City January 19, 2011 11:22 AM

Then and Now: A Swan Emerges

Then and Now: A Swan Emerges
This house on Jersey Street on the lower west side, just outside the fringes of Allentown, went through a remarkable transformation 7 or 8 years ago. These vintage images (seen after the jump) were taken in the mid eighties showing the exuberant tower house cloaked in a dull grayish brown layer of asphaltic imitation brick sheathing.  Like so many of Buffalo's grand houses it was a victim of this one-time miracle siding.  I often wonder if this material ever actually looked good in the eyes of earlier generations or if it was just an expedient way to take care of a big old house in need of constant painting. Even covered in its dingy dress this Victorian was a stunning presence on the street.

The recent view shows the house returned to its original glory. It is really a spectacular neighborhood landmark.  Thanks to whoever brought it back to its intended appearance.  Notice that the adjacent apartment building to the right is now gone.  No doubt that building was the source of much neighborhood concern when this area of the city was in precipitous decline.  I don't know the reason for its removal.  Too bad though. From the small amount of detail visible in the pictures it looks like it was quite nice. From what I understand the site remained as a weed and trash filled empty lot for several years until neighbors took matters in their own hands and established a community garden which is a great source of pride for the area.  Step by step this part of the city is in a noticeable upswing with many renovations and some great nearby restaurants. A walk around this neighborhood delights at every turn and the streets are filled with many friendly people who love to talk about what they are doing with their house.

The real estate web site 'Zillow" estimates the house value at $113,000 and shows that it has 7 bedrooms and over 3000 square feet of space.  Its date of construction is listed as 1849 but this does not seem accurate for a house of this style.  Recent sales in the neighborhood range from as low as $25,000 and as high as $167,000 suggesting that there is great upside investment opportunity in the area.

The Vintage images used by permission from the photographer, David Daruszka.

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I love rehabbed houses in Buffalo.I usually visit my hometown during GardenWalk week. I and many others have noticed that there is a synergy between house rehabbing on the West Side and the GardenWalk. It's very visible on York St and the streets off of it going all the way down to 15th Street. I actually spend a fair portion of my summer visits walking around the West Side looking for houses that have recently been rehabbed or are currently undergoing that process. Almost all of them are great upgrades except for 97 Norwood which looks like an unappealing brick fortress. All this rehabbing is also a big vote of homeowner confidence in Buffalo.

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What an absolutely magnificent house! There isn't anything at all like that here in the Twin Cities. I can't wait to move back home and find a treasure like this for myself!

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Great house but it is too bad it is located in a high crime area. There were a few stabbings, a shooting, and a home invasion with assault within a few blocks of this place.

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What does past crime matter? What's important here is that like in other neighborhoods, you start with one, and others will follow suit.

Persons with attitudes similar to yours are not the type to see the potential of a neighborhood, rather everything that's wrong with it. You point out the downside, yet offer no useful advice on how to move forward.

For the record, every house in the city of Buffalo is situated "within a few blocks" of where some type of crime has occurred.

Before I left Buffalo, I lived in Allentown, where muggings are a daily occurrence. Yet Allentown is touted as one of the most livable and desirable neighborhoods in the city... and it IS.

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All of these crimes have happened in the past 8 weeks. They aren't distant past crimes they are very recent. It matters to anyone who wants to live here.

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This coming from someone who believes that 9-11 is a major conspiracy? You have no credibility to talk about only seeing the downside of things with no advice on how to move forward.

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It's a lose-lose situation. The illegal gun carriers are gonna kill you here. The legal carriers are gonna kill you in other neighborhoods. the world is so scary *shake* *shiver*

I don't think 9/11 was a conspiracy.

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Are you referring to the Amherst homeowner who shot the drunk intruder who broke into his house and refused to leave? Is this what your legal gun owner comment refers to?

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Absolutely does. See, I've been hardened by these mean buffalo streets. Personally, instead of hiding cowardly behind a gun, I wouldve thrown the guy out of my front door with my bare hands.

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I know you are just trolling, but I'll bite anyway. There are huge differences between getting shot by a homeowner for breaking into his house in the middle of the night and advancing on him and his wife instead of leaving as requested, and getting shot by a random stranger for walking down the wrong street at the wrong time. This isn't far from where a boy was shot on his bike a few months ago or where a boy was shot while standing at a bus stop.

There is also something to be said about the guy who stabbed his wife and daughter and was shot by the police just a few blocks from this house. That probably doesn't put the rest of the community in as much risk as the random shootings, stabbings, and burglaries.

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You mean it is not so bad if you are attacked in your own home? What if your head is cut off by you husband in your own home? Or if you are raped and murdered on a bike path by a stranger. How about if you are killed by a speeding teenager? Is that not so bad?

I find it odd that no matter what positive thing is written about the city some fear mongering suburbanite will poke their head out of a hole to make sure everyone knows that the city is a horrible dangerous place.

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Well said as always STEEL.

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Yes, there is crime in the suburbs too. You just summed up the major crime that has taken place in all of the Buffalo suburbs over the years. These same types of crimes have taken place in the city over the past few months.

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One question, are you saying that the crime in this area of the city isn't bad because there is crime in the suburbs? I am pointing out a fact that this is not a very nice or safe area of the city. For the record you are the one bringing the suburbs to this conversation, so please lose the high and mighty bullshit the next time someone calls you on it.

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No I am asking why you as a suburban person have to add a fear mongering comment to any positive depiction of the city.

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Why does it matter where I live or don't live? You live in Chicago and come here telling others how they should live, what they should build, second guessing house repairs that people have made. Who are you to judge anyone else for where they live or don't live? You have a major issue with the suburbs, you actually have contempt for folks who choose to live anywhere but where you think they should live. Let's not get too preachy here Daniel.

I did say this was a great house in a questionable neighborhood. I could have written this from the city or the suburbs, that doesn't take away from the validity of the statement.

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You are such a homer its not even funny. There were 52 homicides in the City Of Buffalo last year. The vast majority were committed on the East or West Side. Leaving two safe pockets in the city. You get on BobbyCat for being the voice of reason and pointing out the truth. You say compare him to a suburbanite peaking his head out of a little hole. This coming from hippocrity who writes ridiculous sprawl articles to bash the suburbs, and say that they "dont pay their share". You have to be out of your M&^$#$ F%$#*(& mind!!! The median family income in Buffalo is $27,850, with a population of 270,919 the median family income in Erie County is $73,247 with a population of 909,845. So tell me again who pays more taxes and who produces more sales tax revenue. I used to read articles on here and think that you actually knew what you were talking about. But now I see that you are just some hypocritical loser who has nothing better to do than slam anything, or anyone who doesnt live in the city. WAAAHHHH its not built to the curb, WAAAAHHHH suburbs stink, WAAAHHHH suburbs get mortgage tax credits, WAAAHHHH I dont like their architecture, WAAAHHH I it should have first floor retail. Man it gives me a headache. It would be okay if you were even objective but you just bash everything and every project that you dont think is worthy or old enough looking. I swear its really getting sickening. Im just waiting for "The Cost of Sprawl # The Price of clean air in the suburbs"......what a joke.

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I don't force you to read anything on here so don't complain to me if you don't like what you are reading. My question to bobby is meant to understand why suburban people like to come onto BRO and point out how horrible the city is as their response to a story about a restored house in a neighborhood that is turning around. There are many good people living in this neighborhood who are working hard and successfully to improve it after decades of disinvestment. Property values are raising dramatically and many great historic houses have been restored. I write one simple laudatory story about it and the first thing that pops into Bobby's head is to make sure everyone knows that they will be killed if they go there. Why is that necessary?

As to the rest of your comment I feel sad for our country that you (and many others) are so proud of the fact that most of the poverty has been concentrated inside the city. I really have no understanding of that kind of thinking. As to the cost of sprawl - you obviously did not read those stories otherwise you would have known that it is not a city versus suburb issue. As to new projects I have bashed - which ones would those be?

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Burch: you are obviously not open to alternate views. And, if those are so widespread on here, why do you keep coming back? Seems like a form of self torture.

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Burch, it is either agree with the mainstream of the site or don't bother checking BRO. Don't bother to offer a difference of opinion because some of the readers here can't handle it.

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Best comment of the year. Thank you for saying what most people think.

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Burch>" Leaving two safe pockets in the city. You get on BobbyCat for being the voice of reason and pointing out the truth."

It's hard to give you guys any credibility when you make claims like this. "Two safe pockets" really? Everybody else lives in terror huh?

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Not terror, but not as safely and securely as others live in other parts of the city. No one said everyone was terrified of living in the city. That is your defensiveness speaking.

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There is also something to be said about someone who fear mongers a thread about an otherwise safe neighborhood purely for the sake of telling the "mainstream of this sight" how it is.

FWIW, Normal and Hampshire is quite a ways from this house.

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Fear mongering? Are you serious? I said there is crime in the area around this house. I didn't say don't live there or you will be shot. I said there is violent crime, as reported by the Buffalo Police, just a few blocks away. This isn't fear mongering in my book, this is just stating a fact about the neighborhood. It is people like you who get their granny panties all bunched up whenever someone says anything that you don't want to hear that is the real problem with Buffalo. You are all so defensive and insecure about Buffalo that you lash out at those who don't agree with you. You remind me a lot of Rush Limbaugh in this way, you respond with the same smug arrogance and try to parse your words in the same way that guys like that do. You also have the same single focus that you are right and everyone else is wrong that he has. It is just as annoying to listen to your responses as it is to listen to Limbaugh.

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...you're going to send some of these people over the edge comparing them to Limbaugh. Then again, think you knew that.

What exactly did people do before the internet for entertainment?

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I meant what I said, he reminds me a lot of Limbaugh, especially when someone calls in to challenge something he said. He also reminds me of Colin Cowherd from ESPN, I could have used that analogy too, they aren't that different in their approach.

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lol! Now who's defensive?

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I wasn't being defensive Rush.

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...you're going to send some of these people over the edge comparing them to Limbaugh. Then again, think you knew that.

What exactly did people do before the internet for entertainment?

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bobycat> "You are all so defensive and insecure about Buffalo that you lash out at those who don't agree with you."

Right... you guys never get "defensive" or "lash out." You don't see these elements in your previous post?

Disagreeing is fine and facts are encouraged. But if you look up incidents of crime in other neighborhoods, a falsely imply they happened here, you should expect to be called out on it.

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"quite a ways"

It's 8 blocks, or 0.9 miles http://tinyurl.com/4gb6r8o
Whether or not that's "quite a ways" is subjective.

A few blocks away though, north of D'Youville, is a neighborhood I think everyone would agree has above average violent crime - among the most in Buffalo other than the east side. That isn't to say everyone should stay away from a neighborhood because of that - everyone should decide for themselves. Usually the crime is between people who know each other, although not always.

On a different note, that murder is a good example of why I say NY state is too soft on violent crime.

That guy should have still been in jail for multiple previous violence he'd been convicted of (against a woman, and against a cop). Instead, he received 5 years then was let free to do what happened this week.

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Whatever>" It's 8 blocks, or 0.9 miles http://tinyurl.com/4gb6r8o
Whether or not that's "quite a ways" is subjective.

Fair enough. That is .9 miles is roughly the same distance between the stabbing and the heart of the Elmwood Village. It would also be "subjective" to say the EV is quite a ways from the area Bobbycat tried to lump in with Jersey st.
You could also say the Klienhans neighborhood and the EV are "worlds away" from Grant-Ferry(meaning they are completely different neighborhoods) but that too would be "subjective."

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Yes, the interpretations of you and bobbycat are equally "subjective".

And yes EV is a similar distance from Normal/Hampshire, although there are some other blocks closer to Jersey St that have recent history of more violence than EV.

According to spotcrime.com in the past year 1/19/10 to 1/19/11, it looks to me there were 5 shootings within 5 blocks of Jersey & West: two reported on 12/07, one each Nov 14, Oct 10, July 22. Those were all around Normal, Vermont, Plymouth, Connecticut, and 14th, It doesn't count this week's Normal/Hampshire because that's 8 blocks away.

In the same time period there was only one shooting reported within 5 blocks of Elmwood (Aug 21 on North St).

There's subjectivity but it seems apparent the neighborhood a few blocks north of this house has more violence than EV does. Again, that kind of violence is often between people who know each other. However, that doesn't always eliminate concern about it.

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ugh... site not sight

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@James - Do you still think you'd take the guy out with your bare hands after reading this eye witness account. I know you are a tough guy but put yourself in this guy's shoes for a moment, with his pregnant wife sitting a few feet away, what do you think he should have done?

http://www.buffalonews.com/city/article320606.ece

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Thank you bobbycat... I was wondering who was leaving the n-word comments on my blog.

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Wasn't me... it was probably you in an attempt to drive up traffic to your site. I haven't used the N'word in any form or manner in probably 30 years.

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Grow a set

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It would be interesting to see what the inside looks like????

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My friend used to rent one of the apartments on Richmond that had one of those towers, made an amazing Reading Room.

As far as the crime in the neighborhood, this is like others have said the kind of thing that helps put it in the right direction. I didn't notice anything in the article that mentions if it's owner occupied or rental but by the look of effort put into the outside I would imagine it's not an out of town investor lol.

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Is that you big man?

I wouldn't agree with your ignoring philosophy of dealing with crime but if more people here make investments like the one above, you would likely see a great deal of that crime displaced.

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That's my point exactly, Armchair... Fix one up, live there, show you care and are there for the long haul, and others will follow suit.

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I lived a block from here and it ain't that bad. No one messes with me ever though 'cause I'm a big tough guy. If they did bada bing it'd be over. Nice choice with the pink paint.

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This is a great neighborhood

Guess what jerk - there were bank robberies in amherst and shootings/stabbings there as well...so what makes this neighborhood so much worse?

Perception

I own a house in this neighborhood and love it. So much historical and culture. I think if the mayor and the city started embracing the new residents of this area (hispanic and burmese) than those folks would respond very positively

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Exactly! I lived in Amherst in the early '90's and remember my entire neighborhood being locked down during the "famous" attempted Wal-Mart heist.

How many times has Amherst been the #1 "Safest Town In America", or in the Top Ten for that matter?

Serious crime can happen ANYWHERE.

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A walmart robbery is big news in the suburbs. An armed robbery of a bodega with a sawed off shotgun just a few blocks from this house barely even makes the news.

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I wonder if any of you architectural buffs might educate us laymen on what style this house represents, features exhibited, etc. That would be appreciated.

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Sort of a Second Empire and Gothic Revival mix, I think (but I'm no expert).

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pretty good assessment. definitely not 1849; the mansard roof is a post-civil war style. it has queen anne elements, too. what number jersey st. is it?

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What a thread...

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Nice house. Wonder what the rendering looked like...

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Always loved this house!!! What a gem! I bet the views from that 4th floor are great! I always day dreamed about sitting up there with a view of the lake, river and Canada. I mean, why would you built a fourth floor like that if you didn't intend to rise above the neighborhood for the view. How cool!

This and the building at the western corner of the same block are easily my two of my favorites in Buffalo.
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Buffalo,+Erie,+New+York&ll=42.900927,-78.888284&spn=0.002896,0.006968&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=42.900927,-78.888284&panoid=VxbhEVG0250FJdjJrAoZmQ&cbp=12,1.16,,0,-8.93

As for the loss of the apartment building... this area of the west side can use a little green space here and there. It is very very very dense with few places to really sit outdoors in the grass. This corner lot is very well maintained as a community park and adds more than another apt. building in a neighborhood with many others.

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Sean,

You ruined the surprise for my next story!

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ya that house of the corner of jersey and fargo is a knockout

someone bagged it for 15k not too long ago

damn

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Maybe the crime issued popped up here because of the specific street. It runs .87 miles from end to end. For a person in the suburbs, that's a little less than the distance from Main and Eggert, to the corner of Main and Harlem (a pretty easy walk).

Most of us, I would think, would feel safe at Jersey and Richmond. As you head towards the river, if we were all walking as a group, people would drop off along the way (choose not to go any further...not literally 'dropping off').

What's interesting is how short a walk that really is, but it crosses some pretty tough streets. It might be the shortest distance in the city that goes from, hey, I'd live here, to...are you kidding me?

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Love, love, love!!!

Good point Ben. If you do not venture into the city except through the internet, then the difference of a couple blocks does not mean much. Here it is everything. Jersey and Richmond, I agree not that bad. My children have been to friends there and I did not feel they were unsafe.

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Exactly, the city has many pocket neighborhoods of a few blocks or so that are stable and decent. Here in Black Rock the area around Amherst and East St is quiet and mainly owner occupied. Just over the tracks around Amherst and Military is quite different due to a high concentration of absentee landlords and transient tenants.

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Quiet? Hmmmm I remember a couple shootings on bridge street one block away from you.

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Great example of exaggeration, there were not "a couple of shootings on bridge st." but a single isolated incident. A man was shot a couple of years ago outside a bar at 3am. The victim and the shooter were not residents of Black Rock nor did they have any connection to the neighborhood. This was the only incident I can recall in the immediate neighborhood around Amherst and East in the past twenty years.

Our neighborhood paper the Riverside Review lists all the crimes that occur in the area. When it comes to serious crime about 1/3 of the perpetrators come from the suburbs and another 1/3 come from different parts of the city. Maybe its time to make Black Rock a gated community, we are tired of outsiders coming here and causing trouble. :)

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The Riverside Review? That must be a great read.

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I'll put my two cents in on the "crime problem". I have lived in this city over 50 years and actually lived two blocks from this house in the late 70's. At that time the neighborhood had not yet been at all "gentrified" and was seen as declining yet I never felt threatened or had any trouble.

I have lived in Black Rock for most of my life, raised my kids here, and again, have never felt threatened or had any serious trouble. Most crime is criminal to criminal, thug to thug, especially the violent assaults and murders.

There are a few very sad exceptions but the chance of getting shot in the city is minuscule by any reasonable calculation. The risk of death or serious injury is greatest in rural areas and outer ring suburbs due to car accidents. Children and teenagers are especially at risk yet we never have any debate about "choosing" to live in such a dangerous place.

Fear of this neighborhood is exaggerated by false perceptions of those lacking the experience of actually living in a place like this.

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Bobbycat...
The boy that was shot at the bus stop was at the corner of Grant and W Delevan or about 10 blocks away from this house.

The man who stabbed his girlfriend with a sword was around Normal and Hampshire or about 6 blocks away from this house.

To put this into perspective for people, Elmwood ave is about the same distance away from those crimes as Jersey St is. So I guess logic would tell me that Elmwood ave is a crime ridden drug hole that is unsafe?

http://www.crimereports.com/#

And just type in jersey st, buffalo ny. It's where the Buffalo Police reports all its crime in WNY.

http://www.zillow.com/

Again just type in Jersey St Buffalo NY and zoom into this area. It is slim pickings with the houses available priced well.

So bobbycat, do us all a favor and shut up on shit you know nothing about... for once. dang

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Shooting / stabbing 3 blocks away, shooting 2 blocks away, home invasion with assault 3 blocks away. What is the neighborhood in the city, 2 blocks?

Do us all a favor and get your shit together before you start calling other people out. Jackass!

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Live here and you are just 4 or 5 short blocks from this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgz7I1JDnwI&feature=BF&list=ULuEgL7NsfCDw&index=2\

The video is shot on Plymouth near Rhode Island, right behind the Herman Badillo school. I know that is like being 2 miles away in the suburbs because gangs in the city only stay in one area. Right?

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Why is everyone so sensitive? Lets face it the neighborhood isn't Nottingham Terrace. It is a nice rehab, we should all be glad that someone has invested in the city to make their home.

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Amazing rehab overall, especially on the tower. Gotta say I prefer the brick in the old picture over the siding.

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Going going gone! In
Ten years from now
Eveyone is
Going to
Wish they bought one these glorious old homes which r gradually being renovated and restored in the lower west side. There will be articles in local and interest sections of national
Papers of the beautiful restored neighborhoods here and rising appreciating values
Of the same; the proof is what happening already in Hertel, Elmwood and other parts of the west side,

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I am
Going to start Hunting for my Victorian dream
To restore in this vicinity this weekend !

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Crime is an issue of opportunity and poverty. The more opportunity and less poverty in an area, the lower the crime. Don't blame the real victims for the condition of a particular neighborhood, they are just victims of our failed economic system and the racial bias that still exists in America. A few more middle class people living as permanent residents in these neighborhoods would change things for the better in a short amount of time. That doesn't address the root issue of poverty but it does improve the condition of the neighborhood.

Crime does happen everywhere. I don't know why so many fixate on the crimes of poverty that effect a few, when the crimes of greed have a more significant impact on all of us.

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Whether I'm in the city, or the suburbs, or even a corn field, I'd prefer to be the victim of a 'crime of greed' ("hey, you over charged me for that pulled pork sandwich..") vs. the potential life threatening result of a bullet passing through my body. Maybe that's just me.

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You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do of being the victim of a random shooting but we have all been effected by crimes of corporate greed. This effects our retirement savings and insurance rates to name a few.

You have an irrational fear of the city probably from buying into the right wing media hype.

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Again, I'll take a dip in my savings vs. the hissing sound of an exit wound to the chest. Also, I said nothing of the city in my post, it's where I am now, and where I prefer to be.

Damn, doesn't it suck when people break the stereotypes it's so convenient to hold?

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crime and suburban flight over the past 40 years has actually saved many of these historic homes from either being altered or demolished for the then new 60 and 70's horid architecture; now with the ongoing gentrication of the the lower west side and other areas of the city and a present greater appreciation for these old structures,we are in for a renaisance. I don't see the perception of crime here being an issue anymore than other areas or for that matter some suburbs but rather feel less concerned about crime and more aware thses neighbourly assets now.

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Take a closer look at this house, and you'll realize it's a punk rock squatter house, with an absentee landlord. This house looked amazing for probably a year,has been neglected since, and I guarantee it will either be offered up for sale soon, or we'll all watch it go downhill, while people say "at least that hideous siding was maintenance-free, while the painted wood has flaked away and looks abandoned...is that cat pee I smell?"

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The absentee landlord lives less than a block away and is responsible for renovating several houses in the neighborhood.

It really astonishes me how people have a need to put down the accomplishments and hard work of others especially when it comes to people making a positive commitment to an inner city neighborhood

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Steel,

Excellent article on this Jersey Street rehabbed residential home and I always enjoy your prolific insight on “all things Buffalo.”

How the heck did a rehab editorial turn into a discussion on (alleged) crime-ridden neighborhoods?

Mark

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because the haters just have to hate to make themselves feel better

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That Jersey St. house and surrounging neighborhood were featured in an article in BR on June 27, 2009. This house sets across the street from the former Wm. Fargo Mansion Mansion (see historial marker on Fargo & Jersey) demolished in 1900. I know the owner who rehabed this house - he lives near it and I have been on the top floor. Great view of Buffalo.
There is an award winning community garden right next to this house were that apartment building was. That apartment building was built for the Pan-Am Expo. It served the neighborhood well for many decades and than fell into disrepair. We lobbied the city to have it razed about thirteen years and formed a community garden.
The neighborhood is not crime riden or else I would not live here. We live in one of the most historic and well kept areas of the city. There are many well known landmarks like D'Youville College, Holy Angels Church, Karpeles Manuscript Museum, Kleinhans Music Hall, Synphony Circle, Front Park, Porter Ave-Olmsted Parkway, Prospect Hill, Allentown and I could go on and on. Great block clubs like Columbus Park, Armory Hill, Cottage District and Kleinhans Community Assoc. have people moving back into the city. I know because I am president of the Fargo Estate Neighborhood Assoc. were that Swan on Jersey Street is.

Jim Messina

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from a friend on facebook:

"they should retake re write that picture/article...ill take them for a tour inside the haus if they want..mold.mice.beautiful hardwood floors, I mean trashed..broken windows etc...ugh! ..ah well I won't be your neighbor much longer... :( someone must have mistaken a swan for a crow...this place is a cesspool of gross.."

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