City December 26, 2010 11:30 PM

Paladino Writes on Bass Pro, Statler, and Handouts (all but his)

Paladino Writes on Bass Pro, Statler, and Handouts (all but his)

Downtown's largest landlord, ex-gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino, is chiming in with his plan for the Statler building: mothballing.  The Ellicott Development Chairman says the State should take title to the building and seek a developer for it when the market improves.  His suggestions were contained in a December 14 letter to Dennis Mullen, Chairman and CEO of Empire State Development Corporation that touched on a number of issues of importance to Carl, reprinted below verbatim.

Dear Mr. Mullen:

The downtown Buffalo office market is presently over 30% vacant.  The recent Militello survey doesn't include totally vacant buildings.  Office rents are the same as they were in the early 90's.  The downtown Buffalo tax base has fallen dramatically since the melt down of Goldome and Empire Banks.  While costs have risen in excess of inflation.  The largest tenant downtown, HSBC Bank and their attorneys are considering relocating from their present location to other sites hopefully in the downtown area.  That will leave approximately 800,000 square feet of Class A office space vacant.

What was to be a canal side project at lower Main Street with Bass Pro as an anchor has melted down to a 3-story hole-in-the ground and a mix mash of dream plans by non-developer parasites and a News columnist who thinks he knows everything.

Congressman Brian Higgins, motivated only by an out of control ego, gave Bass Pro a 2 week ultimatum to sign documents blaming them for 10 years of bad faith negotiations.

Higgins conveniently overlooked the fact that Johnny Morse was compelled to deal with intellectually challenged City development people during the years of dealing with the Masiello administration.  He finally threw up his arms in disgust.  Then Mindy Rich sought out Larry Quinn to try to salvage the project.  Larry was subjected to a relentless onslaught by the News, Esmond, Thielman and their gang of yahoo dreamers forcing the project to be moved here, there and wherever and be redesigned numerous times.  After the site was finally agreed upon and documents were being negotiated Higgins, without consultation with any development people, decided to give his ultimatum.

The decision to let Bass Pro go was as bad, if not worse, that the other lame decisions of the past to locate a football stadium in the snow belt and to allow UB to build its campus out in the fields of Amherst.

Now the project is relegated to an agency chairman desperately trying to satisfy incompetent dreamers who don't have a clue how to put a development project together nor do they have any money at stake.  We've done this before with the Peace Bridge project, traffic on Main Street, the convention center, etc.

Attached hereto is a letter that I wrote concerning the Bass Pro debacle which our elitist press did not feel appropriate to print.

It was during the UDAG era that it became very apparent that government interference in the private marketplace subsidizing specific projects for parasitic developers was a road to failure.  No one could compete with government subsidized projects and the creation of an unlevel playing field destroyed many good and in some cases historic properties in downtown Buffalo.

Everyone just waited in line for a UDAG.  There was no incentive for the private sector to develop.  Since that time, the ridiculous use of selective subsidies in the office market has continued the blight of our urban centers.  For decades IDA's and Empire State Development have subsidized projects for tenants not otherwise disposed to leave the State of New York, to relocate from the urban centers out to affluent suburbs.  Your predecessor, the Urban Development Corporation, generated one project during its era that being Audubon.  Urban Development Corporation, charged with helping blighted urban areas, built Audubon in the most affluent suburb of Buffalo and relocated businesses from Buffalo and added to the blight of the City.  How ridiculous is that.

Empire State Development has now been approached by a development group to put up $5 million for the "first phase" purchase and stabilization of the Statler Building which sits vacant in the core of our City.  For the State to become involved in subsidizing the Statler to come back on to the market, in a piece meal, haphazard way, is unconscionable.

I personally support the warehousing and securing of the Statler Building in its present condition by State government at a cost which won't exceed $500,000/year for security and minimum heat for 5 years or until such time as the market improves when an RFP would be put out for all qualified developers to bid on the building.  Allowing the Statler to come on to the market in downtown Buffalo today would result in the destruction of the market by the creation of an unlevel playing field.

I submit to you that it is illegal under the State Constitution for the State of New York to loan or advance monies in any form to private firms.  Article VII, Section 8, Paragraph 1 of the Constitution states: "the money of the State shall not be given or loaned to or in aid of any private corporation or association, or private undertaking; nor shall the credit of the State be given or loan to or in aid of any individual, or public or private corporation or association, or private undertaking, but the foregoing provision shall not apply to any fund or property now held or which may hereafter be held by the State for educational, mental health or mental retardation purposed."  The Section goes on to provide exceptions to the general rule of banning gifts of State funds to private organizations, but none of the exceptions authorizes the gift of State fund for "economic development" whose gifts are made directly by the State or through intermediaries.

That is the law of the land.

Our politically corrupt State government and its "challenged" elected officials through its various agencies and authorities has violated the Constitution repeatedly over the years.

There are ways for the State to have a positive affect on development which are never followed.  The State certainly can take title to the Statler Building, maintain it best through a hired management company and then, when market conditions improve, RFP it onto the market in a bona fide, arms length manner.

Allowing one developer to have an advantage over other developers because of political connections is a violation of the law.

Very truly yours,
ELLICOTT DEVELOPMENT COMPANY
Carl P. Paladino
Chairman

CPP/PG
Hon. Carl Bucki, Bankruptcy Court
Garry Graeber, Esq.
All Press Not Including Buffalo News
Buffalo Place
Hon. Chris Collins
Everybody Else

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So, um, Carl...how's the Greystone and the former Baker Shoe store and warehouse looking? What's the latest on the Court Street tower? Why on gods earth did you turn the former Courtyard Mall into a blank wall and house a PAROLE office behind it???? and, say, how did you get money to fix (if that's what you call it) buildings? ....GOVERMENT!!!!!!!

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ummm, and the "new" mothball, Grace Manor Nursing Home, which is now also sitting... but the parking lot has been used for the BPO. $5.

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Paladino is such a hypocrite and he wanted to be governor, when pigs fly...

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The mayor and his administration are a poor excuse for leadership. Projects such as Bass Pro, Canal Side, Statler, and the HSBC bank movement are all very managable situations that a well run city would have already handled.

Simplified situations:
Bass Pro and the CanalSide should not have been just supported by the mayor, it should have been overseen. If Bass Pro would have been properly managed there would not have been time for all the rumor, speculation, and anger. CanalSide with Bass Pro should already be finished... not saying its the right or wrong thing, just that it should have been done a long time ago and we should be enjoying/using what would have been there.

Statler should be handed to the city, in which the city should invest the 5 million. Upon completion of the project the city should put the property for auction.... serious bidders with a LARGE penalty for changing their minds. If it is worth much more patched up, why not sell it that way to more serious people.

HSBC should be encouraged to stay downtown at all costs.... The worry about a collapse of the office markert downtown is a fallacy(I believe). No owner downtown wants to have to compete with premier space and that is understandable, but prices for that space in Buffalo are much cheaper then in other major cities. This is why I believe with proper leadership of the mayors office, the building owner may be able to sway some out of town or suburbian companies.

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I think by directing your anger to Carl about Carl does not solve any problems. To be honest, Carl is not the problem.

Talking about Paladino and his hypocrisy is merely using him as a scapegoat for frustration.

The problem is us for not putting competent elected people in positions to do the common good. If you want aggressive people to preserve buildings, do something about it.

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There have to be more articulate voices out there deserving of the space here on BR. When Mr. Paladino calls ANYONE a parasite he loses any credibility he may have brought to the table. He continually sounds not only angry, but unstable - and far from constructive.

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I have to agree-why even give Carl the air time? His ego-pathological rants do not warrant much attention, particularly when he is throwing stones from a glass house. He has put a big blemish on this region, so I suggest we try to give the podium to someone more articulate, intelligent and constructive.

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It's unfortunate timing that all of the solutions for the Statler revolve around some sort of city/state financial commitment at a time when those resources are scarce or non-existent. A recent New York Times editorial outlines the gruesome budget realities facing the states and mentions NYS. Projects like the Statler may become one of the victims of this crisis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/26/opinion/26sun1.html?partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

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Regardless of the messenger, a single point he makes deserves some consideration.

Projects receiving public money make it difficult for private individuals/investors to risk capital. The competitive dynamics/market forces change when any individual/company gets an injection of capital that changes the risk/reward for a project.

It's a real issue that impacts all of us, it's unfortunate that some here can't disconnect the author from his idea. If you see a government role in everthing, his words sound self serving. For the rest of us, it's common sense.

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Talk about "the pot calling the kettle black", Carl doesn't seem to see the irony in his own record of leveraging public dollars. Still he makes some valid points, the mistake of UB North was certainly one of the biggest blunders in our time and did more damage to Buffalo than any other single planning decision. He is spot on with his criticism of subsidies meant for blighted areas being hijacked and used in Amherst and other affluent suburbs. This continues to this day with the blatant abuse of Empire Zone credits used to bring Geico to Amherst. Finally, Carl should refrain from using "out of control ego", "intellectually challenged", or "parasitic developer" unless he is writing his resume or autobiography.

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I love the letter, Carl hit on everything wrong with the city, just to bad he was the one to write it. Reading in black and white how dysfunctional this city is along with all the pie in the sky projects in one forum is a real eye opener.

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His criticism was aimed mainly at New York State and enabling the suburbs to pirate business from the city. I don't see this as an attack on the city but as a critique of the failures in regional planning.

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Blame the suburbs, it's all their fault!

Regional planning = everything in the city, is that it Black Rocker?

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No, you blamed the city, as is the usual knee jerk response from those without a understanding of the history of regional planning. I pointed out that you misunderstood Carl's rant, he was speaking to the region, not just Buffalo.

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You must have me confused with Tom Wonderful.

replied to Blackrocklifer
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Sorry, my mistake.

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Why does our local media continue to give air time to the misguided rants of this tea bagging racist homophobic women hater? Why don't they spend some time interviewing Bruce Fisher, Mark Goldman, and Tim Tielman instead?

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because they are powerless eunuchs

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HSBC'S RENT IS TOO DAMN HIGH!

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Funny. Karl is just mad as hell.

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Why should HSBC fell any loyalty to a building they do not own if the landlord does not give them the service, price or treatment that they could better receive from a different landlord.

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This entire city is run by egomaniacal politicians and business venture wannabees. It's not going to change in the near future as a majority of the remaining population is not bright enough to vote them out of office or do anything about the situation.

I owned businesses in Buffalo and Toronto and two things that is screamingly evident when you draw contract to Buffalo and Toronto is :

1: They set a plan and move on it. People who get in the way or show special interests get run over - publicly and are black-balled.

2: When a building is in disrepair - they KNOCK IT DOWN and build new. Oh and BTW big shot developers (unlike the two knuckheads with the Statler) are confident in their investment and use their own money.

I have a long story about how when I was looking to expand my relatively small business in Toronto I was greeted at Enterprise Toronto with welcoming arms. In one meeting and one day, they set up everything from real-estate appointments, to banking, to financing to business licenses. Severe contract to the nightmares I dealt with the BERC, City of Buffalo and other corrupt organizations.

Why do I bring this up - simple, Toronto has a plan! They welcome and want ALL businesses and they let 'them' shape the structure of the city. Why because you will NEVER guess how it will play out, there are toooo many variables and changes that will occur - so just open the doors and let it happen.

The clowns in Buffalo 'think' they have the answers and 'know' what is will look like - WRONG! They NEVER have and they NEVER will.

Stop Trying!

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Toronto is not a good comparison to Buffalo. They are the largest city in Canada, 5th largest in North America. Toronto has a population of 2.5 million with 6.2 million in the Greater Toronto Area.

More importantly they are a metro government with strong government regulation and involvement in all areas of developement. Buffalo has none of these advantages.

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They are a great comparison because like Buffalo they are cold and heavily taxed and regulated. Our top three excuses for our doldrums. Yet they are now a huge City. but guess what in 1960 Metro Buffalo and Metro Toronto were almost identical in size. It is exactly the contrast that Devon pointed out that led to their dramatic growth and our dramatic decline.

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You missed the point, Toronto is the financial center of Canada. Buffalo isnt even the financial center of its own state. On top of that when weather beats you down Buffalonians relocate to the South. Where are Canadians going to relocate Vancouver?

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Toronto was not the financial center of Canada in 1960 - Montreal was. It was Toronto policies that created the friendly business environment that lead to the relocation of most financial service companies including the Bank of Montreal from Montral to Toronto. You are simply pointing out the long term results of the differences Devon was referring to. Devon was spot on in his assessment.

BTW there are hundresd of Thousands of Canadians that have relocated to warmer clime's both in Vancouver as well as in the southern and western US.

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Sally> "Toronto policies that created the friendly business environment that lead to the relocation of most financial service companies including the Bank of Montreal from Montral to Toronto. "

The Quebec Separatist Movement probably had more to do with migration of business from Montreal to Toronto than "business friendly policies." The Canadian version of business friendly (labeled "socialism" in the US) ie: national health care, non paranoid immigration policy, sprawl containment, etc. is as available in Montreal as it is in Toronto.

You are correct though to point out that in spite of what some would perceive as weaknesses (taxes, regulations, evil national health care, communist high-density development policies etc) have had a positive impact on S Ontario's growth. They are a better model to follow for upstate than the "(sniff, sob)why can't we be more like Texas" plan.

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Toronto was not dependant on heavy industry like Buffalo and did not suffer the same great decline in manufacturing. The most obvious advantage Toronto has is the metro government that allowed the city to expand its boundaries and annex the surrounding areas. Toronto also embraced government planning and regulation while here in America most reject and dismiss government which renders it ineffective. Also with Canadian universal health care the burden on employers is much less and encourages entrepreneurs and business to hire. I don't think Toronto is a good example to use, we really don't have that much in common.

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Sure you can compare the two. Buffalo at one time was bigger then Toronto. Toronto must have done something right to get people come and stay. I know cause my family ended up in Toronto in the 1960's because the US limited Italians coming into the United States.

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Actually you are pointing out another big difference between Toronto and Buffalo. Canada had very liberal immigration policies in the 1960's that coincided with their growth. Today 50% of the citizens of Toronto were born outside he country.

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Toronto is a text book example of a sprawltopolis. Toronto has torn down hundreds of historically significant buildings to put up generic strip malls and office buildings and they are still doing it. The one thing Buffalo could learn from Toronto is to have the city take control of the suburbs and bring them into one regional fold. This allowed them to centralize the business district and keep the city prosperous while the suburbs sprawled to take over neighboring cities.

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Disagree with carl all you want, but actions speak louder than words...

He's a multi-millionaire and you're a bunch of jerks posting on a forum. While he has done things that I would disagree with (i.e., Greystone, Our Lady of Lourdes, running for governor), the guy does support downtown development and he is not one of the guys making all his money in the burbs (i.e., uniland).

Bottom line - the city needs to stop pitter-pattering around and make some tough examples of absentee landlords, improve its neighborhoods, develop tighter community (ie, residency requirements for public servants), improve schools and make the city a place where people want to live. The rest of this mess will take care of itself from there.

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Hey Slobadan - by the way apparently your one of the "bunch of jerks" also. :-)

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"Toronto was not the financial center of Canada in 1960 - Montreal was. It was Toronto policies that created the friendly business environment that lead to the relocation of most financial service companies including the Bank of Montreal from Montral to Toronto."

Ergo: the difference between Buffalo and Toronto.

Toronto, by its own right, is a metropolis.

We are sorely unmatched here. Buffalo is a great town - good people for the most part. It has simply been misdirected and misguided for decades, along with the state.

The backbone of Buffalo is her people - plain folk - the types that are investing in neighborhoods and bringing them back with success.

Unfortunately, these people don't have the financial capital, nor the staffing, to support taking one of our historic structures and doing something with it.

Carl and others like him, do. And, yes, most do it with assistance from the state or the city or other means besides the pocket. A few even get them done - complete - not even mothballed for years...

And, speaking of mothballed, I would have hoped that, years later, Carl would have mothballed the Greystone. But, alas...

What more can we do?

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Carl Paladino understands Buffalo much more than most. He has made millions off of the way IS. Many on here have a vision of the way Buffalo will be. These visions don't align. Carl will continue to make his money hopefully the city will one day pass him by.

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This distro list made me laugh.

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It is funny.

I respect the guy for his accomplishments....but the 'all press not including the Buffalo News' is something I'd probably have a talk with my seven year old if he wrote.

(...."son...you may not agree with everyone, but they're an important vehicle in WNY to deliver a message. If you disagree with them, hold your nose, and your opinion, and play along..." ) Oh well, seems to work for him.

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If it wasn't for Carl Paladino this city "would be" a ghost town by now.

If you're old enough... to remember the 80s and 90s when our public sector was spending money on misguided projects by the boat-load, Carl was one of the few private developers who chose to stay and invest in the city while others were running for the sure-thing (Amherst).

Carls Idea for the Statler is the first sensible idea I've heard to date.

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