City June 22, 2011 12:02 AM

Land Banks Called a Long-Term Solution to Vacant Property Problem

Land Banks Called a Long-Term Solution to Vacant Property Problem

Assemblymember Sam Hoyt and Senator David Valesky (D-Oneida) announce the passage of legislation (A373A/S663A) that would allow for the creation of land banks in New York State.  Land banks, entities that take control of problem properties and then redevelop or dispose of them in a manner consistent with the public's interest, are a proven strategic tool for cities and counties where the number of vacant properties outpaces the private market's ability to deal with them.  Buffalo Mayor Brown, no fan of Hoyt, has objected to the creation of a land bank in Buffalo fearing the City would not have oversight of such a program and would not receive money from the sale of property.

"The volume of available housing stock in Western New York has simply overwhelmed our ability to manage it," Hoyt said. "It's time to get a handle on the inventory that exists and start imagining ways to creatively reuse and redevelop that space. A network of land banks gives us the mechanism for doing exactly that."

The bill allows cities and counties across the state the ability to develop land banks, which would be tasked with converting vacant, abandoned or tax-delinquent properties into productive use. These vacant properties could be redeveloped or resold in order to better balance the supply of buildings with the local demand for them. The land banks would operate under the New York State Urban Development Corporation. Both Buffalo and Syracuse suffer from an overgrowth of vacant and abandoned properties, a problem that is also beginning to creep into first-ring suburbs.

"The large number of abandoned and vacant properties is a major issue in upstate cities like Syracuse, adversely affecting property values and hindering economic growth," said Valesky. "Land banks are a community-based solution which has shown great benefit in other states, fostering growth and improving the quality of life in our cities and neighborhoods."

DSC_0188b.JPGIn crafting the legislation, Hoyt and Valesky carefully studied the success story of land banks in Flint, Michigan, an old manufacturing town where jobs have disappeared and vacancy abounds. The Genesee County Land Bank, which deals with Flint and its surrounding towns, was enacted in 1999 and has become the primary vehicle for redeveloping the area's vacant housing. Hoyt worked with Dan Kildee, from the Center for Community Progress who was an instrumental part in creating Flint's land banks.

"I'm enthusiastic about the great potential I see for land banks in New York," Kildee said. "Around the country, as communities face the fallout of a changing economy and the foreclosure crisis, land banking is giving local governments the chance to help reset the real estate market and promote sound development plans for the future. I congratulate Assemblyman Hoyt, Senator Valesky and the people of New York for making this reform and I'm confident that they'll begin to see positive changes in their communities as a result."

 "Just as one vacant building can set off a cycle of contagious blight, with declining property values leading to further abandonments, a smart redevelopment plan, implemented by a land bank that can acquire, hold and assemble parcels of land for development, green space, or public works projects can reverse this non-virtuous cycle. Their work adds value to surrounding properties and strengthens local real estate markets," Hoyt said.

Peter Baynes, Executive Director of New York Conference of Mayors, said: "New York has long needed to address the reckless real estate speculation that is an unintended byproduct of the tax foreclosure process, frequently putting property in the hands of neglectful owners who have little interest in redeveloping or even maintaining the property they purchase. Land banks have proven to be an integral tool in not only halting this harmful practice, but actually reversing the decades-long trend of property neglect, vacancy and abandonment. NYCOM applauds Assemblyman Hoyt's tireless efforts in shepherding this innovative legislation through the Assembly. Through his leadership, New York has taken a significant step toward combating the vacant and abandoned property crisis confronting many of our communities. If passed by the Senate and signed by the Governor, this legislation will assist local officials in fostering responsible property development and ownership in their cities and villages."

Mayor Paul Dyster of Niagara Falls said: "No problem confronting the City of Niagara Falls is as pressing, and potentially as intractable, as the large number of vacant, abandoned and tax-delinquent properties that have resulted from decades of population loss. There are strong forces pushing to revitalize our inner cities, from block clubs to business organizations to faith-based initiatives. But what has been lacking up until now is a set of tools to help us cut through bureaucratic red tape and take practical steps to turn these problematic properties from liabilities into vibrant assets."

Michael Clarke, Executive Director, Local Initiatives Support Corporation of Buffalo: "The past decades of population losses and increased property vacancy, while presenting enormous challenges for our city and county, also provide long-term opportunities for renewal if managed efficiently. Assemblymember Hoyt and Senator David Valesky's land bank legislation provides an opportunity to put one of the tested and proven solutions to the reuse of distressed property to work in our community."

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"has objected to the creation of a land bank in Buffalo fearing the City would not have oversight of such a program and would not receive money from the sale of property."

Simply put Mayor Brown does not care one bit about whats best for the city, and cares for everything that is good for him. I bet if barbershops on Jefferson, politically connected preachers, Leonard Stokes, Antoine Thompson, or Brian Davis were included on the deal, he would be all for it. I really hope the City finds a good canidate to run against him next election cycle. The only thing the city is missing is a strong and intelligent leader to guide the city, not hinder it.

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Agree Burch-I am less and less impressed with every waking moment. Besides not having a clue what Brown does that is constructive for this city, I am appalled that he would seriously not back something like this. Why, because of Hoyt being the sponsor?

Let's imagine what good leadership in this city would be like....then make it happen.

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Even from a distance it seems that Brown is a bust.

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We had candidates from unconnected private businessman to civic leaders to an ambitious harvard grad run and they together couldn't muster 10% of the vote, maybe even 5%. It makes you think it is a hopeless and futile battle.

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I'd be more impressed if our Assembly members were working on ways to make NY a more enticing place for residents and businesses. It surprises me that they do not see the huge vacancy rates in all of the upstate NY cities as a problem with the state itself. Yes, there are economic factors outside of their control, but they are not doing much to help the cause of keeping taxpayers in NY.

The sad part is that NY has become more inviting to those who live off the taxes than to those who have to pay them. With more and more taxpayers and businesses, we look at desperate measures like land banking as a solution. We blame sprawl and other countries, but the bottom line is that other states and cities are thriving while NY is dieing, and we can point right to our elected leaders and hundreds of unelected State authorities as a major factor in our decline.

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Politics 101. The reason why Bflo and WNY are dying. Petty, machine politics has destroyed this place and created a system and structure that is beyond repair. Sure we can make grassroots changes but without substantial political change, including state and local charter and contitutional amendments limiting terms and benefits that turn "politician" from "career" to "civic duty," the system will remain defunct.

Another reason why Brown needs to go. Sadly, people have amnesia when it comes election time.

Hoyt has to go to. The guy has been party to this downfall as well, rarely offering much of anything.

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As the topic of land banking (or landbanking) runs from keeping it local vs spreading it out to it might work vs it might not work; these are wrong approaches.

As far as waring between politicians, that is a short-term condition as the need to do something grows well past all invisible land boundaries.

The comment "...has become more inviting to those who live off the taxes then those who have to pay them..." says it very well, especially the HAVE TO PAY running versus the working-class taxpayers having NO voice.

The conditions set up by invasive landlords and their "stay"- vs-"live" somewhere and put down roots transient tenants says it best.

The NYSUDC needs renaming (and restructuring?) Get the U out. It is not simply a U problem anymore.

What also surprises me is that Manhattanites, New Jersians and people who live in nature-ravaged places are not yet clamoring to come to Buffalo, NY. Or, is that where the future of land banking actually lies?


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The comment "...has become more inviting to those who live off the taxes then those who have to pay them..." says it very well, especially the HAVE TO PAY running versus the working-class taxpayers having NO voice.

The poor are the ones waging the war on the middle class.

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The poor are waging a war on the middle class? I guess that explains Citigroup & co and their golden parachute via the bailouts.

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yeah!

damn those poor people for exporting all the good-wage jobs to china and bangalore.

damn those poor people for destroying the nation's economy with their evil credit default swaps.

damn those poor people and their pernicious insider-trading scams.

damn those poor people for spilling umpty-bazillion gallons of oil in the gulf, destroying both economies and ecologies.

damn those poor people for shoving ever more of the nation's wealth up towards the top 1% of earners.

damn those poor people for buying up all the elections and congressmembers. clearly, those food-stamp programs are -way- too generous.

the next time i see a poor person picking cans up off the street, why, i'm going to give them a piece of my mind.

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The execs at Citi don't have an impact on my paycheck, but when 100% of my property taxes go to fund medicaid, 9% of my earnings go dirctly to welfare, and 5% goes to social security then I have a problem with the poor. This is in addition to my usual federal and state taxes that keep going up. At the end of the year I lose $18,000 of my $70,000 salary to taxes and welfare, plus another $5,000 to property taxes.

I could care less about the super rich because they aren't costing me my paycheck to support them. The bail-out cost every American about $3.00, but the welfare is costing me thousands.

This is where the war is being waged. Open your damn eyes people.

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you make some valid points underhill, but its not that easy. There are indeed scammers living off public programs and these programs are probably terribly mismanaged, however if it were not for greedy and currupt pharmasutical corps, then people on fixed incomes could afford prescription drugs. If wealthy lawyers didn't push frivolous malpractice suits then medical services would not be so damn expensive. If jobs were not sourced out of our country by wealthy companies then people could work. If people on welfare and unemployemnt would take low paying jobs and educate themselves about personal finance.... you see wee could go on and on, the local area, state and country are so f@#^$d up that we can not simply say the dems or rep are right and the other side is wrong, or that is rich people or poor peoples fault. We always act like siding with democrats or republicans is like cheering for your team and we stick by thme no matter what. There are good ideas on both sides but we just can't ever get the two sides to cooperate so we'll continue down this road which essentially just perpetuates thier (pols) exsistence.

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@underhill - You make some valid points but it isn't that simple. In simplistic terms the middle class are being squeezed from both sides and are the group most impacted by unemployment.

I too see a great deal of my paycheck taken away for taxes and social security. I would like to see those taxes spent more responsibly by our government, but I'd rather see us reduce our humongous military budget and excessive government expenses first. This is where a large portion of our tax dollars are spent and for less return on investment than the poor.

I also agree that NY offers excessive levels of welfare to the poor, and that needs to be scaled back. We are losing residents as a result of these extreme policies. I read that the average welfare recipient in NY, mother of 2 children, receives welfare benefits of around $33,000 per year (tax free). That is the same take home amount as someone who earns $45,000 per year. The average minimum wage job will only pay that mother $28,000 per year, so you can see where it makes sense to stay on welfare. (reference, ChangeNY). Compare that to other states that pay an average of $21,000 in benefits, and you can see why NY is a better place to live if you are poor but a losing proposition if you are middle class.

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"The execs at Citi don't have an impact on my paycheck"?

Typical brainwashed reactionary. Same old predictable personality traits: self-centered, hateful, short-sighted and narrow-minded. Your types completely lack the ability to see anything in a systemic or holistic fashion. Nothing beyond what you perceive to only affect you directly matters the least bit according your distorted little worldview. Got some disappointing news for you: everything is interconnected in some way or another. You need to crack a history book or two before you continue spouting more ignorant troll drivel all over the internet because you subconsciously hate yourself.

Back on topic, A landbank system is definitely what this city could use right about now. So far none of the numbskulls in power have been able to execute (much less even conceptualize) a viable plan for all the under-utilized land our city is burdened with. In this tumultuous era of great global flux, there are some radical solutions out there that could potentially solve this problem but most people are too blind trying to shore up the old ways which have caused all of our current problems to even see a tiny fragment of the right path.

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What utter nonsense, there is no way you are paying 9% of your income to support welfare. The estimated cost of ALL social services programs to a taxpayer earning 50K is about $500 per year. Most Medicaid dollars are devoted to the elderly, especially those in long term care, not the poor. Tax breaks for millionaires is the reason our taxes are so high, somebody has to make up the difference from them failing to pay their fair share. Blaming the poor is just a diversion to keep middle income taxpayers from recognizing the real problem, a political process that has enabled the rich on the backs of the middle class.

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I hate hearing people complain about how high taxes are. Taxes for the rich, and the poor are the lowest since 1953, and thats a fact.

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If you believe that these are the things thath are killing our economy then you are not well informed. Turn off the liberal talk radio for a moment and open your eyes to what is happening to your paycheck. The BP oil spill was horrible but it didn't hit your paycheck or your bank account. The welfare leeches are sucking us dry, leaving us with less disposable income from less take home pay and they want more. The rich aren't demanding more from the middle class, but the poor are always looking for the next handout from the suckers who are dumb enough to keep working.

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"The execs at Citi don't have an impact on my paycheck"?

"The rich aren't demanding more from the middle class"?

Seriously...what is Rush Limbaugh snorting now that you've decided to take up?

Rush Limbaugh coughs up money on suckers like you who buy his nonsense.

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Speaking of "wrecking Buffalo" who was it that trashed the pink house pictured? Was it the City? Did the City and the politicians dump all that mess in front of the home and leave it there? Who really "wrecked" this home and the neighborhood? Whoever felt it ok to leave that mess out in front of the home should be the subject of "wrecking Buffalo" articles on BR.

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that's a yard sale, isn't it?

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Looks more like a yard-help-yourself.

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Them damn white folk from the suburbs did it!!!

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FYI: Please note that I typed 'working-class' and 'taxpayers', not middle-class... ty

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Well you can expect the number of fires in the city to rise because of this. The demolition companies don't want to properly conduct an asbestos abatement that costs them $$$. So they pay some crackhead a couple hundred bucks to lit up the place...the city orders an emergency demo and the demolition company saves the money. Its a win-win!

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I've read the reports and editorial about specifics of the Hoyt legislation, and I don't see how it would cause redevelopment of vacant East Side lots as has been implied. Isn't lack of market demand still the biggest issue by far?

Has Flint seen a real jump in redevelopment after they implemented something similar, or is it mostly still hypothetical there?

Anyhow, if I was mayor I might just go ahead and use the new program just to avoid political criticism about not doing it.

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Whatever>" Has Flint seen a real jump in redevelopment after they implemented something similar, or is it mostly still hypothetical there?"

Anybody expecting a "real jump in redevelopment" as a direct result of a Flint style land bank alone is probably expecting too much. It is really more of a tool to organize a massive inventory of vacant properties into a single directory. That can make organizing redevelopment of these properties easier but it can also mean better routine management of vacancies like cutting the grass, shoveling snow, or selling them.

From what I understand, the Genesee County Land Bank has been nationally recognized as a way to deal with large amounts of vacant lots.

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Arm>"Anybody expecting a "real jump in redevelopment" as a direct result of a Flint style land bank alone is probably expecting too much."

Fair enough, but if that's true, advocates are overselling with hype. By 'real jump', I didn't mean a big jump but just an indisputable jump. If it isn't expected to truly increase redev, the advocates should say that. Their hype and the BN editorial look to me as implying significantly more redev would be expected here if only Mayor Brown would use it.

BN editorial>"land banks would be given the task of converting vacant, abandoned or tax-delinquent properties into productive use -- either redeveloped or resold."

Hoyt in this BR article>"It's time to get a handle on the inventory that exists and start imagining ways to creatively reuse and redevelop that space. A network of land banks gives us the mechanism for doing exactly that."

Their rhetoric looks like it's emphasizing redev much more than stuff you mention.

Arm>"organize a massive inventory of vacant properties into a single directory"

Aren't tax-foreclosed properties (which is all that's owned by the Genesse County (Flint) Michigan LB) already listed in one single directory here? How is it a new agency could do that and City Hall couldn't?

Arm>"can also mean better routine management of vacancies like cutting the grass, shoveling snow, or selling them"

Wouldn't grass cutting & snow removal still have to be done by public employees at funded by taxpayers? If so, how would it be any cheaper or better? And how would the new agency's foreclosure auctions differ from those the city already holds? Just asking.

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I think the theory is that landbanks exist as quasi - independent institutions whose only job is to manage vacant land/structures. In theory they should relatively free of politics and are supposed to be much better at managing/disposing of property than the city. From what I understand, a lot of the hassles and redtape that go with trying to deal with the city when it comes to trying to buy property would be able to be avoided with a landbank. If they could get one up and running as they did in Flint that may be a good thing.

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pampin>"In theory they should relatively free of politics and are supposed to be much better at managing/disposing of property than the city. ... hassles and redtape that go with trying to deal with the city when it comes to trying to buy property would be able to be avoided with a landbank."
Arm>" repeatedly mentioned how difficult it is to acquire vacant lots from the city. A land bank could make this seemingly simple transaction easier"

Regarding a new agency, just because it's focused and independent of City Hall doesn't mean in the long run it would be free of politics (Erie Co Water Authority, ECHDC) or do a better job at owning vacant property (NFTA). What accountability will it have? Who makes hiring/firing decisions?

No doubt at least the past two mayors have tolerated Buffalo doing a terrible job at reselling vacant houses and lots. I've wondered why the pro-Hoyt/anti-Brown majority on the Common Council doesn't make more public efforts to force improvements to that.

What next though, make the police dept a separate independent agency because Buffalo's city govt has it's "hands full" as Arm says it does?

Yes there's a lot of badly run functions of govt around here. Just wondering if new bureaucracy is a smart long term fix to that is all.

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That's the rub there, what I said is unfortunately only in theory. I can imagine that politicians will be lining up to get their tentacles into it, trying to appoint their political cronies and try to exert influence on it. That seems to be the way it works in Buffalo, as those examples you mentioned show. Certainly something to consider if one is ever proposed for the area.

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How are the BN article and Hoyt quote rhetoric? They do emphasize redevelopment but in the sense that a single inventory or agency would be more effective at coordinating such efforts than a city with its hands full.

Whatever> "How is it a new agency could do that and City Hall couldn't?"

I would think an agency with a singular focus on vacant properties would be better suited than a municipality that has so many other responsibilities. People commenting here have repeatedly mentioned how difficult it is to acquire vacant lots from the city. A land bank could make this seemingly simple transaction easier.

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Arm>"How are the BN article and Hoyt quote rhetoric? They do emphasize redevelopment but in the sense that a single inventory or agency would be more effective at coordinating such efforts than a city with its hands full."

If they agree with your previous comment's low expectations that much redev will result from the new law, then for them to emphasize redev at all would be "undue use of exaggeration", from def 1 of rhetoric.

Genesse County Michigan's experience with the Flint landbank also sounds very low on redevelopment. Good summary from their landbank chair is here.

Btw, I don't see anything described in that which our city govt shouldn't be able to do as normal functions. But maybe what's being said is our city govt has too much long term structural disfunctionality to accomplish stuff like that. Maybe that was also the case in Flint.

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Whatever> "then for them to emphasize redev at all would be "undue use of exaggeration", from def 1 of rhetoric."

I interpreted "mechanism for redevelopment" and "imagining redevelopment" as not leading people to believe substantial brick and mortar projects would immediately result from this legislation. You are free to believe otherwise but I can't see how anybody would draw this conclusion by objectively reading the two articles. No offense but I think your ongoing beef with Hoyt may be clouding your judgement here.

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Arm, my 'beef' is with actions not personalities. It's only 'ongoing' if and when someone's actions aren't what I agree with. (As I'll assume is also true for your ongoing beefs with Brown, Collins, etc. - you often disagree with their actions but you'd agree with them if you think they're right about something.)

I don't hesitate to agree with Hoyt when his actions are something I agree with such as trying to grow the # of charter schools. Hoyt is right about that and the Brown-Grassroots-Dr.Williams faction is wrong to oppose it.

BB & CC also deserve criticism when they exaggerate likely economic impact of some things, as I think advocates of the land bank law are doing too in how they worded the 'redevelopment' talk. If they'd downplayed it similar to how your first comment did, that would be fine.

And I still don't see how in the long run the landbank agency's administrators won't be friends/family political allies or campaign donors of whoever appoints them, or how labor costs for grass/snow work will be any cheaper than if the city did it, or how the set of mid-level supervisors won't in time be a patronage dumping ground as much as City Hall's real estate dept. If it goes like that, how will quality be any better, and why not just try harder to fix the problems with property sales without reshuffling into a new public entity? Maybe there's answers about that stuff, but I haven't seen any.

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I used to live in Saginaw which is just up the road from Flint. They have a vacant housing problem that is much worse than Buffalo, and they created a land bank as well. I can't say it was making all that much of a difference from what I saw, although to be fair, it was still relatively new at that point. I've been to Flint as well. I can't say really that it appears to have solved all of their problems with vacant buildings.
Apparently the land bank made a good return on its initial investment, while at the same time demolishing hundreds of abandoned structures. If they could get a model similar to that here in Buffalo it might be of significant benefit. If they could foot the bill for the thousands of vacant buildings that will need to come down over the course of the next few years without costing the city money for the demolitions, then that might be a great idea.

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This is a really appropriate article under which a discussion of whether the rich or the poor is the class waging war on the middle class. Congratulations to everyone who bit on the first idiotic post by Mr Underhill......

Now, figure I might as well comment on land banking because, after all this is the comment feed under an article on land banking.

Brown opposes a land bank in Buffalo because he is afraid the city would not have control over it and the city would not receive money from the sale of properties. These are two excellent points to raise and valid concerns for the city of buffalo. The last thing this area needs is another quasi governmental public/private entity with its fingers dipping into the icing on our birthday cake. Land banking, the corraling and repurposing of neglected properties, would be a tremendous aid to our community ravaged by abandonment and the mismanagement of our physical infrastructure.

However, we already have a land bank in the city of buffalo. It is the city itself. The city owns thousands of vacant lots and has the right to foreclose on thousands more properties that are delinquent in taxes. Byron Brown opposes a land bank repurposing neglected land in line with the community interest and values because he opposes doing so with the land the city already owns. City hall (the Brown administration) drags its feet with respect to leasing community gardens, selling land to those who want to grow food, and is not working on anything else to do with the hundreds and thousands of acres of unused land it owns.

Dont dismiss Browns resistance on this issue to his turf clash with Hoyt, Brown does not want this to happen for substantive reasons.

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In the 60s in WNY, many would not have made it into the middle-class without being landlords, my reference to landlords being those owning one- and two-"family" houses in the city that are filled with transient tenants.

Landlords tend to have ample fire insurance coverage on their rental properties.

Recent newspaper reports tend to list fires as suspicious more often, not simply taking for granted that the TTs caused them.

As the Ls and their TTs move into the suburbs, more of the public will take an interest. This is not the "burn baby, burn" 1960s anymore.

As the Ls of rundown rental properties age, their family members do not want to take over responsibilities.

This no longer is the "my husband died and I don't have the moolaa to manage all his rental properties" as-she-continues- to-collect-the-rents mentality any longer.

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