City June 6, 2011 9:52 AM

Why didn't "THEY" do something?

Why didn’t “THEY” do something?
One of the most popular complaints thrown about by the pro demo crowd is that the preservationist community (aka obstructionists) only show up at the last minute to try and stop demolitions of historic buildings with law suits, obstruction, and protests while never planning ahead, never being proactive in advance of a demolition emergency, and never putting any of their own skin in the game.  I admit to having fallen into this line of thinking as well in the past.  No longer though.  There is too much evidence to the contrary.

Buffalo has a strong history of preservationists taking the long view and acting early to save valuable and irreplaceable architectural heritage. The Guaranty Building, for example,  was saved almost single handedly by John Randal who moved from Chicago to Buffalo with the explicit purpose of saving the building years before demolition was a serious consideration. Even so, the building came close to being destroyed before he rallied the community and even a US senator to help save the building.  Organized groups of average citizens have made major positive impacts on efforts to save Buffalo's urban heritage from Shea's Buffalo Theater, to a row of extravagant mansions on Delaware Avenue, to today's growing success in saving the Central Terminal inch by inch to name just a few. 

Saver-Buffalo-NY.jpgKleinhans Community Preservation activist Chris Brown relayed an amazing story to me about his efforts to save a vacant fire damaged house in the West Allentown area.  He noted quite offhandedly that he once climbed its steep roof to the peek during a wind driven rain storm to nail down a temporary tarp covering a hole.  The house is now gorgeously restored and contributes immensely to the neighborhood.

Not too long ago I got a glimpse of the Preservation Buffalo Niagara (PBN) task planning matrix.  I was amazed at the number and scope of  initiatives they were involved in.  Just one example of this is in recent efforts to save the Erie Canal era blacksmith shop buildings. It was PBN that arranged to have an independent engineer provide the report that 118-120 is a sound building;  it was PBN that requested the letter from the State Historic Preservation Office that confirmed that these structures are eligible for the National Register of Historic Places; and it was PBN that submitted to Housing Court an architectural historian's statement on the architectural and historic importance of these buildings.  PBN was only founded in 2008 and very quickly garnered foundation, public, and membership support to become Buffalo's biggest preservation organization, though a professional staff of three can hardly be called big.

With so much to do in Buffalo, can any organization meet our expectations?  The Buffalo preservation community is not guilty of waiting for demo orders.  If anything, the broader preservation community in Western New York is guilty of being too humble in that they rarely trumpet the many, many things they are doing behind the scenes. Sure they have tours and special events.  Their recent awards presentation attracted an audience of 450 people and somewhat over 100 people attended the Neighborhoods Matter seminar a few weeks ago at the Central Terminal. In recognition of Buffalo's efforts in preservation and its growing number of major preservation successes The National Trust for Historic Preservation will be holding its annual conference in Buffalo this fall.  This is no small thing.

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To put an exclamation point on what the preservation community is doing in Buffalo behind the scenes, with permission, I have excerpted a portion of PBN executive director Henry McCartney's current column in the organization newsletter.

Two Weeks in April

As I sat down on April 25th to think about this column, I quickly realized that PBN's last two weeks (April 9-23) could illustrate our wide variety of activities.  During these 14 days, staff, trustees, docents and volunteers  * co-sponsored with state colleagues well-attended workshops on tax credits for rehabilitation of historic properties * distributed to the public and key sites our just printed Buffalo Tours brochure * toured the Statler with staff of the Preservation League to explore ideas for League assistance * met with State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) staff about potential new historic districts in Buffalo * provided advice to Niagara Falls citizens and officials concerned about the fate of an historic building at the Deveaux Woods State Park * continued planning to honor outstanding preservationists via our Awards Luncheon * gave a talk on the future of preservation in Buffalo * met about the Delaware Neighborhood Tour of Homes (June 25) and the architectural scavenger hunt (Sept 17) * helped the new Buffalo Neighborhood Alliance organize the May 21st Spring Neighborhood Preservation Forum * joined neighborhood leaders in their series of tours of each others neighborhoods (Hamlin Park on 4/9 and Linwood on 4/23) * congratulated the new owners of a 'homestead' house in Hamlin Park * briefed National Trust staff on locations for a pre-National Preservation Conference Tour * worked on conference sessions and upcoming 'dry runs' *publicized conference scholarships for New York residents that PBN will be administering, * participated with our state and national preservation colleagues in a forum on the Peace Bridge, * and much more. ...

Advocacy will remain vitally important for PBN, but it is only a part of what PBN must do to strengthen Buffalo's preservation movement.  We must keep involving a wide array of people and agencies, we must make people aware of tools and resources to improve older buildings, we must establish a preservation can-do spirit throughout the Buffalo region and we must move forward in a realistic manner.  I believe these two weeks in April showed we are doing so.

 
Henry McCartney
Executive Director
 
This last sentence by Henry is so important.  If you are asking 'what are "THEY" doing', you should know that "THEY" are not some anointed power brokers with special powers to save buildings. "THEY are just normal people who care about their city and want to stop the short sighted destruction of valuable and irreplaceable historic heritage in Buffalo.  If you are complaining that "THEY" do not do enough you should get involved and give "THEM" a hand.  PBN and the preservation effort as a whole will welcome your involvement.

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Preservation isn't just about the big saves, there are many more examples of small efforts in just about every neighborhood in the city. Many of these projects are under the radar and rarely get any exposure in the media. These preservationists have "skin in the game" and quietly plug away at homes and buildings that others may not appreciate. We neeed to value these individual efforts and respect those that are willing to invest their time, energy, and dollars into making this city a better place.

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Just because someone is against one extreme point of view doesn't mean they fully embrace the opposite extreme. For example, just because someone speaks out and says that all buildings should not or cannot be saved, doesn't mean that they advocate for the destruction of everything. This is what you are insinuating when you say "pro-demo crowd".

The term "obstructionist" is not typically used in reference to proactive preservation, as you describe above. It is generally used when a group or individual uses preservation as a tactic for stopping development that they do not agree with for a variety of philosophical or ideological reasons. A good example is the HO Oats Grain Elevator, the preservation of the elevator was supported by the anti-gambling zealots and not the preservationists. Granted, the preservationists may have the best interest of the community in mind, but they used preservation as a tool to leverage a separate agenda.

There is a tremendous amount of great preservation work being done throughout the region. From single family homes to large buildings. Maybe the task of preserving all that needs to be preserved is just too big for PBN. After all, the majority of buildings that have been restored instead of demolished have been done by individuals who are not affiliated with PBN. So the "They" that you mention is actually just about every homeowner and property owner in the city that is actively working on repairing and renovating their properties. The others are not necessarily "pro demolition" as you infer, they may have been a wannabe preservationist who got in over their head (like the woman who owned the atrium building on Genesee Street).

This isn't an "us versus them" issue, there are thousands of shades of gray that fall between obstructionist and demolition(ist). It might be beneficial to seek out those shades instead of alienating them by lumping them in at one extreme.

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Good post Mike, I couldnt agree more!

replied to Mike Duff
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So being against the casino makes one a "zealot"? sounds like an "extreme point of view" to me.

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By zealous I meant enthusiastic and diligent, not in the Judaic sense of the word. I wanted to convey someone who was more enthusiastic than someone who was just supporting the cause. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

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OK, but you said "zealot" (an excessively zealous person) not zealous (intense, ardor or eagerness). Just pointing out how easy it is for any of us to miss the shades of gray and see in black and white.

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I explained what I meant to say. I did not pull out a dictionary or thesaurus to look up the meaning, nor did I expect anyone to scrutinize every word that I wrote. It is just a comment on an internet blog, sorry if you took it as a personal affront to your delicate sensibilities.

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Nothing personal, I don't have "delicate sensibilities", not something that would work here in Black Rock. I wasn't picking on you, you made some good points but also brought your own bias into the discussion. Hard to claim gray when we all got our opinions.

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Feels good to read something from someone with a respectable point-of-view and an intellect that is actually beneficial to the area.

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Zealot was a poor word to descibe the anti-casino coven. Actually a more appropriate word would be neo-Facists. New Buffalo slogan. Keep your nose out of my wallet. Other than that a superb commentary.

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Mike D's 1st paragraph is a very well reasoned response to Steel's consistent childish black-&-white characterizing of others as 'pro demo'.

To believe that some non-landmarked, non-historic old buildings shouldn't be legally required by the government to be kept standing indefinitely against their owners' judgment or desired alternative land uses isn't at all the same as advocating that demo should always occur whenever possible. Not even close.

If a short label is needed at all, 'pro choice' sounds far more honest and accurate.

About the casino, no doubt there's shades of gray and diversity in how opposed some people are. However, the lawn sign campaign a few years ago had the slogan "We said No Casino in Erie County". How is that wording not an extremist demand? The group who displayed those signs was saying there shouldn't be even one spot in the entire county for adults to legally casino-gamble in?

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There are at least two groups of people who post on this site who can fairly be called "pro-demo" (I prefer the pro-vacant lot crowd):

1. Those who quip thoughtless one liners advocating demos usually with some irrelevant or mean-spirited jabs sprinkled in towards people who don't see things their way (filthy liberal obstructionists, hippies, building huggers etc) Issues such as the demolition cost, highest and best use for the land, local zoning, or the fact that the building in question may be in productive use mean nothing to these guys. The building must come down no matter what.

2. The second group is usually more insightful and seemingly more reasonable but constant switching of ideals and "moving the goalposts" as to what would be an acceptable situation for preservation, reveal their true consistent push for demolitions.

They'll start with saying the preservationists are being reactive and when proven wrong they switch to property rights, the role of government or other carefully selected talking point to be discarded shortly thereafter.

Either of these two could be considered "pro-demo." Both sides are absolutist on the issue although the second group pretends not to be.

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So you prefer to call them the pro -vacant lot crowd. That sounds a lot like you're trying to poison the well there with that kind of terminology. What if they think of themselves as anti - decrepit building crowd?

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Aren't you poisoning the well by using the word "decrepit?"

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Armchair>"start with saying the preservationists are being reactive and when proven wrong they switch to property rights..."

Arm, in 2nd group you list need, a 'switch' isn't needed. People can mention property rights *and* also note that sometimes, in some cases, the complaints about demos of some buildings sound reactive. As you said, there's at least two groups so perhaps a 3rd group is a more consistent version of the 2nd.

pampin>"anti - decrepit building crowd?"

Sometimes, yes, that would be a better label than pro-vacant lot. Demos don't always cause long-term vacant lots as the latter would imply.

For example, at the former Riverside mens shop location, one retail building replaces another. Same with demo of the hotdog restaurant at Kenmore/Delaware for a much more popular Walgreens built to the sidewalk on a side and helping the neighborhood win a national award.

The demo a while ago on Kehr St that the California blogger here was so against was for growth or better profitability of an industrial business. The grain elevator demo might accomplish the same. Pano demoing the old empty house he owned made room for part of his expanded restaurant and more customer parking to help justify business expansion. The demo on Delaware in NB will be for an urgent care center. ... and there was the video store on Hertel replacing what was there before, ... on and on, lots of non-vacant lots.
(and sometimes vacant lots are fine too - depends on the building)

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Whatever> "Arm, in 2nd group you list need, a 'switch' isn't needed."

Needed or not the switch happens all of the time. They will start with the "reactive" rant, then switch gears when someone points out the building in question was designated a national landmark years earlier (as was the case with HO Oats). Others will start with property rights and change course when it becomes evident the owner voluntarily forfeited certain rights when he purchased a property within a local preservation district (as was the case with the blacksmith).

Another switch occurs when some will support demos when they claim the preservation alternative conflicts with their limited government principals. Oddly, these guys turn their backs on the small government ideal when the topic shifts to government funding things they see value in.

Whatever>" Demos don't always cause long-term vacant lots as the latter would imply. "

Not everybody can be placed into the two categories I mentioned. However, the ones that can often cheer on demolition with no viable reuse plan for the site.

Fair enough though. Maybe to many of these folks, there is more to their stance than simply being more comfortable with vacant space.

For example, Bobbycat's comment below seems to imply that being pro demolition isn't as much about supporting the act of removing a building as much as scolding "some highly educated individuals who read Buffalo Rising."

And yes, I'm sure one active and one vacant, auto-oriented, and publicly opposed pharmacies shoehorned into Kenmore had everything to do with the village receiving an award from a group that promotes sustainable growth, public participation, and multi-modal transit.

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Arm>"Needed or not the switch happens all of the time... "

That definition of 'all the time' looks weak. Usually when a post on here complains about a demo, the building isn't landmarked or in a historic pres district. So your examples of HO Oats and the blacksmith shop are unusual exceptions.

That said, the HO Oats elevators were decrepit. That's a case when pampin's point is relevant. Considering their closeness to residential areas and their financially viable re-use very unlikely, allowing their demo was smart even if landmarked. Is favoring allowing demo of HO Oats the same as a 'pro-demo' outlook advocating demo for every old building whenever possible? Nope.

With the blacksmith shop, I wasn't aware Carr bought it after it was already in a historically-protected district. When another commenter said that, then (as I recall) I said something like if that's true and legally blocks demo, then fine it's Carr's fault for buying it at all. That isn't switching gears for no reason - it's reacting to info I hadn't known.

Still, as I said, most demo arguments here aren't about viable landmarks or official historic protection. More typical examples are buildings I mentioned in my previous comment above.

Arm>"publicly opposed pharmacies"

Every time I drive by Delaware/Kenmore, it's apparent from customer flow that many in the public are very supportive of that Walgreens. It's a much more alive block than it was when the Louies hotdog counter was there.

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Usually when a post on here complains about a demo, the building isn't landmarked or in a historic pres district.

This assumes that all structures that haven't already been landmarked are not historically important. Unfortunately, many buildings take years to be designated with such status.

I guess, in the meantime, it's a demo free for all (as long as people in the city keep their grass at an acceptable height).

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Keep in mind I am speaking in generalities about the pro vacant lot crowd and not singling you out specifically. Your blacksmith stance is not what I had in mind by describing the flippy nature of group #2.

Whatever> "So your examples of HO Oats and the blacksmith shop are unusual exceptions"

Those were just two examples. Another one was that non-historically designated musicians house on the east side. There people stubbornly called the group reactive and lamented the government's role in the "market." This despite the fact that neighbors were proactively pooling their own money to save the place.

Besides, as Paul mentioned, there are several structures that may not qualify for historic designation but are preservation worthy nevertheless.

Whatever> "...the HO Oats elevators were decrepit...financially viable re-use very unlikely"

They were no more "decrepit" than several similar multi-story masonry buildings that have been preserved and converted throughout the city. They were intact, had a functional roof, and working utilities which is more that can be said for the Granite Works, Genesee Gateway, St Martin's village etc. Favoring this building's demolition alone isn't necessarily "pro-demo" but inventing reasons to justify it is.

Whatever>" Every time I drive by Delaware/Kenmore, it's apparent from customer flow that many in the public are very supportive of that Walgreens."

You ought to check out their location on Girard and Delaware.

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Ok Armchair, I'm intrigued. Can you give us some examples of "moving the goalposts" in some recent articles? Please enlighten us, give us some good examples.

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Here are the two most recent preservation discussions (Sorry to single you out EllicottNick and Bobbycat but your two were the first examples I found)

http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/05/demo-of-blacksmith-shop-blocked-for-now.html

Observe the commenter starting his argument by stating a perceived infringement on property rights. When others point out that preserving a building in a previously agreed upon preservation district was not much of an infringement, he shifts to claiming it is okay to demo properties in a non residential area (?), irrelevant ties of preservationists to the political left, and a silly spat with Steel.

Then in the Riverside Mens Shop discussion, Bobbycat claimed demolition was just because because the public should not interfere with a building owners right to do what they want with private property. When others point out that property is regulated in a similar manner regularly, he shifts to hyperbole, a strange comparison to Colonial Williamsburg, and bashing other commenters for not living in Buffalo.

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Well yeah, Arm, recall I didn't say the 'group 2' you listed before never happened ever.

Some switching can happen in threads of any topic, but I still don't think any big portion of dissenting arguments about demos usually depend on it.

The two categories you listed of snark and switching conveniently ignores how often in different demo-related threads a well thought out comment (from say pampinform, cowboy, ...etc.) has disagreed with some overly dramatic or extreme argument from Steel or sometimes WCP.
A great example is Mike Duff's above
http://www.buffalorising.com/2011/06/why-didnt-they-do-something.html#comment-70187

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Bravo Mike! That is a great description of the false syllogism that many use on Buffalo Rising. Either 'A' or 'B', if not 'A' then 'B'.

If someone makes a comment that questions why a buildings should be preserved, example the significance of the Grain Silos and why they should all be saved, then they are branded pro-demolition. Even if they don't believe that the building needs to be torn down, they are pro-demo because they weren't 100% pro-preservation.

If someone makes a comment that supports the suburbs then they are branded as anti-urban or pro-sprawl.

If someone makes a comment about the need for parking they are branded a pro-car, anti-bike, anti-city person.

If someone makes a comment that isn't in line with the liberal democrat viewpoint they are branded a right-wing republican, conservative, or teabagger.

It is actually quite funny when you think about it. There are some highly educated individuals who read Buffalo Rising and post here frequently who are so limited in their tolerance of other perspectives that they can't see the reasoning behind what other people are saying.

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A good example is the HO Oats Grain Elevator, the preservation of the elevator was supported by the anti-gambling zealots and not the preservationists.

Preservation was supported by both groups.

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True enough, the partnership for a greater buffalo was a preservation group. It isn't an either / or proposition, so I stand corrected.

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The trouble is not that "THEY" aren't doing something, but that THEY miss so many until the last moment and go whine in court.

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You didn't read the story did you

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let's not forget that preservationists have no authority to trespass on private property, inspect vacant structures for deterioration, or write them up for housing court. structural problems cannot be accurately diagnosed from the curb.

so faulting them for "waiting until the last minute" would be valid if they possessed full, real time knowledge of the condition of every vacant building in town but consciously refused to act on that knowledge.

in other words, when the city fails to do its job, preservationists are to blame!

just because proactive work doesn't snag big headlines doesn't mean that it doesn't occur.

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Pro Demo crowd...... Tells me everything I need to know about you and the article in the first sentence.

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Actually it doesn't but to each his own.

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Maybe I was a little harsh on you because I know that you meant well and are right about many things, BUT I think you paint things way to black and white. I don't consider myself pro-demo or pro-pres. I think those terms divide rather then unite. I think that each circumstance is individual. Many of the best buildings of Buffalo were destroyed for nothing. Now Grass and pavement fill those spots. That is stupid. But If IBM built a 40-story headquarters on one of those locations, no one would be complaining. Learn from past mistakes, but don't think that because people don't care about one part of a grain elevator being destroyed, they also welcome the thought of a wrecking ball to the Statler.

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INteresting you bring up IBM. Back in the 70's they wanted to knock donw 4 Delaware avenue mansions for a non descript box.

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Great article, Steel.

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You're probably the only one who thinks that.

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I think part of the problem is that the city values grass more than demolition by neglect.

Brown won’t back down on fines for high grass

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I wish there was still the old "vote up" system, because this is one of those articles that should be voted up. Great article!

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part of the problem with preservation in Buffalo and most of America is the way our law system is setup. We don't have strong laws that guide people, at best they are loose vagaries designed that way on purpose to allow people to reign for themselves. It is all a part of the mentality of personal freedoms. The counter point to this, also setup by design is the right or groups or individuals to sue and try to change the system. A course about the history of land use planning in America really is an eye opener. It is easy to say you are an obstructionist to someone coming in to sue at the last minute but often there is not any other means necessary for a group or even a government to influence what an individual does.

Suits \ appeals \ amendment \ courts are all annoying and can be frustrating depending on the side you are one are what build out whole system of laws, it allows them to change and flow with the culture of the time \ place. Sorry for being an obstructionist but the preservation board is nothing but advisory, and even a federal designation as a national landmark can't stop a property owner from demolishing their property. Suing is there for a reason.

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but please keep in mind that contrary to the popular stereotype, no preservationists as individuals or organizations have ever brought suit in buffalo against a private owner or individual. mostly they have sued new york state (commercial slip, richardson complex).

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I respect Henry, but PBN is a feel good organization...They were no where to be found when the GLF elevator went before the Common Council for Landmark status. They sided with the owner and against the Presevation Board for Landmark status for the Davidson House and the Heath House...feel good organization

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they sure seem unwilling to rise to the defense of anything except the peace bridge neighborhood. and blocking landmark status for the flw houses was an embarrassment.

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There were good reasons for not giving the FLW properties that status.

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I think that all sides have made their mistakes in the past. Sometimes it does seem like a child only wanting his toy when someone else is playing with it, with preservationists only seeming to rally once a building is set for demolition. But we have lost many great structures in the city as well despite the best efforts to save them. I would like to see a greater mix of old and new. Not every older building or home is necessarily historically significant enough to keep. I am not promoting demolition just for the sake of it, but if an even better looking building is being proposed I would hope that we would consider going that route sometimes as well. On the other hand, I would like to see (if it doesn't exist) an assistance program to people rehabbing old homes. A tax credit only helps so much, but maybe also do low interest loans with pre-approved contractors and materials. I guess I'm not so much on the fence but more so able to see both sides depending on the situation and I think that more people in the city need to have that outlook, it would save a lot bickering.

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What something seems like and what it actually is can often be 2 different things. The point of this story is that preservationists are doing a tremendous amount behind the scenes with very very limited resources and although PBN is the face of preservation in WNY they are not the whole picture. There are tremendous grass roots efforts going on all over the city to stop the stupid and short sighted destruction.

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Good article. I don't think enough is known about some of their big wins and some of the stuff they are working on.

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