City October 31, 2011 9:50 AM

Kunstler on Beef-on-Weck, City Court Building, and Preservation

Kunstler on Beef-on-Weck, City Court Building, and Preservation
James Howard Kunstler, author of several books (both fiction and nonfiction) on the the folly of our system of sprawl development and the coming danger of peak oil, gave the key note address to the National Trust for Historic Preservation conference at Sheas Theater a little over a week ago.  

Kunstler also has a weekly internet podcast (posted each Thursday at kunstlercast.com) hosted by Duncan Crary.   Last Thursday's program was recorded on the thruway, the day after the key note as Duncan and James headed back to their home base in the Albany area. Being that their trip was all about preservation Duncan interviews Kunstler on his Buffalo lecture.  Anyone who was at the Buffalo event knows that Kunstler can give a powerful and provocative talk.  In this podcast he expounds on his Buffalo speech and does a little (misinformed) beef on weck trash talk.  Much of the conversation revolved, not around saving very old classical buildings, but around what to do with buildings of our recent past (aging modern buildings).  They also discussed the state of downtown Buffalo, critiqued the City Court Building, gave a shout out to the Buffalo Young Preservationists and talked about people moving to Buffalo. He gets a few facts wrong here and there but he is an out-of towner so cut him some slack.

If you are a Kunstler fan you might also check out the new Kunstlercast book available in stores soon or immediately on line at the Kunstlercast web site. I hope to do a review of the book when time allows.  In the meantime check out the cover of the book (seen here).  It is an amazingly accurate critique of what we accept today as good enough in our built environment.  The full illustration can be seen at the Kunstlercast site.  It makes me sick thinking about how this happened and how so many people blindly accept this sorry landscape as inevitable.  


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Well, he had buffet beef on weck - probably not exactly the best representative of that humble sandwich.

I knew Kunstler would ruffle some feathers among the preservationists and I was apparently right, judging by what I heard about the chatter after his talk.

Preservationists and urbanists are usually allies for now. There will be a bit of a schism when and if preservation organizations start to campaign to enshrine the aging McDonalds and Walmarts of the country, simply because they've gotten old enough to be "historic".

I consider myself a preservationist, but one who wants to preserve older buildings not because they are old, but because they are 100x the quality of almost anything built today, in terms of craftsmanship and in terms of urban design.

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I do occasionally lose some sleep over buildings like City Court and the Convention Center.

They seem to be right at the cusp of being a really bad idea, or being a salvageable monument to future generations on how NOT to build a building... but then I realize, at the time they were being designed, people probably thought the exact same thing about all the treasures we are working so hard to save today.

I shudder at the thought of 50 years from now, turning into a demolitionist to get rid of these eyesores, while my grandkids are pleading their hearts out to save them from the wrecking ball. If fate has a cruelly ironic hand, either myself of my children will be living in grain elevator condominiums as we debate it all...

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kunstler had a few other minor factual errors, too. amongst other things, he confused niagara square and fountain plaza.

i'm a kunstler fan but what is up with his grating theme song? makes me hate opening his podcasts. david byrne's 'nothing but flowers' predates kunstler's long emergency stuff by 15 years and would be a way better theme song.

http://www.ted.com/talks/david_byrne_sings_nothing_but_flowers.html?c=161996

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I like the theme song, though I agree that "(Nothing But) Flowers" describes the "long emergency" long before most people were talking about it. But even if Duncan and Jim wanted it as the podcast theme song, I bet the royalty cost would be out of their budget.

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He's trying to sell his books with a vaudeville routine. It's amusing enough, but the substance wears thinner and thinner.

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Kunstler may have a wry sense of humor, but his topic is as serious as a heart attack, and he is trying to wake people up to the mountain of work that we will all need to do to address the massive changes that are coming.

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You can only describe the substance as being thin if you have your head in the sand

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[Please refrain from posting under multiple screen names] Kunstler is obviously envious of others who opine on current events, predominantly those who have struck a more optimistic chord, whether you agree or disagree, seems to have found him wondering how so many people could ignore or reject his vitriolic dribble while rallying behind someone who at least poses palatable / viable alternatives. No-one likes a self involved know it all. Maybe he was picked on in Middle School and High School , if so......he should get over it.

What sense does it make to approach "any" problem by deriding all those whose views fall outside the scope of his own narrow mind. What is the benefit of his tunnel visioned road trips but to criticize all that he sees. People, architecture, infrastructure all fall victim to your personal inferiority complex.

Personally, I have little confidence in government, have never been inclined to blindly follow political prophets, movements, or cynics, am not overweight, I do not manufacture or use Meth, nor do I carp at the inevitable cycles of life. Spring has always followed Winter and if that ceases to be the case some will find a way to flourish and even if not, what kudos will those of his ilk get from screaming (Munch like)... I TOLD YOU SO. If he believes that "we become what we think about" what on earth has he become or better yet what has he spent his life thinking about?

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