City September 8, 2011 9:44 AM

We're Re-Opening the Statler... Why Not Re-Imagine Niagara Square?

We’re Re-Opening the Statler... Why Not Re-Imagine Niagara Square?
By Charles Gordon

A few months ago on BRO, I suggested the need to transform Niagara Square into a great public space, a space that welcomes pedestrians, a space not overwhelming by automobile (see here). Now is the right time to thoughtfully redesign the Square--- as we look forward to both the re-opening of the Statler Hotel and the late Fall dedication of the new US Courthouse across the street.  And, in doing so,  We can add tremendous $$$ [taxable] value to all nearby properties.

Buffalo has already witnessed wonderful transformations of Niagara Square for specific events.  Consider the annual Gus Macker Basketball tournament and its status as the most successful of its kind in North America.  Consider the Taste of Buffalo food festival.  On these special occasions, Niagara Square truly approximates the character, vibrancy, and use of a European public square:  a place to celebrate and not just to funnel traffic.

Consider one of the great European public Squares--Piazza di Spagna ["The Spanish Steps"] in Rome. This historic location in center of old Rome is one of the most popular center city gathering places -for residents and tourists alike.

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As photographs illustrate, the Spanish Steps features wonderful amphitheatre type stairs [great viewing angles], a focal point fountain, historic architecture as backdrop, and both vehicular and pedestrian access points around its 360 degree circumference.

Additional pedestrian friendly amenities abound-- seating, bike-racks, and especially the small scale rough textured cobblestones that control vehicular traffic without the use of curbstones. Curbs divide, while textured paving promotes sharing between cars and people.

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Even though Piazza di Spagna services more vehicular traffic in two hours than Niagara Square does in a full day, the paving and the attention to pedestrian details forces traffic to proceed slower and, ultimately, safer.  Miraculously, little traffic signage is required.   Piazza di Spagna also features many more vehicular access points than Niagara Square.  Naturally,  service and maintenance needs for shop keepers and sanitation require regular vehicular only access.  By observation, these visits are scheduled very late at night/early in the morning so as not to be disruptive.

The bottom line:  Cars and people can function very well and safely together when the uses are understood and then thoughtful design is properly executed!

How do we more permanently transform Niagara Square to resemble Piazza di Spagna?

We know that Niagara Sq was originally envisioned as THE Civic arrival lobby for the City.  Its ceremonial purpose far outweighed its use as major traffic artery;  like its great European predecessors,  NS served as a place to celebrate, to gather, NOT just to get from one place to another.

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I suggest the following, based on existing conditions analysis of infrastructure and traffic patterns:

-Reduce vehicular traffic lanes by at least 25% City Population now 270,000 not almost 600,000 when current Square was implemented

-Widen sidewalks and plant  lots of mature trees to perimeter of Square ie in front of Statler, Federal Courthouse,  [especially]City Hall, Post Office Building,  City Courts to soften these areas, increase feeling of intimacy and improve wind protection

-Create landscaped islands to narrow pedestrian access points, to  promote a more human-friendly scale,  and eliminate unnecessary  raised curbs wherever possible

-Reinforce pedestrian "desire lines" by repaving significant portions of the existing driving surfaces with cobblestone type paving material, especially at most  intensive points of pedestrian-vehicular conflict including:

o   the steps of City Hall to the Square

o   across Court Street to the Square

o   future entry points from the Statler directly to the Square

o   from new federal courthouse front steps/plaza to the Square

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Finally, create and implement a comprehensive landscaping plan at the base of City Hall--even integrating the garden treatment with the entrance stairways to create a welcome mat, to soften the edges, reduce the intimidation factor of the hall, provide pedestrian scale transitional element, and finally to better link the Hall entry experience to the Square.     

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Future essays will explore:

·Niagara Square as an important link to the Waterfront via Genesee Street, 

·Establishing Niagara Square as the civic terminus for a pedestrian friendly connection to Canalside/Commercial Slip

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Looks like a great plan Charles. Does anyone remember when former mayor Stan Makowski wanted to put a maze in the square and told everyone how great it looked from up in his city hall office?

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Agree completely. Nice article. This is an opportune moment to build momentum for such a transformation.

It's not just that the square could become a much more useful public space. It's also that everything bordering the square is adversely impacted by the current traffic patterns and would greatly benefit from well planned pedestrian accommodation.

Even reaching City Hall's front steps is something of a challenge. And if you are walking north/south instead of east/west? Forget it. Don't try to cross at Delaware, either side of the square. You have to time it just right and run. Then you're on the island and have to get off. At least City Hall has that pedestrian crossing. Niagara Square should be easily accessible to pedestrians from every street that enters it. Pedestrians should rule downtown, not drivers.

(To those who are surprised to hear this last statement from me, understand: I support accommodation of vehicles, a la adequate parking arrangements. But I love walking. First and foremost, especially downtown, walking should be safe, pleasant and easy.)

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There are no crosswalks to Colonial Circle. There are no crosswalks to Ferry Circle nor a place to sit once you get there. There are no crosswalks to Chapin Circle. There are no crosswalks to Gates Circle which is the most amazing place if you take the risk to get there. D'Youville is installing a circle somewhere that also has no crosswalks. No curb cuts on most circles either for bikes. Niagara Square would be a great example of how to implement these pedestrian safety features to many of Buffalo's other circles.

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Is it true that the City Court building was originally supposed to have huge modernist sculptures on outside of building? That would be so cool to restore.

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There's a Kenneth Snelson there now. One or two more of his at the Knox, too.

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Great idea, doesn't seem cost prohibitive, most of it is really window dressing, the core is already there, we just underutilized it.

Even as a driver, I hate this circle, it's far too big. Narrowing would make it safer and easier to navigate.

I know I basically repeated the article but I agree so much nothing else to say.

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I also think the Square would be a great place to get the 'light up' treatment. The Statler especially could be amazingly lit, not to mention City Hall. I'd love to see a time when people load up the kids and take them downtown to see the lights and can walk to and from the harbor seeing all the cool architecture lit up.

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Great ideas. And beautiful drawings.

I didn't remember which mayor it was, but I remember when the work to install a "modern" maze of brick walls and built-in seating started.

Only a small portion was completed. But it was so ugly and out of place that the public outcry made the City tear the whole thing down and put things back the way they are now.

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fort makowski!

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beautiful. now how do we get city hall to actually consider this?

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Perfect idea, how does this get started now??????? Ive always wondered why is such a boring circle and why the lanes are so wide.....

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Best idea by far on BRO all year.
You can get your neighborhood associations to write letters to the Mayor and to the Common Council in support of the plan. Downtown district Council Members, especially, will embrace this idea. Look at how beautiful the circles on Richmond are, and how they have changed the grammar of traffic on that avenue.

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Would be a hugh improvement but where would the police park their cars illegally if filled with greenspace?

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I agree. Where will the police be able to nap if they have less room?

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Have to say, not a huge fan of your new build projects, Charles, but do love this concept....which I hope you champion (a la Peg of Peg's Park). It can be done, and makes a load of sense. Very exciting concepts.

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Fantastic article. I was at Niagara Square just a week or so ago (taking my son to the observation deck at the top of City Hall), and was thinking about what a missed opportunity or ignored treasure it is.

Niagara Square really could (and should) be an incredible public space along the lines of Trafalgar Square. I guess there are two things that really impede that: 1) Many more people would have to work and live in downtown Buffalo, and 2) the roads surrounding Niagara Square are too aggressive and high speed to make it a comfortable pedestrian crossing. If the street were narrowed to a single lane of traffic around the circle I think it would go a long way to making it a more inviting place to be.

Gates Circle has the same problem. The fountain is lovely, but who wants to brave that traffic to cross the street to sit by it? And even if you did, the traffic noise must detract from the experience.

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What I love is how Buffalo has Niagara Square that's actually a circle, and Syracuse has Columbus Circle that's actually a square.

I think this would be a great thing to pursue, and timing seems good with the Statler project, the Federal courthouse, the nearby Corn Exchange, and also the recently renewed interest in placemaking thanks to the work of the Project for Public Spaces.

Also, couldn't agree more with Bini's description of Frogger: Niagara Square Edition. We've got to change that.

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I thought the same thing, however when you look down from the upper floors of the Statler or City Hall the outside perimeter of NS is actually a square, in inner part is a circle.

At any rate the city should seriously consider this as it will have nothing but positive effects. Especially with more office space and residential all around here coming online this fall there will certainly be a greater influx of pedestrians.

I would venture to guess that less pavement and more greenspace will cost less to maintain over time too. Furthermore, there is never a traffic issue on this square so lessening the lanes should not disrupt the volume, only the speed and space at which cars can travel.

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Yep -- especially the part about reducing lanes.

BTW, saw your place a week or so ago -- nice!

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Thanks! Were you on a bicycle per chance?

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Nope. I wasn't that guy.

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Very exciting! Niagara Square is currently the most terrifying place to walk in the city to me. I had to go to city hall recently on foot and it literally took me ten minutes to get across the circle. We can't be very pedestrian friendly with that being the case.

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Love It. Excellent idea Charlie.

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What better use could there be for Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Funding???

This is certainly a project to bring to Ellicott District Council member Darius G. Pridgen. As others have stated, the budget is not outrageous to complete these improvements (especially phased in over two or three years) and the payoff would be huge.

Not to mention how much it would help the many people in Mr. Pridgen's district who don't have access to automobiles and rely on walking and public transportation

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As the article says "-Reduce vehicular traffic lanes by at least 25% City Population now 270,000 not almost 600,000 when current Square was implemented"

Well who actually pays for this? We have other things we need to spend our money wisely on. Nice ideas- but it takes a bigger population base to pay for and MAINTAIN extra paving types, landscaping, etc. Just look around Buffalo and you'll see lots of new or recent landscaping that has had ZERO adequete service this year.

I live in the Arlington Park area - our neighborhood spends its own cash to make it better, plant flowers, building a trellis, etc. The city barely cuts the lawn! We dont have people living around the square to pick up the city's slack on this one. Unless faced with an upcoming rebuild project, save these ideas for the future when the population is back up.

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With all due respect, the population may never be "back up". Particularly when our Downtown is a wind-swept vortex of energy that repels potential future residents.

Wouldn't a vibrant Niagara Square go a long way toward creating a positive and human-scaled living environment Downtown? I'd say there are also better odds of the City maintaining a major public square than a (lovely) residential pocket park in Allentown like Arlington Park.

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I don't think Byron will let the grass grow too tall right in front of City Hall. This one of those projects that, while not neccesarily required, would go long way in the perception of downtown and any perspective residents / visitors. That is all part of regenerating population in our downtown core. Now if the project is estimated at $2mill they might want to rethink it a bit. If it is between $500k and a mill than I think it is worth the loot for what we will gain out of it. Besides, the square needs to be repaved sometime soon anyway in my opinion, now is the time to make the changes.

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You have a good point. I am tired of twig-like trees planted then forgotten, and are dead within a year or two.

There has to be a commitment from the surrounding buildings and property owners to maintain the landscaping on their side. In other cities, there are BIDs that generate the funds for this sort of thing.

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So, besides the great article, where do we go from here? How does something like this happen in our economically challenged world?

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The traffic circle is monsterous and there is really no need. 22 of 24 hours the circle almost empty. All of the lanes are really wasted space.

It would be really nice if a necklace park could be built between Niagara and Lafayette sq. It would make the heart of downtown much softer and encourage people to get out of the office and down on the street.

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WOW!! This is so encouraging! I love the new trees and plants around the circle it is so much better than the black pavement that is there today.

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I love the idea, but would caution against an arbor-esque version of Fort Makowski. One of the biggest complaints against the fort (aside from its hideous appearance) was that it blocked views from the street and became a magnet for crime. If I recall correctly, there were even reports of people being raped in broad daylight because nobody saw or heard what was going on behind the brick walls. TOO many trees could create a similar effect.

To me, one of the nicest aspects of Niagara square is that it is such a wide open urban public space. On the rare occasions that we get to use it as such (presidential visits, the sesquicentennial, the 9/11 vigil, Bills/Sabres rallies) that openness is an asset. If we forest the inner part of the circle too densely or with trees that are too large, we begin to block views and negate the usability of the space for those sorts of purposes.

Personally, I would prefer to see the inner part of the square like the "early 1900s" postcard, with lawns and plaza space and add some benches and flower beds. Move the trees to the outside of the traffic lanes and the new islands at the corners (but without blocking City Hall... those architectural details were MEANT to be appreciated from street level).

Traffic can definitely be calmed and reduced to a single or double lane. Perhaps even remove the stop lights and replace them with pedestrian crosswalks to the new islands at the corners instead of the sides. It really makes more sense to access the circle from Niagara and Genesee instead of Court and Delaware. Along with proper signage that pedestrians have the right of way. Downtown Atlanta is having some success with removing red-lights and replacing them with signs planted directly in the middle of the street, warning motorists to stop for pedestrians within the crosswalks.

Unfortunately, bricked pavers as crosswalks wouldn't survive very long... in snow or ice, it seems like there is usually one plow dedicated to keeping Niagara Square dry as a bone 24/7 while smaller sidestreets go unplowed for days. But there are new colorful paving methods (as was going to be installed on Grant St) that are more snowplow friendly.

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very insightful observation. case in point: wino park between north & south division. i don't know its real name. lots of green space! ample trees! should be a people magnet, right? obviously not.

yes to a road diet, traffic calming, and north/south pedestrian crossings in niagara square. long overdue.

having said that, i don't go downtown for an olmsted park experience, i go downtown for an urban experience.

i am not sure what is so upsetting about a masonry building meeting the sidewalk without any complications (grass, shrubberies, bark mulch, elevated or recessed entrances, etc). but it sure seems to alarm people into adding pointless, neurotic "green spaces."

the view from lafayette square to niagara square is one of the most magnificent vistas in any american city. please don't obscure city hall's splendid friezes behind a tree cover.

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"wino park" (Lols) is the remains of the Joseph Ellicott Estate which fronted Shelton Square (see my post below). I believe it is now known simply as Division Park. Today, we respect and revere Ellicott for laying out the street pattern, but a lot of people forget that the first settlers of the city actually drove him out of town and tore down his house. They were pissed that he plopped his home down in the middle of the primest of prime real estate, and then divided the city in half by fencing off that entire park as his own back yard - withOUT the cross streets that today run through it. They also weren't too keen on the street names he chose, which were dedicated to the unpronouncible Dutch board of directors for the Holland Land Company. (I believe Main St was originally called Vollenhoveren St.) As soon as Ellicott was gone, the citizens promptly renamed all the streets and changed the city's name from New Amsterdam to Buffalo.

That tidbit of history aside, I agree with you. There are already quite a few verdant spaces downtown. As pleasant and precious as they are, they are somewhat mixed in their ability to really remain enjoyable for very long. Aside from the ballpark and a few oversized parking lots, Niagara Square is unique in its expanse of openness. It is unparallelled for its views and vistas. We can certainly green it up by adding in some islands at the corners, low-rise shrubbery, flower beds and lawns, perhaps even small pools or fountains, shrink the pavement footprint of a three-lane traffic circle (which honestly confuses drivers more than it helps them).

But trees and vertical elements just aren't suitable for the space. They provide shade but block views. They soften edges but divide and muddle up a truly stunning space. We have plenty of spots where people can sit in the shade, but we only have ONE public square where people can enjoy such a magnificent 360-degree view. If anything, I think Niagara Square would be a great place to lay out on the grass or on a small berm to get some sun. Shade can easily be found up the street at virtually any other spot downtown.

Most of our public spaces are introspective, you go there to enjoy that particular spot. Niagara Square is extrospective, you go there to appreciate everything that SURROUNDS it. The entire city looks in on its center at Niagara Square... and the square returns the favor by providing a place to look out at the city that surrounds it.

I think we should be enhancing THAT quality. It's truly unique for almost any city in the Americas. In addition to the Spanish Steps, I think we can also look to the Zocalo in Mexico City, Washington Square in NYC, and even the Mall in DC.

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Hi DeanerPPX.


While your comments are quite thoughtful, I need to respectfully disagree. Perhaps a long time ago that view was beautiful, but it's quite sad today. Lush greenery and trees will not divide the view, or lessen any dramatic architectural qualities of the square, but instead, make it feel more comfortable, as perhaps it was many years ago when people filled that square. That time is gone, modern day cars lacking character whip in and out, and now the residents of the Buffalo community are responsible for bringing it back to life. Adding depth to the square, with trees, flowers, bushes, will hopefully make the space more comfortable, welcoming, and naturally rich.

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Correction: Erie St (now Cathedral Park) Was Vollenhoven Av, Main St was Vanstaphorst Av, Niagara St was Schimmelpennick Av, and the Ellicott Estate actually extended from Eagle St to Swan St (as well as from Main to around Michigan)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Buffalo_1805.jpg

And as far as I can tell from googling historical photos, the trees that currently do grow in Niagara Square are relatively new additions. They seem to have appeared in the late '60s or early '70s, perhaps to replace Fort Makowski. They're barely older than me! Before that, the square is simply lawns and walkways, without even the flower beds that flank the entrances and surround the monument.

1960s: http://www.historicmapworks.com/Buildings/Images/NY/NY0568-116265pt.gif

1970s: http://www.mssgraphics.com/Buffalo/Resources/niagsq.jpeg

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that's correct. niagara square is more lush now than it has ever been. old postcards online show grassy lawns and no flower gardens of any kind.

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Wow, these look exactly like the plans I did for the Statler and Niagara Square in 2006. Traffic calming can and should be implemented on the square, as well as really looking at how much pavement we actually drive on vs how much has been there historically. We can actually do with much less pavement! Trees can be accomplished here as well, but due to the prevalence of underground vaults in this area of the city, some interesting detailing needs to be done, and we've been thinking about that detail for several years. I'd love to chat more with you about this type of project if you'd like! www.jklastudio.com

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Issa sold them on the black market.

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But those 3 unmarked lanes work so well ;)

And please do not rebuild the city court parking ramp in it's current configuration. Bring back W.Genessee toward the lake.

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A couple more things: the 20th-Century layout of Niagara Square was a Daniel Burnham design (the statuary was designed by Carrere and Hastings) -- I wonder how much of that design has been compromised over the last century, and whether a revisioning should first see if there are elements of the original plan which should be restored.

Second: the Square should be more friendly for those who might enjoy sitting out in the warm weather with a laptop, iPAD, Kindle, etc. A couple weeks ago I was looking to plug my laptop into an outlet on the Square when one of the workers threatened me with arrest! He said a guy playing an electric guitar was arrested -- charged with "stealing the City's electricity" or some such. Gee -- what better way to welcome folks to the heart of the City than by offering them a free ride in the company of some uniformed chauffeurs--?

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OK I want to beat my drum again since we are talking about fountains, statues, etc...in a romantic reference to Italy.

I want to remind everyone of the 1901 PAN AM EXPOSITION which had an abundance of pillars, statues, fountains, bandshells, gazebos etc.

Rebuild these and spread them throughout the city...and you can elevate Buffalo to a Paris or Rome or Barcelona of the Great Lakes.

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I agree completely with the article. I also would like to know when the city is going to do some work on the some our busiest business and nightlife areas. Elmwood Ave from Forest to West Ferry is terrible. Bumpy road, dead trees, broken sidewalks. Allen St has not seen a makeover since the late 60's. Chippewa St is a disgrace. If you want to attract more people and new business inprove the surroundings.

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You're so right. Elmwood looks beaten up and tired--lots of garbage, dead trees and flowers, bad pavement. Some intersections of Delaware look like the moon. Call the Mayor's complaint online or go to City of Buffalo homepage and register your observations. We need to get the placed cleaned up before October.

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But, what about cleaning up Lafayette Square? It's full of homeless people all day and night. One side is defaced with graffitti, and you can't even enjoy this public space unless you don't mind or creeped out by the bums, drug users and sellers there.

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In the 19th century, Buffalo was known as the City In a Forest, because the tree canopy was so complete. Trees are a lot of work to maintain for the city, but the advantages are numerous. Every single street should have a broad canopy of trees.

And I agree -- if there was more shade around Niagara Sq., more people would hang out during the warm months, and that means more safety, excitement -- and food trucks!

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This would be awsome, but who and when could this actually happen? I find it hard myself to cross along either north or south of this Square (Delaware Ave.) cars just want to speed and don'g give a toot about pedestrians. Again, when is this city going to put pedestrians AHEAD of cars like other cities are now doing?

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Totally minor detail, but "We know that Niagara Sq was originally envisioned as THE Civic arrival lobby for the City" isn't entirely accurate. That distinction goes to Shelton Square (intersection of Main, Church, Division, and formerly Erie and Niagara). That's where Joseph Ellicott built his estate, where all the trolley lines converged, where St Pauls was built and was the first grand space encountered when arriving by canal or train. Even the old City Hall (now County Hall) was oriented toward Shelton Square and the Main Street spine. What was then considered the hub of downtown has today become a nameless intersection - a lot of people look blankly at you if you call it by its name, Shelton Square.

For the first half of the city's history, until the early 1900s or so, Niagara Square was more of an open empty space with no particular purpose other than to anchor the radial street plan. Niagara Square was a mix of commercial and residential with basically a park/lawn in the middle. It wasn't until the 1920s with construction of the court buildings, McKinley Monument and City Hall that Buffalo's focal point shifted from Shelton to Niagara Square.

Even Lafayette Square was a relatively unimportant space until the new City Hall closed off the back half of Court St and realigned the city. The Soldiers and Sailors Monument was originally designed to go in Soldiers Circle (the intersection of Lincoln, Bidwell and Chapin). Before that, Lafayette Sq was called Courthouse Sq, and pretty much only existed to hold people wanting to see public hangings.

It's actually just happy coincidence that Buffalo reinvented Niagara Square and Court street halfway through its history. So really, I don't see much reason against not reinventing that space once again.

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Ada Louise Huxtable, former architecture critic of the NY Times, once said that the view of Niagara Sq. from Lafayette Sq. looking down Court St. was "the most urbane view in America."

It still is, luckily. And that's my only criticism of this plan -- it doesn't go far enough. There should be a unifying landscaping design from the Main Library to City Hall, incorporating both squares and Court St. If accomplished, it would be by far the grandest two squares in north America, as I don't know of any place that comes close. They wouldn't be parks or urban spaces, but are something in between, something quite unique.

It would, in fact, be pretty damn nice if this landscaping continued all the way down Delaware Ave. right to the Park, thereby making Mr. Olmstead smile from above.

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thumbs up for that idea.

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love it.

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Ugh. I feel like Mr. Useless History Trivia today... but Olmsted would definitely be smiling at that idea because he came up with it first! In addition to the Lincoln, McKinley and Humboldt Parkways that tied Delaware Park to Humboldt/MLK Park and Cazenovia to South Park - Olmsted also utilized the already existing Delaware, Porter, Richmond and Fillmore Avenues as tree-lined boulevards to connect the entire park system into one seamless ring around the city and into downtown. There was a time not /too/ long ago when you could travel from South Park to Caz to MLK to Delaware to Front Park and back to Niagara Square without ever leaving this enormous 'park' atmosphere.

Unfortunately, Dutch elm disease destroyed most of the trees that provided a near cathedral-like canopy over Delaware. And the street was probably widened at some point to accommodate extra lanes.

If we were to ever re-create that effect, we'd be well advised to use a variety of species to avoid the possibility of another mass infection or die-off of trees.

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It's common knowledge among tree planners to avoid monoculture, even though the visual effect of it is unmatched...

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It is really awesome that even car drivers recognize the inadequacy of the square as it exists today. I feared someone would complain that reducing traffic lanes would make traffic worse or less safe.

As others pointed out, however, not only would traffic be safer (for both cars AND pedestrians), but it would not affect traffic one iota. Studies show that places with far worse traffic improve dramatically with better lane divisions and clearly marked signals. And it doesn't make other surrounding streets worse -- strangely, traffic improves. Sorta like magic.

With the light traffic that exists in downtown generally, there should be no issues to reducing traffic lanes.

(BTW, I've always dreamed that it would be nice to sit in the Statler's Terrace Room and look out over the square through a framework of mature sycamores. That would truly be a sight to sigh over, with City Hall as a dramatic focal point, and all the people walking around, and the green leaves and branches.)

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sycamores are -great- urban trees. they tolerate just about everything: salt, drought, poor soil. plus they grow fast, provide a solid canopy effect, and live a few centuries.

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Definitely, especially the hybrid Bloodgood London Planetree, which is resistant to anthracnose. They're also one of the more interesting trees to look at with their distinct leaves and mottled bark.

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The Chinese city of Hangzhou is one of the most beautiful and one of the reasons is the sycamores that lines all the streets.

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London plane Trees are a cousin of the sycamore, and are more adapt to Urban environments. Would love to see delaware ave replanted from Niagara Square to north street. Yes, not the bio diverse BS that Hordiculturists recommend, but would put Buffalo on the map as having a grand avenue akin to Champes Elysees in Paris..

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Wonderful article.


I was in town this weekend for a wedding that drew in guests from all over the country. For many, it was their first time in Buffalo. Everyone agreed that the city, while better than they thought, was depressed, sad, and many said they feel scared walking the streets. These are people that live in far more dangerous cities than Buffalo - they shouldn't feel scared walking around the Hampton Inn. It's simply too desolate of a city to not have an abundance of trees to add warmth and soften the edges. A change like this is exactly what the city needs. Make a place beautiful, and people will come. Bloor Street in Toronto just went through a similar process, adding greenery to simply make it more attractive to those shopping in the high end district.


If I can put in a special request - why not invest heavily in evergreens? Evergreens are beautiful all year round and Buffalo needs something to make it beautiful during the long winter.

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I like it. Big fan of trees.

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I, too, agree with this (somewhat basic) premise: we need to plant to hell out of downtown to soften the edges and make it more inviting, as you put it. It just seems so barren and uninviting otherwise.

I learn a lot from discussions like this, which has been surprisingly civil, (where is Monster/Ihatepoorpeople/GoodPoint/Karl to shit on the parade?) and do pay deference to people like Grad and Deaner who are more educated and sophisticated about urban planning. Their comments are particularly insightful, I find.

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Thank you.
(On behalf of all commentators!)

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Perhaps I'm losing the argument against TREES in the square, (though I wholeheartedly support other, less visually-obstructive plant life being added in massive quantities)

I actually LOVE the idea of adding evergreens!!! I'm honestly quite sick of the national media using photographs taken in the apparent dead of January to subtly denigrate our fair city even during the fullest bloom of summer.

Buffalo is a city that nature has bountifully blessed with all FOUR seasons. Niagara Sq would be a wonderful showplace to celebrate each of them! Flower beds full of bulbs and perennials that bloom each spring and naturally fade as the summer blossoms take over. Harvest blooms like sunflowers and hyacinth beans that remain a lush green during the summer and then explode into color when autumn arrives. Holly shrubs that stay green all year, and then bring just a hint of color as the snow begins to fall over them. Clusters of sea-grasses that evolve from simple green in the spring to fantastical earth-tones in the summer and somber auburns in the fall. I'll even support a few trees like myrtles that bloom in a variety of colors twice each year, and can be so easily controlled from growing too large because all it takes is a chainsaw to cut them down to a 4' stump each fall (and they just keep coming back every year in fuller bloom!). Save the tall, grand elms and sycamores for the edges of the square, but maybe include a few miniature apple, pear or cherry trees that will blossom and fruit, but never grow high enough to obscure our views of the twin Lady Liberties, distract us from the passing of time on the County Hall clock tower, or somber the rainbows of the Electric Tower as it flashes away the night.

For every leaf that changes color and falls to the ground, there should be another plant ready to burst into life with a newness of green or color!

While I really appreciate Mr. Gordon's vision for an unspecified re-greening of Niagara Square, this is truly an opportunity for a proper botanist to get involved. Replace the generic, unnamed and unspecified balls of green in his renderings with a variety, even a cacophony of native and exotic plant life that attracts and enhances (without obstructing views, of course) all twelve months of life in our city's center. For every plant that sheds its leaves or blossoms as the calendar proceeds, there should be another one to take its place in giving beauty and life to this square.

There was a comment earlier that our buildings and architecture are dead. That is SOOOO not even close to being true. Niagara Square is home to the only buildings that survived the burning in 1813. It is home to companies that grew up with the canal that fed our city and the world. Niagara Square was the front lawn of a man who moved on to the White House, and saw another of our boys take the nation's reigns not once, but twice moreover. Only fate and circumstance put it a mere weeping's earshot of the death of a third president, followed by the cheers and roars as we inaugurated a fourth! Even the rumbles of a modern traffic circle cannot overshadow a history like that. It always has a rumble... sometimes from horse-drawn sleighs, sometimes Segways, trolley cars, buses, automobiles, bicycles, even the audible bell of the MetroRail a few blocks away. It is home to the highpoint of our history during the 1901 Exposition. It seats the crown of our dominance during the early 20th century. It has a brand-new tenant for the 21st century. The Square shows the scars of our neglect. We can stand at its center and see our mistakes as easily as we see our triumphs. We can read the friezes of City Hall which show us a history that extends centuries before our city even existed. There are reminders of our bloodiest wars, and flags flying at equal mast to welcome our nearest neighbors and friends. There's even a grand old lady who has seen us through our highest and lowest points, made a name for herself on the Muppet Show, and faced down the wrecking ball to survive and bloom once again. At the center of this fullest of circles stands a monument that takes our lowest and most shameful moment and exhaults it high into the sky as if we never even touched the ground, let alone let ourselves sink into the mud! I almost want to find a quote from the Lion King about how it mirrors our city's circle of life. As we enter a new and greener epoch, this really is an opportunity to show that Buffalo lives, at its very heart, every day of every month of every season. Years don't even seem to matter here. It lives. It changes. It transforms. But Niagara Square never truly dies, nor even sleeps. The space always calls out for its favorite two-footed friends. We dodge traffic and ill-placed traffic lights like a live-action video game of Frogger to get to her. The souls luckiest enough to arrive at her center are greeted by marble lions and turtles more worn by the rain than by affectionate hands. (I often wonder if I am alone in having a 'favorite' lion)

This Square's history is so cyclical, its edges are so boundless... just like the people of Buffalo, its greens and foliage should exist in unending varieties of form. Use the greenery that /enhances/ the beautiful views, not the ones that block them! Niagara Square is a vivid sweep of uninterrupted territory, capable of supporting a multitude of small, personal and precious moments. But it is also a powerhouse of expansiveness, it is a million small moments in time that occasionally come together to sear the city together as a unified whole. It is a (no, it is *THE*) very soul of our city.

See these dark areas? Those are trees:
http://x.indabuff.com/donut/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/buffalo911.jpg
Imagine these scenes from behind or under a canopy of leaves:
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http://ic2.pbase.com/t6/21/753921/4/86047995.2PYsPhO4.jpg
We lost 30-50% of our trees during the Arborgeddon of '06. Plant the timbers back where they're sorely missed. Save the Square for greenery that will survive any ice storm yet to come.

Oh, and for the front of the City Court Building: Sequoias. 300' tall redwood sequoias transplanted from Oregon. I'm all for the circle of life, but I'm hoping that maybe my great-great-great grandkids can be open-minded enough to find /some/ beauty in that piece of crap... Who knows, maybe they will. I just hope they find a way to appreciate its place in our never-ending circle of a square.

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Deaner, that's the first time a BRO post ever brought a tear to my eye! Put that in bronze and plant it in niagara square for everyone to read! You just wrote the Statue of Liberty poem for Buffalo's own world class monument.

You talk a lot and type a lot, but once in a while you're long winded posts read like poetry for the forgotten. When your not being a crackpot haha, you write eulogies for places that are 99% dead and make them sound like they have always been more alive than gone. I would have asked for a forest of trees at Niagara square until you pointed all that out. Now I'm wondering if we could improve the place by cutting a few trees down! The candle light picture from 911 speaks even more profoundly than you do.

I reelly feel like I need to spend some time down there to soak this all in. Got a totally new perspective on the place now. Does anyone give tours of the square?

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I still favor trees in the square. The ones there now are a big inmprovement to the barren look previously. Big trees lining both sides of the road and both sides of the sidewalk would hardly detract from the ability to appreciate the architecture.

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I can't argue with gut feeling, just a logical response. After reading all the posts, this place went witout a single tree for 150 years? There are links to Trafalger in London, Zocalo in Mexico, and my own visits to Rome and Paris had LOTS of places that were basically barren of plants because there was so much else to see without a tree to block the sight. Okay, Buffalo can't match the Louvre or the Piaza Navona for architecture. Maybe we can and maybe we actually do better.

Buffalo already has some awesome park spaces. I'm not going to drive in, find a parking spot and sit under a tree downtown to feel like I'm in a park. But laFayette, court and Niagara is a bigger and better city space than anything I even saw in Europe. I can dig the effort to feel like I'm in a great city space. The only thing I've ever seen that was bigger was Mexico city, and that was an uncontrolled mess. Buffalo really is different in the world for having a city space of this size. We could turn it into another underused park like division street or really make it special like it used to be.

Lots of talk here about how we might lose the great views if we cover them with trees. I can enjoy the trees at Delaware park, or even my own back yard. I can't see these views from anywhere but Niagara Square, so why cover them up?

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Wow -- what a stand-up-and-cheer writeup! Totally agree with you on every point.

And Sequoias for City Court -- that is sheer genious!

If I had a million bucks, I'd hire you just to produce good ideas.

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Evergreens are more susceptible to the dangers of urban street living, especially road salt. An experienced URBAN landscape planner could advise appropriately. Agree they should be included.

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I move out of town in '94. I've been religiously following city progress and news since. I've come to one conclusion. Buffalo is the "artist's rendition" capital of the world.

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There's an original one folks...

Apparently you haven't followed planning and development proposals in other cities.

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I totally agree with most of this. Re-imagining Niagara Square is absolutely a great idea. In fact, last year I wrote that I felt that it was time to re-do Niagara Square, and also to make a pedestrian corridor down Court Street to Lafayette Square (as other comment writers have also mentioned).
Where I vehemently disagree is with the re-opening of the Statler Albatross Towers. That ugly old dilapidated building needs to come down ASAP, at any cost(I really hate that stupid building). I'm a preservationist, but I'm also a realist. Any funds that may be potentially mis-appropriated by Mayor Brown and Mark Croce should instead be put towards a new vision of Niagara Square. The land under the Statler Towers is perhaps the most valuable in Buffalo (in my opinion anyways). There will be so many potential uses for that land once it is cleared of the Statler Dinosaur. We need to quit throwing good money after bad buildings. Also, I would suggest an investigation by the Buffalo News on the 5 million dollar deal that went down between Mark Croce and Mayor Brown. I think that would prove to be very interesting indeed(can you say Impeachment?).

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From what I understand, the city is not giving Croce any money. They are just recommending the grant be given. The State Agency DASNY is providing the funds. And I'm probably beating a dead horse but the Statler is one of the reasons Niagara Square and Downtown are so grand. Furthermore, it will cost far less to re-open the Statler and get business going then it will to demolish it.

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Yea, you know I wrote that comment after I had just listened to a local radio host who was seething for two hours at the possiblility of 5 million dollars of taxpayer (state or city) money going into the Statler rehab. I personally still think that the Statler is too huge and too far gone to ever be restored in a economically feasible way. And in the future, when that high- profile restoration project has failed miserably, the Statler will be used as an example by every anti-preservationist of why restoring old buildings in Buffalo using government funding is a bad idea and a waste of money. I believe that the thing that most separates preservationists from non-preservationists (i.e. the majority) is that preservationists have an "ideal" vision of the future that others lack. This lack of vision by the vast majority will be a great detriment to the future of Buffalo. That's why I support and respect all the preservationists in this city who are continually striving to make the present and future Buffalo a special and desireable place to live. Having said all that, I will now shut up about the Statler and never speak of it again. I have actually tried to delete my previous post written on Sep. 8th, but I don't know how to do that.

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You seem to spend a lot of time on these boards bashing the Statler (while supporting a move of St. Gerard's closer into the city center). What gives? Why the vendetta?

And, further, the building IS coming back so why waste the energy on demo talk? Frankly, you would have to be somewhat blind not to see why that buildings represents something worth saving.

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Niagara Square could certainly be improved, the square is one of the most attractive public spaces in the country. We tend to take if for granted but whenever I bring visitors to downtown they are always impressed, especially the view from Court Street.

Niagara Square was the site of the hanging of the Thayer brothers in 1825. The three brothers were convicted of the murder of John Love after Love attempted to collect a debt. The gallows were sited at the present day entrance to City Hall and the event brought an estimated 20 to 30 thousand people into the city.

Legend is that the great chief Red Jacket was observed walking away from the event and when asked why he wasn't going to watch he replied "Fools enough there already, battle is the place to see men die".

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i can see it now: public executions as a proven bring-people-downtown strategy! better than taste of buffalo!

kidding, just kidding!

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Think of the spinoff potential, food, beer, commemorative items, etc. Maybe Texas Governor Rick "the king of executions" Perry could come to town to get this off the ground. In the Republican debate the other night nothing got that morbid crowd more excited than when Perry was asked about his record breaking number of executions. It looks like old Red Jacket had more basic decency than all of the members of that audience combined.

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The is such great news for this great city. I lobe everything about Buffalo, we can do no wrong. Feel the vibration, feel it, feel it.

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"The is such great news"? "I lobe everything about Buffalo"?

That unmistakable wordsmithing can only mean Karl has got out of work early and is 5 IPAs deep @ Coles.

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That is truly funny. Meet me for one, support the local economy, dog.

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While I'm not a fan of using public money for the Statler, I know Mr. Croce is a professional
and he knows how to restore a building. Mayor Brown is doing some great work in a very difficult job.
I would also like to commend all the preservationists in Buffalo. They are doing an amazing job with
little thanks other than the satisfaction of preserving some truly valuable architecture. My hat's off to all. of you. Fight on!

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I wish BRO would make it easy to get updates on the status of articles. I would love to know if anything happened with this idea. It's just too obvious to not pursue. Update please!

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