City October 1, 2011 11:10 AM

Niagara Falls: #5 - World's Most Visited Tourist Attractions

Niagara Falls: #5 - World’s Most Visited Tourist Attractions
Travel and Leisure has ranked Niagara Falls as #5 when it comes to World's Most Visited Tourist Attractions. How far are we from Niagara Falls? Oh yeah, approximately 25 miles. It's not like this sort of rankling is something new - at least to Western New Yorkers, rather it is a periodic wake-up call... a Homer Simpson "D'oh!" moment that makes us try on our best marketing thinking caps (again). Up until now those thinking caps have looked more like dunce caps. Then again, as the Canadian side of The Falls has continually thrived, the American side has languished. Meaning that once a visitor ends up on the Canadian side of The Falls, a 1+ hour trip to Toronto probably looks a lot more appealing than a cross-border stopover to Buffalo.

With 22,500,000 visitors to the falls each year, you would think that Buffalo could peal some of that traffic away. What is it going to take to get some of these visitors to take the 20+ mile drive? Chicken wings, a refurbished Statler or Hotel Lafayette, a killer destination restaurant, a booming Inner Harbor, the world's largest electric chair? I'm not being morbid - the electric chair was invented here, as was air conditioning, but I don't think the world's largest air conditioner would be as fascinating. Or will we have to settle for a faction of travelers passing around Buffalo as they head from our airport directly to The Falls? 

Yesterday I met up with a guy who just relocated to Buffalo from NYC. He's kind of a hot shot in the hospitality development industry, and he wanted to know what the lay of the land was like here in Buffalo. We discussed all sorts of potential projects that would be good for this city - projects that would not only be exciting, but would also attract enough people to make them financially viable. Projects that we really haven't seen here yet. Being so close to Toronto and Niagara Falls, would the right idea, with the right kind of backing, be able to attract enough visitors to justify significant investment? 22,500,000 visitors to The Falls is a lot of people. As the Canadian side continues to invest in hotels and attractions, and the American side starts to awaken from its long slumber, those traffic counts will most likely escalate. At the same time, Toronto continues to be one of the fastest growing cities in North America. What will it take for Buffalo to begin to capitalize on the tourism success of our Canadian neighbors?
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Precisely why I continue to feel the area would benefit tremendously from a metro line between downtown Buffalo and downtown Niagar Falls. From a tourist perspective they wouldnt have to drive between the two cities, could simply jump on a front and center metro station in the Falls and day trip into Buffalo. Its just easier as a tourist to jump on a rail line you know will get you where you want to be rather than driving, making wrong turn, etc. All within a quick walk of a Niagara Falls hotel. All about convenience and a real nice tourist connection I think could be made with a Niagara Falls - Buffalo spur. The Niagara Falls station should have a Buffalo information center in it and the Buffalo one a Niagara Falls info station, be mutually beneficial and collaborative tourist marketing efforts.

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you beat me to it. a trolley connecting the two cities is long overdue.

for a lot of people, vacation means getting away not only from your job but your car, which is why some cities & villages with lush, intact, pre-automobile pedestrian realms become pricey tourist towns.

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This is attraction #5 in the WORLD, not the nation or the state. We're talking about visitors from London and Tokyo, not just Binghamton and Cleveland.

When I used to work at the Rainbow Centre, we had tourists from all nations who had basically stumbled across the bridge on foot, or had arrived by tour bus from Toronto or NY. I'm sure many visitors had driven in from neighboring states, or rented a car at BNI or Pearson... but a large percentage of international travelers do NOT get around by car. They go where the tour bus takes them, or rely on local public transportation.

NF-ON has provided the Peoplemover to quickly and easily shuttle tourists to all the major Canadian-side attractions. The NFTA's service between NF and Buffalo is somewhat difficult and confusing even for us locals who know it's there.

Now that the NFTA has re-zoned travel across the area, it would be great to add more tourist-friendly service in NF and into Buffalo. The Peoplemover is a great example of overcoming the language and currency barriers for foreign tourists, and should be implemented on our side as well (at least on the major tourist lines between NF, downtown and the airport... if not system-wide). The NF bus station is a scary place indeed! And that's coming from a person who used it every day, I can only imagine what people from the other side of the planet thought of it.

Visitors to NF-ON are also quite agreeable to walking, Clifton Hill and Queen's Park are very pedestrian-friendly. For the brave souls who venture across the bridge however, the State Park is reasonably accessible, but downtown NF-NY is anything BUT inviting to people on foot. (For that matter, roads signs in the areas aren't much help to people in cars either)

The NF-Buffalo connection needs to stop limiting itself to attracting visitors from just Toronto and Rochester. When we make it easier for people from Berlin and Beijing, the day-trippers will feel the results just as easily.

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This past summer I worked down at the Cave of the Winds in the Niagara Fall's state park. All day long I would answer questions for tourists and try to push them in the right direction. Most people wouldn't believe it, but half the time I would be asked about Buffalo (or the surrounding areas). Usually how to to get to the Albright Knox, Naval Yard, Elmwood Avenue, Walden Galleria and the Anchor Bar. This might be a shock to people but most of the tourists are well aware of Buffalo's close proximity and really do want to check it out.

It's really a shame that the city has such a big disconnect with the biggest tourist attraction in the region. These people are looking for a place to shop, eat and spend time out side of the state park. Especially some of the far away foreign tourists who are looking to experience some "Americana". Isn't Buffalo supposed to the All American city?

A lot of the tourists who come to the Falls do use public transportation too. That "trolley" that goes to the Aquarium, Gorge Discovery Center and all over Niagara Falls loop is very popular. Come down to the falls during the summer and see how long the lines are at the queuing station. Find a way to have Buffalo connected and I guarantee they will come. The guy above who said the tourists want a vacation from their cars was right on. If people wait hours just to get on the trolley, what's another half hour getting to a whole other city full of attractions?

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COMMENT OF THE WEEK. I love this. Right on!

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I took advantage of the Niagara Falls Discovery Pass last month with a friend of mine who was a first timer here from NYC and we both took the #40 Bus from downtown Buffalo, got off in front of the Casino, walked down Third St. to the Falls and hopped on the Trolly to all the attractions. You're right, it was packed each time we got on and it made us see all of the attractions in one day which was well worth it. A train from downtown N.F. to downtown Buffalo would be a huge boost not just for tourists, but for those of us who don't drive in this region.

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Well not too long ago, I ran into several Tourist from Shanghai. They were traveling to NF next. I said,.. I'm from Buffalo. They said ..Where is that?

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I think there definitely needs to be a direct trolley or bus to go from the falls to Buffalo, but it must be FREE. Who could say no to a free ride into a city center when you're on vacation?

The other major advantage we have is that it is much less expensive to visit Buffalo and the US side of the falls over the Canadian side and Toronto. We should be making it very clear to any visitor that there is a fairly large metro area nearby with many activities to do and it is much more economical than the Canadian side.

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I'd love to see a breakdown on how many people go to NF, NY vs NF, Ont. The state side-and the whole of NF, NY-is a disgusting crime ridden, mess. Buffalo is always in the joke pipeline, but those people have never been to the Falls in NY. Contrast this with the Canadian side, a perfect example of a clean, well managed tourist town. Please, nobody should be encouraging any kind of link between Buffalo and NF.

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So...do nothing and dont try to tap the tourist resources in Niagara Falls? No need to try to improve things in "joke" Buffalo and crime ridden Niagara Falls because Niagara Falls Canada has already beaten us to being a well managed tourist town? Doesnt seem to be anything proactive in that. I guess the message is just give up and let things continue as they have for decades, just a big downward spiral.

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no, the message is that I don't want the mutants coming to buffalo from niagara falls. they should build a wall around that city and make it a prison. that's not a bad idea for a movie come to think of it.

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I've always had visitors tell me they love the Canadian side because of the touristy attractions, the view, and the cleanliness/safety aspect. Then I show them the American side *I* know: Goat Island, Luna Island, the State Park, Cave of the Winds, and cap it off with a visit to Devil's Hole and an easy hike right down the gorge.

The resounding reaction is that NF-ON is like a Las Vegas carnival that is cheap and tawdry by comparison, and that NF-NY is more natural, peaceful and beautiful where you can get right next to the water and experience the Falls up close on a more personal level.

The CITY of NF-NY is certainly less of an attraction, but once you pass into the park and the natural world, all that disappears into pure organic wilderness - something you can never experience on the Canadian side where the noise and neon surround you more intensely than the Falls themselves.

19th century tourists were awed by daredevils and spectacles. 20th century folks viewed the world from their car. The 21st century is seeing people return to the original wonder of experiencing nature on a more personal and up-close basis. That is the draw that NY has lacked in promoting tourism. We can only reach a small percentage of tourists with casinos, shops and attractions... but we have the lion's share of preserved parkland and experiences where one can literally touch the Falls.

Perhaps over-advertising it may ruin this unique advantage, but until then I will still enjoy the amazement on my friends' faces when I take them to Three Sisters or right to the water's edge below Whirlpool Park. I always hear "How did you know this was here?", and usually answer "How did you not see it from the other side of the river?"

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COMMENT OF THE WEEK II. Totally!! Recently I did a year of AmeriCorps service, part of it working on the Niagara Greenway. In the course of that, I explored the entire Buffalo River and Niagara River corridors, and did a number of hikes in the Niagara Gorge (some of it with now-Assemblyman John Ceretto, who has years of experience leading hikes there). If I hadn't seen it all with my own eyes, I'd have a hard time believing the awesome beauty of what's there -- much of it within a short walk of downtown Niagara Falls and not so very far at all from Buffalo.

Yet most of the trail system suffers from lack of maintenance, adequate signage, and capital investment. The only thing more astonishing than the natural and recreational resource is how monumentally we're neglecting it.

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So you'd rather have greenery than Las Vegas? In my backyard, yes. But what I'm getting at is the "tourist experience" which is what-ironically enough-tourists want. You can only be mesmerized by the falls for so long, then it's time to get something to eat & be entertained. When tourists turn around in NF, Ont there are many nice touristy options. In NF, NY you'll turn around and you'll see shards of glass all around your car.

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You can find nature and greenery in lots of places. I guess that explains why nobody ever goes to visit Yosemite or the Grand Canyon or the Barrier Reef or...

To me, viewing the Falls from the Canadian side is like getting a postcard from Egypt or Paris. Nice view, worth the 50 cents, now where can we get something to eat? But actually climbing the pyramids, standing inside the Louvre, hiking down the Grand Canyon, swimming on the Barrier Reef, camping in Yosemite... those are entirely different experiences than just looking at something pretty from a half mile away and taking a picture for your facebook page.

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Wow....talk about a nasty opinion! There are many people working very hard to make a great impression of Niagara Falls NY. It's because of people like you that fight against progress in the Falls. Yes we have our issues but I suggest that you look around your own back yard for the "shards of glass". Either be a part of the solution or you are a major part of the problem.

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Before the trollys were ripped out of the street in 1950. Our two cities DID have a rail line (trolly) that ran from Downtown Buffalo to Niagara Falls all day and billboards were all over downtown promoting it. Both our cities have to improve the downtown areas alittle more (we're starting too, but more is needed especially along our Main Street- still too depressing and embarassing to show off to tourists).

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I'm sure the rail lines are still present between NF and Buffalo, even if abandoned.

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I understand that NF, NY is not too interested to collaborate with Bflo on joint marketing, lest we should steel any of their tourist dollars. A direct transportation link is the way to go.

However, in regards to erecting a large "electric chair" (pretty grotesque) or any other silver bullet ideas-neh, just keep being authentic Buffalo....and the visitors will come in droves. We don't need gimmicks-we need redevelopment that reflects the authenticity and history of the region. This is one reason that I am such a huge preservationist-we lose economic/revenue potential when we tear down our buildings (for which people will come visit.)

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It is the height of incompetence that NFNY remains the embarrassment that it is. There is no excuse for that city to be in the state that it is in and will continue to be in for a long time - because there is no one leading it anyplace. Buffalo as well should be feeding off what should be an economic power house. Buffalo Niagara airport should be serving multiple international flights to serve Niagara Falls tourism but currently and inexplicably allows Toronto to do that instead.

Were is leadership on this 22.5M visitors and NFNY looks like a sh*t hole. Where is the state and local leadership on this?

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The so called 'leaders' pocket our tax, state and county money and put up a front about 'studies' and never get anything done. We've been here long enough to know how it works. ...WE NEED NEW LEADERSHIP BY THOSE WITH WHO DON'T FOLLOW THE STATUS QUO!!!!

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STEEL its nice to read an "organic" post from you. I've always been a fan of "call it how you see it", and your assessment of NF having no leadership is spot on. I mean, for crying out loud look at Paul Dyster\. That guy isnt even capable of tying his tie correctly. Every time I see him in an interview I think, "whos this homeless guy in a suit?". The way an individual dresses presents themself in most cases (Byron Brown excluded, because of the confused look he always has) is very indicitive of the type of person you are. If NF had any leadership at all, it would be light years further ahead of where it is now.

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Because 400 parcels of land in downtown NF are held by companies owned by NY billionaire, Milstien, who is sitting on them.

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Actually, he is not literally sitting on the land. He is sitting where ever the newly appointed head of the NYS Thruway Authority sits.

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Whats the actual visiter breakdown though? 50,000 NFNY and 22.45 million on the Canadian side? How many peole here have told people "cross the bridge...better" I know I have, many times. Our side is Ghetto.

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Its the Canadian government that introduced legal wagering in Niagara Falls Ontario that caused the boom to their area financially to invest in NF and Niagara Falls NY gives the land to the Indians to control losing tax base? I used to go to the game room and see the attractions on Clifton hill in 1986 with my gf in high school it was still a lot better then the American side. I worked in NF NY in 1989 on Main st and NF was just just filled with crack heads and gangs. I used to have to go in the projects and some of the worse crack areas in that city for my job. This was during the crack is wack days. I drive though NF now and it looks even worse then the crack is wack days everything is abandoned its really sad.

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how hard would it be to use the amtrak right of way to install a light rail or trolley to downtown NFNY?

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NFB -

The use of streetcars and Light Rail Vehicles, LRVs, currently used by Metro Rail, have particular sets of advantages and disadvantages. These characteristics may not necessarily be best suited for expanding rail service to NF.

A better alternative may be Diesel Multiple Units.

Diesel Multiple Units (DMU) have been around in one form or another since the 1920’s. Used primarily in commuter service, DMUs are simply self propelled passenger coaches. As such, their great advantage is flexibility. Adding capacity is relatively easy and inexpensive. Similarly to Light Rail, no additional locomotives need to be added when more seats are required, just add another DMU. Additionally, some DMUs are powerful enough to haul additional conventional coaches.

Most DMUs have controls at both ends, and do not require turning at their terminals.
No overhead power is required, making it less expensive to build and maintain longer or less trafficked routes.

Unlike most LRVs or streetcars, many kinds of DMUs meet Federal Railroad Administration crash worthiness standards to travel in mixed passenger and freight rail corridors, enabling them to operate on existing trackage without expensive investment in Right of Way acquisition.

Of note, second hand (rebuilt) DMUs are readily available in the United Stated. For example, a 1950 era Rail Diesel Car seats approximately 90 in the most common commuter configuration and are available widely Newer versions are also available domestically from suppliers like US Railcar (http://www.usrailcar.com).


Since DMUs can typically share tracks with freight traffic, a route could primarily follow the current Amtrak right of way from Depew to Downtown to Niagara Falls, with some deviations and extensions to provide service to the two airports, as well as following extending the route from the Whirlpool Rapids Bridge south along Whirlpool Street for improved tourist access.

By using the existing rail corridor, this new service can reduce capital investment by utilize existing passenger rail infrastructure. Currently, Amtrak already has three staffed stations in Depew, Buffalo, and Niagara Falls. Although these stations would likely require capacity improvements to handle the increase in traffic, land acquisition costs would be minimal. The trackage is already designed for passenger traffic speeds and is already signaled appropriately. However, heavy service expansions could increase costs. Multiple trains may require the addition of new passing sidings or double tracking. Freight intensive areas on Buffalo’s East Side, Cheektowaga and at the International Railroad Bridge could also prove to be operational bottlenecks. Flyovers could be constructed to mitigate such challenges.

Rail service along this corridor has potential for multiple functionalities: as a double ended commuter road; airport connector; local intracity services; while facilitating tourist access to the region. Additionally, a Tonawandas to Grand Island ferry to rail connection could help alleviate some of the inevitable delays that occur on the Grand Island Bridges during the summer tourist season. Urban stops at the former Belt Line Stations allow for easy transfers to other transportation modes.

Because of the lower start up costs, limited demonstration services could begin quickly with small capital investment to gauge ridership potential.

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YES!!! Notice all the signs for Trollys to Niagara Falls and Lockport, which color train to take. AND thier is even a sign on the far left for the Pan-American Expo, cool!

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a travesty

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A lot of problems in the downtown area have more to do with land grabbers like Milstein, who has been sitting on the land right behind the casino for years. He's no different then a slum lord, just with a lot of money and power.

This along with urban renewal and lack of leadership has left Niagara Falls looking the way it is down there. I think the tide really is starting to change though, the Old Falls street walk way has been opened for a few years and is starting to boom, the Niagara Community College Culinary Center will be opening up right outside of state park next year (they just tore down the old pedestrian bridge from the rainbow mall yesterday)and developers from Ontario have renovated the Inn on the river into a Sheraton Four Points (along with also renovating the hotel right across from the casino). It's going to take a while but I think the city will get there.

Also, I believe the American Niagara Falls side pulls in an average of 8 million tourists alone during the summer season. That's quite an impressive number in it's own right. I know it may be hard for some people to get there head around but a lot of people come to the state park to see the Falls' natural side. A lot of people are turned off by the Canadian side being cheap and filled with tourist traps. Who would really want to go to a haunted house when you can walk through the bottom of the gorge or go to the bottom of the American falls? If so many tourists were fleeing right over to the Canadian side afterwards, why would the Niagara wine trail or the Seneca casino be doing so good? There's a reason the park has been consistently one of the most popular attractions in the world since it first became a state park in 1884.

Oh yea, Buffalo's mutants aren't nothing to sneeze at either.

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Just noticed something about that list: of the "top 11" tourist attractions, three are in NYC (Times Square #1, Central Park #2, Grand Central #6) and three are Disney parks (Orlando #8, Annaheim #9, Tokyo #11). Even Washington DC counts Union Station as #4... the monuments and museums don't even break the top 30!

NYC obviously lends itself to bringing repeat tourists, given that there is so much to see and do. If you only visit once in your lifetime, you are likely to see most of the top sights on the same trip... but if you've visited 100 times you are still likely to find something new to experience on your 101st visit.

As for Disney, a visitor may make a separate trip for EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, etc, but how many people would make a special trip to see Tokyo Disney after you've already been to DisneyLand or DisneyWorld?

I'd be interested to know what the top attractions are at Niagara. The experience from the Maid of the Mist is very different from the Skylon or Spanish Aero Car. How many people would go out of their way to visit a casino if they're visiting from Memphis where they can already gamble on a riverboat? What is the attraction of visiting a Hard Rock or Madame Tussaud's when one has already seen the similar versions in any number of other tourist towns?

Growing up so close to the Falls, most of us have probably seen or done a vast majority of the individual attractions at one time or another (everything from the Cave of the Winds to the Floral Clock may seem old hat to us), yet be completely unaware of out-of-the-way places like the Butterfly Conservatory or Devil's hole.

Perhaps a good marketing strategy for the American side would be to package similar excursions that cater to niche markets.
Thrill seekers: Cave of the Winds, Jetboat, Maid of the Mist.
Naturalists: Gorge hikes, Goat Island, Lake Erie Cruises, Zoar, Letchworth.
History Buffs: Shelkopf, Underground Railroad, Buffalo Museums.
Cultural: Theaters, Albright-Knox, Artpark, Martin House.
Animal Lovers: Aquarium, Buffalo Zoo, Butterfly Garden, Marineland.
Leisure: Casinos, restaurants, shopping, parks, wineries.
Even religious tourists: Fatima, OLV, Polonia, the Buddist Monastery in NF-ON.
And of course, a 'top attractions package' and 'undiscovered Niagara' package.

This is a job for a REGIONAL tourist board. The CVB spends too much time trying and failing to attract businesses to deal with family vacationers. Individual attractions (and even separate cities) are too scared of losing their own piece of the pie to consider the benefits of partnering with others to maximize tourist dollars.

Even cities like Atlanta and Pittsburgh market package deals to funnel visitors who would otherwise only visit one or two attractions across four or five lesser-known sites. When you visit the Carnegie Museum, you are practically swindled into taking a side-trip to the Warhol and the Science Center. A ticket to the World of Coca-Cola comes with advertisements and discounts to CNN Center and the Georgia Aquarium.

There are too many visitors (and even locals) who think that just because they've ridden the Mist boat or been to the top of the Skyon, they've seen and done all there is to do at Niagara. How many people spend a day-trip to NYC or DC and don't feel like going back to do some of the things they've missed? When we turn Niagara Falls from a day-trip excursion into a weekend getaway (or week-long vacation), we can not only reap the benefits from individual attraction dollars, but also count on hotel and restaurant revenues for the wider region.

Every tourist who steps foot in Niagara Falls or Buffalo should leave with the desire to come back to see the stuff they missed, not bored with the fact that they did two things and think that they've seen it all.

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In the past I've stayed a couple times in NF ON while visiting Toronto, which is much more inviting than NF NY. Recently though, while visiting Buffalo, I park on the Robert Moses and walk to Goat Island which offers much more than the Ontario side for nature sightseeing. I really haven't stepped foot in downtown NF NY. I have no idea what's worth seeing there.

However bad NF NY is, it doesn't seem to be detracting visitors from being there. Question is, where do they stay?

As far as getting them to Buffalo, having an attractive travel info center and coach terminal centrally located would be simple, fairly inexpensive and quicker to set up than some train scenario. Buffalo is so close. And by bus, I mean one of those nice modern coaches popular now, not a NFTA bus.

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The first railroad in WNY was the Buffalo and Black Rock Railroad completed in 1834. General Peter B. Porter recognized the potential of linking Buffalo as the terminus of the Erie Canal with the premier tourist attraction in the area. He and other investors extended the line to Niagara Falls and the Buffalo and Niagara Falls Railroad began operation in 1836. The project was very successful and resulted in prosperity for those involved at Buffalo and Niagara Falls.

As for the city today, I think much of the problem can be traced back to the urban renewal that took place in the 1960's. The area now dominated by the casino was once the heart of the city, filled with interesting old buildings housing all kinds of small business catering to the tourist trade. Today this area is basically a wasteland, devoid of any life or investment.

I agree with many of the comments above that the American side (in the state park)is far more attractive. The Canadian side lacks the natural beauty and is much too disney like.

The city has suffered the same fate as so many older urban areas, misguided urban renewal, disinvestment, and flight of middle class residents to the suburbs. The city also suffered from poor leadership and corruption. All these factors were enabled by government policies that undermined cities all over our country.

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Great thread of discussion here, I never understood why in my lifetime Buffalo and Niagara Falls are considered so separate. Every time the Bills play at home and they show the Falls, my dad mentions something about that not being in Buffalo. (He's from the Falls originally). Nevermind the fact that Orchard park is just as far away if not farther.

I like the idea of a trolley or train to get between the two cities, but what about by boat? I'm not entirely sure how far down the river you can safely go, but think of the history with Lasalle's Griffon being built on the river bank, then being dropped off at the Erie Canal terminus.

Then coming from Buffalo to the falls, you are making the same trip as the water, maybe a trolley to take you the rest of the way onto goat island, and follow the river past the three sister islands, until you reach the Horeshoe falls. There always seems to be an element of suspense starting up stream at the rapids and making your way along the river until you hit the falls. (something you can't really do well on the Canadian side I might add)

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If not a train or trolley between downtown NF and Buffalo, at least some kind of bus (as someone mentioned before, not a city bus).

I could imagine it could perhaps having at least one stop in the middle at the Albright Knox.

What would be a good drop-off point in downtown Buffalo?

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It makes my head hurt that it took 20 years for TGI Fridays to move in downtown NF. I'm not one for chains, but that is where tourists like to go. NF state park is a money maker, it is a shame at the state it is in.

Fix up the park, bring in some chains, and maybe some big bucks will flow in.

It is not like legitimate successful developers have not been in the city. They just have the life sucked out of them.

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