issue-young adults, for the first time in decades, want to STAY IN BUFFALO. They are willing to eschew larger earning opportunities, and, frankly, other opportunities, in order to stay and make Buffalo a better place.

I think that is pretty damn interesting, if you ask me.

I'll take this "self congratulation" over the pessimism, mediocrity and victimhood that has dominated Buffalo any day.

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I agree this is relevant. This is something young professionals and college grads grapple with all the time. It should be written in the first person how else would you properly capture the conflict?

For my two cents... (that are worth nothing). If the opportunity presents itself and it a great for YOU take it and move. You can always move back and when you do move back, because you will, you will bring back with you experiences and perspective that can be valuable.

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Jersey and Platt4 - This isn't simply about Bernice. It is about Buffalo, about a young person's dilemma, choices, decisions, future. Of course I expect negative comments about everything on Buffalo Rising so I'm not surprised.

So many young people leave Buffalo. If you were to believe what you sometimes read, every young person leaves Buffalo.

Maybe Bernice's writing about her decision can help another young person to stay or at least consider staying.

I had such choices when I was younger; an offer in
Toronto and an offer in New York - my home town. I have never regretted staying in Buffalo, though some people may want me to leave!

Thank you, Bernice.

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the question seems to be more of whether or not your dream job could be out of the area. if your dream job is not a possibility in buffalo, then why would you allow your love of a specific community and location to prevent you from pursuing your dream job?

if you can't fathom the possibility of leaving the area, however, then the job must not actually be your dream job, just a representation of what your dream job could entail. in other words, your dream job is more comprehensive than a specific position within a specific company/firm. your dream job encompasses the desire to perform certain tasks on a level that satisfies you in an area where you are familiar and comfortable.

perhaps, if you feel that your bond with the area is too strong, your dream job is unattainable. that's okay, though, because most dreams are unattainable. just beware that the aforementioned realization is a stereotype, even a necessity, (as i'm sure you are aware) for those who live in western new york.

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Maybe dreams are about more than a job.

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We too often pursue the dream job over the dream life.

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So what are saying she should do then?

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She already decided

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So what does that mean you're doing in Chicago then?

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The story has nothing to do with me

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Nice dodge there, Steel. Someday maybe you'll answer that question.

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Thanks for the article. Like or not most people have a much easier choice to stay and work a sub-standard service job or work a job within your career somewhere else. I hope this will change for Buffalo. Buffalo is a great place but the lack of solid jobs holds as back as a region.

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Bernice,

I faced the same conundrum 5 years ago, and... took the NYC route. Although enduring many nights of wanting to leave and come back, after the initial separation I have been soo happy I made this decision! I am getting experiences and offers that I would have never dreamed of had I stayed.

Ill sum it up like I explained to my father tonight: choosing a place to work is like a football player wanting to go play on a team. They choose teams because either 1. they get paid a lot 2. The weather/area is great 3. They want to be part of a winning team. If the Bills (and by association the city of Buffalo) wants great players/employees it needs to: 1. pay people more 2. get better weather 3. show the world it is a winning team. Since we all know 1 & 2 will never happen, its going to have to prove to the world that it is a winning team so people WANT to play here.

Just my two cents...

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Weather, really? Not schools, home prices, recreation, neighborhoods? Who has better weather by the way Buffalo or Chicago? Buffalo or Phoenix, Miami. As people mature the materialistic concerns fade and lifestyle and happiness become very important.

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Good for Bernice--much applause to her.
A few things:
1. This conundrum, we should remember, faces young people in most cities, not just Buffalo. There is a handful of mega-cities that get mythical status as the place to be. But most everywhere in America faces this grass-is-greener syndrome. Too often the discussion on BRO paints Buffalo as one place and the rest of country as another. That's false.

2. You don't need to leave Buffalo or any city in order to have a rich, meaningful life. The stale advice to "go and then come back," and then share all your worldly wisdom and cleverness with the old hometown is immature condescension. The country is now so homogenized and over-connected through technology that people, their dreams, and their conversations are pretty much the same everywhere. The scenery changes, the props change, but really....people are having the same chats over coffee all over the country. Jobs remain an important factor, but people are pretty much the same.

3. I had to leave and return to understand the depth and charm of life in Buffalo. But I was not very bright; I don't think living in five other cities and three countries did much that I could not have achieved by traveling. Some people need to leave because they may be sensitive to weather, scenery or types of job that certain places have versus others. Some people are wanderers, and they should roam. But let's retire the platitude that you MUST leave and then come back in order to have a meaningful life. People all over the world stay in their tiny villages, their towns, their cities and countries---their lives are not compromised by this. Patina comes to all things over time.

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Agree, I have only lived in one other place but I have visited many cities and places of interest throughout the country. I would add that travel can be just as limiting as staying in one place if a person sticks to the interstate or generic sprawl communities. I have seen and learned more on foot, by canoe, or by rail than by flying to some tourist destination and following the itinerary. My wife and I just returned from a trip to a midwestern city where we explored the neighborhoods and engaged with the locals. As usual we found the most interesting places were found by simply roaming around and talking to people. So many "well traveled" folks tend to stay in the safe zone and rarely experience the unique sense of place that each community offers.

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Have fun, make some money. . .you'll be back.

I've lived, traveled or worked in nearly every State in the Union and 33 countries. I could live anywhere I like. I choose Buffalo.

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Go to where Opportunity calls you - that's why everyone's ancestors came here or anyplace else. Mine came to Jamestown, Niagara Falls, Lancaster and Cheektowaga (not to Buffalo itself) for jobs or farming.

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