City February 4, 2011 8:16 AM

LQC: BirdAir and the Solar Carrousel

LQC: BirdAir and the Solar Carrousel
If you're not familiar with Joan Bozer and WNY Sustainable Energy Association's push to build a solar carrousel on the waterfront, click here for some background information. The idea resurfaced recently when Roger Schroeder submitted a lighter, quicker cheaper version of the concept (see here). Over the weekend, Joan send me some renderings that take the idea of 'lighter, quicker, cheaper' to an entirely different level - if we are going to see any of these ideas come to fruition, we must look at ways to get the dreams off the ground, in hopes that someday we can take them even further. From Joan:

The project involves acquiring an early 1900's Herschell carrousel,  acquiring the canopy, having both installed on 1 acre of land on the waterfront that is accessible to the light rail and bicycle paths, and finding the right folks to oversee the management, operation and maintenance of the carrousel.

Because the carrousel mechanism that was donated to the project by the Herschell Carrousel Museum (described in our initial project proposal) has been lying around for almost 7 years, first at the Pierce Arrow Storage and then at the Central Terminal, we have been advised by the president of the Herschell Carrousel Museum here, and the president of the National Carrousel Association, that it would be excessively expensive to rehab.  They recommend we purchase an early 1900's Herschell Carrousel when one becomes available - it would be cheaper and quicker than repairing and replacing parts.  So we have updated our project proposal to reflect the need to acquire a functioning Herschell carrousel.  

The Herschell Carrousel Museum is partnering with the Western New York Sustainable Energy Association on this project.  The president of the Museum advised us that "It is very possible to obtain a Herschell carousel under $1 million." and she gave two references to call.  She said there are always several carrousels listed for sale.  

BirdAir advises us that they can provide that canopy for this summer.  The price tag for the canopy is about $550,000-$600,000, plus the cost of the solar panels.  So altogether the acquisition costs would be between $1 million and $2 million. We have the estimate from BirdAir.  We propose the BirdAir tensile fabric canopy be installed for a "lighter, quicker, cheaper" installation until a more permanent enclosure can be built, at which time solar and wind power would be integrated into the building.  At that time, in addition to the entertainment family-oriented value of the carrousel, we would realize the educational component of our proposal - the energy demonstration value.

The concept would need a project manager who would be responsible for the installation, operation and maintenance of the carrousel.  We have used the Saratoga Springs enclosed carrousel in College Park as a model which is owned and operated by the city of Saratoga Springs.   When it opened in 2003, there were 84,000 riders the first three months, more adults than children,  and they were able to set aside $25,000 to pay for maintenance and operation. They also rented it out for parties, etc. They said they would welcome a visit from interested team from Buffalo to see the carrousel and answer questions.

The solar powered carrousel is the idea of Laura Briggs who formerly taught architecture at Cornell, brought her students  here in 2001 and they constructed Solarwalls which stood near the Erie Basin Marina in the summer of 2001,.  She is now the head of architecture at the Parsons New School in NYC.  She wrote a report," Ideas for a Riverwalk" in which she suggested a solar-powered Herschell carrousel for our waterfront, as well as other ideas.

BirdAir is headquartered here and makes the tensile fabric for the canopies. BirdAir graciously transported the Smithsonians' huge Solar Pavillion to Buffalo from New York City and installed it on the Buffalo waterfront to celebrate the Pan American Exposition Centennial in 2001.  It was part of Waterfest.  Buffalo also hosted Solar Splash in 2001 - the intercollegiate international solar/electric boat competition at Delaware Park Lake - as part of the Pan Am Centennial celebration.  

Google BirdAir - they have some 'knock-your-sox' off designs. It would be great to have a few signature BirdAir structures here in their home town! Carrousels can be moved.  The canopy can be moved or reused if we go for the permanent glass-enclosure for the carrousel to extend the season or use year-round... The Herschell Carrousel Museum is also located here, making this project a great fit for Buffalo. 

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Great idea, but you have to make sure the carrousel is fully enclosed and secured at night, if not it WILL be vandalized. Even sweet safe ole St Catherines has it's 5 cent carrousel locked up at night.

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Holy crap, that thing would last about 13 minutes during a Buffalo winter on the waterfront.

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Agreed. At least is seems so from the pics. Cool idea though, I hope it happens somehow.

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Maybe at Hoyt Lake? Delaware Park outside of the Zoo?

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There is already one inside the zoo, so it would be kinda redundant there

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This great project belongs in Delaware Park, not the Waterfront

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Great idea, definitly not down by the water, it just doesn't make sense. Delaware Park by the zoo is perfect!

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Delaware Park is only one of many Parks in the City, they don't need to get EVERYTHING. I'm tired of us putting all our eggs in one basket. If other parks aren't up to snuff, fix that stop collecting all the events in one Park.

Am I the only one that sees this and thinks it would fit nicely in LaSalle Park? Would be a short walk from the Waterfront/Naval Park, a lot of people here hate that Park I guess but I think it only needs a little more TLC.

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"Am I the only one that sees this and thinks it would fit nicely in LaSalle Park? Would be a short walk from the Waterfront/Naval Park"

Correction... it *could* be a short walk from the Waterfront/Naval Park, but it's not. You have to walk around a confusing set of private condo driveways to find your way over to LaSalle.

This is one major failure of the Erie Basin Marina design. I never understood why they didn't work to connect it with LaSalle Park.

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This is not a banquet tent that will blow away in the wind. A similar structure has been in Lasalle park for 15+ years. I believe these Bir Air structures are very sound. The reason Lasalle Park is underapprciated is because you can't get there and poor people gather there

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Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago has a carousel under a Bird Air structure which sits just a few hundred yards from the open water of Lake Michigan.

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Joan Bozer's solar carousel and Tony Goldman's painted silos are similar in that both could dramatically improve with the help of a good designer. Both projects are about drawing attention and using an experience to educate and change attitudes. The right designer could elevate the project to a point where it captures a much larger audience. In my opinion BirdAir structures are nice but a little too common.

So-IL(Brooklyn) and Mos Architects(New Haven) are two very smart young architecture firms- I'm sure either one would do an excellent job. Florian Idenburg, one of the two principals of So-IL will be in Buffalo to give a lecture at the UB School of Arch. & Plan. on Feb. 16.

Also, this eco-boulevard project in Madrid by a design firm named Ecosistema Urbano might be of interest...

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Davvid, I like your style. I would be suprised if you still live in this area you seem to be able to think out side the box. That madrid picture is fabulous! Something new and exciting would be great for Buffalo. You know as well as I, Tielman and friends would never allow something that looks like it was built in the last 20 years. If its not historic, its not welcomed here. We will have the oldest looking, has been carosel possible. In fact tielman would probably prefer one that we can just look at but doesnt work any more. This waterfront has become a joke, I could see why Quinn has had enough. This place is impossible, too many special interest and obstructionist.

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1 acre of land sound like too much space for this. Does it really have to have suburban style scale?

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Obviously they want that space for possible future projects...but define suburban style scale. The parks in the suburbs around here are far larger than 1acre.

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I personally think this does belong at the waterfront. Rochester has a carousel on one of their waterfront's and it has worked for years. The pictures being shown in this article are a little unrealistic because we are in Buffalo and we do have severe weather. If you look at the pictures close it appears as it has metal doors that will slide around it at night. The carousel just needs to be winterized like everything else in Buffalo. With the right adjustments it 'could' be great! It's another reason for people and families to come downtown. Just like rotary rink is in the winter.

People already have a reason to go to the zoo. Putting it at the zoo wouldn't attract more people it would just be utilized by the people who already go to the zoo.

Link to the Rochester carousel for a better reference: http://nca-usa.org/psp/Rochester/

ps. I'm not saying this design needs a ugly brick structure around it, just some adjustments.

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A Herschell carousel on the waterfront is a great idea. It would be good in LaSalle Park, but there are some major issues. First of all, there is the problem of vandalism. Second, there is the problem of winter. Why not build an enclosed roundhouse with solar panels to operate the carousel, fire suppression system, security alarm and low heat for winter? Roll up doors or barn doors and lift windows to allow natural air flow in the summer would be nice and would attract riders with the sound of band organ music. Having a roundhouse allows for year round operation and provides storage for the carousel. It wouldn't have to be taken down and put back up every year, saving wear and tear on the machine. A large roundhouse can be booked for birthday parties, coporate events, weddings, private parties, etc all year round. Other cities have done this successfully with their carousels. Check out the carousels in Holyoke, MA, Saratoga Springs,NY, Binghamton, NY, and Mansfield,OH.

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