City January 28, 2011 4:30 PM

NYC is the New Buffalo this winter season...

NYC is the New Buffalo this winter season...
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times... according to the NY Times. As NYC gets dumped on, some are calling The Big Apple the New Buffalo this winter season. I've had friends and relatives trapped there. I've seen some of the funniest videos, including this one where all hell breaks loose as a high loader is caught on film as it mangles a minivan - "Are you out of your mind? What are you doing?!"

One thing can be said about living in Buffalo, as opposed to cities that can't take a dumping of snow - when the weather gets tough, the tough really do get going. Now that we're finally learning how to celebrate our winters with festivals, pond hockey tournaments, and Fountain Plaza skating, it's interesting to be on the 'greener side' of the fence for a change. I always find it interesting that many northern cities romanticize cold, snowy winters - think of Montreal and Quebec. That's because they create year 'round destinations and celebrate the cold months. Even Toronto has figured out a way to create skating trails in the wintertime... how do we get one of these!

Here are some other year 'round ideas that Ontario Place is looking at. It's all a matter of creating unique and interesting destinations in order to cast off old notions about a Rust Belt city like Buffalo. We can't just think about the warmer months; we need to make this a four-season city, and I think we're off to a good start!




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I posted this in the PK thread but thought it pertains here as well.

I've been checking out other Cities Winter Fests, some amazing events. Hopefully we can get inspiration for the future from:

http://www.winter-carnival.com/
350,000 visitors a year
$3.5 - $5 million dollar economic impact to the city of St. Paul and the State of Minnesota

http://www.carnaval.qc.ca/
Visitors spend more than $42.5 million dollars per winter in Québec City, while the Carnival itself generates direct economic spin-offs of $33.6 million a year.

http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/winterlude/


Optimistically, I'd love to see Canalside be built with this in mind, not just the summer water stuff.

Buffalo already has a reputation for Snow, use that as a marketing tool.


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That skating trail link is inspiring.

The "New Buffalo" moniker reveals the same misinformed bias, but it's our rap, so we deal with it.

What do you think we are, NYTimes? Syracuse?

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I agree start giving Syracuse some crap will ya!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Snowball_Award

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I will second Jimbuffalo on the skating trail concept, which could be a great fit in WNY. And here are two more skating trails that I have seen (both nearby).

(1) Brampton's Gage Park has a nifty trail that loops through the trees around a park ring road. If you want inspiration, Jim (or Newell!), check out this photo and imagine it in Delaware Park. :-) http://bit.ly/hpxcjv

(2) The Evergreen Brick Works in Toronto has a short trail that weaves through the support structure of an abandoned factory building. This one is easy to imagine somewhere in Buffalo's industrial landscape too. http://bit.ly/homGb7

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In my Link they have one of the coolest, Rideau Canal Skateway.
http://www.canadascapital.gc.ca/winterlude/rideau-canal-skateway/


Hmm Canals...

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New Buffalo? ha...

They call for 6 inches and the mayor announces an emergency.

People also use umbrellas when it is snowing. What's up with that?

New Yorkers talk about how tough they are except when it snows they cry like babies.

I hear it everyday at work. I'm sick of it!

:-)

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isn't that the truth. it's especially annoying, given all of the rugged outdoor gear that so many urbanites outfit themselves in to show off how fit, athletic, or 'environmental' they are. heaven forbid it should come in contact with any rugged weather.

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the second comment posted on the youtube clip is priceless..


"Dont worry folks you can all breathe a sigh of relief it was only an Explorer that was destroyed "

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As someone who had 3 feet of snow dumped on them a month and a half ago, I am LOVING seeing other areas get clobbered by snow.

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Yeah, sure.. wood fires and sledding, and cocoa carts at ice festivals are nice, but since (like it or not) we are recognized as the city of snow, we need to be leaders on how to deal with it. Our snow removal should be state of the art. We get it every year, so why do we get surprised every other late autumn? Why are neighborhood streets NEVER cleared on weekends? We need to be the city that other municipalities turn to for the knowledge on how to deal with the all that winter has to offer. Be it awesome, or agitating...

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I agree, we should be way above par. I think the problem is communication and sharing between communities. South Buffalo got hit last time yet it didn't seem anymore plows than normally would be out.

I'd love to see Snowdragons and stuff but the problem isn't equipment it's using what we have efficiently.

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Buffalo needs to accommodate both the 'outdoor types' and the 'snow adverse'. Not everyone gets excited about ice skating. Agreed, Buffalo needs to get a snow dragon, at least to take care of the downtown core. Especially, the new redesigned Main Street multi-modal transportation corridor. Plus Heated sidewalks are really a necessity so people don't have to slop around in the slush when when they are dressed to the nines. Accommodate both types, in the city center, and I think downtown will really blossom.

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"Not everyone gets excited about ice skating."

They should!! It really is for everyone. Go down and watch a Sabah Event and see.

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All of the northern cities including NY get it every year. Interesting to note that Boston MA averages more snow every winter than Lewiston , NY

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Years ago ago while living in SF I married a California girl and had a delayed honeymoon in Montreal, in mid-December. It was great. We walked everywhere.

I agree that the season should be embraced with more festivals and activities. I was in Ottawa four years ago in the winter and witnessed the Rideau Canal with all the skaters. It was an inspiring sight.

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I've been taking this opportunity to remind my family and friends downstate that they have had more snow than us this year. I love snow, too...I just love breaking our stereotype that much more. I also remind them that we have Kissing Bridge and Holiday Valley at our doorstep, as well as Pond Hockey Tourneys, Winterfests and Free Ice Skating Rinks. On Long Island, there's nothing fun to do in the winter. My best sledding opportunity growing up was either a former landfill (the highest point of L.I.) or a storm drain discharge basin (sump for short). The better we embrace the seasonal changes, the more apt we'll be to bring Buffalo's public image up in the world. After all, all people really see of us is post-industrial poverty and snow, even if we're much more multi-dimensional than that. Remedial efforts on those two fronts should help us greatly!

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We will never win the negative PR battle about our cold, snowy winters or our industrial decay.

So...let's romanticize it! Winter can be a pretty cool attribute of Buffalo, especially when paired with our 'industrial chic'. Buffalo will certainly be unique, but we will also be cool.

Let's stop fighting battles we will never win and, instead, fight the one we have already won.

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I wonder if we were to start proclaiming ourselves as the "snow capital" of the country or something like that, if some other snowy city will beg to differ and try to claim that title. Maybe embracing the title will start a competition in a more positive light. Worse case scenario is that the other city wins and we lose the stereotype. The other scenario is we win and show the pride we have for our city and its climate. That confidence can go a long way to give our image and perception a positive boost.

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The snow that's been dumped on the Big Apple is everyday type of conditions we take in stride. The only reason we're hearing about it is that the media-chattering-class types are whining about their "climatically challenged" commute between the Upper East Side to midtown Manhattan.

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Perhaps if we strategically install a few more windmills along the our waterfront, we can just blow all of our snow eastward before it even hits the ground.

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