City July 8, 2011 12:00 AM

Save St. Adalbert Basilica Campaign Announced

Save St. Adalbert Basilica Campaign Announced

Enduring a four year battle to keep their beloved Basilica open, parishioners and friends of St. Adalbert Basilica on Stanislaus Street in the Broadway/Fillmore neighborhood announced the kick off of a new campaign in the ongoing efforts to keep the Basilica open for weekly worship services.

In January 2011, announcement was made that the Vatican found in the parish's favor, declaring St. Adalbert Basilica could not be closed, thus forcing the Bishop to keep it open as a place of worship even if the corporations of St. Adalbert and St. John Kanty parishes were merged. However, the Bishop has steadfastly refused to follow the spirit of that ruling, declaring that only special occasion liturgies such as weddings and funerals will occur at the Basilica site once the 125th Anniversary celebration takes place September 18, 2011, thus necessitating the Appeal Committee sending another letter to the Vatican seeking clarification of its ruling.

The Vatican response to that request has been received and the case ultimately reviewed by our canon lawyer and a civil attorney. In the Vatican's response, it reiterated its previous finding that St. Adalbert Basilica must remain a place of worship accessible to the faithful. It further indicated that details such as number of Masses allowed are to be worked out at the local level.

DSCN0889.jpg"The Vatican's ruling has saved our Basilica as a place of worship and has left it to the local parish and Diocese to implement the decision," said Ronald Suchocki of the Save St. Adalbert Appeal Committee.  "We will have to keep up the Basilica; water, heat, maintenance, will all have to be attended to just as they are now. So what purpose does it serve to continue to spend time, effort and money on all of that, but not allow a simple turn of a key in the door to let the faithful come in and worship in this beautiful Basilica?"

Suchocki explained that the Diocese's refrain of "lack of personnel" cannot be cited as the reason since retired priests have routinely said mass at the Basilica since its pastor was given two additional churches. "We have monthly rental income, and the parishioners and friends of St. Adalbert Basilica take care of all the day to day needs of the parish," Suchocki continued. "The Diocese has no reason to stop Masses in light of the Vatican's ruling. We hope the Bishop is not punishing the good people of St. Adalbert for appealing their case to the Vatican or that there is not a secret Diocesan agenda for alternate uses or ownership of the Basilica. One would hope that vindictiveness is not a part of the equation that led the Bishop to such a decision in the first place."

"Since we have been rebuffed before by the Bishop when attempts at private dialog were made, the Appeal Committee, on behalf of the parishioners and friends of St. Adalbert Basilica, made the decision to 'work it out' in a more public setting" Suchocki continued. "Thus today, we formally announce the 'WHAT WOULD JESUS DO?' campaign. This Bishop has made it very clear to us that it is not a 'matter of faith or evangelization', it is a 'matter of finance' (his words, not ours!), so we needed a way to refocus him on what truly matters: tending and feeding the flock."

The Appeal Committee is asking everyone to get involved in this campaign. Write letters or send emails asking the Bishop "WHAT WOULD JESUS DO"? Put signs in the windows of your homes and cars and on your lawns. Why should the Bishop have a place of worship and be at peace when all of those whose churches have been closed or whose churches he is trying to close do not have a "place of peace and worship". Visit the website:  www.saintadalbertbasilica.org or Facebook page for details regarding the campaign.  Revelations regarding the lengths to which the diocese went to try and close the Basilica will also be revealed there soon.

"Aristotle said 'What it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do'," Suchocki concluded. "So we ask the Bishop, how will you use your power? Every time he has the privilege of saying Mass and being sustained by the Eucharist, we want him to remember the flock's query: WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? We are confident that if he truly listens to the answer, weekly Masses at St. Adalbert Basilica will continue for another 125 years."

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WWJD? Not sure that's the greatest tagline I've ever heard. But still, owning a pointy hat doesn't give a person license to be a bad landlord or an excuse to demolish by neglect.

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What would Jesus do? Only those who are practicing Christians would know for sure. The rest have stopped celebrating mass, have stopped giving to the church, and have in many ways contributed to the loss of the church as a focal point of the neighborhood.

If enough people stop shopping at a store, that store will close. If people stop frequenting a restaurant, then that restaurant will close. The same is true for the church. If enough parishoners stop attending mass and contributing to the upkeep of the church, then the church will close.

There are many reasons that people choose to leave the church, most very valid to the individual. Just like anything else, making one decision can lead to negative outcomes for someone, or something, else. In one case, saving money during the recession has resulted in many stores and restaurants struggling to make ends meet. In this case, the lack of parishoners, local residents, and contributors have resulted in the church struggling to keep so many parishes open.

BTW, this isn't limited to Buffalo. Here is an article about a church in Chicago that was closed and is being dismantled and moved. http://blog.beliefnet.com/deaconsbench/2010/09/a-city-church-moves-to-the-suburbs-brick-by-brick.html

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There are many people who have their weddings in the churches in the city because of the beautiful architecture of these old churches...but a bigger problem is that these people will not drive into the city to go to church in order to use and save these historic churches.

We cant have cheap cafeteria/auditorium style churches in the suburbs and have historic urban churches being sold, neglected and demolished.

Its not just the enemies of the church waging their war against religion, or those christians who dont go to church but its also those who do but choose to go to their neighborhood suburban church.

You make like the convenience of your suburban church but its plastic...these historic churches were built from the nickels and dimes or generations of Buffalonian and the skilled immigrants who came to this country and wanted our nation to rival if not surpass the monuments of their native land.

This is what each of us is selling, neglecting and demolishing.

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love your observation that these churches are good enough to be wedding eye candy but not good enough to attend on a weekly basis. no doubt these couples think they're bestowing a huge favor on a needy parish, and maybe wedding services do bring in revenues that the church wouldn't otherwise earn. not being in the wedding or church business, i wouldn't know.

but most urban parishes probably demand more from their parishioners than merely sitting through mass once in a while. adalbert's offers all kinds of social services for its needy neighborhood, and as the resident atheist, i wholeheartedly admire them for it.

all that christian devotion to the poor is probably not what susie & sean suburbanite want from their religion.

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@Grad94 As a resident atheist, you wholeheartedly have no idea what Sean and Susie suburbanite give to special collections for the poor in the city. If you attended church anywhere you might understand how the local collections and special collections work. As a resident atheist, you are talking out of your smug little ass.

Who the hell are you to judge someone for attending church wherever they want? You turn up your nose at them with disdain because you are an 'atheist'.

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U mad? Why single out grad's beliefs? Couldn't he say something similar about the resident moralists or bible thumpers?

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Haha! Perfect response. "u mad? y u mad, bro?"

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I could be wrong, but my understanding of Christianity was that the truly righteous life was not about simply giving some money to the poor every now and then, but rather living your life as a servant to the "least among you." Whether you live in a "city" or a "suburb" is completely irrelevant to this distinction. Either way I wouldn't want to be the guy who argues, "I put in $20 bucks last week, so my job is done." Go wash some feet; go feed some hungry; go clothe some naked - come with a better argument than, "I gave at the office" if you want to have piety contest.

But I reiterate: I could be wrong - there are many different interpretations of Christianity.

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Reflip - My congregation spends one night per month at the City Mission, one night or weekend day per month at St. Lukes, one day volunteering with Haven House, and one day volunteering with either Compass House, Ronald McDonald House, Kevin Guest House, or some other charity in the city. We typically have 20 - 30 parishioners attend these events. We also hold a special collection each month that goes to support these groups as well as St. Vincent DePaul's, Catholic Charities, and local ministries in the city.

Last year our small parish raised $142,402.24 for special collections, not including the Catholic Charities appeal.

We put our money and our time behind helping the least fortunate among us. We have fed the hungry, clothed the poor, and nursed the sick, as do most congregations throughout the local area. I don't know the figures, but I am sure that many congregations give far more money that our does.

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overreact much?

i complimented st. adalbert's sense of mission and i expanded on your insight about those who want it only for wedding scenery. if my username was -iluvjesus- you'd upvote me.

but own up to atheism and people freak out, as though you advocate cannibalism and stealing candy from babies.

i adore buffalo's old churches and i strongly resent that they are being treated as disposable. it really frosts me that st. gerards could be shipped to atlanta. i appreciate theological ideas (big fan of rev. drew), because i like learning how others think through life's big questions.

nevertheless, i've concluded that there are no good reasons to believe that there a guy in the sky stage-managing the universe. you've probably concluded that there are no good reasons to believe that any of the greek, roman, norse, germanic, chinese, or egyptian gods are stage-managing the universe. theologically, we have more in common than you think.

so please consider this word instead: non-theist.

let's say you are a non-grandparent, a non-disabled person, a non-canadian, a non-accountant, a non-jogger, a non-mail carrier, a non-farmer, a non-musician, a non-buddhist, a non-veteran, a non-child, a non-pennsylvanian, and i could go on forever.

does that mean that you oppose, disdain, and agitate against those who are? of course not. "nontheist" does not automatically mean "disdainful" any more than "christian" automatically means "humble."

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Unfortunately what everyone seems to forget are the facts. The Polish & German legions that built these cathedrals are all but a memory. The newer population, including many of the bloggers on this website, I guarantee are more slighted to the Agnostic/Atheist religious background. The truth is many people do NOT attend Sunday mass anymore, even in the suburbs. Except for holidays, the pughs are barren.

I do not agree with the local diocese's decisions, however they are based in truth. The population, along with the religious population, specifically the Catholics, has dwindled.

To keep it open as a church also puts Corpus Christi, St John Vianney,and St. Stans at risk due to the almost non-existent Catholic population on the East Side. The East Side, which is predominantly Black, normally are of the Baptist/Episcopal congregation and/or attend smaller storefront "churches". The African refugees who are more concentrated on the West Side generally are of the Roman Catholic faith.

So what do we do with this building of faith? Mothball it as best we can. Not allow a Transfiguration to occur here. Walking into Transfiguration Church is like walking into a German/French church during WWII after a bombing campaign.

The Diocese and further more the Catholic church should be blamed more than they are. They do NOT allow these churches to be churches again (some faith nonsense), apartments, restaurants,etc; of course this as the Bishop lives in his palatial palace on Oakland Place.

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@irishmedic - I agree with a lot of what you say, however there are a lot of ex-RC churches that have been sold to other (non-RC) congregations for re-use as a church of a different flavor. I believe apartments are an acceptable re-use, but yes, there are deed restrictions on a sale prohibiting them from being used as a bar, restaurant, etc.

I am not sure who is to "blame" for the church closures. With the general decline in population, coupled with a more pronounced decline in church attendance among those still living in the WNY area, closures are inevitable. These were beautiful buildings, but the million dollar question is "what to do with them" when there isn't a congregation able or willing to use them as a site of worship, due to lack of attendance, resources or interest? Given the age and cavernous size of many of these buildings, other adaptive reuses are also limited (and very expensive). It is very sad; many of these buildings are testaments to the immigrant populations who built the WNY area.

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First let me point out that Christianity and Catholicism are not always the same thing. Being a Catholic myself, I am often dismayed by the restrictions placed by the RC church that almost seem to ensure dwindling congregations in modern times. Adherence to tradition can be a noble thing, but refusing to adapt to change seems to have done more to drive people away instead of spreading the basic message.

Some RC churches have found new life with other faiths, but it saddens me that the diocese would rather see these buildings torn down or shuttered until they fall down instead of allowing them to be reused for other purposes. New St Joe's, St Barbara's, St Gerard's... gone. Bryant Parish, Babeville... still there. I can't think of any major non-RC churches that have willfully gone to the wrecking ball, yet the RC Diocese seems to be gleefully ignoring the wishes of even the Vatican to threaten its own properties.

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deaner>"the diocese would rather see these buildings torn down or shuttered until they fall down instead of allowing them to be reused for other purposes"

Actually, their restrictions sound very few according to the link below.
"buyers sign covenants restricting use of the buildings for the next 50 years. They are not allowed to use the property as an abortion or family planning clinic, fortune-telling establishment, charter school, unsanctioned Catholic church, or as a nightclub, bar or restaurant that serves alcohol."

I'd doubt allowing bars/restaurants would save more church buildings anyway. It's a very cost competitive industry. There's many vacant buildings in Buffalo that are more suitable for bars/restaurants than are old big RC churches.

That link says they've allowed religious uses by Muslims, Buddhists, and other Christians. They've also allowed residential. So irishmedic's comment looks very wrong to claim "They do NOT allow these churches to be churches again (some faith nonsense), apartments"

The Buffalo Diocese success rate of finding reuse is complimented for being unusually good compared to other places.

http://www.poua.org/news/National-Catholic-Reporter.pdf
"...Beginning in May, Charlesworth’s Monogram Shoppe will be housed in the former St. Mary’s Church in Little Valley, N.Y. ....
Elsewhere in the Buffalo diocese, the former St. Frances Cabrini Church in Collins Center, N.Y. ... now houses a state-of-the-art audio and video recording studio, and a vibrant ministry called Quiet Waters brings in local Catholic young people and adults for concerts and summer camps, live theater based on rosary meditations, homeschooling conferences and other events.
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The two former churches are among 75 closed in recent years by the Buffalo diocese and sold to a wide variety of buyers.
As dioceses around the country consolidate parishes, hundreds of churches, rectories, schools and church halls are being quietly sold -- although most have not been as successful at it as the Buffalo diocese.
... Since March 2006, the diocese has sold 40 properties, raising $5 million for the parishes that had been responsible for the upkeep of the closed buildings.
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More than a third of the properties have been sold to other religious organizations, including two that became Buddhist meditation centers and one that is now a mosque, weekend school, Muslim prayer hall and community center.
... Other former church properties in the Buffalo diocese are being used as a religious arts museum, an antique store, an artist retreat facility, office space, social services centers and private residences."

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