Canalside: Time to get the snowball rolling...
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Leave a commentDitch the Party in the Plaza before games. Do something with Canalside before home games. Heck, do something for away games.
It's been discussed a bunch of times but now is another opportunity to Light it up! The Elevator across from the Wharf, the Skyway, and other Seasonal lights would be great. LED make them fairly affordable (see GLF). The Little Rocks has just about the only light down there at night. Buffalo is the City of Light.
Extend Winterfest/Pond Hockey - it's a great event but could so easily be stretched out over a few weeks. Allow pick up Pond Hockey, weather permitting.
Halloween Haunted House
Harvest Market
Sled hill - there's already a slope utilized for the bands
Warming station - Hot Cider/Chocolate, heated tent
completely agree about the skyway being lit up, ive thought about that also...check out this bridge in miami illuminated. it looks better in person
Bonfires at night.
Hot cider.
Skating on the canal.
snowball fights in skivvies.
just kidding, that's a bidwell pkwy kind of thing.
seriously, though: snow sculpture contests.
There are so many things to do in the snow that are cheap and fun. Let's make the most of what has historically given Buffalo a bad name.
1. It's called the City of Light, um... let's build a kick-butt Christmas light display. Build an incredible spectacle from Thanksgiving through New Years, lighting up the skyway, boats, grainmills, and everything in between. Better yet, get all the major neighbourhoods to participate, encouraging suburban folks to go through the Elmwood village, Allentown, waterfront, etc... It could be a historical play on light, maybe not the modern day equivalent to Christmas lights?
2. Open an Ice-Bar, a bar made of ice specializing in mulled wines, warm apple ciders, etc...
3. Build a floating ice-skating rink
4. Host the World's Biggest Snowball Fight
5. Replace the current lawn with a heated outdoor area featuring bonfires, build a menu with only food you can cook on the fire
6. Host a Christmas market, similar to Union Square in NY
7. Snow fort competition
8. A snowman competition
9. An ice sculpture competition
10. Hold chili cook-off
11. Hold a soup cook-off
12. Hot Chocolate festival
13. Build an outdoor hot spring
14. Build an ice castle that kids can play in
15. Hold a charitable knitting competition, everyone knits a blanket, all go to charity
16. Polar bear dip
17. Christmas cookie bake-off
18. Sleigh rides
19. Broadcast Bills and Sabres games on the grain mills
20. Not sure what the stars are like in this area, but if they are easy to spot, hold an astrology night
I've often wondered about the projection thing on that grain elevator. Its a big blank canvass. I would expect you could even do movies on there, but can you imagine a bills or sabres game on that thing? That would be a HUGE draw.
What are you waiting for, make it happen.
They are not flat surfaces, it would never work.
yup and the one across the River from the Wharf would need at least a few coats of paint to make it reflective enough.
Like I've mentioned in other posts, projecting movies and such on the Elevators has been looked into but the main drawbacks are
1. Flat surface
2. Reflective enough
3. Projector Powerful enough - Indigo and Uniland don't have anything powerful enough, there are some available for an event but the things above need to get done to make it viable.
4. Where would the projector go? Kelly Island? This is possible to solve but would need General Mills most likely to grant permission.
Lake and Rail is the only flat Grain Elevator and with the Park across the street being built I have hope but don't really expect the project to go anywhere anytime soon for 'movies on mills'.
That's just addressing the projections on the Elevators, I do hope the Sabres do something outside and get a giant screen to show games. Remember the playoffs go until May/June.
Thought about that, but i think at that size the ripples wouldn't be to bad. Its also possible to possible get a large tarp made that could be draped on the side of the building.
I did some quick research, and it looks like the main building is 223' x 66', which i thought would be a bit rediculous for a projector size, but the transit drive in screens are about 100' x 70', so I feel like it wouldn't be to awful to find one that works. Of course, those are made for film reels, idk how it would work with live tv.
Honestly, I think it would be a cool idea to try anyways. How about during the summers having a free movie night at CanalSide, with one of those big blow up movie screens. I watched an episode of Cribs back in the Day, and Joey Fat-one from NSYNC (first NSYNC reference ever on BRO) had one in his driveway. I figure you could use that during the summer for a movie series, and then use it during the winter/playoff months for Hockey Games. Plus, Im sure they are not that expensive.
21. Friday smore bar! Every Friday, people can go to the waterfront, reserve a bonfire and have their own smores party.
22. Pre-game tailgates
There should be a temporary ice rink - A really friggin big one and it should host regular tie ins to theSabres in the form of an NHL Experince type thing. This is not such a hard thing to do. People building ice rinks in their backyards all the time. Start making strong connections to the things unique to this place.
I've been saying that all along, you should have seen (maybe you did) the kids playing street hockey in the pouring rain Sunday in front of the Arena. Wish the weather was better but it didn't stop most from having a great time.
Not to mention the Sabres have so much momentum Canalside should take full advantage.
Not to mention Terry Pegula could afford to install gold cobblestone streets, and diamond encrusted firepits.
I hope he's seriously considering something, he wants to attract free agents, it wouldn't hurt to help get rid of the 'ghost town' moniker.
If I was TPeg i would buy East Aurora a new Rink and repo the Winter Classic rink and build it on the old Aud site and have a Statue Row leading to the new Arena.
The drive-by lights display in Delaware park was always so impersonal. Sure you could stay warm inside the car, but you lost the touch of interacting with others. I remember as a kid, going up to the Festival of Lights in Niagara Falls, walking around, stopping into shops or the Wintergarden (sigh) to warm up. Ice skating around Lackey Plaza, the cheesy animated displays, the Festival of Trees.
Even Jamestown has the Ice Castle Festival, it used to be like a winter carnival.
CanalSide could be a great place to bring all that together. Bring out the AM&As style window displays to connect Canalside to Rotary Rink and people will make an event out of wandering Main Street again. Ditch the Delaware Park light display and set them up at Canalside for a year until a better collection can be put together for this location. Food trucks and hot cocoa. Nice centerpiece events like snow forts and castles and ice carving (even if we need to truck some of that snow in for pre-Christmas weather that never seems to cooperate with our festival schedule).
12 nationally televised games. Second only to Philly and Beantown. Take advantage.
Look at how successful the summer was. Except for cocaine night, is there really a bad idea? (Really it was a good idea, though)
The only thing I'd say is whatever programming is planned there should be an adverse weather plan to keep the train rollin'. Warming tent? Maybe give Clinton's Dish a way to continue in winter like the Anderson's in Tonawanda used to do. Curling? Chowder night.
When is DL&W gonna reenter the fray?
How about an area for curling. It's a niche sport, I've never tried it but I would love too. Same with a lot of my friends. You don't see this sport anywhere in the U.S. I don't know what the maintenance costs would be but I think a lot of people would really like to try this at least once. Rent the equipment for an hour at a time or have a tournament. I really think this would be something you dont see unless your in/from Canada.
I like the idea of curling. I think a lot of Americans were fascinated by curling after the last Winter Oympics in Canada. We could have clinics on how to play.
How about a bocciofila were people can play bocce. They used to have them when I was a kid near Delaware park area my grandfather used to play and I used to watch.
Curling is the Canadian version of bocce ball...
Contests are cool but just getting some artists and make a snow/ice garden would be a pretty simple and neat thing. people cans top down and watch the progress and it would be another cool thing at Winterfest.
I really think having more Ice Rinks is key. Maybe flood the cobblestone and have ice there? Check out www.canadascapital.gc.ca/skateway
We better get thinking quick, because we have had snow storms on dates less than 8 weeks from right now. The surprise storm was not that long ago and happened on Friday, October 13th; that's 59 days from today's date.
As I remember, the October 13 storm was a beyotch, but it was all but melted away on the 14th. Hard to plan ahead for that. But... from my time in Florida, every time a hurricane rolled over ended up turning into a hurricane party (board up the windows and crack open a bottle cuz nobody's going in to work tomorrow!)
How about a standing plan that anytime the mayor calls for a driving ban, everybody hop on the MetroRail and head down to Canalside for a snowball fight?!?!
It did take less than a week for that snow to melt, and just over a week for us to get power turned back on at our house. Then, just a few short weeks later, we had a white Thanksgiving that year.
one last suggestion
Bring back the Ice Maze!
Would it be animal cruelty to have horses out in the cold? I've often been fascinated by the opening chapter in "City of Light" and the thought that people used to regularly get around the city in horse-drawn sleighs.
Spring, summer and fall are filled with festivals and holiday celebrations. How about asking our ethnic communities to chip in on winter celebrations?
St Nicholas Day 12/6, Winter Solstice 12/21, Bodhi Day 12/8 (Buddist day of Enlightenment, nice for the lights themes), Chinese New Year, St Stephens Day 12/26, Epiphany - 3 Kings Day 1/6, Orthodox Christmas - Julian Calendar 1/7, Kwanzaa, Valentines Day 2/14, Diwali - Hindu Festival of Lights, Hanukkah, MLK Day, Halloween, Festivus (lols), Thanksgiving - Harvest Festival, 12 Days of Christmas (devote each day to a different ethnic group around the city). And there are probably a dozen other holidays that I don't even know about.
I remember the Sesquicentennial was on a pretty cold night, Maybe celebrate an annual 'Buffalo Day' on the city's anniversary. Heck, we could even have a bonfire to celebrate the 199th anniversary of the Burning of Buffalo on January 1st.
If we celebrated all there is to celebrate during the winter, maybe an enclosed warming station, fireside lodge or gathering hall could become a permanent fixture during the winter months to help house various activities.
I'd probably keep New Years at Roosevelt Square though.
How about a giant snow globe. Ours could have a giant Buffalo in it. Or like this one when they have actors/models in it or have it so you can go inside and have your picture taken.
I think the ice bar and bonfire ideas sound great. And maybe some food trucks like The Roaming Buffalo!
http://www.bryantpark.org/things-to-do/holiday_shops.html
A holiday shopping, eating and drinking village of temporary structures similar to Bryant Park. And yes the ice rink on the Aud Site. Bryant Park's rink is sponsored by Citi aka Citi Pond @ Bryant park. (First Niagara or M&T)All the other stuff too, Curling, Sleigh rides, ice sculptures, ice bar and castle.
Zamboni figure 8 demolition derby
hot chocolate, hot cider, hot coffee - anything warm to drink.
fall festivals
pumpkin carving stations where you can buy pumpkins, use patterns/knives, etc.
There are plenty of great ideas here; but the first idea should be to somehow get rid of the fences along main street near the arena..These are ugly and make it very uninviting. I know they serve a safety purpose but its ugly...
A large fountain is good with winter ice skating rink..Warming huts, ice wine festival, Outdoor ice bar and restaurant...
I agree with the Winter Market/Ice Rink idea, similar to Bryant Park in NY. Also, bring back The Festival of Lights from Niagara Falls would be amazing! I agree with the lights lining Main St from rotary down to Canalside.
For Halloween I'd like to see a make shift Fall famers/vendors Market. Also, a haunted house or hay maze would be an excellent idea down there.
The Buffalo Maritime Center is ready to start building an authentic replica of an 1840s Erie Canal packet boat. They've done the research, drawn the plans and hired a professional builder. All they need is a place to build. Would love to see them get started this winter.
1) Reach out to New Era and ICE (the maker of the game and from Clarence)to have a weekly Bubble Hockey tournament and then have the World Championship at Canal Side much like they had the tournament at the Convention Center during the World Juniors tournament.
2) Popular restaurant stands: I still want to see the Dinosaur BBQ locate here. Have a winter BBQ/tailgate so they can see how much we want them here. Mulberry Meatball stand. Maybe this can be a testing ground for restaurants to show them that there is enough traffic down there to invest in the area.
3) As someone else mentioned, Food Trucks. There really aren't any brick and mortar places in the area that can complain about stealing business. We can make this area like a Ralph Wilson parking lot for Sabres games (also mentioned before)
As much as I love the ice skating ideas, isn't that going to cut into the usage at Rotary Rink a bit? There should probably be some separation upfront between using Fountain Plaza for skating, and Canalside for hockey/curling/ice sports so nobody feels like their toes are getting stepped on and files a lawsuit.
In Finland, there is an ice hotel that they build every winter and it's a big hit. Famous designers decorate the different rooms.
We could do an ice bar (isn't there one in Ottawa?) A fully enclosed structure made of ice.
A few things we do in Chicago that I think would work great here:
-Every year in Daley Plaza, Chicago holds Christkindlmarket (a German tradition.) It's a winter holiday fest that includes merch vendors from Europe (xmas ornaments, beer steins, home decor, etc. )and a variety of food vendors. From potato pancakes, sausages and waffles (we look forward to them all year! I'll bet Ulrich's could fill the bill), hot chocolate and cider, to beer & spiced wine, etc. It's all held in tents and includes some heated tents to snack in.
-Navy Pier: As much as I loathed this place when living in Chicago, I get why all my friends who are parents love it. Mid-winter stuck inside with the kids is TOUGH. Navy Pier has a children's museum, restaurants, Shakespeare theater, shops, twice-weekly fireworks, and a variety of indoor and outdoor attractions. There's a reason why it's in the top ten most popular tourist destinations in the U.S.- the Falls are actually #8- wouldn't it be nice to have two big destinations in our backyard?
I realize we need fast and cheap right now, so why not use what is already popular in successful tourist areas but with a genuine Buffalo twist? Winter Shakespeare at the Canal? Fireworks twice a month in conjunction with Sabres games? (even a small show + some beer tents will = people, guaranteed. Mr. Pagula, certainly you could afford a few firework shows?) I'm sure we could lure some poutine carts here (ok, not Buffalo but certainly regional) in addition to our own hometown trucks like Lloyd- perhaps it'd be a nice bridge to next summer for these folks, or at least until city council gets their butts in gear with regards to rule making.
But the most important thing is attracting families. If you want the money from the suburbs funneling in, you have to give them something unique. We've seen how popular the adorable puppet stage is- why not more of these types of performances? What about the children's theater doing a performance there? Winter Carnival complete with games? There's really nothing kids like more than spending their parents money! Even something as simple as an area for kids to climb around- I can't tell you how much fun the kids in our family had last winter playing on the rocks beside Fountain Plaza and the slabs of ice at Powder Keg. We practically had to drag them away!
I can say this: bravo to everyone for this year's successful summer event schedule- I was there for three different events and everything from food and beer stands to security and port-a-johns was perfect! Great job!
Lex from Chicago
An indoor farmers market, that sells hot chocolate and mulled wine in winter and other goods during the summer months.
Why are there so many negative votes to a lot of these suggestions? Does that mean the voter isn't interested in that activity (while the commenter obviously would)? Or does that mean the voter thinks the commenter's suggestion is a waste of time/cash/space and should not even be considered?
I seriously doubt anybody is going to come up with some super-fantabulous idea that is going to draw the entire population all at once. But if Canalside puts on a few separate activities that each draw separate dozens or hundreds of people at a time, I'd call that a success.
Heck, if 99% of the city stays home next Tuesday, while 1% shows up at an event, that's still a 500+ person turnout. Better than 0% because nothing was planned and nobody showed up...
Oops. Embarrassed. 1% is 2,500+ not 500+. 10,000+ if it draws folks from the suburbs too.
If just half a percent -or even a quarter of a percent- are interested enough in an event to come and check it out, that's still a viable number to make the event a success (depending on the amount invested to make it happen). Bottom line, if the investment cost is little or nothing, the ECHDC should not dis-count the least popular suggestions (including the crazy-sounding ones) while it continues to build up momentum for bigger winter activities.
Most have listed fun ways to spend the excess income which people use to pay for entertainment. Am I wrong to think that this spending will go here, instead of where it is spent now? Will the jobs generated at the 'canal' be at the expense of jobs elsewhere? Will they pay more than the minimum wage, which is impossible to live upon?
Can entertaining "events", designed to attract Suburban people (instead of most City residents) supplant day-to-day earning, retailing, and industry? No. Unless we can attract hordes of tourists from outside Erie County, we're only shuffling the same local dollar bills. Free events? - The T.I.T.S. freebie concerts have resulted in the trampling of Lafayette Square into mud; meanwhile, 80% of all downtown retail jobs disappeared while this "event" has gone on. Wow. Or is that a success? You tell me.
Rebrand the area to become Buffalo's waterfront that includes certain Canalside attractions.
Connect the waterfront to the rest of the parks with attractive, and safe, walking and bike paths that will bring you all the way to the Peace Bridge and beyond. This can be done over existing streets and rights of way.
Remove the fences that limit entry to the area.
Connect the waterfront to HSBC Arena and light up the trees and pillars to make it a nice place to walk in the spring and fall. Make this a place where visitors and residents will want to go before an event.
Welcome street vendors into the area under the skyway. Let visitors buy a bag of warm peanuts, a hot dog, popcorn, drinks, beer, or what have you while they stroll along the waterfront before a game or concert.
Build on the ideas so visitors leave earlier for events downtown. Bring in musicians and other performers paid for by the city or private funds.
Clean the streets and sidewalks.
Open a metro stop closer to the side of the Arena that opens to a walkway towards the waterfront. Visitors can get off at the old Aud site and walk across the Webster parking lot, or they can get off at the Waterfront and visit their before heading inside.
Open a beer tent under the Skyway for select games and have a "Party under the Pillars" of the Skyway.
Open the upstairs of the DLW terminal for parties during the colder months, and move the action down there when fall turns to winter.
Move the autograph line from the back of the Arena to the waterfront. Let the players drive up Main Street and stop for their adoring fans instead of meeting them in back of the Arena. Hold a few fan events where players meet the fans at the waterfront or in the HSBC Plaza. Do the same with Monster Truck night or WWF night.
Do something with the old Aud site. Even if it is just planted grass. Open it as a sledding hill in the winter.
All of the above is utter nonsense. Every penny spent around the 'canal side' will be at the expense of established businesses. This is nearly the poorest city in America, so this talk about restaurants where one meal will cost enough to buy a week's worth of groceries is grotesque.
Between the 2000 and 2010 Census counts, our population dropped by over 10% AND our per-capita income dropped by 10% when inflation is considered. Fewer people, less money. Opening new hot dog stands is hardly Progress.
My 'entertainment' money now goes to pay utilities. Did you get your latest water bill, with the 30+% increase? $160 per quarter is my new charge, after cutting back water use to the bare minimum. Water is now more expensive than my electricity bill. But we have to support all the lazy slobs on the Water Authority's payroll, so I shouldn't complain - gotta keep those suburban frauds in their easy 'jobs'.
Maybe you should check for leaks...$160 a quarter for a water bill? Where? I've been down to Canal Side just about every weekend and you have people down there from out of state and from out of this country..and I'm not just saying Canada. I don't think it is just a shift of dollars. And even if it was just Canada they are spending their dollars here and staying longer because there are things to do. Plus most of this money is seed money from NYPA which should have been money invested in our area to begin with instead of going down state.
Just saying...get out of that mindset....Baltimore had a pretty bad reputation before they did their waterfront and now you hardly hear of anyone talking negative about them.
If the Canal Side becomes a winter destination as well as it has been for the summer how can you complain about that?
I have no leaks, you idiot. The Water Authority raised rates by over 35%. You must not live in Buffalo.
"Plus most of this money is seed money from NYPA" - that money comes from every monthly electric bill in Western New York, and always will.
How about an ice replica of a Bass Pro Shop that people could whack with a sledge hammer for a dollar a swing?
The thoughtful suggestions from JnnTO, JM and Sho'nuff seem to be a good starting place.
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I wish to see a large water-fountain. Maybe a permanent stage below the Skyway.