SoHo Burger Bar: Designed to taste good
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Leave a commentThis place does bring people during the day time too! It's no longer a dead corner anymore!!!! I would luv to see retail next. The old La Luna and Third Room spaces would be perfect for a men's, and ladies apparel stores...just a thought!
Wasn't there a men's store downtown several years ago that was a huge flop?
Yes, a few YEARS ago on Delaware @ Tupper. Sort of out the way from the majority of downtown workers and visitors. Chippewa Street has the potential to be a great mix of not just trendy restaurants, but trendy retail too. We got the people, let's give them what they want and been waiting for. Why not bring that vibe that Elmwood and expand it right into our downtown? Think about it!
Agreed, Chippewa has been catering to a (pretty tacky) party crowd for too long. Frankly, even those people have grown tired of the Scene.
Time to up everyone's game and make it a (more) upmarket and substantive place to go. Bring in some art and entertainment venues to complement the theater district.
Goes back to needing residential. Think of the types that will be living in the Corn Exchange. Definitely a crowd to cater to there. All the talk about getting retail and grocery stores and all that, but what it all comes down to is having people to service. The residential needs to come first. I've been saying it for so long, there needs to be more ownership options downtown for residential there to really take off. And not Avant-like, starting at 300k. There needs to be ownership residential options in the 100k-200k range.
I think this is the first comment that you have ever wrote that I agree with. Residential is the key to Chippewa, Canalside, Theater district, etc. The people will dictate what goes where. You cant put trendy shops in a non trendy area where no one has any money. But if you put a bunch of people with money in an area, bam shops will show up out of the blue.
It would be an even bigger plus if the Theater District Association took an effort to make the district like an actual THEATER DISTRICT with daily entertainment, did as much work as the Erie Canal Harbor Association is doing to make that area exciting on a daily bases.....Street performers, worked with all building owners and got a plan to lure the right retail and restaurants in (theme restaurants, singing waitresses/waiters, family friendly places, unique boutiques, etc, maby even a theatre museum of some kind or other attraction opened daily). Our current theater district is dead except when Sheas has a broadway show, even then the rest of the block remains pretty much empty.
You're talking about the Ultimate Mens Shops, which was at Delaware and Tupper. But there was another, Get Dressed, which was in the Belesario (formerly LL Berger Dept Store) on Main Street, next to the Hyatt. It was not at all out of the way for downtown and visitors.
Get Dressed was never a 'flop'. They actually did pretty well. It was the building they were located in that was the issue or so I heard. (Paladino owned btw.) And Get Dressed is RETURNING downtown in April inside the Lafayette.
How much faster can downtown crank out residential space folks. We have seen an explosion in loft space downtown, it is everywhere. Whitney Condos 100K by the way and selling oh so slow. Condos on Delaware and Bryant for 100-175K as well, go buy one.
Location. I'm not saying it needs to happen any faster. I think the pace is spot on. But for the most part, particularly the two options you list, I would say the housing is on the fringe of downtown. Residential needs to be throughout the core. Look, there's a billion ways to skin the cat. What I'm saying is residential needs to be the first thing put in throughout downtown, then the rest will come. And if there were better purchase options then housing would be stronger and the demand higher.
You're all so short-sighted. It's not about more lofts, even lofts that are $300k plus. It's got to be about bringing families back into the city.
AND make downtown more attractive by cleaning it up! Building owners who don't take care of thier buildings need to fix up or sell or go to jail. A downtown business association is needed to lure retailers and businesses to downtown. We currently don't have one (if we did they are not doing it correctly). A group that can stop future mistakes like putting a Parole Office/Drug Addiction/Housing Assistance and other programs on a first floor of a major commercial district from happening again. (That ruined MAIN STREET between Court and Mohawk Street where all you see are zombie like mentally ill and homeless bums all day and night harrasing everyone who walks by, I even caught two of them sleeping right on the sidewalk in front of the parole office yesterday evening at about 7pm).....THAT does not attract the right people downtown, it only scares them away!
I agree about getting the businesses to do a better job at cleaning up. One place I’ll give credit to is Bada Bing (though I hate their name!). They are outside every morning hosing down the sidewalk and picking up trash. I read in the Buff News a few weeks ago that the city was going to start repairing sidewalks and repave Chippewa which would be a huge help in terms of image. One big problem that still remains is people littering. Even though there are garbage cans every 100’ people seem to continue to throw garbage on the ground. I’d like to see some more enforcement on littering. Those small things will help the image of Chippewa and hopefully help attract a more respectable clientele.
As for residences and retail, there are probably more residences down here than most people realize. If someone took the first step and opened a retail clothing store I bet it would do well and hopefully spur a few more. However, it can’t be another women’s only boutique that sells five overpriced items. We need a proper “Gap” like store that has a large affordable selection for it to be sustainable and attract a regular client base. The reason I don’t shop in the city for clothes is because the five places that actually sell men’s clothing have a very small selection and are way too pricey for the quality. There are certainly storefronts that would accommodate such a place right around the Chip / Delaware area.
I'm not sure who the short-sighted individuals are you refer to, but my comment didn't differentiate one vs the other. Residential is residential. Families or yuppies. If you think families is the important front to battle, then perhaps you should argue the education bit and not the loft vs not-loft end of it.
Besides, I was kind of speaking with the understanding that this was about the downtown core of the City. There are probably more retail outlets downtown than families living there.
The restaurant looks great. Although, I had the burger and it was average at best. I'll definitely go back as other items besides the burgers sound and looked better. Best burger in town is at 911 Tavern in South Buffalo, best kept secret.
I'd have to argue that The Sterling Tavern on Hertel has the best burger in town but I'll give SoHo a shot next time I'm around downtown for lunch. Place looks great.
What really impressed me the most here was the floor. Who ever painted it did a great job. Also loved the fact they they use cotton towels for napkins. And the use of hose clamps as napkin rings is very clever. The food, well, just ok for the price. The fries I had here were really soggy and most were broken in half.
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Nice evolution. $12-$14 burgers take some getting used to. All in all a good step for Chippewa.